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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.07.10 23:36:00 -
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The new UI is very easy to understand and one can indeed adapt to it. Does not mean it's a slow, real estate wasting piece of turd.
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Suqq Madiq
Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2012.07.10 23:51:00 -
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Hmm, I guess the tens of thousands of EVE subscribers (read: the majority) who have managed to figure out how to use the new inventory and thus aren't spewing forth massive amounts of tears have it all wrong, and the few dozen people (read: the minority) who are still hurfblurfing their way through another one of these wholly original threads must have it all right.
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Mr Kidd wrote:Charlie Sheen can say "winning" however often he likes. But we all know that whatever the reason for saying it, it's still full of fail.
Sheen hasn't used the word "winning" in a sentence since months before the Unified Inventory was released. If you're going to use outdated memes to support your outdated whines, at least try to keep them somewhat up-to-date and/or relevant.
Also, adapt or die? Or, I guess in your case, adapt or cry? |
WonkySplitDemon
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.07.11 00:16:00 -
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I agree with the fella who said its not adapting, so much as COPING with the new UI. It's without a doubt worse than the old system, which had lots of windows but was more simple. It is rather annoying that clicking on inventory button brings up the active ships cargo bay. Why don't they just fix this?? The way it worked before was fine. |
ACE McFACE
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
753
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Posted - 2012.07.11 01:42:00 -
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Works fine for me, I like it. I have also never experienced it opening or closing on undock or jumping
I just gotta go fast! |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
1189
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Posted - 2012.07.11 06:54:00 -
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I have none of the problems the OP has.
You're doing it wrong.
The Drake is a Lie |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
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Posted - 2012.07.11 07:21:00 -
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I support the OP 100%. It's such a pain to achieve simple things now. Maintaining POS hangars has become a tedious task. Please give us an option to always open a new window without hold shift. And of course keep the sidebar expanded at all times.
Or a better solution: Restore the old window mechanics!
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Eternus8lux8lucis
New Eden Regimental Marines
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
108
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Posted - 2012.07.11 07:46:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Apostate Lucius wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:CCP alts detected. Hardly, just people who quickly adapted and utilized what they were given with a minimum of muss and fuss. Sure, I thought it was clunky for the first ten minutes, then I figured it out and resumed playing my game. I'm kind of sad that they changed a classic feature that probably didn't need to be changed, but it's not game-breaking by any stretch of the imagination. It is what it is, nothing more, nothing less. That's fine. If you want to quickly adapt to having a marginally working utility fine. Others appear not to. I support them because I don't like having to open a can in space in a separate by first opening it to a previously open UI by default because there's just no other way to do it, expanding the UI which I've made smaller for another purpose in order to scroll down to find it just so I can open it up in it's own window to then select what I had open previous and resizing it back for the use it was sized to begin with. That's not adaptation my friend. That's coping.
Holy **** that right there is exactly right. Couldnt have said it better. And God help if you try to change from working at a pos to going to loot and run some anoms or missions. As everytime you change what your doing you have to change and resize everything.
I hate as I have windows for everything I do, its a workspace like a desk at work. Its useful, not pretty. And this piece of **** sucks and forever will. And Ill hate it forever as long as it exists in this game.
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Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians
The Aurora Shadow
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Posted - 2012.07.11 07:57:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:
Charlie Sheen can say "winning" however often he likes. But we all know that whatever the reason for saying it, it's still full of fail.
Confirming that CCP Sreegs is Charlie Sheen.
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Betrinna Cantis
20
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Posted - 2012.07.11 08:22:00 -
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Still needs a back button...
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You may have mistaken me for someone who cares..... |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
564
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Posted - 2012.07.11 10:37:00 -
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The new inventory does suck. The only redeeming feature from it is CCP now has an icelandic version of whack-a-mole.
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Elena Melkan
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.07.11 10:56:00 -
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Ashera Yune wrote:The unified inventory is annoying. It is obstructive, unintuitive, and more time consuming to use.
The unified window is especially an annoyance when you deal with poses, corp hangars, and ships with fuel bay, ship main bay, corp hangar, etc like I do.
Those who say its great knows nothing until they try flying an orca or a pos.
You know you can open new windows with shift + click now, do you? I do POS managing myself and figuring out this made the job much easier.
Even though this new inventory is not entirely horrible, the older one was still better, there I agree. You had wider options on how you position your windows and once you did it, you could just continue based on a routine. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
13
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Posted - 2012.07.11 11:46:00 -
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Elena Melkan wrote:You know you can open new windows with shift + click now, do you?
only to find them going back into the main inventory window every once in a while, and then you have to shift+click on the ship again(in the inv menu) to open it separately again.
i'll use this opportunity to say:
what happened to RightClick > Open Drone Bay?! *rage* |
baltec1
Bat Country
1628
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:08:00 -
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Just how bad are you people?
The new UI has made everything I do much simpler and quicker. |
Benjamin Eastwood
Oshaima Exports
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:18:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
Way to be dumber than a one armed half blind monkey.
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
706
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:19:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
The new UI has made everything I do much simpler and quicker.
What is it that you do?
I have to wonder if you play the game. Or if your play style is confined to tasks well suited for the UI. Because frankly having the UI take up 70% of my screen real estate as to fulfill it's stated goal as convenient isn't acceptable 90% of the time I need to utilize inventories.
Please, tell us the tasks you find it convenient.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Alayna Le'line
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:20:00 -
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Just chiming in to say I agree with the OP. I manage to cope with the new system, but it's annoying.
It doesn't seem to remember window layout. It always forgets the column view I picked and the sorting order. Focus seems glued to whatever ship you had active when you open the thing expanding the ships "tree" when switching ships at it (I dunno how many ships you have in your station, but it's damn annoying my station containers that I DO want to see drop off the bottom), and of course it always opens the ship inventory instead of the (much more useful) hangar.
It also seems to only open a single window when you dock instead of the setup of 3 inventory windows I used before (ship inventory, hangar and my ships)
Also let me just say that there is a reason most file managers have stopped using tree representations of the filesystem by default. And contrary to the EVE inventory filesystems ARE actual trees. The EVE inventory is moving in the direction everybody else is moving away from. |
Otrebla Utrigas
Iberians
Iberians.
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:24:00 -
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Seriously guys, don't you know how to manage tree inventories? It is faster, cleaner and way more optimal than lots and lots of windows with click and drag.
Welcome to the future (well, welcome to the present more or less) |
Alayna Le'line
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:26:00 -
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Otrebla Utrigas wrote:Seriously guys, don't you know how to manage tree inventories? It is faster, cleaner and way more optimal than lots and lots of windows with click and drag.
Welcome to the future (well, welcome to the present more or less)
Going to quote myself from a few minutes ago:
Alayna Le'line wrote:Also let me just say that there is a reason most file managers have stopped using tree representations of the filesystem by default. And contrary to the EVE inventory filesystems ARE actual trees. The EVE inventory is moving in the direction everybody else is moving away from.
Welcome to the past. |
March rabbit
R.I.P. Legion
Red Alliance
213
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Posted - 2012.07.11 12:29:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:... useless stuff...
congratulations! You have just won award "100500th whiner!"
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
707
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:00:00 -
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Otrebla Utrigas wrote:Seriously guys, don't you know how to manage tree inventories? It is faster, cleaner and way more optimal than lots and lots of windows with click and drag.
Welcome to the future (well, welcome to the present more or less)
Again, I ask, how is it you're utilizing the inventory, for what tasks?
I utilize Windows Explorer quite adeptly. But, then again I don't use it for every little thing especially when an origin and destination are staring me in the face already.
However, to expound on the Windows Explorer example, when I open a single file container it at least has the sense to open in its own window and not revert to some default location/window which is completely unsuitable for simple tasks.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1144
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:44:00 -
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BearJews wrote:it's not bad...get over it already.
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:45:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:I utilize Windows Explorer quite adeptly.
Thank you for helping us come to the conclusion that your opinion in this case matters little
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny |
Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.07.11 13:55:00 -
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Its a pile of cr*p, still
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
baltec1
Bat Country
1628
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:01:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:baltec1 wrote:
The new UI has made everything I do much simpler and quicker.
What is it that you do? I have to wonder if you play the game. Or if your play style is confined to tasks well suited for the UI. Because frankly having the UI take up 70% of my screen real estate as to fulfill it's stated goal as convenient isn't acceptable 90% of the time I need to utilize inventories. Please, tell us the tasks you find it convenient.
Large scale POS research and manufacturing along with some mining. |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
346
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:02:00 -
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Sed it before and i will say it again in regards to the hold shift button window thing:
add a toggle in the menu that flips the hold shift function, so that eve assumes shift is always pressed when clicking on bays cargo's and ships hangers
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Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
801
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:05:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Sed it before and i will say it again in regards to the hold shift button window thing:
add a toggle in the menu that flips the hold shift function, so that eve assumes shift is always pressed when clicking on bays cargo's and ships hangers
Actually, that would be a very desirable feature to the new UI which I have come to love. Have you suggested this in the ideas forum? It really is a good thing and I imagine not difficult to implement.
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
711
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:13:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:baltec1 wrote:
The new UI has made everything I do much simpler and quicker.
What is it that you do? I have to wonder if you play the game. Or if your play style is confined to tasks well suited for the UI. Because frankly having the UI take up 70% of my screen real estate as to fulfill it's stated goal as convenient isn't acceptable 90% of the time I need to utilize inventories. Please, tell us the tasks you find it convenient. Large scale POS research and manufacturing along with some mining.
That would be why you like it. The UI is good for macro level management. But for frequent smaller takes it's a PITA.
We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
WonkySplitDemon
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:15:00 -
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Otrebla Utrigas wrote:Seriously guys, don't you know how to manage tree inventories? It is faster, cleaner and way more optimal than lots and lots of windows with click and drag.
Welcome to the future (well, welcome to the present more or less)
Thats just it though, the inventory system in EvE is not a tree system, so why have CCP tried to implement one?
The old inventory system worked fine, it wasn't exactly pretty or intuitive, but it did what it said on the tin. There were no suprises or guesswork involved. 
Edit:
I can see from a macro level perspective moving large amounts of items around and doing large scale operations such as manufacturing why the new system would be easier to use than the old "Windows Everywhere TM" one, for sure. However, for smaller scale stuff like looting, mining etc... I just think the old system was better. So for the majority of players in reality we just have to learn to COPE with the new UI. |
adam smash
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:20:00 -
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the UI sucks... Notice how everyone who likes it aint been in the game long enough to know wtf they are doing? lol |
Bloutok
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
4
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Posted - 2012.07.11 14:22:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:CCP alts detected.
Troll detected. |
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