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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2010.04.10 23:25:00 -
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EVE could teach these people a lesson, don't put all you got in one plane. Especially when you go into a country you got a vague NAP with.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.10 23:34:00 -
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My condolences to Poland. Few countries have suffered more than they have, throughout their entire history.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Capsuleers of Doom Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.10 23:38:00 -
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Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 10/04/2010 23:42:21 Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 10/04/2010 23:39:25
Originally by: Herr Wilkus I'm not Polish. But if I was, I'd be hacked.
Never buy into that 'time of mourning' nonsense. Thats liberal-speak for have a good cry and turn the other cheek, until they slap you again.
Its time to get angry. Get out there and burn some Russian flags tomorrow, or better yet burn a Putin effigy. Make some headlines. Its democracy in action - elect a militantly anti-Russian government that won't give Russia the time of day. Isolate them completely.
Did the US turn the other cheek when Muslim terrorists toppled the World Trade Center? Hell no! Arab cities burned, and old Sadam danced on the end of a rope.
Yes, Poland is <<<<< weaker than Russia, but that doesn't mean they have to grin and bear it when Russia is stepping on their necks.
You've been proven to be an idiot several times throughout this thread, please discontinue your current action.
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Merin Ryskin Good Post.jpg
I love you sometimes Merin. This is one of those times.
I have to agree here.
Unfortunately for the pilot, had he gone off-course to another airfield and delayed the ceremonies, he'd have gotten his ass fired.
Quote: 2) Pilot for some reason (perhaps his passengers really want to get to their political event on time) decides that he MUST land there, and continues to descend instead of aborting the approach and diverting to an alternate airport.
Just had to pick at this Merin, safety violations happen across the airline sector because of things like this (as I mentioned a few lines ago), the pilot was more than likely under heaps of pressure not to create a diplomatic incident such as the Polish being late, and thus took the risk.
Originally by: Herr Wilkus Another news flash:
Says here that none other than Vladimir Putin himself will be leading the crash investigation. I'm sure millions are relieved to hear he is taking personal responsibility for fact finding in this matter. I'm sure within a few days they'll be able to tell us exactly how many lines of ******* Polish pilot did before this flight and demand Polish reparations for damaging their forest.
Looking forward to more croc tears and hearing from more Russian apologists.
Putin is associated as a man as getting the job done in Russian politics compared to the other abysmal choices that the poor Ivans have.
Guess who they'd send in to make sure the mess gets sorted? You pillock.
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equcin meey
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.10 23:38:00 -
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at first i thought it was a very bad joke but after seeing different news site's,all i can say is i pass on my condolences to the families, friends and the people of poland.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar Ship spinners inc
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Posted - 2010.04.11 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: AdmiralJohn Edited by: AdmiralJohn on 10/04/2010 23:49:16 My condolences to Poland. Few countries have suffered more than they have, throughout their entire history.
Today, we are all Polish.
ewwww no thanks
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Cat o'Ninetails
Caldari Rancer Defence League
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Posted - 2010.04.11 01:44:00 -
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seems to me like its only ever planes with famous people on them crash
this has to be a horrific blow though. a good portion of the government and military commanders taken out in one fell swoop
a tragedy.
xxx ♥ VOTE CAT ♥
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Traveller 28
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Posted - 2010.04.11 07:19:00 -
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NEWSFLASH!!!!
The Yanks caused the crash to make the Russians look bad!!
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warpod
Amarr People Desintegration Project
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Posted - 2010.04.11 08:05:00 -
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Originally by: Malaclypse Muscaria
The same way the Russians also spawned the thick fog that "coincidentally" was covering the area: Grand Magus Rasputin's awesome psychic powers of doom. And btw, notice another funny "coincidence"? Rasputin...
NKVD officers plant trees on personal order of Stalin (Smolensk, 1947)
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Kane Starkiller
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.11 11:17:00 -
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['] A sad day for my country. Lit a candle last night at the Katyn Cross in Krakow.
To all those tinfoil hat theorists; we have been trying to reconcile our differences with Russia. The Russians for their part, have been more than helpful in this difficult moment. I find it sad that human nature atomatically warrents a black-sheep to be brought forward. I sincerley doubt Russia would want another world war.
Out of respect for the dead I personally think such conspiracy comments should be kept to oneself.
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Earthan
Gallente GREY COUNCIL Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.04.11 11:27:00 -
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Altoughh i never agreed with his views as my president, rest in peace,its a great tragedy for my country.A sad sad day.
To all those with conspiracy threories guys get real:
What would be the gain for Russia?As somebody pointed he was eursceptic wich suited greatly Russia.Moreover the new president elections would be soon enough and he had no chance of wining.Would Russia risk all this jsut to eliminate him a little faster?this is rubbish.
There were several recorded conversations from the tower ordering them to abort...
Guys just accept reality: its was an accident.
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.04.11 12:08:00 -
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Edited by: Lt Forge on 11/04/2010 12:08:48 Another short newsflash: It seemed that they lowered the casualties from 97 to 96, since officialy booked woman didn't board the plane.
Tinfoil hatters: Is that woman your terrorist you were looking for?
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RabbitofDoom
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Posted - 2010.04.11 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 11/04/2010 07:32:37 I can not imagine how this is going to affect poland, literally wiping out half the government in one go
Propably not that much. We dont have a presidential system of government. Prime minister and most of its staff weren't on a plane. It might have a significant long term impact because Kaczynsky wanted to provide more power for the president. He started to create institutions that could in future support presidential system of government. In same time new president will most propably come from a party that actualy wants to weaken presidential position and give more power to the prime minister. It was mostly caused by Kaczynsky himself that was vetoing many curent ruling party law regulations and was accused frequently that he is serving his brother party intrest than the country. He was also conservative catholic rightwinger and eurosceptic casuing many conflict bewen current liberal pro-euro ruling party. His brother wasn't on a plane that crashed soo i dont expect many changes in curent political course of Kaczynsky brother Law&justice party. Some of more nationalistic members might even try to cash in on that crash and gain additional support by fueling ant-russian sentiments in society. For ruling party (civic platform) it means that they will finaly be able to give a green light to some important reforms because new presiden will most propably will be curent acting president. While they will not be able to pass some more radical ideas because their coalition partners from PSL would not support it. I expect that Polish will be more liberal and pro european, it will still mantain a close relation with US but it will propably also seek to improve our strained (by previous law and justice government, and by Kaczynski himself) relations with Russia and Germany.
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Nathanial Victor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.11 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: RabbitofDoom
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 11/04/2010 07:32:37 I can not imagine how this is going to affect poland, literally wiping out half the government in one go
Propably not that much. We dont have a presidential system of government. Prime minister and most of its staff weren't on a plane. It might have a significant long term impact because Kaczynsky wanted to provide more power for the president. He started to create institutions that could in future support presidential system of government. In same time new president will most propably come from a party that actualy wants to weaken presidential position and give more power to the prime minister. It was mostly caused by Kaczynsky himself that was vetoing many curent ruling party law regulations and was accused frequently that he is serving his brother party intrest than the country. He was also conservative catholic rightwinger and eurosceptic casuing many conflict bewen current liberal pro-euro ruling party. His brother wasn't on a plane that crashed soo i dont expect many changes in curent political course of Kaczynsky brother Law&justice party. Some of more nationalistic members might even try to cash in on that crash and gain additional support by fueling ant-russian sentiments in society. For ruling party (civic platform) it means that they will finaly be able to give a green light to some important reforms because new presiden will most propably will be curent acting president. While they will not be able to pass some more radical ideas because their coalition partners from PSL would not support it. I expect that Polish will be more liberal and pro european, it will still mantain a close relation with US but it will propably also seek to improve our strained (by previous law and justice government, and by Kaczynski himself) relations with Russia and Germany.
no one is going to read that. learn to use your ******* enter key and make some ******* paragraphs. space it out. who the hell would read a block of crap like that?
RAGE!
that aside, i feel terrible for anyone affected by this event. a terrible terrible tragedy "one more spam thread will get you a warning. - Thanks Hutch. " isn't a warning of a warning a warning? or just a warning of a warning? didnt he just get 'the warning'?
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Brom Crysal
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Posted - 2010.04.11 15:08:00 -
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Our condolences to the families and friends of the victims of this terrible accident. Our condolences to the people of Poland for the loss of their leader. I am an American, and I am not a fan of our President Obama; however, if he were killed in a plane crash or an auto accident, it would still be a national tragedy.
Poland is a strong nation that traces it's history back a thousand years. It has endured many gains and losses in it's history. It was conquered by **** Germany (very different from modern Germany, please no flames for mentioning ****sm), yet arose into the economic power of eastern Europe it is today. Poland endured over a million of it's people carried off as slaves by the Tartars, yet still is held as being most responsible for finally halting the expansion of the Ottoman Empire in the Battle of Vienna (again, no insult to the Turks, it's just history).
So Poland, you are strong. Grieve, then stand back up and go back on the advance, as all the nations have come to expect from one of the toughest peoples in the world.
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Za'afiel
Gallente C.E.T.C.
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Posted - 2010.04.11 15:49:00 -
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Edited by: Za''afiel on 11/04/2010 15:53:17 Edited by: Za''afiel on 11/04/2010 15:51:58
Originally by: Brom Crysal Poland endured over a million of it's people carried off as slaves by the Tartars, yet still is held as being most responsible for finally halting the expansion of the Ottoman Empire in the Battle of Vienna (again, no insult to the Turks, it's just history).
The interesting point in history is that although we fought many battles with Turks, including Vienna mentioned by you, and for a very long time these two countries were considered as enemies, Ottoman Empire was the only european country that did not approve the partitions of Poland in 1772, 1793, and 1795.
Moreover, during 150 years of partition, the historians say that on a traditional annual meeting of Sultan with consuls from different european countries, the Sultans' habit was to ask his advisors in the presence of the officials from the countries responsible for partitions:
- And where is the representation of Poland? - Unfortunately, they could not come - answered the advisor
Originally by: Brom Crysal Our condolences to the families and friends of the victims of this terrible accident. Our condolences to the people of Poland for the loss of their leader.(...) So Poland, you are strong. Grieve, then stand back up and go back on the advance, as all the nations have come to expect from one of the toughest peoples in the world.
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Dimitryy
Gallente Ever Flow Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Herr Wilkus News Flash: Russian news agencies are reporting that the crash was believed to have been caused by 'pilot error.'
And the logs show nothing. ------------------------------------------
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.04.12 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dimitryy
Originally by: Herr Wilkus News Flash: Russian news agencies are reporting that the crash was believed to have been caused by 'pilot error.'
And the logs show nothing.
It seems the 'logs' are intact and being studied by a joint team of Polish and Russian investigators. It will be up to the Polish authorities to make public what they discover. ...
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Ravans
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.13 00:09:00 -
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Dont need the black box logs for the cause of crash. the cause is the pilot tried to land at an airfield in fog, the airfield was not equiped with ILS, the pilot had no descent profile guide and hence, landed short.
what the blackbox will show is if the president got up front and demanded the pilot land at the field, hes done it before in tiblisi.
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The AEther
Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.13 00:44:00 -
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Very tragic.
To all of those saying Russian government did this - if there was some kind of electrical malfunction, explosion on board, etc etc I'd say yet possible. But it was Polish pilot who flew the plane into trees when there was fog outside. You are also basically saying that Russian agents were working hard to get all these people aboard this single plane at exactly this date when there would be bad landing conditions for their plane and then somehow persuaded the pilot to fly so close to the ground. Poland and Russia have had disagreements before - so why now and why like this? I am sure they could have just put some dioxin into Polish president's soup too and not bother with such a grandiose operation of getting all those people on the plane to crash it.
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Kolterr
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Posted - 2010.04.15 02:41:00 -
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My dad used to work for aeroflot back in the 80s/90s. I spoke with him about this incident and he told me that even back then the Poles were very arrogant, when conditions were very bad for landing NO nation would attempt a landing except the Poles, they disregarded any advice given by the dispatchers time after time again. He told me that dispatchers may warn or give advice but if the captain decides to take the course of action then he is responsible for the consequences and by the looks of it this is exactly what happened, except their arrogance this time cost them their lives.
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