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Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:28:00 - [1] Because our investigation has been corroborated by reports of an incident in the Frarn System, we have decided to move ahead and publish our initial findings regarding the Ducia Foundry Attack in W-space. A Sansha fleet of twenty Nightmare-class battleships was detected moving through X-7OMU, Sisters of EVE HQ, in Pure Blind, exiting a V911 wormhole. The origin system was J235456, the apparent location of the Ducia Foundry system. Yesterday, the Synenose Accord received the CONCORD Assembly Inner Circle intel report regarding this incursion, from a confidential source. Report Additionally, there was a detailed report on increased Sansha's nation communications in nullsec. Increased Sansha's nation activity This seems to now be related to what appears to be a Sansha invasion of the Frarn system, in Heimatar. Details regarding this incursion are scarce, and few that were at the scene have been able to testify to the current tactical situation there. Clearly, the Nation is on the move. We will post updates as the situation warrants.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:35:00 - [2] Star Fraction intelligence has received a corroborated report of a Sansha's Nation invasion force entering Renyn system in Essence region using a wormhole. Forces included Nightmare-class battleships and many other Nation vessels. Unconfirmed estimates put the Nation fleet at 100 strong. Federation Navy and CONCORD forces are confirmed as having responded with force to the incursion. We await further intelligence but share this confirmed data given the serious indications that a widespread Sansha's Nation invasion of core systems is underway utilising W-space conduits. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:46:00 - [3] We are unable to independently verify this intelligence, Cosmo, please cite your source. We're currently in-system, and you are not.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.11 19:51:00 - [4] Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 11/05/2010 19:53:01 The following was passed to me by a Star Fraction intelligence asset with eye-witness testimony, I hope it will be acceptable varification. Originally by: "excerpt from combat records" 2010.05.11 18:15 Victim: Slave 32152 Corp: True Power Alliance: None Faction: NONE Destroyed: Nightmare System: Renyn Security: 0.9 Damage Taken: 207148 Involved parties: Name: Roden Police Major / Federation Customs Damage Done: 171735 There are also reports of an incursion in Kaaputenen system in The Citadel at approx. 16:00 EST which we have not as yet confirmed. I note that the pattern of incursions, if confirmed, suggests a Sansha's Nation invasion in an Amarr Empire system may be imminent. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:00:00 - [5] Edited by: Julianus Soter on 11/05/2010 20:04:34 Reports of an engagement occured at 1915 YST in Ashab, Cosmopolite. Quote: 2010.05.11 19:18 Victim: Ahmur Vubina Corp: True Power Alliance: None Faction: NONE Destroyed: Nightmare System: Ashab Security: 0.9 Damage Taken: 61837 Involved parties: Name: Amarr Surveillance General Major / Amarr Civil Service Damage Done: 31971 Surveillance data now available of the scene of the invasion: image
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:10:00 - [6] Disturbing news indeed. I thank you for making available the Inner Circle report, it is typical of CONCORD that this vital data emerges only through a leak. However, all should focus immediately on defeating the aggressive ambitions of a clearly revitalized and emboldened Sansha's Nation. The insanity that perverted Sansha's dream and turned it into a nightmare cannot be allowed to achieve a grip on New Eden. The posthuman era will not be achieved by a technological tyranny of a few minds over violently enthralled masses. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Sofia Roseburn Caldari Verdant Inquiries Asomat Drive Yards	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:16:00 - [7] Originally by: The Cosmopolite Disturbing news indeed. I thank you for making available the Inner Circle report, it is typical of CONCORD that this vital data emerges only through a leak. However, all should focus immediately on defeating the aggressive ambitions of a clearly revitalized and emboldened Sansha's Nation. The insanity that perverted Sansha's dream and turned it into a nightmare cannot be allowed to achieve a grip on New Eden. The posthuman era will not be achieved by a technological tyranny of a few minds over violently enthralled masses. The Cosmopolite Oh I don't know. I suppose one could see the attraction of being an overlord. ---
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:22:00 - [8] I wonder if a Sansha invasion might be considered "an appetite of nothing expanding over the world."
Ghost Hunter Kinetic Vector	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:34:00 - [9] Most pleasing indeed. ______ True Slave Foundations Overseer The Seven Events of the Apocalypse The fourth event is described by Macaper as ôthe appetite of nothing expands over the worldö;
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:37:00 - [10] Originally by: Kor Shivat I wonder if a Sansha invasion might be considered "an appetite of nothing expanding over the world." How do you figure the analogy fits?

Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.11 20:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Aynen Originally by: Kor Shivat I wonder if a Sansha invasion might be considered "an appetite of nothing expanding over the world." How do you figure the analogy fits? I can't quite make it fit. Round hole, square peg, but... the dialog above does give an impression of "expanding over the world." So the real challenge is getting "appetite of nothing" to fit with the Sansha. In the fiction forum, I suggested that this could conceivably be a description of their desire to reduce humanity to a state of mindless slavery, which might in turn be "nothingness." It might also be conceivable to interpret their status as "zombies" as being "without an appetite." Is there any piece of intelligence on the Sansha which suggests they do not eat?
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.11 21:07:00 - [12] An extremely disturbing pattern to these incursions is emerging but I believe the Synenose Accord is collating all data and will give a full analysis. It is premature to speculate but there appears to be some significance to the planets at which the incursions are taking place. Of the few I have surveyed, all are temperate and populated. The Nation's purpose, whether simple invasion or something altogether more sinister, may be guessed at but must certainly be frustrated. Events are still unfolding and I look forward to the conclusions of the Accord's analysis team. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.11 21:29:00 - [13] Confirmed reports of an incursion into Caldari State sovereign space in the system Urlen. Threat was neutralized by a loose coalition of Capsuleers whilst Concord and State forces "helped". Additionally first hand combat data confirms the Lead ship as being Capusleer driven. Quote: 2010.05.11 21:00:00 Victim: Slave 32152 Corp: True Power Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Capsule System: Urlen Security: 1.0 Damage Taken: 123 Involved parties: Name: Heartstone (laid the final blow) Security: 3.6 Corp: Jericho Fraction Alliance: The Star Fraction Faction: NONE Ship: Jaguar Weapon: 200mm AutoCannon II Damage Done: 123 Name: Braincandy Security: 4.0 Corp: Xenophon Core Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Ship: Ishtar Weapon: Light Neutron Blaster II Damage Done: 0 Name: ZeroInterests Security: 3.6 Corp: Heaven's Avatars Alliance: Without Remorse. Faction: NONE Ship: Hawk Weapon: Warp Scrambler I Damage Done: 0 I also have in my possession the Corpse of the Slave Capsuleer and it will be studied in Star Fraction facilities and any records of such studies will be available to interested parties. Heartstone. ---
Kasuko Merin	Posted - 2010.05.11 21:29:00 - [14] Edited by: Kasuko Merin on 11/05/2010 21:30:13 These files were captured during the incursion in State space. Uploaded at the request of General Soter: http://eve-files.com/dl/222115 http://eve-files.com/dl/222116 http://eve-files.com/dl/222117 http://eve-files.com/dl/222118 http://eve-files.com/dl/222119 http://eve-files.com/dl/222120 http://eve-files.com/dl/222121 http://eve-files.com/dl/222122 http://eve-files.com/dl/222123 And the local comm log: http://eve-files.com/dl/222124 Update: All files were compressed and uploaded to this address: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RGVA0JNK
Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Caldari Tietokone-Uirusu	Posted - 2010.05.11 21:41:00 - [15] Originally by: The Cosmopolite An extremely disturbing pattern to these incursions is emerging but I believe the Synenose Accord is collating all data and will give a full analysis. It is premature to speculate but there appears to be some significance to the planets at which the incursions are taking place. Of the few I have surveyed, all are temperate and populated. The Nation's purpose, whether simple invasion or something altogether more sinister, may be guessed at but must certainly be frustrated. Events are still unfolding and I look forward to the conclusions of the Accord's analysis team. The Cosmopolite Is the answer not obvious?
Justin Vallar	Posted - 2010.05.11 21:52:00 - [16] It is clear that the Sansha are targeting major population centers in empire space. This follows on the heels of the Ducia Foundry attack, which involved the violent abduction of the entire station's crew. It is clearly an attempt to acquire new True Slaves, and assemble some kind of force. What the true objective is, when these attacks are rapidly rebuffed is unknown. Mr. Soter has suggested that this might be a strategic testing of response times and defenses in highsec, before a frontal assault on a primary target at some later time. We will be watching the situation closely.
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:00:00 - [17] Edited by: Aynen on 11/05/2010 22:00:33 Originally by: Justin Vallar Mr. Soter has suggested that this might be a strategic testing of response times and defenses in highsec, before a frontal assault on a primary target at some later time. We will be watching the situation closely. This seems strategically unsound to me. If you have the element of surprise, you don't waste it on a test, you exploit it for all it's worth. Also, if you look at the slave numbers in the data shown in this thread, it numbers in the 30.000, which seems relatively small. This would include all their workforce aswell as their fleet. I think this 'harvesting op' was to the best of their current abilities. But they seem likely to be growing in numbers.
Demetri Slavic Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:00:00 - [18] Edited by: Demetri Slavic on 11/05/2010 22:00:56 More DED data has been leaked
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Justin Vallar It is clearly an attempt to acquire new True Slaves, and assemble some kind of force. What the true objective is, when these attacks are rapidly rebuffed is unknown. Mr. Soter has suggested that this might be a strategic testing of response times and defenses in highsec, before a frontal assault on a primary target at some later time. We will be watching the situation closely. I shall put forward the wild assertion that the Sansha are in part being manipulated by another power, one which has as its goal the opening of the EVE Gate and the destruction of our world. How terribly exciting!
Sofia Roseburn Caldari Verdant Inquiries Asomat Drive Yards	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:13:00 - [20] Originally by: Kor Shivat I shall put forward the wild assertion that the Sansha are in part being manipulated by another power, one which has as its goal the opening of the EVE Gate and the destruction of our world. How terribly exciting! You should write for the Amarr Certified News. ---

Justin Vallar	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:19:00 - [21] Curious development I suggest you tamp down your leaks, CONCORD. The threat of Sansha Nation utilization of w-space wormholes to infiltrate Empire Space and various factions is a danger that is posed to all mankind. We will continue our investigation of this incident, with or without Synenose being in the Assembly's good graces.
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:25:00 - [22] Originally by: Sofia Roseburn Originally by: Kor Shivat I shall put forward the wild assertion that the Sansha are in part being manipulated by another power, one which has as its goal the opening of the EVE Gate and the destruction of our world. How terribly exciting! You should write for the Amarr Certified News. Then I would be assassinated by... oh, wait, it's the Gallente who kill members of the press! I do admit that, despite my heritage, I was moved by A.C.N.'s coverage of Jamyl getting her hat. Speaking of that Sword of the Righteous, I wonder if she will have anything to say on these developments.
Sofia Roseburn Caldari Verdant Inquiries Asomat Drive Yards	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:26:00 - [23] A brief summary then. Sansha's Nation have staged system incursions on six occasions today, all using wormholes as their primary mode of entrance. The systems attacked so far are: - Eystur - Frarn - Ashab - Renyn - Kaaputenen - Urlen All attacks have been spearheaded by capsuleers piloting Nightmare class battleships under the True Power corporation affiliation. Combat composition appears to be a capsuleer controller accompanied by several "slaves". Given the Nation's history with mind controlling implants, we can only assume that the capsuleers have been captured and forcefully indoctrinated into the Nation. In addition to the capsuleer detachments, all attacks have seen 30+ common Nation remnants of mixed tonnage; ranging from Nightmares, to Phantasms and Succubi with varying degrees of cognitive capability and combat effectiveness. Targets in all cases have been temperate planets. ---
Teinyhr Minmatar Nor'akho Matar	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:31:00 - [24] Being one of the pilots present at Frarn, seemingly the first of many systems attacked, here's a transcription from my flight recorder, most of the useless banter of miscellaneous status reports have been removed to make it shorter. Reimina Muar is apparently a registered CONCORD pilot from what I gleamed from my logs, the employers of other pilots are uncertain. Without further adue, however: [17:14:38 ] Silonneri Balginia > Wormhole anomaly spotted near planet IV. Requesting permission to investigate. [17:14:56 ] Reimina Muar > CONCORD would prefer not to be involved in scientific endeavors indigenous to local systems. Proceed at your leisure. [17:15:12 ] Silonneri Balginia > Red Alert! Sansha's Nation ships spotted around anomaly! Requesting capsuleer assistance. Repeat: Requesting capsuleer assistance at planet IV! [17:16:21] Reimina Muar > Attention all capsuleers: Engaging Sansha forces in this system will not affect your security status. Your assistance in this encounter would be greatly appreciated by local defense forces. [17:16:47 ] Silonneri Balginia > There's a wormhole spotted near planet IV in system [17:16:56 ] Silonneri Balginia > I have no idea why it's so close to that planet [17:17:12 ] Slave 32152 > We are the voice of Nation. We are the voice of unity. [17:17:20 ] Reimina Muar > Any hostile action taken against CONCORD, national defense forces, or other capsuleers will be dealt with according to standard procedure. [17:17:42 ] Silonneri Balginia > Come on, pilots! Show them the bravery of the Minmatar! [17:17:45 ] Reimina Muar > SanshaÆs Nation stands in violation of every sovereign nationÆs laws and will be attacked on sight by all CONCORD and willing capsuleer forces. [17:19:46 ] Reimina Muar > To all capsuleers in this system: The use of deadly force against SanshaÆs Nation vessels is authorized at this time. [17:21:14 ] Silonneri Balginia > What the hell are these brainless bastards doing here? [17:21:55 ] Silonneri Balginia > I think they're coming in through that wormhole [17:22:06 ] Reimina Muar > Confirm, Caldari Navy, does the wormhole exhibit two-way connectivity? [17:22:14 ] Silonneri Balginia > For the glory of the Republic! [17:22:47 ] Slave 32152 > Nation will not tolerate resistance. [17:23:28 ] Silonneri Balginia > Watch out for more reinforcements. I don't think this is the last of them [17:23:40 ] Silonneri Balginia > By the Elders - that's a lot of Nightmares [17:24:03 ] Reimina Muar > Capsuleers; Weapons free, weapons free, engage! Planet 4 is under attack by Sansha forces! [17:24:37 ] Silonneri Balginia > I can't take them on my own here, mates. I need my fellow Republic pilots to push them back! [17:25:24 ] Silonneri Balginia > We have to protect this system [17:26:03 ] Silonneri Balginia > I'm sending probes through that wormhole. Something's different here... [17:26:47 ] Reimina Muar > Any confirmed Sansha kills will be rewarded per the bounty system, fully endorsed by CONCORD. [17:27:18 ] Silonneri Balginia > These brainless bastards are giving us quite the fight [17:27:40 ] Slave 32152 > Capsuleers are weak. Heirs ot a mistake. We are the correction. [17:27:53 ] Reimina Muar > Reinforcements inbound! Engage immediately! [17:29:18 ] Silonneri Balginia > My probes aren't responding. I think I lost them in that wormhole [17:29:36 ] Reimina Muar > Any hostile action taken against CONCORD, national defense forces, or other capsuleers will be dealt with according to standard procedure. [17:29:55 ] Derek Beauregard > they stand no chance! [17:30:10 ] Slave 32152 > The empire of slaves will be Slaves once more. [17:30:48 ] Slave 32152 > Nation has arrived. [17:30:59 ] Reimina Muar > Primary target is the True Slave! [17:31:00 ] Silonneri Balginia > We're pushing them back, boys! Target Slave 32152! [17:32:04 ] Slave 32152 > You are weak. Nation will rise. (...To Be Continued shortly) ------------------- This is Sig. Launch every Sig. For Great Justice.
Teinyhr Minmatar Nor'akho Matar	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:36:00 - [25] Edited by: Teinyhr on 11/05/2010 22:36:50 [17:32:34 ] Silonneri Balginia > Success! Well done, boys! [17:32:51 ] Silonneri Balginia > You've brought honor to the tribes! [17:32:52 ] Reimina Muar > CONCORD appreciates all capsuleer efforts in this engagement. [17:33:17 ] Silonneri Balginia > They're pushed back. Loot those bastards, boys! [17:33:36 ] Silonneri Balginia > I think the wormhole's about to close [17:33:47 ] Silonneri Balginia > Everybody watch out [17:34:07 ] Silonneri Balginia > Wormhole collapse confirmed. [17:35:12 ] Silonneri Balginia > I have to report this to my superiors. Capsuleers: Stay and clean up. ---- There were numerous Sansha Battleships, and supporting fleet from frigates to battlecruisers present. Rough estimates I can give were 20 to 30 battleships all in all, possibly hundreds of smaller vessels. However, pilots in the system soon responded to pleas of assistance and made short work of the invading fleet with apparently no losses. Stand proud Minmatar. ~~Ayuun Korras, Venge Captain of the Republic Militia. ------------------- This is Sig. Launch every Sig. For Great Justice.

Koja Tsutariba Caldari Caldari Navy	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:42:00 - [26] Originally by: Justin Vallar We will continue our investigation of this incident, with or without Synenose being in the Assembly's good graces. Today I bore witness to a scene of such horror that I find myself compelled to come here and support the continued dissemination of these so-called "classified" reports. CONCORD has no right to hide this from the Caldari people, nor the citizens of other nations, all four of which I understand have been affected. As a mere Captain amongst Capsuleers it is true that I do not have permission to be here or say these things, but after what I have seen today I simply do not care any longer. If, by this act, I have forfeited my post in the Navy, then so be it. People must know the truth. We must prepare for the worst based on the best available intelligence. I urge my peers in CONCORD to rethink their current strategy. Was it not your own people I fought beside today? Was it not the same CONCORD hiding the truth from capsuleers as the one that asked for their assistance? A policy of secrecy here is nothing short of madness. Koja Tsutariba, CNS Sparrow. Out.

Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Koja Tsutariba Originally by: Justin Vallar We will continue our investigation of this incident, with or without Synenose being in the Assembly's good graces. Today I bore witness to a scene of such horror that I find myself compelled to come here and support the continued dissemination of these so-called "classified" reports. CONCORD has no right to hide this from the Caldari people, nor the citizens of other nations, all four of which I understand have been affected. Fine words and a good sentiment. If you find yourself in need of a job after this talk to me. Heartstone. ---
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:51:00 - [28] Mixed Metaphor stands ready to devote any and all available resources to repel this threat. The foul abominations of Sansha's Nation pose a danger to all humanity. -----
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:54:00 - [29] Edited by: Julianus Soter on 11/05/2010 22:56:11 It is totally unacceptable that CONCORD has sought to censure myself and Synenose Accord employees for revealing critical information that might have helped to save lives. It is the purpose of CONCORD to serve the Empires, and to ensure peace. How is allowing the Nation invade the highest security systems in existence, wage a violent battle above populated worlds, fulfilling CONCORD's charter? I demand an immediate explanation from Vieve Creston, who has apparently targeted me for attempting to bring this matter to light at a moment of intense crisis. Her involvement has been implicated here.
Sofia Roseburn Caldari Verdant Inquiries Asomat Drive Yards	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:58:00 - [30] Edited by: Sofia Roseburn on 11/05/2010 22:59:15 The report has been updated to include the occurance timeline. ---

Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.11 22:58:00 - [31] Originally by: Andreus LeHane Mixed Metaphor stands ready to devote any and all available resources to repel this threat. The foul abominations of Sansha's Nation pose a danger to all humanity. I think it is safe to say that most Capulseers will stand against this threat until the chance to strike back at the heart of this plague presents itself. During such times humanity, trans-humanity, capsuleers or whatever else you wish to call us will stand together united in a way never seen before. The Nation has pushed too far with these incursions. Heartstone. ---
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.05.11 23:03:00 - [32] I thought it important to clarify, because this... this is personal. -----
Corporate Thief Caldari Code Triage	Posted - 2010.05.11 23:04:00 - [33] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Andreus LeHane Mixed Metaphor stands ready to devote any and all available resources to repel this threat. The foul abominations of Sansha's Nation pose a danger to all humanity. I think it is safe to say that most Capulseers will stand against this threat until the chance to strike back at the heart of this plague presents itself. During such times humanity, trans-humanity, capsuleers or whatever else you wish to call us will stand together united in a way never seen before. The Nation has pushed too far with these incursions. Heartstone. Truer words never spoken. Code Triage also pledges any and all of its limited effective resources to this cause. Our Operatives are standing by and will await orders from those knowledgeable on the situation. CT
Pankas Carter Photon Technologies Obsidian Order.	Posted - 2010.05.11 23:06:00 - [34] All of your ISHAEKA-.pdf files are not rendering properly. See Here Are you using a proper true-type font? Bitmap fonts fail hard. -- (start sig) -- Quote:* A great city is not to be confounded with a populous one. - Aristotle
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.05.11 23:16:00 - [35] Write a complaint to CONCORD. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Online Lorebook
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.11 23:18:00 - [36] Originally by: Teinyhr [17:26:03 ] Silonneri Balginia > I'm sending probes through that wormhole. Something's different here... [17:29:18 ] Silonneri Balginia > My probes aren't responding. I think I lost them in that wormhole These lines from Teinyhr's logs suggest the other side of the wormhole was"unusual" even for such anomalies. I wonder if there were similar attempts made by responders in other systems, and if those responders had additional insight into what might have been "different."
Silver Night Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.11 23:35:00 - [37] Edited by: Silver Night on 11/05/2010 23:39:20 Edited by: Silver Night on 11/05/2010 23:38:40 Originally by: Justin Vallar It is clear that the Sansha are targeting major population centers in empire space. This follows on the heels of the Ducia Foundry attack, which involved the violent abduction of the entire station's crew. It is clearly an attempt to acquire new True Slaves, and assemble some kind of force. What the true objective is, when these attacks are rapidly rebuffed is unknown. Mr. Soter has suggested that this might be a strategic testing of response times and defenses in highsec, before a frontal assault on a primary target at some later time. We will be watching the situation closely. That is far from clear. Your own statement is also condradictory: Either they knew that the attacks would be rebuffed, and they are part of some other plan, or they were attempting to take people. It can't be both, because either this group from the Nation knew that the attacks would be so abortive, or they didn't. I would say that at this point, things are far from clear. There is nothing but a strong coincidence at this point that even links these incursions to habitable worlds. It may be some delusional splinter group that lacked the foresight to realize they would be slaughtered, as an example. Those reports suggest that this activity and increased communications were largely contained in the Gallente Quarter. Small numbers, worm holes that may or may not have been created, and if they were may or may not have targeted specific worlds. No clear goals and briefly ended incursions. It adds up to very little, so far. Hopefully more will become clear in days to come. Now is hardly the time for melodramatic gestures and statements. It is a time to look at the information that is available and try to understand. The truth is that this incursion is no different from many others aside from the use of wormholes. If Ducia or the Nation can develop the technology, others can as well. If anything, we should be thankful that it's first use was so monumentally ineffectual. -------------- Silver's Fiction
Grr Amarr Epitoth Fleet Yards Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:06:00 - [38] Edited by: Grr on 12/05/2010 00:06:26 Originally by: Koja Tsutariba Originally by: Justin Vallar We will continue our investigation of this incident, with or without Synenose being in the Assembly's good graces. Today I bore witness to a scene of such horror that I find myself compelled to come here and support the continued dissemination of these so-called "classified" reports. CONCORD has no right to hide this from the Caldari people, nor the citizens of other nations, all four of which I understand have been affected. As a mere Captain amongst Capsuleers it is true that I do not have permission to be here or say these things, but after what I have seen today I simply do not care any longer. If, by this act, I have forfeited my post in the Navy, then so be it. People must know the truth. We must prepare for the worst based on the best available intelligence. I urge my peers in CONCORD to rethink their current strategy. Was it not your own people I fought beside today? Was it not the same CONCORD hiding the truth from capsuleers as the one that asked for their assistance? A policy of secrecy here is nothing short of madness. Koja Tsutariba, CNS Sparrow. Out. I can understand why concord would want to keep this intel classified. It's a fact that the free movement of information like this can cause panic and potentially do more harm than good. This time however was perhaps the exception to the rule. Either way this Sansha threat does not seem to be picky about its targets as all Empires have suffered attacks. I suggest we continue to pool our intel for now and make no rash decisions or theories based on a few incidents.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:10:00 - [39] Originally by: Silver Night It is a time to look at the information that is available and try to understand. Very well, Silver, here's a datum for us to look at: The Nation has capsuleers. Not IzzyChan, not Kostantin, not you-- nobody whose mind and identity has been left even partially intact, nobody who is allowed to have name, or even a callsign like "Ghost Hunter." True slaves. Designation: "Slave," and a serial number. Let's just dwell on that for a minute. The weakness of the capsuleers as a class and as a tool has always been our unpredictability, our fractiousness-- our abundance, maybe overabundance, of freedom. We often do the empires' bidding, or the pirate factions', but for the most part we remain very much our own creatures, free to walk away on a whim. Nation capsuleers, whether they represent the whole blasted nation or just a "fragment," as you would have it, have no such problem. While we serve ourselves first and foremost, while we exercise independent judgment constantly, a true slave can do no such thing. This means one of two things: either the Nation has finished its work on the likes of Kostantin and IzzyChan and has started processing abducted capsuleers in a standardized fashion, or it has started training its own. Now, let's dwell on that for a moment. If the Nation is training its own capsuleers, if it is running an "academy" of sorts, that means it has the capability to create practically unlimited quantities of, basically, us, given sufficient time-- "us" with ensured loyalty and free access to Nightmare-class battleships, among, I'm sure, others: quasi-immortal engines of focused destruction. We have spoken of the Nation and of your ideals, Silver-- your hopes that the Nation could be salvaged, restored to something more than a lethal remnant. I was willing to give you space to think, work, and influence, but given the resources at play I think we're done. You seemed genuinely disturbed at the notion that you might be convincing everyone that a genuine monster was actually harmless, so I'm willing to give you this much chance: The deadly results are in. It appears you were unambiguously wrong, and we have a true threat on our hands. Are you willing to go down in history as a blind fool? Or perhaps an implanted victim? Or are you willing to open your eyes and see? The patient is dead, Doctor. I know you had hope, and I admired you for that, but it's time to put down your laser scalpel and purge the area by fire before the disease you were trying to cure gets past the point where we can stop it.

Rallence Ameteves Gallente True Power	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:40:00 - [40] It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact.


Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:49:00 - [41] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. Yes, because our despair would be so very productive for you. That might very well be the end of the story, right there. Therefore....
Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Caldari Tietokone-Uirusu	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:49:00 - [42] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. I was wondering when it was going to happen. Nation will not succeed. You are not the correction. You are a further mistake. A mistake made by those who did not understand what they had. They passed it on and now, the mistake is self replicating. Recursion with a corrupt purpose. You are unity. You are stagnation. Stagnation is death. Your unity is the end of everything. Our unity will burn the corruption away. So shall it be every time you rise. Accept this simple fact and you shall be free.
Ghost Hunter Kinetic Vector	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:49:00 - [43] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. How shall I prove myself to you and to Master Sansha, my lord? ______ True Slave Foundations Overseer The Seven Events of the Apocalypse The fourth event is described by Macaper as ôthe appetite of nothing expands over the worldö;
Orpheus Rael	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:50:00 - [44] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. We came from Terra through the EVE Gate, we built up and colonized vast worlds across the cluster, then the Gate closed and we suffered a thousand years of darkness only to re-emerge once more into the light strong and proud. The Cluster as a whole has been kicked and beaten and thrown down and each time we rose from our ashes time and time again. I am not afraid of you. We are not afraid of you. It's never too late for hope, time for you to start praying.
Vlad Cetes Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.05.12 00:52:00 - [45] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. That is correct. For it is too late for you. Even with a copy of a Sleeper VR, similar to my CABAL, you are weak. Kuvakei made one step in human evolution, I have made a jump. Those who fail to adapt will become victims of evolution. Primo Victoria Siege Heil
Corporate Thief Caldari Code Triage	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:01:00 - [46] By deciding without any true, factual evidence that ours is the right cause, we have made our first and gravest mistake. By declaring our superiority, we have made what is possibly our most fatal judgment. We do not know any longer what cards the Nation holds hidden, or what its capabilities are. Mark my words, caution and diligent preparation will be the key to ending this rising conflict swiftly. CT
Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:03:00 - [47] So the Sansha toasters reverse engineered some Sleeper crap and can play with wormholes. I am shaking in my pod. No really. What will we ever do?
Matsumoto Yoshizu Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:03:00 - [48] If the rest of the mindless drones are as incompetant as the ones I personally slaughtered today, a fresh faced pilot straight out the Caldari State War Academy sitting in an Ibis will laugh in the face of the Sanshas' threats.
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:03:00 - [49] I go on a vacation and come back to this. Well, so far, this is interesting. and, if it helps any, I got rid of that annyoing line in my sig.
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:04:00 - [50] Originally by: Aria Jenneth If the Nation is training its own capsuleers, if it is running an "academy" of sorts, that means it has the capability to create practically unlimited quantities of, basically, us, given sufficient time-- "us" with ensured loyalty and free access to Nightmare-class battleships, among, I'm sure, others: quasi-immortal engines of focused destruction. It is even entirely possible that the Nation can improve up the notion of a "capsuleer." They do not have to limit themselves to random genetic chance, and could mold their future pilots from before birth. Their "capsuleers" appear to believe this is the case: "[17:27:40 ] Slave 32152 > Capsuleers are weak. Heirs ot a mistake. We are the correction." Presumably, it should read "Heirs to a mistake" or "Heirs of a mistake." Our technology is a hand-me-down from the Jove. It is entirely probable that the Jovian technology is a hand-me-down from those civilization left in ruins throughout W-space. If the Sansha have been in W-space from the time of their exile, it becomes possible that they have gained direct access to the root technology. If we were to take the Slave's puffery at face value for the sake of argument, it then also becomes possible the Nation has in fact discovered an error in our own technology and "improved" upon it (that error may well be an "excess" of free will, though I scoff at the notion the empires could not control a flock of infantile capsuleers by way of their precious little clones; anyway...). My own thinking on the fate of those ancient civilizations is that they were destroyed by the products of the research which, among other things, led to what is now "our" pod technology. If the Sansha were to have come in contact with that pseudo-mechanical lab monstrosity, they would be naturally drawn to it given their condition. It is my further suspicion that Earth was itself destroyed by this monstrosity. The Gate did not close in time. What remains on Our Side would now very much like to join with what exists Earth Side, and so I see Macaper's prophecy proceeding: This invasion is the appetite of nothing expanding. The Gate will be opened and we will send a little brother home; he'll get eaten. A single Jovian intellect shall divide itself among the Four Empires to bring them together as one; this intellect already exists in Jamyl and Shakur [though I may not be able to know this...], and so I wonder what Jamyl or Shakur has to say about the Sansha activity. That which destroyed the W-space civilizations shall return from Mother Earth through the EVE Gate, much to our excitement.

Nikita Alterana Gallente Inimical Eclipse	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:07:00 - [51] CRITICAL SHORTWAVE DATABURST Federal Intelligence Office reports Rallence Ameteves is located at 3-CE1R VIII - Moon 5 - Prosper Vault station in the 3-CE1R system, F-0CTG constellation of A821-A region I have just corroborated this information with my own locator agent in the Amarr Empire, and have gotten the same result. Long distance fluid router measuring ticks have also indicated a large battle took place in F-OCTG less then 32 hours ago. This situation has just gotten a lot more problematic.
Silver Night Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:10:00 - [52] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. This is what you fear, Ms Jenneth? Some group that resorts to grandiose, cliche-sinister proclamations? I would also be very surprised if the other pirate groups were not employing - or training - podders of their own. Nothing about that means that they are going to take over the cluster with them. By all evidence, whatever 'podders' came along with the Nation group's forces, they were pretty incompetent. It may just be that this group of Sansha's Nation relics were delusional enough to get themselves massacred when other groups - inside and outside the Nation - are bright enough to hold any podders in reserve. If they have the capability to 'make' more podders, why only so few in this first attack? Why ruin the surprise, if surprise it is? Why were the podders so incompetent tactically and - if they were the ones leading this splinter group - strategically? Your own ideas are possible, Ms Jenneth, but hardly certain. I will continue to wait before I allow myself to be panicked by a minor incursion with a novel travel method and a handful of incompetents who apparently don't fit a shield booster on a Nightmare and use nosferatu modules exclusively, from reports I've heard. Podders who don't fit guns aren't much of a threat. Finally: I would say that if the Nation, or some groups within it, have podders, it is more important than ever that ways are found to rehabilitate those under the Nation's control. Even if this is all part of some over-arching master-plan, then wouldn't the ability to take the Nation's soldiers away from it be beneficial? -------------- Silver's Fiction
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:16:00 - [53] Originally by: Kor Shivat It is my further suspicion that Earth was itself destroyed by this monstrosity. The Gate did not close in time. What remains on Our Side would now very much like to join with what exists Earth Side, and so I see Macaper's prophecy proceeding: This invasion is the appetite of nothing expanding. The Gate will be opened and we will send a little brother home; he'll get eaten. A single Jovian intellect shall divide itself among the Four Empires to bring them together as one; this intellect already exists in Jamyl and Shakur [though I may not be able to know this...], and so I wonder what Jamyl or Shakur has to say about the Sansha activity. That which destroyed the W-space civilizations shall return from Mother Earth through the EVE Gate, much to our excitement. Earth is a myth. Macaper was deranged. and, if it helps any, I got rid of that annyoing line in my sig.
Jarik Utoni Minmatar Valhalla Industries	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:21:00 - [54] Has there also been attacks against the pirate factions? or are these attacks only coming against empire space? Another thing that's been bugging me is if The Nation waited for a wormhole, came through random ones, or created one. __________________ -Jarik Utoni, --Cov Ops Pilot ---T2 Frigate Specialist d(^.^)b The Story of Jarik Utoni
Natalcya Katla Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:27:00 - [55] CONCORD has the legal right to withhold any and all information from the public which it isn't legally required to disclose, you know. Railing against that fact is unlikely to lead anywhere at all. And really, this incursion is a perfectly valid tactic used by an occupied nation in retaliation against those who have engaged in continuous aggression against it and continue to do so. For the benefit of those who don't know about them already, the existence of these occupant communities is actually underlined rather neatly by the content of these documents. In light of that fact, these outbursts of shock and outrage seem naive and silly. If the powers of central space wish to avoid retaliatory attacks from Sansha's Nation, then perhaps they first of all should consider removing their occupying forces and civilian squatters from the Nation's sovereign space and soil.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:44:00 - [56] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 12/05/2010 01:48:04 Silver: In case this slipped by you, let me explain what Ms. Alterana's intel means. Originally by: Nikita Alterana Federal Intelligence Office reports Rallence Ameteves is located at 3-CE1R VIII - Moon 5 - Prosper Vault station in the 3-CE1R system, F-0CTG constellation of A821-A region The Prosper Vault station in 3-CE1R is a Jovian Directorate facility within the sovereign territory of the Jovian Directorate. Quote: Long distance fluid router measuring ticks have also indicated a large battle took place in 3-CE1R less then 32 hours ago. This would seem to suggest that Rallence Ameteves is not there as an invited guest of the Directorate. If this information is accurate, the Jovian Directorate is under attack. And it appears that the Nation won round 1. Absurd? I didn't even consider it a possibility. Not until we started getting this intel. "Heirs to a mistake." We are heirs to the Jove. Any suggestions on how I should react to this, Silver? Any blithe statements on how CALM I SHOULD BE?! Even if this intel turns out to be false, it came out that way because someone managed to mislead our usual methods of data collection-- someone, most likely, aligned with the Nation. This implies massive organization and a number of dangerously well-placed agents. If the Jove are under attack ... if the Nation has done what the Amarr failed to ... ... gods and spirits, Silver....
Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:45:00 - [57] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. I get it, you guys are bummed about us moving to Providence and practicing our form of cloaking guerrilla warfare in your hubs and other military installations, aren't you?
Silver Night Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 01:55:00 - [58] Or, more likely, the FIO is just lying to Ms Alterana. This is a CONCORD operation that neither they nor the Empires seem to want Podders sticking their noses into, that is more than clear enough. Simple deceit is well within their capabilities. -------------- Silver's Fiction
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 02:00:00 - [59] Originally by: Silver Night Or, more likely, the FIO is just lying to Ms Alterana. This is a CONCORD operation that neither they nor the Empires seem to want Podders sticking their noses into, that is more than clear enough. Simple deceit is well within their capabilities. The solution in that event is, "The pilot cannot be found." Making it look like the Jove are under attack, and have lost control of at least one station, is a horrible method of getting people to go do something else.
Silver Night Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 02:07:00 - [60] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Originally by: Silver Night Or, more likely, the FIO is just lying to Ms Alterana. This is a CONCORD operation that neither they nor the Empires seem to want Podders sticking their noses into, that is more than clear enough. Simple deceit is well within their capabilities. The solution in that event is, "The pilot cannot be found." Making it look like the Jove are under attack, and have lost control of at least one station, is a horrible method of getting people to go do something else. It wouldn't be the first time someone in the mess has acted apparently irrationally. What sort of assets do you suppose the FIO has among the Jove? Assuming it was true, what evidence is there that this person wasn't simply captured by the Jove? It is certainly prudent to worry about the worst case, Ms Jenneth. Just not to the exclusion of less extreme scenarios. If the Nation could crush the Jove, the rest of the cluster is unlikely to be a major problem for them. Clearly a failure by the otherwise apparently omniscient FIO and other empire intelligence branches, not seeing this growing in a part of space they occupy and monitor. Conjecture-induced panic is of use to no one with perhaps the exception of, as you observed earlier, this group from the Nation that perpetrated the attacks. Well, and perhaps as a distraction, for CONCORD and the empires' military and intelligence arms, so that we stay out of their way. -------------- Silver's Fiction

Gorion Wassenar Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.12 02:22:00 - [61] I am no longer curious, I am now concerned. ----- results may vary
Math'ra Hiede Amarr Capital Ships Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.12 03:45:00 - [62] This... is a disturbing development. It seems as if the Nation is growing bold again, one may even be forgiven, maybe even encouraged to say a time for another purge of the Sansha is not that far off. Simple pirates can be dealt with, but the plague that is the Sansha must be quelled. I pray that the CONCORD assembly sees this and the new threats are dealt with accordingly.
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.12 04:09:00 - [63] Originally by: Aria Jenneth If this information is accurate, the Jovian Directorate is under attack. And it appears that the Nation won round 1. Absurd? I didn't even consider it a possibility. Not until we started getting this intel. "Heirs to a mistake." We are heirs to the Jove. It is also quite probable the Sansha are not the primary actors in that attack. It is true that we are heirs to the Jove, but while the Jove may be descended from lost giants, they are not the giants, and they are not what cut the giants down. While the Sansha play with our little empires, an older enemy, a "dark light that shall return from the heart of the mother," is gathering strength. The EVE Gate is going to open, and it will not be humans who wait on the other side.
Dagny Bronstein	Posted - 2010.05.12 05:57:00 - [64] Edited by: Dagny Bronstein on 12/05/2010 05:59:44 Originally by: Kor Shivat I wonder if a Sansha invasion might be considered "an appetite of nothing expanding over the world." sure. OOC Originally by: Burning Life It's not hard for them to get people who'll ... work independently. As you probably remember there are many who welcome us, even seek us out, in worship or desperation to escape from themselves. An abundance of slaves willing to be taken. (highlight mine)
Graelyn Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.05.12 06:48:00 - [65] Vak'Atioth revisited, but with a different result? frowns I believe it is clear then, the self-imposed quarantine of the Jove has been hiding a downfall on a scale that we had not dared to imagine. Still, there are obviously more pressing concerns than that conjecture... The pilots of the Synonese Accord have my personal thanks for their efforts in this matter. Today, everything changes. -------
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 07:21:00 - [66] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 12/05/2010 07:24:58 Originally by: Silver Night It wouldn't be the first time someone in the mess has acted apparently irrationally. What sort of assets do you suppose the FIO has among the Jove? I really don't know. Capsuleers don't usually end up over there. Quote: Assuming it was true, what evidence is there that this person wasn't simply captured by the Jove? Let's start with his ability to communicate over IGS a few minutes before he was thus located. Quote: If the Nation could crush the Jove, the rest of the cluster is unlikely to be a major problem for them. Maybe, maybe not. We know of one apparent battle. It could be that the Nation gained an advantage by treachery or surprise. It could also be that the Jove simply suffer a severe numerical disadvantage; capsuleer-piloted Nightmares can pose a challenge for other capsuleers, and may be capable of standing up to the limited Jove fleet more effectively than conventional Amarrian battleships were. Our numbers? Not so limited. Quote: Clearly a failure by the otherwise apparently omniscient FIO and other empire intelligence branches, not seeing this growing in a part of space they occupy and monitor. As I understand it, there's evidence these attacks aren't based in K-space at all. But they certainly knew that something was going on. Quote: Conjecture-induced panic.... Who's panicking? Silver, the notion of the Nation as a redeemable entity always struck me a little bit as a dreamer's hope. You know about Kostantin. You know about IzzyChan. You know that your hope of redeeming the Nation depended on being able to take control of its soul-- to transform your propaganda into truth. Knowing all that, look on this. The actions of a small faction within the Nation? Don't be absurd. Look at Ghost Hunter's reactions-- how can we possibly square your reading of the situation with his, considering that you're a starry-eyed idealist and he's a full-on creature of the Nation? How can you say, "It's some small splinter group," when his reaction is, "Yes, master, how may I serve?" Quote: It is certainly prudent to worry about the worst case, Ms Jenneth. Just not to the exclusion of less extreme scenarios. I'm not saying you should stop looking for ways to rescue a True Slave. That's absolutely a valuable weapon, and one we should wield with enthusiasm as soon as you or others put it into our hands. Perhaps we can still do some rescuing and redeeming, but it's time to start thinking about rescuing and redeeming people from the Nation. The Nation itself is making its move. CONCORD may have wanted us not to interfere. Mostly, we don't meddle in events planetside, anyway, and a lot of their activity seems to have been there. Also, they likely wanted to avoid a panic; these words may reach you, but the general population's almost certainly not getting more than rumor. However, now that it's having to frantically call in support from local capsuleers, CONCORD has officially lost control of the situation. Covert investigation and data-gathering no doubt continues, but we've got experimental incursions by the Nation taking place across Empire space and a True Power representative making grandiose statements on the IGS. We've gotten a rather dangerous reaction programmed into us by all the megalomaniacs we get around here: someone makes some statement like, "It's already too late," and we immediately dismiss the speaker as a harmless (to us) lunatic. So-- are we doomed as he wants us to think we are? No. But we might be if we fail to take the threat seriously. Can you bring yourself to admit that, to take that step? I suppose we'll see.
Noriko Rei Venture Racing	Posted - 2010.05.12 08:03:00 - [67] Perhaps the next coalition to meet the Sansha threat will do the job right.
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.12 09:15:00 - [68] We know the Sansha came through a wormhole, the wormhole was collapsing when I got to their Caldari-based strike. We know they number in atleast the 30,000s. We know they harvest humans to increase their numbers, this gives them the potential for exponential growth. What I'm wondering is, hasn't a single capsuleer tried to enter the wormholes they came in on to see where they came from? Next time, I encourage everyone to fly through, especially if you're in a ship that can cloak during warp. The intel. you can gather would be more than invaluable.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.12 10:33:00 - [69] Originally by: Aynen What I'm wondering is, hasn't a single capsuleer tried to enter the wormholes they came in on to see where they came from? Yes I tried. Several times in fact. The Wormhole in question (Urlen) was different from the ones I have encountered before. My navigation systems would not lock onto the Wormhole and a manual approach had no effect. Heartstone ---
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.12 10:57:00 - [70] Edited by: Hooch Flux on 12/05/2010 10:57:27 Well, well, well, seems someone is feeling a bit punchy. Hardly say I'm surprised. Let's see where this goes this time? I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!

Teinyhr Minmatar Nor'akho Matar	Posted - 2010.05.12 11:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Aynen What I'm wondering is, hasn't a single capsuleer tried to enter the wormholes they came in on to see where they came from? This excerpt from the transcript I provided might discourage some trying that. Quote: [17:26:03 ] Silonneri Balginia > I'm sending probes through that wormhole. Something's different here... [17:29:18 ] Silonneri Balginia > My probes aren't responding. I think I lost them in that wormhole ~~Ayuun Korras ------------------- This is Sig. Launch every Sig. For Great Justice.
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.12 11:53:00 - [72] If we can send things through it doesn't have to matter that those things are destroyed, as long as they have a lot of mass to them so we can collapse their incoming wormholes.
Alveolus Core Synthesis Unlimited	Posted - 2010.05.12 12:45:00 - [73] Edited by: Alveolus on 12/05/2010 12:44:56 Worrying times indeed, and allow me to add my thanks - both personal and on behalf of my corporation - to the Synenose Accord for bringing this issue to the attention of its fellow pod pilots. A few key questions stand out for me at this time: In these encounters, have the Sansha been directly assaulting Pod Pilot assets (without being fired upon first) or have all such attacks so far taken place against various state / empire institutions? Have any parties involved in the battles we've been hearing about been able to hold a slave pod to ransom until he / she provides more information on what's happening? Does the Synenose Accord (or any other involved entity) currently operate a shared intel channel where concerned pod pilots and corporations can liaise with a view to providing assistance as its called for? All questions that I feel can help both myself and my corporation begin to take active steps to respond to such outbreaks should they re-occur, and also to decide what action we feel we deem appropriate. I eagerly await your replies. - - Attia Alveolus CEO & Founder Core Synthesis Unlimited
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.12 12:51:00 - [74] This is worrying news. Six years ago, I vowed that the Sansha would pay for their murder of Emperor Doriam II's envoy. I have not forgotten that vow. As ever, PIE will do its duty to defend the Empire from these inhuman monsters. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Justin Vallar	Posted - 2010.05.12 13:42:00 - [75] The Sansha Slaves and capsuleers that led them appeared to be attacking anyone on sight. No captures of the capsules were able to be made, and they were podded immediately by those present. Their bodies, however, were captured, as Heartstone indicated previously. Finally, we have created the channel "SYNEPublic". Myself and Mr. Soter administrated it, and will coordinate intelligence sharing and operational guidance there. Please don't hesitate to contact me or Julianus if you have further questions.
Nikita Alterana Gallente Inimical Eclipse	Posted - 2010.05.12 13:45:00 - [76] I believe I have determined our next course of action. We need to contact the Sisters of Eve. For the past several hours, we've been looking for access to the wormhole the Sansha have been using, A veritable needle in a haystack. I believe there is another way. We know the sisters of eve have a ship in that system, perhaps it is time we pay them a visit.
Koronakesh Amarr DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.12 14:10:00 - [77] There are a few things worth specifically noting. The Slave capsuleer amongst Nation's (note: not THE Nation, it is just Nation) was self-identified as Voice. Nation is not a society as we can relate to. It is, effectively, a single body and mind, and the 'people' in it are the cells, the organs, of its body. They do what they do because it is what they do. They don't need a conscious decision of their own to make, they simply perform their function. There can not be a splinter group in Nation. Nation is unity. The attacks via wormholes were opportunistic. I don't believe Nation can actively control the creation and the nature of the wormholes at this time, but it can influence their generation, just as we can with our QFG arrays. If Nation could control wormholes, it would have been more effective to not stagger its attacks, and to appear en masse throughout the Empires. It can reproduce opportunistic attacks on a new level than before, but Nation can't control them. Nation has risen, and it is showing us what it can do. It is an extremely arrogant act, but it believes it has gained the upper hand. Nation has vast resources which it has been using to build up during its dormancy, and it does not suffer from the indecision of the beuracracies inherent in our societies. The efforts of every genius, every bit of labor, every act can be bent to analyze and solve single objectives. Nation is unity. It wants to bring everyone into that unity as well. Nation's Eyes and Ears are all over the cluster, and now its Voice is speaking to us. Nation serves the will of Kuvakei, and so long as it exists, it will continue trying to bring us into its unity. Negotiation is impossible. Nation must be exterminated.
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.12 15:15:00 - [78] Originally by: Justin Vallar No captures of the capsules were able to be made, and they were podded immediately by those present. Their bodies, however, were captured, as Heartstone indicated previously. The corpse of Slave 32152 is undergoing preliminary analysis by The Cosmopolite and myself as we speak in the Star Fraction's research labs. We expect to be able to give a report within a week. Heartstone ---
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.12 15:36:00 - [79] New wave of invasions underway! Sansha force detected at Balle II, temperate planet, and destroyed by combined Moira, Moira Vanguard forces and local capsuleers. Attempted to contact local CONCORD special ops forces. They didn't comment on the situation, saying: Reimina Muar > Now is not the time for interviews. Requesting immediate assistnace from all available capsuleers. What is CONCORD hiding?
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.12 15:46:00 - [80] Originally by: Julianus Soter What is CONCORD hiding? Most of their damn ships it seems. One slip of the trigger and a fleet of CONCORD warships turns up for us but this Sansha invasion doesn't seem to warrant the same agitation from them. Heartstone ---

Caellach Marellus Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 16:29:00 - [81] Seems that the inevitable has finally come. Time to go to work, I hope to see as many of you out there as possible to drive this threat back. My appreciations to General Soter and the SYNE team for their work so far in keeping us all informed. -------------------------------------- All commentary unless explicitly stated remains the personal views of Caellach Marellus and do not necessarily represent that of his Corporation or Alliance
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.12 16:29:00 - [82] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Julianus Soter What is CONCORD hiding? Most of their damn ships it seems. One slip of the trigger and a fleet of CONCORD warships turns up for us but this Sansha invasion doesn't seem to warrant the same agitation from them. Heartstone My understanding of CONCORD leads me to believe that their powers do not extend to defense of a sovereign state; they are a policing and diplomatic organization. Now I may be wrong, but fighting an "incursion" such as this may go against their charter. If that is the case that may go a long way to explaining their current stance and their encouragement of Capsuleers. I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.12 16:36:00 - [83] Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Julianus Soter What is CONCORD hiding? Most of their damn ships it seems. One slip of the trigger and a fleet of CONCORD warships turns up for us but this Sansha invasion doesn't seem to warrant the same agitation from them. Heartstone My understanding of CONCORD leads me to believe that their powers do not extend to defense of a sovereign state; they are a policing and diplomatic organization. Now I may be wrong, but fighting an "incursion" such as this may go against their charter. If that is the case that may go a long way to explaining their current stance and their encouragement of Capsuleers. You are not wrong there but they are attacking Capusleers in a way that would bring down a whole mob of CONCORD ships if it were a Capsuleer doing it which in some cases it is. Now don't get me wrong I am all for CONCORD backing the hell off but they seem to be picking their fights recently.... Heartstone ---
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.12 16:37:00 - [84] CONCORD Commander on the scene Battle in orbit of Balle II Pictures from the scene of the battle
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.12 17:37:00 - [85] Edited by: Hooch Flux on 12/05/2010 17:40:28 Edited by: Hooch Flux on 12/05/2010 17:39:24 Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Hooch Flux Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Julianus Soter What is CONCORD hiding? Most of their damn ships it seems. One slip of the trigger and a fleet of CONCORD warships turns up for us but this Sansha invasion doesn't seem to warrant the same agitation from them. Heartstone My understanding of CONCORD leads me to believe that their powers do not extend to defense of a sovereign state; they are a policing and diplomatic organization. Now I may be wrong, but fighting an "incursion" such as this may go against their charter. If that is the case that may go a long way to explaining their current stance and their encouragement of Capsuleers. You are not wrong there but they are attacking Capusleers in a way that would bring down a whole mob of CONCORD ships if it were a Capsuleer doing it which in some cases it is. Now don't get me wrong I am all for CONCORD backing the hell off but they seem to be picking their fights recently.... Heartstone Doesn't CONCORD only have true juristiction over pilots who are part of governments which are signatories to the Treaty of Yulai? As the Nation was not a signatory to this it might put CONCORD in an odd legal position for dealing with them. From a legal perspective the Nation is a problem for the 5 signatories not CONCORD. Seems odd, but that is politics for you. Also would explain a lot. Edit: By "part of governments" I don't mean that you view yourself as part of the system, but your initial pilot training was sponsored by one of the signatories. I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Ituralde Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.12 17:38:00 - [86] Doesn't it seem strange to anyone that CONCORD always seems to respond quickly to punish Capsuleers but is fairly lax when it comes to responding to these incursions? It's interesting to see how they prioritize attacking and policing Capsuleers over dealing with other serious threats. Perhaps if they spent less effort trying to hold down the rise of us capsule pilots, they'd have the resources to respond to something like this. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
Ans Blix Amarr Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:03:00 - [87] Edited by: Ans Blix on 12/05/2010 18:04:23 Niarja was the latest system to be attacked at 17:00 Yulai Standard. The incursion was repelled but at a cost. Sad news from the CONCORD Commanders on the scene: [17:59:00] Harah Joele > Reports from the ground indicate that Sansha dropships made it back through the wormhole with an estimated fifty thousand Amarr citizens. ------------------------------------ - Ans Blix The battle of Will over Reason Silence is a true friend that never betrays
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:08:00 - [88] CONCORD cannot get away with sitting on their intelligence. I think there are few rational voices who would not join me in DEMANDING that CONCORD immediately hand over any and all information that they have on this new Sansha threat. Forget your pride, CONCORD - millions upon millions of innocent lives could be at risk! Must we always wait for terrible consequences to inspire you to take action? -----
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:16:00 - [89] Niarja VII has tonight been brutally attacked by Sansha forces. They were repelled, but their survivors escaped with around 50,000 Amarrian subjects. This has been a dark day for the Empire Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:18:00 - [90] Edited by: Myxx on 12/05/2010 18:21:29 Concord, we DEMAND answers. Care to recall what happened with the Code Aria incident, and the elder fleet incident? GIVE US ANSWERS! 70,000 people are presumed dead today alone! Stop with the media blocks, stop sitting on information that is vital. The sansha have attacked not one, but eight high security systems in less than 48 hours through a wormhole that they, for all intents and purposes, appear to be able to control. edit: I gave a low number. Fixed. and, if it helps any, I got rid of that annyoing line in my sig.

Imiarr Timshae Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:34:00 - [91] The assault that took place over Niarja VII saw the abduction of fifty thousand Amarr citizens despite concentrated capsuleer defence. Images Follow:/ Niarja VII - Capsuleer Fleet Niarja VII - Wormhole Niarja VII - Sansha Commander Rallence Ameteves Under Fire Niarja VII - Rallence Ameteves in the midst of combat, and myself Niarja VII - Rallence Ameteves' Pod Destruction (White Ball of Light) ----- Originally by: GM Horse Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things. Originally by: CCP Shadow Tragic smelting accidents.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:39:00 - [92] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 12/05/2010 18:42:07 Originally by: Heartstone You are not wrong there but they are attacking Capusleers in a way that would bring down a whole mob of CONCORD ships if it were a Capsuleer doing it which in some cases it is. There's been speculation that CONCORD is so effective against capsuleers because we have some sort of disabling device built right into our equipment, likely the very interface implants in our skulls. CONCORD, after all, has jurisdiction over us; they need some method of keeping us unruly creatures under control (and, interestingly, they're not nearly as dangerous when ecountered in nullsec). It seems likely that our pods interface to some degree with CONCORD facilities in hisec; this is how they find lawbreakers so quickly, and how they detect illegal combat in the depths of low-security space. It's most likely our own pods or implants tattling on us, then rendering us helpless against CONCORD retaliation. Naturally, then, they would have no control over pod interfaces that did not originate in any part of the system they oversee. Probably, pitted against an uncontrolled capsuleer force, their forces would be reduced to mere conventional ships-- tougher than most, perhaps, but still chaff before a capsuleer armada. We are likely the best weapon CONCORD has to fight off this menace, and they are therefore using us.
Sinjin Mokk Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:49:00 - [93] I would be remiss if I did not take the time to thank the assistance of pilots of all races in their brave attempts to stem the tide of pirate and terrorist aggression in Niarja. We have lost much this day, but we could have lost much more. While the Empire has suffered a loss, I am of the opinion that Law has scored a victory. I should also make a personal note to Concord to remind them that my King is far less patient than my Empress.
Silver Night Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 18:54:00 - [94] Well, their purpose seems a bit more clear, and I concede that the locations of the wormholes are quite likely no accident. I still wonder at the vast numbers of ships this group has sacrificed for so small a prize (in relative terms), and the low rate of success so far. Of course, my thoughts and prayers are with those taken and their families during this difficult time. It is my hope that this marauding group from the Nation is stopped as soon as possible. -------------- Silver's Fiction
Sinti Vailatti Epitoth Fleet Yards Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:05:00 - [95] If they have the ability to produce zombified capsuleers, then they can throw a lot of resources for small gain because on a long enough timeline they'll come out ahead. Serving the Dark Amarr
Silver Night Caldari Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:07:00 - [96] Depends on how many of those they capture are viable as capsuleers via whatever their methods are. If it was as easy as some would have it, we would already be inundated with Nation capsuleers, I would think. -------------- Silver's Fiction
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:12:00 - [97] Originally by: Silver Night Well, their purpose seems a bit more clear, and I concede that the locations of the wormholes are quite likely no accident. I still wonder at the vast numbers of ships this group has sacrificed for so small a prize (in relative terms), and the low rate of success so far. Are the recovered logs described in this posting: Recovered Logs ...considered forgeries? Obviously, we have been sent mere "children" while the True Plague occupies itself with Jovian space (where it appears to have been quite successful). The threat is not whatever we might presently imagine the capabilities of the Nation to be, but is instead a combination of that Nation with horrors that have evolved for millennia in the remote darkness. God's finger hovers near the reset button.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:35:00 - [98] What proof do we have that the 50k+ people in the Empire where actually taken? Is this based on Sansha word alone? 30 minutes to land in a gravity well, grab 50 thousand people, shuttle back up... does not really sound believable to me. Or they have some quite interesting technology. Other than that, Sansha and slaveraids? What else is new? More than what's been taken change hands in known space daily. And die in a single small fleet battle. I would suggest the question: "Who benefits from the panic stirred by these events?" for consideration. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Anthrax05	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:38:00 - [99] Nation Attack on Tama V, Carrier for the Nation confirmed on the field. Forces responding to this attack however suffer heavy losses from Local Pirates.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:40:00 - [100] Originally by: Kor Shivat Are the recovered logs described in this posting: Recovered Logs ...considered forgeries? Obviously, we have been sent mere "children" while the True Plague occupies itself with Jovian space (where it appears to have been quite successful). I would be very slow to take those writings at face value, pilot. If you believe everything you read, the universe would seem to be packed to bursting with characters straight from a holovid. Many's the capsuleer who develops profound delusions under pressure, and True Plague there, while clearly a decent writer, is probably one of the more extreme examples. It might be for real, unlikely as that seems. But if it is what it claims to be, it's notably sloppy with its information control. Still, I agree that the Nation either has not yet used its forces seriously or else is still probing and testing-- learning both our capabilities and its own.

Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:45:00 - [101] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Other than that, Sansha and slaveraids? What else is new? Ms. Rhiannon, with respect, what is new is who is carrying out the raids. They are Sansha's Nation capsuleers. Not conventional Sansha ships. Not capsuleers loyal to Sansha's Nation but still under CONCORD control. These appear to be Sansha personnel, immune to standard CONCORD lockdown, with capsule technology. Sansha's Nation capsuleers. If they can produce such minions in numbers, this is a nightmare (no pun intended) in the making.
Vincent Death Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:51:00 - [102] Originally by: Anthrax05 Nation Attack on Tama V, Carrier for the Nation confirmed on the field. Forces responding to this attack however suffer heavy losses from Local Pirates. Federal Defense Union pilots opened fire upon State Protectorate pilots who were attempting to save Caldari citizens from the Sansha raiders. This is inexcusable Gallente.
Yoshitaka Moromuo Prophet Industries Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:54:00 - [103] Originally by: Vincent Death Originally by: Anthrax05 Nation Attack on Tama V, Carrier for the Nation confirmed on the field. Forces responding to this attack however suffer heavy losses from Local Pirates. Federal Defense Union pilots opened fire upon State Protectorate pilots who were attempting to save Caldari citizens from the Sansha raiders. This is inexcusable Gallente. What is inexcusable is that they were firing upon pilots not affiliated with the Protectorate, and destroying their ships, while the pilots were occupied in dealing with the more pressing matter of that Sansha Archon.
Vincent Death Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.05.12 19:59:00 - [104] Whoever they fired upon, it was an atrocious act. I'm hearing reports that over 100,000 civilians were taken from Tama V and entire settlements destroyed.
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:01:00 - [105] Gallente - Caldari hatred runs deep, which is understandable for both parties. Perhaps it's better than an independent party deals with Sansha in politically charged areas?
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:02:00 - [106] Ms Jenneth, with all due respect, I do understand there is new kind of technology involved. That said, I do also find the current buzz about this premature, alarmist, and based on very hazy sort of intel, and I cannot help wondering who benefits of that. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:07:00 - [107] Tama V: Scene of battle and True Power Archon Tama V: Battlefield Over a hundred thousand people were abducted in the Sansha attack on Tama. Capsuleer infighting no doubt led to the failure of the defensive effort. Additionally, Caldari Navy forces attempted to hack Sansha battleship squadrons to assist in the defense of the system. This was only parially successful. The Archon however, was destroyed. Archon destroyed
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:15:00 - [108] Now is not the time for recrimination! Mixed Metaphor tactical assets on the field supported a ceasefire and even given the opportunity and motive to open fire on Caldari ships chose not to do so, and several other corporations did the same. The militia is not a homogenous entity and it is not possible for us to police every single individual. Warnings were given by several pilots that we could not guarantee the actions of every one of our allies on the field, and the Caldari bravely came anyway to dispose of a mutual threat. Mixed Metaphor, in recognition of this, quit the field after the destruction of the Sansha Archon "Nation" without hostility, and several advisories were given by EL-G pilots that the safety of non-Federal assets could not be assured. The simple fact remains that dozens of FDU pilots turned up to make a valiant attempt to defend the lives of citizens of a nation with which we are at war. I cannot offer an apology on behalf of those who broke cease-fire but I will offer an assurance that MXD pilots will, in future situations in which Gallente and Caldari militias hold a mutual interest, respect a cease-fire as long as our usual adverseries do the same. We must not be drawn apart by pointless bickering at a time when all empires are at risk. -----

Koja Tsutariba Caldari Caldari Navy	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:25:00 - [109] Pilots of the Protectorate, I salute your efforts today, despite our losses. I am personally grateful to those Gallente who put aside their differences and rose together with us to meet this threat. To the rest of you who saw only further opportunities for piracy and mayhem: You are nothing. You are less than nothing. The blood of a hundred thousand souls is on your hands. Koja Tsutariba, CNS Sparrow. Out.

Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:29:00 - [110] Edited by: Andreus LeHane on 12/05/2010 20:29:21 Ms. Tsutariba, if there is anything the corporation can do for you, or the families of those brave crewmen who were senselessly slaughtered by my so-called compatriots, please contact the corporation's CEO or our public channel, MXD Public immediately. -----

Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:45:00 - [111] Originally by: Aria Jenneth Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 12/05/2010 19:48:29 Originally by: Kor Shivat Are the recovered logs described in this posting: Recovered Logs ...considered forgeries? Obviously, we have been sent mere "children" while the True Plague occupies itself with Jovian space (where it appears to have been quite successful). I would be very slow to take those writings at face value, pilot. If you believe everything you read, the universe would seem to be packed to bursting with characters straight from a holovid. Yes, yes of course. And it would be foolish to dismiss something of significance out of hand were it actually valid intelligence. Indeed, "military intelligence," fun as it is to mock, is not about processing incontrovertible facts. It is about preparing for scenarios which might materialize based on an assemblage of imperfect knowledge. As it appears to be true that Jovian space was attacked successfully, while empire space has only faced minor threats, the presence of a more substantial enemy than what we know as the Nation gains credibility. Yes, we can attribute the different outcome in Jovian space to the pretense of our "capsuleer" expertise, but that pretense itself is nothing more than a Jovian hand-me-down. It is possible the Jove lost all mastery of their own technology between their crushing defeat of the Amarr and today. It is also possible they have been confronted by a significantly more dangerous enemy. Which possibility seems more founded in reality, and which seems more like the fantasy of a holovid addict?
Ghost Hunter Kinetic Vector	Posted - 2010.05.12 20:58:00 - [112] Originally by: Koja Tsutariba Pilots of the Protectorate, I salute your efforts today, despite our losses. I am personally grateful to those Gallente who put aside their differences and rose together with us to meet this threat. To the rest of you who saw only further opportunities for piracy and mayhem: You are nothing. You are less than nothing. The blood of a hundred thousand souls is on your hands. Koja Tsutariba, CNS Sparrow. Out. You say that as if it is a lot. ______ True Slave Foundations Overseer The Seven Events of the Apocalypse The fourth event is described by Macaper as ôthe appetite of nothing expands over the worldö;
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2010.05.12 23:02:00 - [113] Originally by: Sofia Roseburn - Kaaputenen at 16.00 EVT - Frarn at 17.00 EVT - Renyn at 18.00 EVT - Ashab at 19.00 EVT - Eystur at 20.00 EVT - Urlen at 21.00 EVT Just as I figured. US west coast players can only participate by calling in sick to work. -- Nah, that's just my Asperger's kickin' in.
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2010.05.12 23:41:00 - [114] Originally by: Koja Tsutariba Pilots of the Protectorate, I salute your efforts today, despite our losses. I am personally grateful to those Gallente who put aside their differences and rose together with us to meet this threat. To the rest of you who saw only further opportunities for piracy and mayhem: You are nothing. You are less than nothing. The blood of a hundred thousand souls is on your hands. Koja Tsutariba, CNS Sparrow. Out. Worth noting that there was only 3 Protectorate pilots that assisted, with 68 Federation pilots who engaged the carrier.
Casiella Truza Ecliptic Rift New Eden Research	Posted - 2010.05.13 01:56:00 - [115] Hm. Fifty thousand Amarrians taken as slaves, certainly a tragedy. I'd hope the Empire thinks more about this and how Minmatar families feel when they suffer the same fate. Anyway, good show by those involved. Though I wonder if capsuleers couldn't acquire more data through observation, analysis, and reconnaissance than simply blasting anything on their overviews.
Aldrith Shutaq Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.05.13 01:59:00 - [116] It has been mentioned already in another thread, but today planet one of the Kamela system was also attacked by a Sansha force, seemingly lead by another capsuleer of the name Ahmur Vubina. This attack seems to have been following a similar pattern to the others from today, with a Sansha capsuleer-piloted carrier heading the forces arriving from the wormhole until losses reach a certain point. The goal of this fleet was also apparently to abduct as many people from the planet below until such time. 24th Imperial Crusade forces dispatched the fleet, along with their supposed leader in an Archon. Imperial Naval forces were also present in system, and were able to intercept the dropships sent to the planet's surface. No known civilian casualties. There is one anomaly with this attack however. Ahmur Vubina himself was actually destroyed twice. The 24th Imperial Crusade fleet destroyed his Archon and proceeded to pod him, but not five minutes later did he arrive back in system with a second Archon, fit in the same way. Again he was destroyed and the rest of the Sansha battleships were also dealt with in swift fashion, but the occurrence was rather odd, and (depending on your point of view) rather disturbing. Clearly they do not care very much about their casualties or losses. Well, I have told you all everything I know about this particular attack. I hope the information will be of help should they continue in the next days.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.05.13 02:10:00 - [117] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Ms Jenneth, with all due respect, I do understand there is new kind of technology involved. That said, I do also find the current buzz about this premature, alarmist, and based on very hazy sort of intel, and I cannot help wondering who benefits of that. Ms. Rhiannon, I'll assume, then, that you're also aware that the Nation is placing capital ships directly into planetary orbit with pinpoint accuracy using artificially generated wormholes-- and not the kind that involves a cynosural field. While I'll admit that the intel regarding the Jove remains hazy at best, what the Sansha are doing and what it implies is frankly alarming, so I hope you'll excuse me for sounding the "alarmist" alarm. We move about this star cluster with remarkable ease. But we do not have the capability to simply drop in wherever we want to, Ms. Rhiannon. The Nation was a threat even before it had either this capability or capsuleers. And now? The numbers thus far are not a complete disaster. They're not good, but they're maybe not cataclysmic. The worry is not what is happening now, but the omen it represents for the future. We need to find the origin point of these attacks and tear the whole operation up by the roots, or we can expect these attacks to grow much, much worse in the not-too-distant future. We cannot afford to assume that this is the worst we will ever see, or even that this will be "typical" by the standards of future attacks.
Minkert Caldari 101st Covert Ops C. O. R. E.	Posted - 2010.05.13 03:00:00 - [118] I was in Tama with a fleet gathered in SYNEPublic during the attack and destruction of the Sansha Carrier- there were many groups fighting between both miltias, defense forces, and random opportunistic pirates. This chaos led to 100,000 prisoners for the Sansha. The real question is what the commander of the Sansha forces meant by using us to make them strong, are they going to be made trueslaves? Capsuleers? Used as payment to the sleepers for tech? The DED briefings insinuate that the sleepers may be looking to DL into bodies, are we looking at a new enemy entirely? Whatever the case the attacks seem to be ramping up in number and strength, we must prepare to defend this strength and numbers with our own.
Amberlamps	Posted - 2010.05.13 03:07:00 - [119] Originally by: Koja Tsutariba Pilots of the Protectorate, I salute your efforts today, despite our losses. I am personally grateful to those Gallente who put aside their differences and rose together with us to meet this threat. To the rest of you who saw only further opportunities for piracy and mayhem: You are nothing. You are less than nothing. The blood of a hundred thousand souls is on your hands. Koja Tsutariba, CNS Sparrow. Out. That kind of response will only encourage them. These vile beasts you speak of harvest capsuleer tears and somehow use this harvested resource to make ISK and feed their appetite for destruction.
Aldrith Shutaq Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.05.13 04:12:00 - [120] I stand corrected by the recent news report on the Kamela attack; apparently 50,000 people were taken from there as well. This has come as a surprise to me, since the Imperial Navy commander in the system said that the dropships had been intercepted. Quote: [ 2010.05.12 21:33:57 ] Ihsam Dasirel > Sansha dropships were intercepted by Amarr forces. We have avoided the fate of Tama V! I can now only assume the commander did not have adequate knowledge of what was going on. Apart from this, I offer my prayers to those lost. May God have mercy upon them.

Sakuma Ogunuchi Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.05.13 04:24:00 - [121] Originally by: Casiella Truza Hm. Fifty thousand Amarrians taken as slaves, certainly a tragedy. I would think that with only thirty minutes to capture as many slaves as possible that the Matari slave quarters would be a more likely target for the Sansha raiders. --------------------- Quality Caldari goods.
snake driver Amarr	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:07:00 - [122] Is there any new intel from the attack at Auga?
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:12:00 - [123] Originally by: snake driver Is there any new intel from the attack at Auga? So far it seems, Amarr drove the sansha fleet back, and the one known as Slave 32152 had his carrier destroyed, and his pod melted down in a blast of holy Amarrian light. No details if any civilians were injured or captured in the intial attack from the Sansha though.
Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:14:00 - [124] Is there not any compelling reason for us, the capsuleer community, to back off and see how this whole thing pans out? Is it really our business?
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:18:00 - [125] Edited by: Julianus Soter on 13/05/2010 05:18:42 Very much our business. The threat of the Sansha is directed equally at the main body of humanity and the Capsuleer community. As Slave 32152 stated, "capsuleers are heirs of the mistake, and we are the cure." They will stop at nothing to destroy us.
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:20:00 - [126] Originally by: Boma Airaken Is there not any compelling reason for us, the capsuleer community, to back off and see how this whole thing pans out? Is it really our business? To some that would seem like a logical action to take, unfortunately I don't think a single capsuleer loyal to his/her Empire, will stand by and allow these monsters to invade our planets.
Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:35:00 - [127] Originally by: Invelious Edited by: Invelious on 13/05/2010 05:28:08 Originally by: Boma Airaken Is there not any compelling reason for us, the capsuleer community, to back off and see how this whole thing pans out? Is it really our business? To some that would seem like a logical action to take, but I don't think a single capsuleer loyal to his/her Empire, will stand by and allow these monsters to invade our planets. I for one, will not stand by. Kind of what I am getting at. Maybe this might be enough of a shock to the system to inspire said empires to...grow up, and correct the imbalance of power. We may just be screwing them in the ear with our involvement. Tough love isn't fun, but it is pretty damn effective.
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:48:00 - [128] Originally by: Boma Airaken Originally by: Invelious Edited by: Invelious on 13/05/2010 05:28:08 Originally by: Boma Airaken Is there not any compelling reason for us, the capsuleer community, to back off and see how this whole thing pans out? Is it really our business? To some that would seem like a logical action to take, but I don't think a single capsuleer loyal to his/her Empire, will stand by and allow these monsters to invade our planets. I for one, will not stand by. Kind of what I am getting at. Maybe this might be enough of a shock to the system to inspire said empires to...grow up, and correct the imbalance of power. We may just be screwing them in the ear with our involvement. Tough love isn't fun, but it is pretty damn effective. The fact that our assistance has been the turning point in many of these battles is more than enough indication, there is no need for innocents to suffer.
Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.13 05:52:00 - [129] So we have become a crutch? Maybe Sansha is right.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.13 07:10:00 - [130] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 13/05/2010 07:15:00 Some random comments from having followed up the situation: --- Most importantly, where can I buy that wormhole tech? --- In more seriousness, the Sansha claim that "capsuleers were a mistake and they are the cure" is a curious one. First, it is not really capsuleers they are attacking. It is the four non-capsuleer governments, and citizens of those on planetsides. Second, there has been signs of Sansha traced to Jove space. I have heard this interpreted as the Sansha and Jovians fighting. Is there further proof of this fight, or has it been simply an assumption based on the traces? Could it also be that it is the Jovians using the Sansha to try and "fix" what they have now started to believe is their mistake? The Sansha suddenly having technology we have not heard of would certainly fit that. --- To those who are saying this is a time to put aside differences and what not, I say this: put this to perspective. Yes, tens of thousands of people taken is a threat and a tragedy. Yes, a carrier in high-sec space, unannounced, is worrisome. However, more die and are taken daily in space, and one carrier is... well, not very impressive even in low sec, let alone in deeper space. The Sansha forces we have seen so far have been no match whatsoever to our governments', let alone CONCORD's. Even the Elder Fleet did not get much past Yulai after the paperpushers got over their initial surprise. They are certainly no match to capsuleers in general. For the Republic, the Empire is still the real threat. -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.

Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.13 07:34:00 - [131] Elsebeth, your words are music to my ears. Please keep that song rolling.
Heston Berg	Posted - 2010.05.13 07:35:00 - [132] These trends are disturbing indeed. Svadwarlt Industries has always enjoyed close ties with the Servant Sisters of Eve and we will press some of our friends in the Sisterhood to look into Sansha activities in their sector.
Ranis Arcos	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:37:00 - [133] This just came in one Amarr Local Chat Slave 32152 > Unite with us against your misled kin and you will be rewarded. Let Master Kuvakei know of your interest, and we will let you know of our plan .For the Nation. For a new era. pilots have scouted the system and no threat was detected , it appears this was just a invite for capsuleers to join sansha , if some do , things may get more complicated , also this Master Kuvakei may be the next step of understanding whats going on
Caellach Marellus Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:45:00 - [134] Edited by: Caellach Marellus on 13/05/2010 08:45:07 Final assault prior to the mass Sansha communication in all empires was a failed assault in Gyng. Electus Matari was responsible for at least half of the Sansha fleet being wiped out in minutes, however there was assistance from Pilots who came from near and far to aid with such an incredible defence. I'd like to take this moment to thank all pilots who arrived with such rapidity to eliminate the Sansha threat with no losses to either ships or civilians, great work everyone! -------------------------------------- All commentary unless explicitly stated remains the personal views of Caellach Marellus and do not necessarily represent that of his Corporation or Alliance
Evelgrivion Ignatium. Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:47:00 - [135] Originally by: Ranis Arcos This just came in one Amarr Local Chat Slave 32152 > Unite with us against your misled kin and you will be rewarded. Let Master Kuvakei know of your interest, and we will let you know of our plan .For the Nation. For a new era. pilots have scouted the system and no threat was detected , it appears this was just a invite for capsuleers to join sansha , if some do , things may get more complicated , also this Master Kuvakei may be the next step of understanding whats going on You should review your history; Master Kuvakei is none other than Sansha Kuvakei, founder of Sansha's Nation.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:49:00 - [136] Originally by: Boma Airaken Elsebeth, your words are music to my ears. Please keep that song rolling. What'd I do now? -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Goedekke Michels Caldari Rhinemetal Steelworks	Posted - 2010.05.13 08:49:00 - [137] Also in Hatakani local: Slave 32152 > Calling all capsuleers with proven loyalties to the Nation. Sympathizers and Loyalists alike; all are welcome. Slave 32152 > Unite with us against your misled kin and you will be rewarded. Let <b><url=showinfo:1376//671278479>Master Kuvakei</url></b> know of your interest, and we will let you know of our plans. <br><b><br></b>For the Nation. For a new era. Rallence Ameteves > Calling all capsuleers with proven loyalties to the Nation. Sympathizers and Loyalists alike; all are welcome. Rallence Ameteves > Unite with us against your misled kin and you will be rewarded. Let <b><url=showinfo:1376//671278479>Master Kuvakei</url></b> know of your interest, and we will let you know of our plans. <br><b><br></b>For the Nation. For a new era.
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.13 09:03:00 - [138] Food for thought: If Slave 32152 is part of the True Power faction, then why is True Power's standing towards her registered as -0.44? Shouldn't she have a positive standing with True Power?
Ranis Arcos	Posted - 2010.05.13 09:04:00 - [139] Originally by: Evelgrivion You should review your history; Master Kuvakei is none other than Sansha Kuvakei, founder of Sansha's Nation. i always recognized him by his 1st name so it didnt stike me , more importantly though he is supposed to be dead , if he's alive he's had plenty of time to rebuild his forces and with this new wormhole technology Sansha's nation seem to be able to strike where ever they want too , we'l have to be prepared .
Revan Neferis Amarr The Archaeus of Blood The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.05.13 09:39:00 - [140] Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. The Covenant and Sansha Nation always had close ties. You may lead me to Omir... I see a profitable opportunity. I'll support your endeavours. Contact me for further talks. Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik Watch Neferis Resort VII: Auctoramentum Gladiatorum

Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.13 09:48:00 - [141] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Originally by: Boma Airaken Elsebeth, your words are music to my ears. Please keep that song rolling. What'd I do now? Nothing but good stuff. Want to get married? I mean I know I look like a blue toad, but we would have the opportunity to act like Jade and Revan. Has to sweeten the deal a little bit right? Oh wait. Kuvakei is trying to break my window. Be right bac....
5h4dy Alpha Strike.	Posted - 2010.05.13 10:20:00 - [142] What crazy times we live in, to be honest though its kinda funny seeing the amarrians being taken, some might call it a taste of their own medicine haha. Those sanshas are scary people though after working for them for quite awhile, the things you see are not pretty and there not very good with the conversations either, but dam they pay well, and some of that hardwear they provide you with, superb. However while working with the guristas up north, got alittle scared for my own sanity staying round those sansha guys to long, i happened to hear some chatter from some gurista high ups talking about some crazy plans the sanshas had come up with, but after working with the nation for a while i just overlooked it as the usual "take over the world" garbage most of them spew, but maybe there was more to it. Aslong as they dont try to stick any of there crap inside my head and they keep paying out big money, the sanshas aint a problem for me.
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.13 10:32:00 - [143] Originally by: 5h4dy What crazy times we live in, to be honest though its kinda funny seeing the amarrians being taken, some might call it a taste of their own medicine haha. The irony wasn't lost on me either, but within that lies enormous danger. We all have water under the bridge...
Eljar Kjeldsson Caldari Elite Assualt Squad InFeKtuS	Posted - 2010.05.13 10:38:00 - [144] I for one welcome our new zombie-cyborg overlords!!
Anslo Disciples of Night DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.05.13 10:55:00 - [145] I'm going to be perfectly honest with you all...why are you worried? I'm sure all of us have cut down enough Sansha's to remake 50 of their pathetic little "Nation." They're mindless drones with no real abilities compared to us. We are the apex and superior beings. Just kill them like we do everything else. The Sansha are nothing. If you see them, kill them. Simple.
Ranis Arcos	Posted - 2010.05.13 11:06:00 - [146] Originally by: Anslo I'm going to be perfectly honest with you all...why are you worried? I'm sure all of us have cut down enough Sansha's to remake 50 of their pathetic little "Nation." They're mindless drones with no real abilities compared to us. We are the apex and superior beings. Just kill them like we do everything else. The Sansha are nothing. If you see them, kill them. Simple. With Sansha's Minons asking capsuleers to join them , and i'm sure many pilots will with lure of isk then we will actually have a harder time cutting down sansha's Forces
Ruby Amatucci Tomorrowland Orphanage	Posted - 2010.05.13 12:05:00 - [147] Quote: Slave 32152 > Unite with us against your misled kin and you will be rewarded. Let Master Kuvakei know of your interest, and we will let you know of our plan .For the Nation. For a new era. This is really overwhelming. And a little bit scary, too. But my uncle always told me: "Don't ask what the Nation can do for you, but what you can do for the Nation." It's my home and my people, so that makes it my war too, doesn't it? I'm pretty overwhelmed, still, and I need to prepare some more, too. But I'll hurry as fast as I can, Master Kuvakei, I promise!
Hooch Flux Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.13 12:13:00 - [148] Great, now all the mixed bag of nuts are coming out! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.13 12:19:00 - [149] Originally by: Boma Airaken Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Originally by: Boma Airaken Elsebeth, your words are music to my ears. Please keep that song rolling. What'd I do now? Nothing but good stuff. Want to get married? I mean I know I look like a blue toad, but we would have the opportunity to act like Jade and Revan. Has to sweeten the deal a little bit right? Am already, thanks. Besides there's the issue of your blue shine not quite outshining the red of the standings. You wouldn't be looking for employment, by chance? Give up your ways of mindless destruction and join the defense of the Republic in this new crisis! How's that sound? Quote: Oh wait. Kuvakei is trying to break my window. Be right bac.... Say hi, and that he forgot some wrecks in Frarn. Else -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.05.13 15:58:00 - [150] Originally by: Revan Neferis The Covenant and Sansha Nation always had close ties. You may lead me to Omir... I see a profitable opportunity. I'll support your endeavours. Contact me for further talks. Some people will do anything for attention. -----

Kybernetes Moros Amarr Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:37:00 - [151] It might be worth me putting together what information we have thus far and trying to piece together some kind of explanation; I doubt that I will think of anything new, but it's worth a shot and arranging it in a more ordered fashion could perhaps help someone else. The Nation is using wormholes to make its attacks, obviously. The odds against them being naturally occuring are staggering, to say the least: the overwhelming likelihood seems to be that they are influenced (we ourselves can do this to a limited degree using the quantum flux generators in sovereignty systems but controlling the destination as the Nation appears to be is thus far beyond us) by the Nation or an affiliate or even artificially generated altogether. We also know that while the Sansha ships can traverse these wormholes without issue, our own ships are unable to lock on to them, let alone enter. What to me seems the most feasible is that -- either through their own research into the field or salvage of ancient technologies, for the Talocan were apparently 'masters of spatial manipulation and hypereuclidean mathematics' and that seems the ideal knowledge to begin research into wormhole phenomena -- the Nation has acquired the technology to generate 'secure' wormholes only usable by select ships that can be controlled with a high degree of accuracy. Why they have made their attacks so regular when such an ability allows for the ideal element of surprise is beyond me; perhaps things are not exactly as they seem and the Nation is less in control of the wormholes than I initially suspected? Regardless, the main motive behind the Nation's incursions into empire space would appear to be the acquisition of people. The most obvious motive they would have for this is a source of more 'true slaves' and as I understand it to date at least 200 000 people have successfully been abducted by the Nation: certainly enough to crew a large number of ships and I'm sure that a few of them could be made into capsuleers. Until I see any compelling evidence to the contrary, I'm going to assume this to be the case. During the attack on Kamela V (112.05.12) the Imperial Navy was extremely quick to secure the site once the Nation-controlled Archon went down. It seems clear that they know something that we do not about the incursions; I would guess that it wanted something that could perhaps be salvaged from the wrecks. A means to lock and traverse the Nation's wormholes, perhaps? I have to say that with regard to the Navy's actions I'm stuck with figuring out an explanation: I can't decide whether it's archetypal arrogance or something more. The Caldari Navy managing to hack the Nation's ships and have them fire on one another during the Tama incursion strikes me as odd again. Surely the Nation is advanced enough to recognise a blaring security hole in its software that could be identified and exploted in such short order? To me, this would appear to be a specialised job that has been prepared prior to the attack, but how did the State do so? I suppose that there are plenty of other Sansha aside from those involved in these particular incursion to test it out on, but if that is the case why wasn't the exploit indentified sooner? [*] I've seen a few hypotheses about an alliance between the Nation and the Sleepers, Talocan, Yan Jung, or their friends; I struggle to take these as anything more than the standard conspiracy theorist fare. The Nation could feasibly have attained the technology of the Talocan or another race and from that gleaned their knowledge of wormholes, as stated before, but I highly doubt that they would form an alliance with them. Being dead -- or dormant -- is quite the hindrance to that. As I said, I don't think that I've struck on anything new here, but at the very least arranging some of what we know in a more linear format could help someone else make sense of it all.
Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Caldari The Synenose Accord	Posted - 2010.05.13 19:44:00 - [152] Kybernetes Moros, a very good collection of what is known so far. Thank you very much, it will be quite useful.
Kybernetes Moros Amarr Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.13 22:30:00 - [153] Thank you, Ms. Ruutarhara. In the aftermath of the devastating Umokka incursion, some more information has come to light that might be of help. Slave 32152 did, according to AARs, refer to the Archon-class carrier as the 'harvest ship'. This seems to confirm, as if confirmation were needed, that the Nation's goal in these incursions is the acquisition of planetside populations for their own purposes. Conversion to true slaves would still seem to be the most feasible reason they're being taken, though the question of why they need so many all of a sudden is worth asking. Perhaps a development in their technology requires 'fresh' subjects? (though referring to them as some kind of laboratory specimen sickens me) Once the Archon-class 'harvest ship' was destroyed, the wormhole destabilised rapidly. It would therefore seem that the Archon was maintaining the wormhole directly, and this has lead me to my own hypothesis on how the Nation are creating their wormholes, though with my very limited knowledge of wormhole physics it could be extremely flawed. We know that new stargates are created by a 'tendril' of spacetime reaching out and (hopefully) striking the desired gravitational harmonic in a system creating an artifical and stable wormhole between the two points -- though many attempts may have to be made before the right point is contacted. I am tempted to believe that, in their base of operations, the Nation has developed a device not unlike a typical stargate which 'reaches' for a point, but refined the process massively; they can pick a point and just go there without the need for tedious and lengthy trials. A beacon may be present in the area (either in space or on the planet) that can broadcast the exact location to the central 'node', allowing it to connect to that point quickly and efficiently as we and over 400 000 civilians have found out. Assuming my hypothesis to be correct, all that would need to be done is to identify the beacon and destroy it, or otherwise prevent it from broadcasting. I have no idea how the Nation have 'secured' their wormholes so that only True Power ships are capable of passing, but it is almost certainly to do with their generation at the central node. It doesn't seem unlikely that they'd have been able to research such wormhole manipulation or salvage the research of others into the same field. This also provides a potential explanation for the Imperial Navy's actions; if they could find the device used by the carrier to maintain the wormhole, perhaps they could reverse engineer it and create a wormhole into the Nation's space instead of vice versa?
Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.05.13 23:19:00 - [154] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Originally by: Boma Airaken Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Originally by: Boma Airaken Elsebeth, your words are music to my ears. Please keep that song rolling. What'd I do now? Nothing but good stuff. Want to get married? I mean I know I look like a blue toad, but we would have the opportunity to act like Jade and Revan. Has to sweeten the deal a little bit right? Am already, thanks. Besides there's the issue of your blue shine not quite outshining the red of the standings. You wouldn't be looking for employment, by chance? Give up your ways of mindless destruction and join the defense of the Republic in this new crisis! How's that sound? Quote: Oh wait. Kuvakei is trying to break my window. Be right bac.... Say hi, and that he forgot some wrecks in Frarn. Else Offer is tempting, was thinking of U'K as a possibility, cause I am all about my Minmatars. Unfortunately there is my Sansha-like loyalty to my current employer. Let it be known though, that I have never showed up on an EM killmail, because standings aside, you guys are just too cute to shoot.
Roman Bylar	Posted - 2010.05.14 16:04:00 - [155] Edited by: Roman Bylar on 14/05/2010 16:05:33 Quote: Very much our business. The threat of the Sansha is directed equally at the main body of humanity and the Capsuleer community Unfortunatly, you can expect Sansha's to start targeting us directly now. I was at a bar with the wife of a Sansha agent in Amarr. I slipped what I thought was an Aphrodisiac into her drink so I could engage in romance explosion with her. It turned out that I actually put rufinol in her drink. Upon realising this I paniced and ran away like a man. A corp, AdeptusMechanicus, came along an saw her passed out on the floor. Being the pervert he is he had his way with her and took off. Now Sansha hate us and will do everything they can to destroy us.
Kor Shivat Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2010.05.14 18:15:00 - [156] Originally by: Kybernetes Moros I I've seen a few hypotheses about an alliance between the Nation and the Sleepers, Talocan, Yan Jung, or their friends; I struggle to take these as anything more than the standard conspiracy theorist fare. The Nation could feasibly have attained the technology of the Talocan or another race and from that gleaned their knowledge of wormholes, as stated before, but I highly doubt that they would form an alliance with them. Being dead -- or dormant -- is quite the hindrance to that. Now this is a truly insightful observation, given how hindered "being dead -- or dormant" has been to Sansha himself. Indeed, the effort to pretend this is nothing more than the dead-or-dormant Nation trying to capture a few little slaves from our pathetic empires is breathtaking in its befuddled scope. The goal of the enemy is to reopen the EVE Gate and reunite with the agents of Earth's destruction on the other side. Crying about CONCORD withholding information is pointless. It is the Sisters who have more pieces of the puzzle than they are letting on.
Koronakesh Amarr DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.05.14 18:55:00 - [157] Edited by: Koronakesh on 14/05/2010 18:56:00 Today, hundreds upon hundreds of Nation vessels poured into the Arnon system and conducted concurrent assaults on Planets 3, 9 and 11. After nearly an hour of pitched combat, all three fleets were reduced to scrap, with up to 2 dozen capsuleer vessels destroyed. But, as anyone present knows, the aftermath left a disgusted taste in all our mouths. Sutola Endoma of CONCORD arrived and attempted to intimidate and coerce nearly 400 capsuleer pilots in the system to silence, and claimed that the massive fields of wreckage were of unknown origins, and all should avoid the planets due to 'navigational hazards'. She disavowed all knowledge of any unusual wormhole activity, and told us all that our instruments were plainly malfunctioning. Sutola's CONCORD Special OPS battleship was summarily destroyed, without repercussion. CONCORD no longer has any shred of credibility left. Take up this example against the enemies of freedom, and do not let them silence and suppress the truth.
Kybernetes Moros Amarr Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.14 22:56:00 - [158] These more recent incursions in Teonusude, Arnon and Hek have revealed little new about the Nation or their motives, as far as I can see. Ms. Endoma's actions alongside those of CONCORD do, however, paint an unusual picture. Ms. Endoma has been at a number of the incursions and has responded similarly each time, but in Arnon she attempted to threaten and intimidate large numbers of capsuleers in a pathetic attempt to cover up the incursion. She was consequently attacked by large numbers of capsuleers and her ship destroyed. And yet CONCORD did not intervene? If they're going to disavow all knowledge of the Sansha incursions, it makes perfect sense for them to not engage the Nation, but when their own forces have been engaged? I've given this discrepancy some thought and I can't come up with a solution that adequately covers all bases. The most feasible I have so far is that CONCORD is struggling with its own internal issues at this moment in time and has, as with the Sansha incursions, enforced a media blackout concerning the subject. If two or more internal factions are vying for control, then it does not seem beyond the realms of possiblity that a lone vessel engaged by capsuleers would simply be allowed to be destroyed if the pilot was acting contrary to the interests of other factions within CONCORD. Of course, this hypothesis is riddled with holes: if there are indeed multiple factions within CONCORD vying for control, why have we not simply seen a scattered and varied CONCORD response as the various factions act according to their interests? For example, why did no-one come to the aid of Ms. Endoma -- surely those within her faction at least would assist her? The problem of CONCORD's inaction against both the Nation and those capsuleers engaging Ms. Endoma's vessel is certainly puzzling -- as I said, every hypothesis I have conceived seems incredibly implausible, and while the internal power struggle is at least feasible on paper it's full of glaring holes. I'll now turn my attention to our friend Operation Ishaeka, which has given us much of the background knowledge we have concerning these incursions via leaked documents. I'm very rusty with modern languages -- ancient dialects are more my area of linguistic expertise -- but it has come to my attention that, in Intaki, ishaeka translates more or less to 'Leader Two'. It's possible that this was chosen randomly, yes, but what if it was chosen deliberately? The Nation are most definitely acting very differently to how they have in the past. I'm not so sure about there being a new leader as such, since the various Sansha capsuleers have made reference to 'Master Kuvakei', but the possibility is still worth entertaining. The easiest way to fit both in would be to assume that there is another Kuvakei taking the reins, but why would Sansha have stepped down? He has access to cloning technology, unless I am very much mistaken; I can see no reason for him to hand over control of the Nation to another, entirely hypothetical Kuvakei. I suppose that I could tie together the two threads of a CONCORD internal power struggle and the meaning of ishaeka. I am under the impression that, currently, each of the major empires in theory has an equal say in how things are run, but if there are multiple factions within CONCORD looking for power it is perhaps possible that there is at least one which would like to place a single person at CONCORD's head -- the ishaeka, the 'leader two'. This is even more shaky than the other contents of this particular report, but with information being so scarce I'm hesitant to discount anything at this stage. If this is the case, however, it must be the faction looking for the installation of a singular CONCORD leader in total control of Operation Ishaeka, and why would they name their own operation after their goal? γλωσσαι πασσαι εμοι Ελληνικη εισιν
Kybernetes Moros Amarr Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.14 23:03:00 - [159] This all assumes, however, that here ishaeka refers to a leader as in a ruler, not as in someone who leads you from point A to point B. That's another possiblity worth considering, but at this present moment I simply haven't got the time and need to head off. Unless I find a major lead in some other direction tomorrow (pun not intended), I'll probably continue then. I really do need to sit down and analyse the contents of the Operation Ishaeka reports thoroughly, though. I've read them, but only briefly -- and so far they're the only solid information we have from CONCORD. γλωσσαι πασσαι εμοι Ελληνικη εισιν
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.05.15 08:07:00 - [160] Well, it was only a matter of time. Look, WE are the ones using wormholes to cross space, vast regions of it. It take patience. I think the Sansha have a lot of it. I don't think they spend a lot of time in WH systems, and many times I have seen many WH systems with simultaneous openings between zero security badlands and empire space. This seems very helpless. I think the best thing now is to look for a pattern - or hunt these bastards down where they sleep.

Jandice Ymladris Caldari Planet Patrol	Posted - 2010.05.15 11:32:00 - [161] Today at 6H20 a few hours after Tama was attacked by a Supercarrier, an unusual event happened. Slave Tama01 reappeared (she piloted the Wyvern Supercarriers) and began a dialogue with the Capsuleers that were present. In this talk we gained alot more information about Sansha's nation then in all the previous days. In short: -They want to uplift humanity (and do it by adbucting people....) and bring them under sansha's rule. -The mistake the slaves referred to seems to be our free will -She also tried (and regrettably succeeded with some) to see the way of Sansha as the one true path to the Truth -She also confirmed Rellance returned to master to resolve his doubts (good! so they can have doubts, we should keep seeding it till one returns to us) -Master Kubakei lives (or someone they see as master Kuvakei) Not fact but Tama01 seems to refer she was part of the Tama population that was abducted prior, and managed to learn to fly a Wyvern Supercarrier in a matter of days. That her knowledge with Sansha was without limits. -------------- Cleaning up wrecks others leave behind! Got to keep space clean!
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.05.15 11:43:00 - [162] Re: the numbers the Sansha are taking, if you do a simple calculation of the battleship numbers on the field, it is fairly obvious they are losing more people in the attacks than they have managed to take, incurring a net loss. Hence, simply the wish to increase their numbers does not seem a plausible motive for these attacks. This is further supported by the fact that if it was simple numbers, attacks in lower, less populated systems, away from hubs, would likely meet less. Terror tactics is the first obvious theory, of course. The possibility that they need fresh subjects is another - though for what, I have no idea. (Some people have suggested that maybe Sansha ships are not crewed the same as the ships we know, so this number calculation is off. I find this unlikely, first technologically, but also because Nation is a party that seems to rely on "altered" humans for workforce; that they would suddenly use some advanced drone tech on ships instead of that does not seem likely to me.) -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Nikilaiki Ruutarhara Caldari Protocol Dark	Posted - 2010.05.15 11:49:00 - [163] One... minor point. Originally by: Jandice Ymladris -The mistake the slaves referred to seems to be our free will The mistake referred to is Capsule technology. Our power, in Nation's eyes, is wasted on us. It is wasted because we are flawed. Free will is the flaw that keeps us from being "perfect". We use the power that we have for our own purposes, and not for the greater whole. That is the lesson of Tama.
Lyrrashae Minmatar Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.05.15 21:11:00 - [164] Originally by: Vlad Cetes Originally by: Rallence Ameteves It is already too late. All that remains now is for you to accept this simple fact. That is correct. For it is too late for you. Even with a copy of a Sleeper VR, similar to my CABAL, you are weak. Kuvakei made one step in human evolution, I have made a jump. Those who fail to adapt will become victims of evolution. Primo Victoria Siege Heil Be quiet, you!
Slave Tama01 Caldari True Creations	Posted - 2010.05.15 21:23:00 - [165] Nikiruu understands the lesson of Tama. There are many lessons yet to be taught. For Nation.
Aynen	Posted - 2010.05.15 21:45:00 - [166] Most of Nation's logic is sound. A people with a singular will do not fight eachother. But nor could they appreciate their peace without the contrast of war being part of their experience. Their victory, if achieved, will be hollow.


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