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PR0PHETOFDOOM Caldari MIME Inc	Posted - 2010.04.18 12:22:00 - [1] So CVA has lost most of its stations by news reports and the eve populus but why is it that i look at the map and CVA still hopd alot of sov in Prov? Is it supposed to be that way or is it anyone stupid feature from Dominion?
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 12:25:00 - [2] They hold sov in a lot of useless systems still, all their stations(and there a lot) are now under control of AAA and UK, and what little high end moons providence has are probably towered by the two alliance mentioned. _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
Veronica Damask	Posted - 2010.04.18 12:40:00 - [3] CVA fail cascaded and finally the last NRDS alliance went down in flames.
Gieron Middleton and Mercer LLP Consortium.	Posted - 2010.04.18 12:49:00 - [4] Originally by: PR0PHETOFDOOM why is it that i look at the map and CVA still hopd alot of sov in Prov? Look again
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 13:51:00 - [5] About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2010.04.18 14:19:00 - [6] They currently have 13 systems and the only reason they still have them will be because the systems are not important nor are they wanted immediately. CVA will most likely just lose the systems when they don't pay the bills and eventually someone will take them if and when they want to. You have to remember that it costs isk to hold systems and people are not going to pay for a system that has no advantage to them.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.04.18 14:30:00 - [7] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. So you prefer that players stay in Empire space then? Personally I think we should encourage everyone who takes a step into deep space, no matter how small or what step it is. and if NRDS brings players out from empire into deep space, I am really for that idea Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Dopehead Industries Republic Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 14:44:00 - [8] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. Not sure who you are? Foundati0n may have gone........CVA may be on the back foot....But there are still some of us with the commitment,determination and honour to pursue an NRDS policy.. Oh and matey! Some of us were flying NRDS before you were even produced from the clone vat,still do and definitely aren't carebears... So your words about people being in nullsec unless they have earned the right...some of us have and still earn our right every damned day killing pirates and NBSI types who can't show respect for other forms of government and existence beside their own no-brainer easy mode preference.
Soulita Gallente Inner Core	Posted - 2010.04.18 14:52:00 - [9] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. I will just ignore the silly part of your quote, little one. About NRDS: - Player policed space, a much more interesting concept than AI concord. - Possibility to kill without certain concordoken - Interesting possibilities for pirates - Interesting possibilities for non-group players etc. NRDS was one castle in the sandbox that is eve, that got erased for now. Personally, I regret that. I think it was a pretty cool castle.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.18 14:52:00 - [10] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. Yes because hotdropping a cap fleet on anything that moves is the pinnicle of leet nullsec pvp. I'd rather hang with smart 'carebears' who play all the games content than zombie alliance members who can only do what their fc tells them to do then log off after the gank to go whoor the forums and preen in CAOD because they has cap ships lulululz. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!

Johnny Dexter	Posted - 2010.04.18 15:02:00 - [11] Paxton Federation still owns an entire constellation in Providence and their systems are only a handful of jumps from empire space. The new renters are so inexperienced and lousy you shouldn't have any problems passing through their space, CVA is doing a pretty good job of keeping the R3 area clear of hostiles.
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Dopehead Industries Republic Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 15:25:00 - [12] Would appear that the obituaries for NRDS are a little premature given the replies here so far. What a lot of people also fail to see about NRDS is that it is a mechanic to encourage newer pilots and corps into nullsec...to alow them to learn how to survive etc. Some stay,some move on....but most become better for it..in terms of their attitude and maturity. Also as most groups that operate NRDS are small...these pilots often learn how to fight superior numbers with tactics etc.(albeit as limited within the game mechanics.)and gain experience in small/medium gangs rather than the huge blobs that larger alliances and powerblocs tend to employ. Of course we could all just embrace NBSI and become mindless sheep aligned to one of the major goups but why give up one's individuality,Independance and Free Thinking? Hell..if all Eve was NBSI..how long before everyone is napped to everyone else as seems to be the growing trend?
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 15:49:00 - [13] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. Yes because hotdropping a cap fleet on anything that moves is the pinnicle of leet nullsec pvp. I'd rather hang with smart 'carebears' who play all the games content than zombie alliance members who can only do what their fc tells them to do then log off after the gank to go whoor the forums and preen in CAOD because they has cap ships lulululz. Jokes on you as i can't hotdrop, namely as ccp's netcode wont allow it _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
Kirra Liu Echelon Holdings Echelon.	Posted - 2010.04.18 15:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Johnny Dexter The new renters are so inexperienced and lousy you shouldn't have any problems passing through their space There are no renters at the moment as far as I am aware. Also as for them being "inexperienced", what a load of crap. I haven't been down Providence for a while but I have lived in and around that space for the most part of four years fighting on different sides. UK have plenty of experience as it has been their hunting ground for years and used to be their home years ago. -A- again have used that area as their hunting ground for a long time and have plenty of experience with defending their own home in Catch. Sodalitas XX have a lot of ex-Shadow of xXDEATHXx members I believe who are experienced with life in 0.0. Atlas, as much as I am not a fan they have years of experience of 0.0 warfare and Noir. make a living out of blowing people up. So yeah, your post sucks.
Stella Tradewind	Posted - 2010.04.18 15:56:00 - [15] Originally by: Johnny Dexter The new renters are so inexperienced and lousy you shouldn't have any problems passing through their space, CVA is doing a pretty good job of keeping the R3 area clear of hostiles. Trying to decide if you actually are clueless or just buthurt in some way because of events in providence.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.18 15:59:00 - [16] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Originally by: Zeba Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. Yes because hotdropping a cap fleet on anything that moves is the pinnicle of leet nullsec pvp. I'd rather hang with smart 'carebears' who play all the games content than zombie alliance members who can only do what their fc tells them to do then log off after the gank to go whoor the forums and preen in CAOD because they has cap ships lulululz. Jokes on you as i can't hotdrop, namely as ccp's netcode wont allow it Orly? I don't have any issues with jumping my cap ships about or fighting in low sec in whatever ship I am currently piloting. Seems you are misplacing the target of the 'joke'. and all the carebears laughed Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
TheLordofAllandNothing Caldari NailorTech Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 16:05:00 - [17] Edited by: TheLordofAllandNothing on 18/04/2010 16:05:33 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Originally by: Zeba Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. Yes because hotdropping a cap fleet on anything that moves is the pinnicle of leet nullsec pvp. I'd rather hang with smart 'carebears' who play all the games content than zombie alliance members who can only do what their fc tells them to do then log off after the gank to go whoor the forums and preen in CAOD because they has cap ships lulululz. Jokes on you as i can't hotdrop, namely as ccp's netcode wont allow it Orly? I don't have any issues with jumping my cap ships about or fighting in low sec in whatever ship I am currently piloting. Seems you are misplacing the target of the 'joke'. and all the carebears laughed Solo pvp and small gang stuff is fine for lag, and i have no problem with that, but scale it up to moderately sized fighting, and then epicly sized fighting, and where the node would not lag much at all a few months ago, **** locks up completely and people fail to load into systems after jumping in. Atlas turkey shoot, the system wasn't even that populated and they did not load and lost most of their fleet with 0 losses on the opposing side. CCP ruining my ~good fitez~ _______________________ Fix rockets in '09 =(
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.04.18 16:18:00 - [18] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Solo pvp and small gang stuff is fine for lag, and i have no problem with that, but scale it up to moderately sized fighting, and then epicly sized fighting, and where the node would not lag much at all a few months ago, ** locks up completely and people fail to load into systems after jumping in. Atlas turkey shoot, the system wasn't even that populated and they did not load and lost most of their fleet with 0 losses on the opposing side. CCP ruining my ~good fitez~ Yes we are all aware of the issues with fleet fights atm and even the carebears are sympathetic. Just don't expect a warm welcome in this thread when you state that only hardcore 'I only log on to f1 f2 f3..' types are entitled to live in nullsec. Originally by:** CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone! Originally by: Amarr Supremacist Yeah, it(Jaguar) almost has cruiser level tank and gank!
Super Whopper I can Has Cheeseburger	Posted - 2010.04.18 16:19:00 - [19] NRDS will be restored in Providence. UK and the new sov holders have already agreed to NRDS and the ability of new players venturing into Providence to make a living. UK have always been NRDS, so that's nothing new, but they don't want all of Provi, as they're not big enough to hold so much space. The new alliances may not be very well versed when it comes to sov politcs, though I'm unaware of that, but I can say they aren't inexperienced PVPers and the Razor nub here trying to cause drama is failing hard. Also, there is another NRDS alliance in EVE, whose name escapes me, with space. CVA have stated emphatically that they will attemt to retake Provi when AAA's back is turned but we'll see how that goes, hopefully next time they'll fly BS and not T1 cruisers or frigates.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.18 17:10:00 - [20] we're not NRDS, but our stations are open for anyone who wants to go to our pocket. and that means pirate and carebear alike so bring your own protection --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.

Cole Y0unger	Posted - 2010.04.18 17:40:00 - [21] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. Wow this Holier than Thou spew made my brain hurt You should think more highly of yourself than this next time. (Turns off sarcasm)
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.04.18 18:57:00 - [22] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. 'Lil kiddies say the darnest things. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Mr Reeth	Posted - 2010.04.18 19:16:00 - [23] Being a NRDS alliance in 0.0 means **** all if you don't enforce it in your space. That's what CVA did. They enforced their policy and in so doing made enemies of every pirate and most null sec alliances in Eve. But they stuck to their guns and refused to bow down to the superpowers. They created something unique in Eve and it looks like their wonderful experiment is coming to an end. UK on the other hand was long ago a NRDS alliance. But they harbored pirates in their stations who would attack neighboring neutrals thus alienating them. When they were kicked out of Providence they started their "Burn Providence" campaign. So anybody in Providence was fair game to them, even if you were just passing through. Does that sound like NRDS? With UK back in Providence they will proudly say that they are NRDS, but will they enforce it? If AAA wants to pirate in Prov will UK stop them? I don't know but I doubt it.
Johnny Dexter	Posted - 2010.04.18 19:17:00 - [24] Originally by: Kirra Liu There are no renters at the moment as far as I am aware. Also as for them being "inexperienced", what a load of crap. I haven't been down Providence for a while but I have lived in and around that space for the most part of four years fighting on different sides. UK have plenty of experience as it has been their hunting ground for years and used to be their home years ago. -A- again have used that area as their hunting ground for a long time and have plenty of experience with defending their own home in Catch. Sodalitas XX have a lot of ex-Shadow of xXDEATHXx members I believe who are experienced with life in 0.0. Atlas, as much as I am not a fan they have years of experience of 0.0 warfare and Noir. make a living out of blowing people up Nonononono, I'm not talking about AAA or U'K, I mean the new alliances who have been installed into Providence: Chaos Theory, Opticon, Daisho Syndicate etc, they're really not much of a challenge compared to what people are used to fighting with. AAA are excellent PvPers ( if a little hotdrop happy ) and U'K are pretty OK too I guess if they'd cloak a little less :)
Cozmik R5 Minmatar Dock 94 Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2010.04.18 20:32:00 - [25] Sorry Johnny, no renters here. ____________________ Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Roastedpot Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.04.18 20:34:00 - [26] like Grimpak said a few posts before, neutrals are invited to Noir.'s pocket at any time. If Noir. is there, we will shoot you, but we go on contract marathons that last months at a time so chances are, we will not be there hardly at all. The space is in no way NRDS, it is completely NBSI UNLESS you take initiative and for some kind of organization of your own. There is also an alliance that your corp can join that is a subsidiary of Noir. and will be blue with us and i believe may be in the intel channel but i am not sure on that last bit. For more questions on that, contact Asuka Smith in game. for more information Alek's post and Hallan Turrek's shameless plug
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.04.18 20:40:00 - [27] Originally by: Super Whopper NRDS will be restored in Providence. UK and the new sov holders have already agreed to NRDS and the ability of new players venturing into Providence to make a living. Euhm unless i really missed something, i am 99% sure that is complete BS. Maybe 10% or so will be NRDS. Quote: UK have always been NRDS, so that's nothing new, They havent been NRDS in the space they operated for years. Quote: Also, there is another NRDS alliance in EVE, whose name escapes me, with space. Because it doesnt exist? (unless you mean SF/UK. There are also NRDS alliances in some other 0.0, but afaik they are all in npc space).
Super Whopper I can Has Cheeseburger	Posted - 2010.04.19 09:00:00 - [28] Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Super Whopper NRDS will be restored in Providence. UK and the new sov holders have already agreed to NRDS and the ability of new players venturing into Providence to make a living. Euhm unless i really missed something, i am 99% sure that is complete BS. Maybe 10% or so will be NRDS. This agreement has already been reached. Originally by: Furb Killer Quote: UK have always been NRDS, so that's nothing new, They havent been NRDS in the space they operated for years. I think I'll join the NC and set up a NRDS haven right in the middle of Deklein. Originally by: Furb Killer Quote: Also, there is another NRDS alliance in EVE, whose name escapes me, with space. Because it doesnt exist? (unless you mean SF/UK. There are also NRDS alliances in some other 0.0, but afaik they are all in npc space). Do they operate NRDS or not? Three fails, keep at it.
silentalleycat	Posted - 2010.04.19 09:17:00 - [29] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing About time NRDS died. Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. This is sad, before Providence started to burn, Alot of the large0.0 alliances complained about not enough people venture into 0.0space. One of the only places you as a 'carebear' could learn how to survive in 0.0 space without all the stupid politics was in providence under CVA and their NRDS policy Now that place got overrun by those same alliances, who keep comlaining about not enough people venturing into 0.0space Sad indeed
Marlona Sky D00M. RED.OverLord	Posted - 2010.04.19 09:18:00 - [30] Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing Carebears shouldnt be in null sec unless you earn it. /me tosses TheLordofAllandNothing a mirror "I am going to send you a nice fruit basket. I'm gonna miss him!" +1 Internetz point to whoever can tell me what actor and movie the above quote is from.



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