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Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 01:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Havohej First you compare me to Archbishop and call us enemies. Now you accuse us of running our own slave auction. You may consider this notice of hostile standings effective immediately. Well you are similar to Archbishop in many ways. Notice received and recipricated. Confirming the slaver collaborators of Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics are -10 to the Star Fraction with immediate effect matching your own standings to us. True Knowledge
Esna Pitoojee Amarr Order of the Golden Lobster	Posted - 2010.04.19 01:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. I am. ---------------------------------------------- Say "Amarr ships suk, lol." I dare you. My statments do not represent the opinions, views, or actions of my corp.
Mizhara Del'thul Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2010.04.19 04:15:00 - [33] ... and you actually have the gall to call others liars, spinners or propaganda spewers? I spend two weeks planetbound, and this is what I return to? You've finally gone off the deep end, Constantine. You've passed the point of public speaker and gone straight into the role of raving lunatic, crying out accusations and conspiracy theories to the annoyance and amusement of the passersby. I would recommend getting a better intelligence service. If that's the best you can do, Star Fraction's doomed to fall under the weight of utterly incompetent and insane leadership. But very well... if Star Fraction has been deluded into thinking I employ slaver mouthpieces, then come for me. I will be here... waiting to see the hypocrisy of Star Fraction displayed so thoroughly when you strike at those who fight against your proclaimed enemies. Disappointing, Constantine... very disappointing. She actually looks coldly amused at this little proof that Star Fraction's leadership has almost no grasp on reality.
Zuzanna Alondra Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2010.04.19 05:24:00 - [34] Edited by: Zuzanna Alondra on 19/04/2010 05:24:03 Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Jade Constantine How do I respond? Well, in due consideration of your IGS posting history, your associations, verbal style and the purpose of your propaganda (and indeed intervention and linkage to a discredited thread launched by another foe of the fraction) I respond by condemning you as an obvious false flag operation owned and operated by Mizhara Del'thul of Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics. You exist merely to allow Du'uma Fiisi pilot Del'thul to condemn and "heroically" oppose your imaginary deeds. First you compare me to Archbishop and call us enemies. Now you accuse us of running our own slave auction. You may consider this notice of hostile standings effective immediately. Jade - I can't believe this. I really thought we left SF on good terms, last I checked half of the people I com on a regular basis and keep touch with are members of Star Fraction. Seems a very sad day when folks who should be friends and working together are hunting one another. I would hope the rest of the Fraction knows us better then that, but 'tis the path you have chosen for the rest of them. Hopefully not too many of them are bitter with you for it. Originally by: Esna Pitoojee Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. I am. You know what - I'm tired of being nice. Be neutral with Jade if you wish, furthers my thoughts about her, but if Havohej hasn't beat me to it - I'd stay far away from my turrets. Once again - very much a shame, you know what your doing is wrong and in a better world we would of still be friends. Perhaps one day you'll learn.
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2010.04.19 05:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. This is true. Revan is blue. Yes. Yes, I am.
Havohej Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2010.04.19 05:30:00 - [36] Originally by: Zuzanna Alondra Originally by: Esna Pitoojee Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. I am. You know what - I'm tired of being nice. Be neutral with Jade if you wish, furthers my thoughts about her, but if Havohej hasn't beat me to it - I'd stay far away from my turrets. Once again - very much a shame, you know what your doing is wrong and in a better world we would of still be friends. Perhaps one day you'll learn. It's about time you stopped waiting for slavers to redeem themselves on their own. Du'uma Fiisi is Recruiting
Esna Pitoojee Amarr Order of the Golden Lobster	Posted - 2010.04.19 05:33:00 - [37] Edited by: Esna Pitoojee on 19/04/2010 05:34:54 Originally by: Zuzanna Alondra Edited by: Zuzanna Alondra on 19/04/2010 05:24:03 Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Jade Constantine How do I respond? Well, in due consideration of your IGS posting history, your associations, verbal style and the purpose of your propaganda (and indeed intervention and linkage to a discredited thread launched by another foe of the fraction) I respond by condemning you as an obvious false flag operation owned and operated by Mizhara Del'thul of Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics. You exist merely to allow Du'uma Fiisi pilot Del'thul to condemn and "heroically" oppose your imaginary deeds. First you compare me to Archbishop and call us enemies. Now you accuse us of running our own slave auction. You may consider this notice of hostile standings effective immediately. Jade - I can't believe this. I really thought we left SF on good terms, last I checked half of the people I com on a regular basis and keep touch with are members of Star Fraction. Seems a very sad day when folks who should be friends and working together are hunting one another. I would hope the rest of the Fraction knows us better then that, but 'tis the path you have chosen for the rest of them. Hopefully not too many of them are bitter with you for it. Originally by: Esna Pitoojee Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. I am. You know what - I'm tired of being nice. Be neutral with Jade if you wish, furthers my thoughts about her, but if Havohej hasn't beat me to it - I'd stay far away from my turrets. Once again - very much a shame, you know what your doing is wrong and in a better world we would of still be friends. Perhaps one day you'll learn. Evidently the sarcasm in my response was missed. "Neutral" is hardly how I'd describe it. ---------------------------------------------- Say "Amarr ships suk, lol." I dare you. My statments do not represent the opinions, views, or actions of my corp.
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 06:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Zuzanna Alondra I would hope the rest of the Fraction knows us better then that, but 'tis the path you have chosen for the rest of them. Hopefully not too many of them are bitter with you for it. In case you havent noticed dear Zuzanna, it is the emotions of your, not so thick skinned, executor that has brought hostile standings to the table.
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 07:04:00 - [39] Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 19/04/2010 07:11:28 Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. This is true. Revan is blue. you obviously don't pay attention, or am I still an Ammatar Slave then? keep up, dear. Originally by: Havohej You may consider this notice of hostile standings effective immediately. tomahawk pauses and blinks. he reads again, tilting his head slightly with a confused frown what a stupid waste of resources. Crew, Hulls, Time and bullets that could be shot at real enemies will now be wasted in the debris fields of this responce. Originally by: Mizhara Del'thul then come for me. I will be here... waiting to see the hypocrisy of Star Fraction displayed so thoroughly when you strike at those who fight against your proclaimed enemies. little cousin, you set us red. You were not set red for that little trash propaganda you posted here not so long ago. Do not make pretence to your besmirched virginity. Now since I have long been Du'uma Fiisi's most stalwart supporter to the Star Fraction, it is only right this new Kill On Site farce start with me. You know where to find me, if you dare? Or is your contribution limited to bitter threads where you stupidly support protection from bullets for corp thieves while trying to dictate to SF how to run its own RoE? I've seem Du'uma Fiisi fight, i've flow with them even after they left Star Fraction and I did not see you. Shut your trap and open your gunports. ******************************** www.eve-chatsubo.com A long term Role-Play, Fiction and EVE storyline community.
Havohej Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2010.04.19 07:27:00 - [40] Originally by: Mazca Lopez In case you havent noticed dear Zuzanna, it is the emotions of your, not so thick skinned, executor that has brought hostile standings to the table. If I weren't thick-skinned, I would've declared you all targets after this incident of your beloved leader running her mouth off. I don't know how much you expect us to listen to and still maintain an amicable disposition toward your alliance, but I know how much we were willing to. Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss what a stupid waste of resources. Crew, Hulls, Time and bullets that could be shot at real enemies will now be wasted in the debris fields of this responce. Your leader has been treating us like real enemies since we left your alliance. Now it's formal. Backstage OOC Forum @EVE-Inspiracy.com
Mizhara Del'thul Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2010.04.19 07:32:00 - [41] Bliss, baby, I've set no one red. However, Star Fraction deciding to call Du'uma Fiisi... more specifically me... a slaver. Well, that's an insult far beyond any my real enemies have ever thrown towards me or any other Matari. That was a declaration of war. It was hostility at a level that Constantine showing up herself firing upon our forces wouldn't match. Do you have even the slightest grasp of what that insult means? You proclaim to have been a Du'uma Fiisi supporter in Star Fraction, and yet there's been nothing but lies and insults leveled at Du'uma Fiisi from that direction since I first became aware of them. Your 'support' has apparently amounted to nothing, wouldn't you agree? Star Fractions lies, baseless slander and accusations along with the pathetic spins and arrogance... it's too much. Do you truly not see how you foster hatred and enemies even amongst those who would be your friends and allies? All due to the despicable lies and vile speculation presented as 'fact'. Call it a stupid waste of resources if you wish. Some insults are simply beyond tolerating.
ChipMo Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 08:05:00 - [42] *ChipMo bursts into laughter ..silly move there havo, lets see if you can back it up in space.
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 08:15:00 - [43] Originally by: Havohej If I weren't thick-skinned, I would've declared you all targets after this incident of your beloved leader running her mouth off. Your little protege made an attempt to undermine the most core principle of SF, what did you expect in return? roses!
Tetseptus Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 12:34:00 - [44] Havohej, I knew one day you would be red to us. Your own hot temper has brought us to this point, and it was your own hot temper that gave me that insight so long ago too. And do not pretend that you have not been waiting for the excuse to fire on us for just as long. Your thinly-veiled and presumptuous disapproval has been clear throughout. Tetseptus, Vherokior Fighter 2nd Generation Free-Born
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.04.19 12:53:00 - [45] Edited by: Archbishop on 19/04/2010 12:53:50 Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. This is true. Revan is blue. This would imply the Star Fraction is a bunch of double standard hypocrites not a valiant force fighting for freedom... But wait, they've already said they don't fight for others and have never claimed to thus they obviously wouldn't fight for slaves as those slaves could fight for themselves if they wanted to be free. Obviously the Star Fraction has proved once again they are violent anarchists who seek combat and conflict and have NO GREATER CAUSE like free space, freeing slaves or anything else they claim to want to project. Here again we see the Star Fracion modify one of their ever flexible "rules" in this case setting corporations that have fired upon them -10. As we see here obviously they were lying about that as many of these other corporations including the SPCS have never taken action against them. Another trend we see played out here is the Star Fraction attempting to stifle free speech by threatening anyone who dares question them. Far from the virtuous "free space seekers" they've tried to claim to be they obviously are instead bullies, no different then pirates, who seek to stifle any public dissent with the threat of the Star Fraction war machine. Hypocrites = CHECK Violent = CHECK Lying = CHECK Double Standards = CHECK Oppressors of Free Speech = CHECK Perhaps the anarchist Darveses would like to comment on these observations and explain them in the fact of such obvious exposed contradictions. Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP PORTAL
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 13:18:00 - [46] There is nothing new in the Star Fraction setting active supporters of the empires we oppose to -10 with notice on a political basis. We have done it before, I dare say we shall do it in the future. One of the more recent times I explained this was a year ago. It wasn't news then and it isn't news now. Originally by: "The Cosmopolite, YC111.05.03" If people take hostile action against us, they can expect violence. If people are active in the militias of the empires that we are actively opposing, they may expect violent opposition but we will always give them notice assuming they have not aggressed us. If people actively support the military adventures or expansionist policies of the empires we oppose then they may also expect violent opposition, but again we will give notice if they have not already aggressed us. All the corporations set to -10 with notice in this thread qualify on the above basis. Nothing new here. The attempt by Archbishop to portray this as a change to longstanding Star Fraction policy is simply nonsensical. It is not true in any respect. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Lord Murkon Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.04.19 13:30:00 - [47] Originally by: "The Cosmopolite, YC111.05.03" If people take hostile action against us, they can expect violence. If people are active in the militias of the empires that we are actively opposing, they may expect violent opposition but we will always give them notice assuming they have not aggressed us. If people actively support the military adventures or expansionist policies of the empires we oppose then they may also expect violent opposition, but again we will give notice if they have not already aggressed us. Please provide evidence proving the SPCS has: 1. Taken hostile action against you. 2. Been active in the Amarr militia. 3. Supported military adventures or expansionist policies. Just as a reminder the SPCS has one purpose and one purpose only that being the care and training of Minmatar slaves. While we pledge obedience to God and the Empress we are decidedly non-military and non-political. Thus to clarify. 1. We have never taken hostile action against you. 2. We have never been a part of the Amarr militia. 3. We have never participated in military adventures or expansionist policies. Lord Murkon SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 13:38:00 - [48] You qualify on the third ground as you actively support the expansionist policies of the Amarr Empire and have provided logistical and infrastructural support for this policy by your placing of 'slave-processing' starbases throughout the cluster. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Lord Murkon Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.04.19 13:49:00 - [49] Originally by: The Cosmopolite You qualify on the third ground as you actively support the expansionist policies of the Amarr Empire and have provided logistical and infrastructural support for this policy by your placing of 'slave-processing' starbases throughout the cluster. The Cosmopolite Explain how deploying a Slave Processing Facility is supporting expansionism. Is it not true ships have the capability of flying from Rens to Amarr without refueling? Thus one can conclude the only service we provide is offering care, treatment and processing for new slaves and former slaves who are leaving the empire. While this is "slave logistics" it is not "logistics supporting expansionism". Lord Murkon SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 13:57:00 - [50] Listen to me, Murkon, it is quite simple: you're a slaver and an active supporter of the expansionist policies of the Amarr Empire. You deploy facilities for the express purpose of actively supporting the policies of the Amarr Empire in space. You are our enemy. We have given you the requisite notice under our longstanding policy. I suggest you stop complaining about it because, as has been pointed out by others aligned with the Amarr Empire, it is rather pathethic. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:15:00 - [51] Cosmopolite, You continue to bark up the wrong tree. Lord Murkon (and myself) are not complaining about that we are your enemy. We are complaining about the manner in which you declare your enemies. Because the way you do so in practice doesn't conform to the way you say you declare enemies. Simply put, Star Fraction continually tries to claim some kind of moral high ground by formulating all kinds of abstract rules and principles violation of which would make one SF's enemy. The problem is, that at the end of the day all those vaunted principles boil down to 'if we don't like you, we declare you hostile', and 'if we don't like you, we won't even offer a diplomatic solution'. Just leave out all that nonsense about 'logistics support for the expansion of the Empire' and all those other principles and rules you don't really stand for. Be honest and clear for once. That way you don't have to twist and contort each time someone points out a contradiction and your CEO can just continue dating a mass-murdering slaver without having to come up with artificial 'public/private' distinctions and the like. By now the list of Star Fraction exceptions, escape-clauses, contradictory rulings and assorted odd arguments are longer than the complete Amarrian scriptures. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:26:00 - [52] Actually, Merdaneth, it is the rather pathetic attempts by enemies of freedom to wriggle out of the consequences of their actions that now rival the Amarrian scriptures for both length and convolutions. We in the Star Fraction are simply applying some very simple and basic principles that anyone not intent on misdirection can understand quite clearly. Let me repeat them again: Originally by: "The Cosmopolite If people take hostile action against us, they can expect violence. If people are active in the militias of the empires that we are actively opposing, they may expect violent opposition but we will always give them notice assuming they have not aggressed us. If people actively support the military adventures or expansionist policies of the empires we oppose then they may also expect violent opposition, but again we will give notice if they have not already aggressed us. Perhaps grab a hold of your dignity and cease your bleatings now? The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Lord Murkon Amarr SPCS	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:35:00 - [53] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Listen to me, Murkon, it is quite simple: you're a slaver and an active supporter of the expansionist policies of the Amarr Empire. You deploy facilities for the express purpose of actively supporting the policies of the Amarr Empire in space. You are our enemy. We have given you the requisite notice under our longstanding policy. I suggest you stop complaining about it because, as has been pointed out by others aligned with the Amarr Empire, it is rather pathethic. The Cosmopolite If I buy something in an Amarrian station or any other empires stations I'm paying taxes to the Amarr government thus I am supporting them. If I refrain from shooting someone who is -10 in empire space in the abscence of a war declaration because of Concord or Navy intervention I am thus supporting their policies and they are dictating my actions. I would have to say anyone in the Eve cluster is guilty of these two things (including yourself). This means any pilot in Eve is a potential target for the Star Fraction as they exercise their "Focus on Violence" ethos. Obviously no one is "free" in a universe with such people running loose. Rest assured the SPCS will not be detered from it's mission by a few pirates with a fancy vocabulary. We are dedicated to helping the Minmatar and we will continue to do so. Starting with the upcoming deployment of our newest slave processing center and other initiatives in the pipeline we will continue our aggressive efforts to improve the lives of slaves and freed slaves. Given the Star Fraction has declined to declare war on the SPCS and the fact we mostly operate in high-security space I have to believe this entire thread is just another vain attempt by the Star Fraction to garner some PR whereever they can. If every corporation in Eve changed standings by press release these boards would be very crowded indeed. Fortunately the other 99.9% of Eve corporations aren't afflicted with their ego. Lord Murkon SPCS CEO Lord Murkon SPCS - Serving the pathetic Minmatar and lessor races by the grace of God
Tetseptus Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:36:00 - [54] ...And surely it is worthy of note that Star Fraction changed standings in response to standings being made red to Star Fraction. Tetseptus, Vherokior Fighter 2nd Generation Free-Born
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:47:00 - [55] Originally by: Tetseptus ...And surely it is worthy of note that Star Fraction changed standings in response to standings being made red to Star Fraction. Indeed. However note that Angel Wing has not and will not set Star Fraction to red in response to being declared hostile by Star Fraction itself. I will contact Star Fraction members privately to explain these reasons, as is customary and proper with diplomacy. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Darveses DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:49:00 - [56] Originally by: Archbishop Edited by: Archbishop on 19/04/2010 12:53:50 Originally by: Shirley Serious Originally by: Darveses Slavers are not neutral to the Star Fraction. This is true. Revan is blue. This would imply the Star Fraction is a bunch of double standard hypocrites not a valiant force fighting for freedom... But wait, they've already said they don't fight for others and have never claimed to thus they obviously wouldn't fight for slaves as those slaves could fight for themselves if they wanted to be free. Obviously the Star Fraction has proved once again they are violent anarchists who seek combat and conflict and have NO GREATER CAUSE like free space, freeing slaves or anything else they claim to want to project. Here again we see the Star Fracion modify one of their ever flexible "rules" in this case setting corporations that have fired upon them -10. As we see here obviously they were lying about that as many of these other corporations including the SPCS have never taken action against them. Another trend we see played out here is the Star Fraction attempting to stifle free speech by threatening anyone who dares question them. Far from the virtuous "free space seekers" they've tried to claim to be they obviously are instead bullies, no different then pirates, who seek to stifle any public dissent with the threat of the Star Fraction war machine. Hypocrites = CHECK Violent = CHECK Lying = CHECK Double Standards = CHECK Oppressors of Free Speech = CHECK Perhaps the anarchist Darveses would like to comment on these observations and explain them in the fact of such obvious exposed contradictions. Archbishop Even if slavers aren't set red by us, they're still slavers and therefore qualify as political enemies of the Star Fraction. Period. Did we set 50 Amarr Militia corporations red because they all fired upon us? No, because they are political enemies. Not that hard to understand, is it? As for DFIAS...well, at least now you can stop fighting your anonymous war against us with agents, mouthpieces and subtle backstabs on the IGS, and actually use your guns for it. --- Star Fraction Public - The new Channel
Mazca Lopez Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 14:57:00 - [57] An d being a payed legitimacy front of praetorian shipyard, governed by PIE leaders and other expantionist s****makes your statment rather moot. It would seem from above link that Archie even has to approve your writings and by 'accident' signs them himself sometimes.
Havohej Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2010.04.19 15:19:00 - [58] Originally by: Tetseptus Your thinly-veiled and presumptuous disapproval has been clear throughout. Presumptuous is the definition of Jericho Fraction, you lackey. I've never once seen you express an opinion that more forceful personalities in your corporation didn't give you and I doubt I ever will. You're barely even a Minmatar. Out of all of them, you disgusted me the most. Originally by: Mazca Lopez Your little protege made an attempt to undermine the most core principle of SF, what did you expect in return? roses! It appeared those principles had changed. When The Cosmopolite demonstrated that they hadn't, we expressed our disappointment, acknowledged it (while giving our endorsement of the NBSI RoE and a brief explanation of why we believed -SF- really should reconsider it) and moved on. Your Great Leader chose to call us enemies well after that took place. Since we knew the truth of it and since -SF- was shooting at people we hated (rather than merely disliked), we let it go. Now, thanks to Ushra'Khan and Against ALL Authorities, the old Providence has been crushed. We have no more reason, no more desire, and no more patience to ignore the incessant, asinine ramblings of your Great Leader. Originally by: Darveses As for DFIAS...well, at least now you can stop fighting your anonymous war against us with agents, mouthpieces and subtle backstabs on the IGS, and actually use your guns for it. I expect JERIC pilots to believe everything their Great Leader tells them, but my estimation of DX4 was quite a bit higher. As I told your CEO, when Jade apologizes for the constant nonsense, we'll reset our standings to -SF-. You can bloc-post with JERIC and create animosity between our corporations if you choose, but I urge you to look at the foolishness you're defending and decide whether you want to paint yourself and your comrades with that same brush. You don't have to like us shooting at each other; I'd prefer not to shoot at DX4, LYRUS or SIF... unfortunately, New Eden doesn't work that way. Backstage OOC Forum @EVE-Inspiracy.com
Tetseptus Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 15:49:00 - [59] Originally by: Havohej ...you lackey. I've never once seen you express an opinion that more forceful personalities in your corporation didn't give you and I doubt I ever will. You're barely even a Minmatar. Out of all of them, you disgusted me the most. And why is that, Havohej? Clarify your position and show your true colours. What is it about me specifically that you despise so? Or is this just posturing and noise like the other venom you have issued forth? Tetseptus, Vherokior Fighter 2nd Generation Free-Born
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.04.19 15:56:00 - [60] Originally by: Havohej Presumptuous is the definition of Jericho Fraction, you lackey. I've never once seen you express an opinion that more forceful personalities in your corporation didn't give you and I doubt I ever will. You're barely even a Minmatar. Out of all of them, you disgusted me the most. No surprise since Tetseptus is everything you are not. Brave, capable, idealistic and committed to the cause of freedom. You on the other hand are pathetic gutless paranoid-obsessive incapable of any kind of enduring support for free expression and open political views. The moment you realized that you couldn't bully your way to dominance inside the Fraction you left to become the top rooster on your own steeple and that would be fine, but you felt the need to allow your corporation members to make ridiculous accusations against the Fraction in this summit and engage in very shady occupations. Quote: It appeared those principles had changed. When The Cosmopolite demonstrated that they hadn't, we expressed our disappointment, acknowledged it I'll quote your acknowledgement from that thread. (source) Quote: Originally by: Havohej I do not acknowledge a mistake was made and I do not withdraw a single word DF1AS Pilots spoke. In other worlds you had Mizhara post her poisonous lies and then you uphold them all, refusing to withdraw "a single word." Congratulations for becoming a liar of the Archbishop level. Quote: As I told your CEO, when Jade apologizes for the constant nonsense, we'll reset our standings to -SF-. See you in hell. You may get a reset of standings when you publish a full apology and withdrawl of all material posted by Mizhara on this summit telling lies about the Fraction alongside a frank admission of your own failings as a leader and diplomat for your tawdry little band of coffee-shop fake-fighting-amarrian collaborators. Quote: You don't have to like us shooting at each other; I'd prefer not to shoot at DX4, LYRUS or SIF... unfortunately, New Eden doesn't work that way. I'm sure you'd prefer to shoot at Jericho Fraction alone or lets go one better. I challenge you a duel you honourless dog. You and me, battleships of choice. No restrictions on fitting or equipment. We will warp 100 above the space and freedom tower in Kamela and fight till only one of us is left. Anyone who warps out is a gutless swine. This will be a fight to the death. The loser will leave the capsule on the field to be executed by the winner. I stand by everything I have said about you Havohej. Let us see if you have the courage to fight half as well as you cough out barely coherent accusations and mealy-mouthed excuses for your puling subordinates. I slap you round the face and say that your ancestors are embarrassed by the worm you have become. Fight or be known a coward hereafter. True Knowledge

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