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Orar Ironfist
Gallente Incarnation of Evil
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Posted - 2010.04.12 00:34:00 -
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page 2 snypa
also awesomeness
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Tibalt Avalon
Amarr Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.12 00:59:00 -
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Edited by: Tibalt Avalon on 12/04/2010 01:03:37
No Titans Down Yet? Awesome Page btw, Very Handy, this Concept should be Adapted More Often.
Ohhh... http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6149145 http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=5945195 Hardstyle Ambassador |
LTD THOR
Caldari Liga Freier Terraner Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.04.12 01:05:00 -
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2 thumbs up!
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tadijka
Caldari SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.04.12 01:26:00 -
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Pick ME! Pick ME! We lost MS by....NC That counts or no? If not im quiting eve ( yes, you can take my stuff )
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Tibalt Avalon
Amarr Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.12 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: tadijka Pick ME! Pick ME! We lost MS by....NC That counts or no? If not im quiting eve ( yes, you can take my stuff )
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Tibalt Avalon
Amarr Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.04.12 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Karbowiak
Without further ado, i present you Killboard link removed.Applebabe
It updates daily during the downtime, so have your mails posted to by then Killboard link removed.Applebabe
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Miklas Laces
Gallente A.N.A.R.C.H.I.C.A
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Posted - 2010.04.12 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Miklas Laces on 12/04/2010 07:04:18
Originally by: Karbowiak People have been asking for a way to see how the fighting between the SC and NC have been going.
So EVSCO in collaboration with Peter Powers have decided to do something about this.
At this stage its very basic, but features will be added along the way.
Without further ado, i present you Killboard link removed.Applebabe
It updates daily during the downtime, so have your mails posted to by then Killboard link removed.Applebabe
Why CCP have always to be re-tards ?
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Marc Folk
Caldari Deliverers of Pain Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.04.12 08:22:00 -
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The site's Name is "Northern-Crusade", and the rest must be guesses, as we are not allowed to link to Killboards. The Mails must be posted on eve-kill.
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Setsuko NuKinni
Amarr Galactic Defence Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.12 08:44:00 -
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This is all fine and dandy, but you should focus on reducing the downtime of your killboards first tbh, they're always glitching.
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Karbowiak
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.04.12 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Setsuko NuKinni
This is all fine and dandy, but you should focus on reducing the downtime of your killboards first tbh, they're always glitching.
Can you recall a time in the past 3-4 weeks its been down? (Rather, AFTER we upgraded to EDK3 - besides the initial downtime).
I cant - neither can any of the alert scrips i have running (Lets put it like this, every 2 minutes services are checked - and if something is funky my iPhone goes nuts with girl'ish screams) Sofar - "she" hasnt screamed yet
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Setsuko NuKinni
Amarr Galactic Defence Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.04.12 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Karbowiak
Originally by: Setsuko NuKinni
This is all fine and dandy, but you should focus on reducing the downtime of your killboards first tbh, they're always glitching.
Can you recall a time in the past 3-4 weeks its been down? (Rather, AFTER we upgraded to EDK3 - besides the initial downtime).
I cant - neither can any of the alert scrips i have running (Lets put it like this, every 2 minutes services are checked - and if something is funky my iPhone goes nuts with girl'ish screams) Sofar - "she" hasnt screamed yet
tm.
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Blazde
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:02:00 -
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Originally by: Karbowiak Here are some rules if your corp/alliance is not added to the list. 1. you have to be blue to either IT or MM/RZR
You know as well as I do that you can be working with alliances without being blue to them. BoB certainly had a big history of doing exactly that in the past, and it's happened in very similar circumstances to now such as when NC + RSF + Tortuga were assaulting GBC. Obviously it's not neccesary to blue entities working on completely seperate fronts. So if you want this to have any legitimacy you need to make it 'Anyone defending the North' vs 'Anyone attacking the North' and not make it arbitrarily IT-centric. It's not too hard to do that in an impartial way.
Add to Crusaders:
White Noise. Circle-Of-Two Initiative Associates Legiunea ROmana T o r m e n t u m Legion of xXDEATHXx Shadow of xXDEATHXx Burning Ambition HUN Reloaded Quarantine Zone Dirt Nap Squad. Bloodbound. VooDoo Technologies Fear Th3 Vampires Dead Terrorists Ewoks Luminance Alliance
Add to Defenders: (or some other name, but don't call it Northern Coalition because the NC is a well defined entity that doesn't include LODRA for example)
Rebellion Alliance Dreddit (This will really boost your k/d e-peen :) )
I'll post again later if I think of more. _
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Blazde
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:10:00 -
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Apparently this might constitute proof that WN are working with IT: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1004/new_titan.png
I dunno, it could just be a titan sale. But I think it's irrelevant anyway, the fronts in Pure Blind and Venal are obviously mutually beneficial to both sets of attackers. _
Northern Coalition - Best friends forever <3 |
Kay Rizen
Minmatar Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:22:00 -
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lol, "the crusaders", get off your own nuts and call it what it is, the Dirty SouthÖ, or barring that call it what 99.9% of eve calls it, the southern coalition. at some point you guys stopped whining about blobbing and decided to form a coalition for some good fights. good on you, but don't shy away from the name that comes with it. [url=http://lawn.eve-kill.net?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=509200] [/url] |
Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:31:00 -
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There a way to add and update maybe once a week the number of people in each alliance on your tracker?
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TK420
Caldari Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:38:00 -
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I'm supposing that you would like this to be an objective look at the war rather than another piece of useless propaganda? While I doubt we can ask for unbiased people to do the reports it would be nice to see the list in detail rather than just kills/isk.
Why not show what types of ships are being killed each day and in total? When did your calculations start, April 1st?
It's a good tool, but I think you're cutting it short by not including details and proper lists.
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Karbowiak
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Blazde
Originally by: Karbowiak Here are some rules if your corp/alliance is not added to the list. 1. you have to be blue to either IT or MM/RZR
You know as well as I do that you can be working with alliances without being blue to them. BoB certainly had a big history of doing exactly that in the past, and it's happened in very similar circumstances to now such as when NC + RSF + Tortuga were assaulting GBC. Obviously it's not neccesary to blue entities working on completely seperate fronts. So if you want this to have any legitimacy you need to make it 'Anyone defending the North' vs 'Anyone attacking the North' and not make it arbitrarily IT-centric. It's not too hard to do that in an impartial way.
Add to Crusaders:
White Noise. Circle-Of-Two Initiative Associates Legiunea ROmana T o r m e n t u m Legion of xXDEATHXx Shadow of xXDEATHXx Burning Ambition HUN Reloaded Quarantine Zone Dirt Nap Squad. Bloodbound. VooDoo Technologies Fear Th3 Vampires Dead Terrorists Ewoks Luminance Alliance
Add to Defenders: (or some other name, but don't call it Northern Coalition because the NC is a well defined entity that doesn't include LODRA for example)
Rebellion Alliance Dreddit (This will really boost your k/d e-peen :) )
I'll post again later if I think of more.
and
Originally by: Blazde Apparently this might constitute proof that WN are working with IT: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1004/new_titan.png
I dunno, it could just be a titan sale. But I think it's irrelevant anyway, the fronts in Pure Blind and Venal are obviously mutually beneficial to both sets of attackers.
Involved parties has to shoot at the opposite site, and not both parties. So White Noise, Rebellion and Circle-Of-Two have to only shoot at one of the sides, not both. If they do shoot at both the kills wouldn't get counted, or get counted wrong.
Originally by: Kay Rizen lol, "the crusaders", get off your own nuts and call it what it is, the Dirty SouthÖ, or barring that call it what 99.9% of eve calls it, the southern coalition. at some point you guys stopped whining about blobbing and decided to form a coalition for some good fights. good on you, but don't shy away from the name that comes with it.
Someones mad, we called it Northern-Crusade cause every other name we came up with was lame - and isn't it sort of a Crusade? Noone likes the NC or its allies - everyone wants them dead. If thats not a Crusade, i dont know what is :P
But if you have a better name, please write it instead of writing stupidity
Originally by: Marlona Sky There a way to add and update maybe once a week the number of people in each alliance on your tracker?
Once new alliances or corps are added to the list i'll redo the stats for each day, as for the number of people in each alliance - it doesnt matter. It only counts kills done, not pilots involved or anything.
Tho that might be added at a later date
Originally by: TK420 I'm supposing that you would like this to be an objective look at the war rather than another piece of useless propaganda? While I doubt we can ask for unbiased people to do the reports it would be nice to see the list in detail rather than just kills/isk.
Why not show what types of ships are being killed each day and in total? When did your calculations start, April 1st?
It's a good tool, but I think you're cutting it short by not including details and proper lists.
The calculations started from the 1st April yes. As for showing more stats its coming, as pointed out in the initial post - its a very basic looking site right now, but more stuff is being made for it.
One of them is a battle list showing all the battles that has happened each day, in systems - with involved pilots, ships etc. etc. Depending on how much Peter wants to work on it, he will make it sexy or not
Time will tell..
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Skeltem
Amarr Free Space Initiative Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:44:00 -
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Just call this conflict what it is: North vs. South
The crusaders just got evicted.
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Peter Powers
Gallente FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: TK420 I'm supposing that you would like this to be an objective look at the war rather than another piece of useless propaganda? While I doubt we can ask for unbiased people to do the reports it would be nice to see the list in detail rather than just kills/isk.
Why not show what types of ships are being killed each day and in total?
A more detailed list is in work, as Karbowiak wrote, more features will be added step by step, the current state is the most basic information available.
Originally by: TK420
When did your calculations start, April 1st?
Yes, as thats the point of the official campaign start.
Originally by: TK420
It's a good tool, but I think you're cutting it short by not including details and proper lists.
I am currently reviewing which of the entities mentioned in this thread will be added, and there might actually be a few that qualify - however, we will not add parties that are neutral/hostile to both sides, since those could be counted for both sides.
Northern Crusade - Daily numbers on EVE's largest current conflict |
Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:11:00 -
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I'm mainly just disappointed that a group of people trying to provide a professional service would act in such a biased way, I mean the name aside, the NC is shown as red and the SC is blue.
I think there may be a marketing opportunity here though, perhaps time to set up an alternative killboard hosting service, I'm pretty sure where the southern coalition alliances would be spending their money next.
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Faekurias
Caldari Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Meno Theaetetus I'm mainly just disappointed that a group of people trying to provide a professional service would act in such a biased way, I mean the name aside, the NC is shown as red and the SC is blue.
I think there may be a marketing opportunity here though, perhaps time to set up an alternative killboard hosting service, I'm pretty sure where the southern coalition alliances would be spending their money next.
Your sig is Red.
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Blazde
Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:22:00 -
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I have no idea what you're getting at Karb. There's all kinds of accidental blue-on-blue kills messing up the stats already with just your selective list. Rebellion are a part of the NC. They're in RAWR's only guest slot. White Noise and Circle-Of-Two are killing our towers which is pretty much the definition of invading in EVE (tower killing was the basis for me listing most of those entities).
If this site is just weak propoganda then fair enough, I wasted my time trying to compile an accurate list. If you want it to be some kind of legitimate record of the war (something I for one have wanted to see in EVE for years) then you need to add in the people actually fighting the war.
Sev3rance should go on the north too btw.
And is it possible to do something about all those duplicated tower mails (in general on the killboards, not just in these stats)? _
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Peter Powers
Gallente FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Blazde I have no idea what you're getting at Karb. There's all kinds of accidental blue-on-blue kills messing up the stats already with just your selective list. Rebellion are a part of the NC. They're in RAWR's only guest slot. White Noise and Circle-Of-Two are killing our towers which is pretty much the definition of invading in EVE (tower killing was the basis for me listing most of those entities).
If this site is just weak propoganda then fair enough, I wasted my time trying to compile an accurate list. If you want it to be some kind of legitimate record of the war (something I for one have wanted to see in EVE for years) then you need to add in the people actually fighting the war.
Sev3rance should go on the north too btw.
And is it possible to do something about all those duplicated tower mails (in general on the killboards, not just in these stats)?
First of all, Karbowiak cant answer atm, he got a forum ban.
Second, inter-side-kills as stated before are not counted, meaning if IT by accident shoots at the initiative, those kills will not be counted for IT.
Third, entities like white noise, sev3rance etc are actively shooting on both sides, hence by your own argumentation we could also count them towards the defenders, bottom line, they will not be added at all, till they clearly joined one side.
Besides that we are currently editing the list of involved entities taking in account alliances that have been mentioned in this thread, and when done a list of changes will be posted here, but all of those qualify for being for either one side.
Northern Crusade - Daily numbers on EVE's largest current conflict |
thoth rothschild
Gallente Strategic Solutions Ltd. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.12 10:56:00 -
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Only kills are counted if
a) Ally Killboard contains a killmail and b) Enemy Killboard contains a Lossmail
We¦re back to our basic problem why we demanded such a servicem, which was enemy not posting lossmails....
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Peter Powers
Gallente FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: thoth rothschild Only kills are counted if a) Ally Killboard contains a killmail and b) Enemy Killboard contains a Lossmail We¦re back to our basic problem why we demanded such a servicem, which was enemy not posting lossmails....
you got this wrong, all mails that are imported by EVSCO are taken in account, when a killmail shows me for example as a victim, and you are one of the killers, then it will be counted, no matter if it was posted as a kill on yours, or a loss on ours - the relevant information is that i am on the loser side of that mail, and you are on the winner side.
Northern Crusade - Daily numbers on EVE's largest current conflict |
thoth rothschild
Gallente Strategic Solutions Ltd. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.04.12 11:33:00 -
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Thank you for the fast response :)
Finally we got a page where we get at least a climpse of what happens around us! Keep up this great work.
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Peter Powers
Gallente FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 11:56:00 -
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Changes:
Tormentum Insomea Corporation - changed (T O R M E N T U M Alliance) Clockwork Pineapple - removed Legiunea ROmana - added (Crusaders) Sev3rance - added (NC, my apologies here for earlier post, seems i missunderstood some friendly fire) Burning Ambition - added (Crusaders) HUN Reloaded - added (Crusaders) Quarantine Zone - added (Crusaders) Dirt Nap Squad. - added (Crusaders) Ewoks - added (Crusaders) Rebellion Alliance - added (NC)
Northern Crusade - Daily numbers on EVE's largest current conflict |
Hinkledolph
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.04.12 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Karbowiak
Originally by: Setsuko NuKinni
This is all fine and dandy, but you should focus on reducing the downtime of your killboards first tbh, they're always glitching.
Can you recall a time in the past 3-4 weeks its been down? (Rather, AFTER we upgraded to EDK3 - besides the initial downtime).
I cant - neither can any of the alert scrips i have running (Lets put it like this, every 2 minutes services are checked - and if something is funky my iPhone goes nuts with girl'ish screams) Sofar - "she" hasnt screamed yet
It's true. Karbowiak always had problem making women scream...
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Rover Vitesse
Gallente FinFleet IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.12 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Meno Theaetetus I'm mainly just disappointed that a group of people trying to provide a professional service would act in such a biased way, I mean the name aside, the NC is shown as red and the SC is blue.
I notice you have an issue with the colours, and am not sure what this would be in an Eve context. Are you upset that Red = Amarr or Blue = Caldari ?
Are you British; upset that this is politicised and Blue = Conservative or Red = Labour ?
I am assuming that you are upset that Red = Warsaw Pact (which hasn't been a threat to your western decadence for almost twenty years) and NATO = Blue ? If this is the case then I suggest you take your prejudicial outrage elsewhere.
Just as a point of interest, until the 1950s the UK used Red for British Forces (what else considering the colour of the Army!) and only switched when it became clear that the Warsaw Pact were the "new enemy".
To get round the issue of upsetting ex-WP forces now within NATO, it is becoming trendy to use Orange as Enemy Forces. Perhaps the Dutch don't get offended.
Meno, I expect you're the same type of person who gets upset when those boards used in classrooms are called a Blackboard.
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wtfgecko
Gallente C.R.M Productions BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.04.12 12:41:00 -
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Not that I object to the colour scheme, but could you kinda make them a bit less eye-hurtingly blue and red (especially white on red).
And I have a funny feeling you've doctored the 'Crusaders' total isk killed. http://imgur.com/Y7jKj.png
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