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xenonator
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Posted - 2010.05.13 06:39:00 -
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Well I played have played Eve online since October 2007 and followed the suggested career paths through mining (excruciatingly boring) and then on to level 4 mission running (very boring after the first initial rush), and looking back over those 5 years I feel sad writing this.
I recently asked on the eve online forums what I could do for some in game entertainment and had some good suggestions. Following those suggestions I joined a low sec corp and trained for exploration and a covert ops ship (Buzzard) to try and alleviate the crushing boredom that is Eve online. I just started to move my **** from Frarn (high sec space, maybe 0.9) towards 0.0 space and got ganked by three pirates right outside of the Frarn space station. Concord did nothing, they never fired a shot and I got podded, so bang goes my Raven and a whole bunch of T2 gear and implants. My point is this: despite all the CCP bluster about how they have expanded the game there isn't really any thing to do in Eve Online except hang around in groups and gank people. The lack of content in the game drives players in this direction and the end result is generational: the guys that have been playing the longest hold all the cards.
Eve online, what a total waste of time. Don't play it unless you want to hammer your head against the wall. There's nothing to do unless you want to hang around in groups and destroy what others have made. I have real life regrets in terms of dollars and time expended with respect to this game. cheers. kev.
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GPerson
Gallente Dreddit
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Posted - 2010.05.13 06:49:00 -
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tl;dr Gets ganked after two years of missions, EVE-O is a **** game.
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Balthier Aero
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Posted - 2010.05.13 06:52:00 -
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Did u pay attention to what sec u were in? i'm fairly new to the game but i some times auto jump through gates into .4 space and get podded. The game is fun as long as you take it in patiently. Your not going to get anywhere wanting instant gratification.
People have also stated plenty of times that New Eden is designed to be cutthroat. You walked into the trap set by the pirates. Don't fly what you can't afford to replace and you should be fine.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: xenonator Well I played have played Eve online since October 2007... ...looking back over those 5 years I feel sad writing this.
Maths isn't one of your strong points, is it?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.13 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: xenonator There's nothing to do unless you want to hang around in groups and destroy what others have made.
The last time I destroyed something belonging to another player was in the summer of 2006.
There's plenty of other things to do if you don't like blowing stuff up, it just seems you lack the imagination. A sandbox clearly is not for you.
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Baneken
Gallente Aseveljet Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.05.13 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: xenonator I just started to move my **** from Frarn (high sec space, maybe 0.9) towards 0.0 space and got ganked by three pirates right outside of the Frarn space station. Concord did nothing, they never fired a shot and I got podded, so bang goes my Raven and a whole bunch of T2 gear and implants.
So you were in high sec (0.8 actually) and you got a shot ? Maybe you should check whose can you flip the next time or if the corporation you're joining to doesn't happen to be in war when you join them...
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.05.13 11:16:00 -
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There's a ton of things to do but if you give up easily on your first failure I agree EVE is not for you.
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.13 13:40:00 -
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: xenonator Well I played have played Eve online since October 2007... ...looking back over those 5 years I feel sad writing this.
Maths isn't one of your strong points, is it?
It's just one of his non-strong points.
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Kerertie
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Posted - 2010.05.13 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Kerertie on 13/05/2010 15:10:05 lol
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Syn Callibri
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Posted - 2010.05.13 15:25:00 -
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So you've played since 2007 and got ganked for the first time...Did you ever leave the station or Hi-Sec?
...just asking.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.05.13 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 13/05/2010 15:28:40
Posting in a I can't think of anything to do = There is nothing to do I died = Crap game thread
Protip: Avoid becoming like the OP! Lose a ship and get over it today! -
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SemiCharmed
Clans of the Sanctums
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Posted - 2010.05.13 15:53:00 -
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And from this little guys rant we learn that you should pay attention on whats going on, don't mine and that the only reason the older players hold allot of the cards is because some of us older players went out there, got to know new players in eve and know all the "who, what, when, why and where" and when we got knocked off our e-peen, we got a new one, a bigger one, there are many e-peens like it in eve, however this one is MY, e-peen...
I could rant on, however i love hearing little newbies rant that they got popped and podded and because it happened once it happens every day of there eve life. --------------------------------------------
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rofflesausage
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: rofflesausage on 13/05/2010 16:29:42 You played since 2007 and just trained for a buzzard / covert?
What have you been doing all this time?
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Riedle
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Riedle on 13/05/2010 16:46:14 He joined a corp in Primary. which was obviously deced by the privateers and got ganked. lols
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not much of a loss mail at all really. lol
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.05.13 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: xenonator got ganked by three pirates right outside of the Frarn (0.8) space station. Concord did nothing
Of course CONCORD does nothing whenever there's a war between the alliances the pilots belong to, that's the whole point of a wardec. Might want to be more attentive to the wars your corp/alliance is involved in, and NOT undock solo when there's wartargets in local, or if you're not prepared to PvP. Or, in other words, pay attention to the local channel.
Quote: There's nothing to do unless you want to hang around in groups and destroy what others have made.
Hmm, I must be doing absolutely nothing for years then.
Quote: I have real life regrets in terms of dollars and time expended with respect to this game.
If there was a time to use the phrase "go back to <insert no-significant-death-penalty MMO name here>", this would be it. We like EVE just because it lets you lose -EVERYTHING- if you're careless enough to put it on the line, and if a tiny setback like a T2-fitted Raven makes you "get RL regrets over time/cash spent", then EVE is obviously not the game for you.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.13 17:41:00 -
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I've been playing EVE Online for a bit over a year. I have 4 accounts. There is so much for me to do in EVE that I'm hoping it lasts another 10 years.
When I see posts like the OP, I often wonder if we are playing the same game.
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Akita T
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.05.13 19:49:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 13/05/2010 19:50:52
Originally by: Tau Cabalander When I see posts like the OP, I often wonder if we are playing the same game.
Of course you're not. You're playing "actively trying out lots of things and having fun in a sandbox even if you get a bloody nose now and then online"... ...he's playing "follow-the-leader on rails, entitlement and preconceptions theme park online".
P.S. I play "seen it all, picked one thing I'm good at and stick with it, just roaming the forums otherwise online"
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.05.14 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander I've been playing EVE Online for a bit over a year. I have 4 accounts. There is so much for me to do in EVE that I'm hoping it lasts another 10 years.
When I see posts like the OP, I often wonder if we are playing the same game.
I'm having to cut back on a few things I do to fit in the next thing I want to do. Op is playing another game. It's not easy for new players to see what they can do and other people, like the Op, spouting nonsense on forums does not help. But the Op is not a new player and clearly either he bought his character or simply never played the game while he had it.
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Receg
Caldari Navy Runners OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.14 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: Receg on 14/05/2010 04:19:34
Originally by: Riedle Edited by: Riedle on 13/05/2010 16:46:14 He joined a corp in Primary. which was obviously deced by the privateers and got ganked. lols
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not much of a loss mail at all really. lol
It took him 2 mins to get podded after his ship had already died....wtf?!
To op:
What did you do, undock and turn on autopilot/go afk? If you were outside of a station then re-dock, if your ship gets destroyed then warp away in your pod, at least save your implants.
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Kongkim 040382DK
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Posted - 2010.05.14 09:30:00 -
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Its just sad to loss everything :) But saying that there is nothing to do is just wrong.
Maby true sandbox games just isent for you.
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Angeli Domini
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.14 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kongkim 040382DK Its just sad to loss everything :) But saying that there is nothing to do is just wrong.
Maby true sandbox games just isent for you.
Since when losing a stock T2 PVE fit Raven counts as "losing everything"? Judging by the fit, this guys has to have at least close to perfect shield and missile skills, so there may be some credit to his 2007-player story. And we are then supposed to believe that 2007 guy goes emo for a single PVE crapship loss, so counting insurance, probably at max. 20M ISK?
IMHO - don't feed that obvious troll.
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Penny Pancakes
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Posted - 2010.05.14 10:22:00 -
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Go play neopets. You may be happier there, lots of other children across the world play it.
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.14 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Angeli Domini so counting insurance, probably at max. 20M ISK?
I don't know about other carebears but I never insure my ships. Insurance is only worth it if you expect to lose your ship. Carebears can go years without losing a ship.
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Mari Seles
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Posted - 2010.05.14 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador
Originally by: Angeli Domini so counting insurance, probably at max. 20M ISK?
I don't know about other carebears but I never insure my ships. Insurance is only worth it if you expect to lose your ship. Carebears can go years without losing a ship.
True, but then, 100 million... less thanks to min insurance is nothing for a three year old player.
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kokaku
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Posted - 2010.05.15 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: kokaku on 15/05/2010 11:58:12 so you have been plying since 2007? i've been playing since 2008 the beginning of 2008 3rd month and what not. so a few questions have you ever had a billion isk in your wallet at any point in the game while playing? do you know what a merc corp is? or a war dec for that matter? i have been playing for a shorter time then you and i think ive done it all 0.0 plexing/billions there marketing more iskies, run a corp run a chain of 20 something pos/way more billions there, run with huge blobs to solo ow sec pirating getting -10.0 sec status and working it back up to having 5.0 sec status and loosing it all over again. mining rare ores in 0.0 to veld in a 1.0 system doing courier contracts to hording all my plex loot for a month just to look at a ton of faction/dead space mods in my hanger.
if you have been playing since 2007 a raven loose should be nothing to you. it bites loosing ships yes but try loosing hundreds of them or killing thousands/ spread between many accounts though :( try out dual boxing get into a pvp train corp or something high sec is only the beginning mining and missioning are the basics of the game. if your still stuck going from mission hub to mission hub or mining high sec ores/cheap stuff it is, then you have to look around. i've honestly done so much in this game that im utterly amazed at how i pulled it all off. talk to people, learn from them, read every thing in the info tabs of ships items rigs ect learn learn learn then put it to use. i have bought chars for billions of isk one for 22 billion another for 11 though i sold it for 16 after only having it for 4 months good profit in my eyes. character sell forum ftw. just keep looking, ask around find it. if you dont look then you wont find. try WH's out go learn pvp/ best thing in the game in my opinion. Or get into building the ships you use and sell them learn what marketing is about.
EvE has a lot to offer i have done alot and been around the block enough to think ive seen it all/ dont it all but it keep throwing me new things to have fun like pirating :) 0.0 plex's 10/10's are nuts 100 times harder then lvl 4 missions but worth many time lvl 4's in isk to. 1 raven loss is nothing compaired to people that have lost titans/60-120bill depending on how its fit and still keep going. you need to strive to get what you want you have to reach out and grab it. the reason i love this game is becuase i will always ahve a new thing to do or try out. if you can not do this simple thing of trying to look into other areas and talking to people in local and maken friends to help you out then i would advice something like world of war craft where you do not loose you items and dont ave to train skills that or hello kitty adventure. eve is know for its harshness it is a rough game with no mercy any one could be out to get you just becuase it makes them feel better or because hey dont care or have no reason at all other then it just happened.
look into other things. try them out. if you dont like it you can switch to something else its as easy as that. man drunk and waiting for DT to get over so i can fly through gate camp that is probably going to be blocking my way hehehehee.
anyways best of luck to you i hope you find what you are looking for and something that interests you just keep looking it will come at some point patience is a virtue.
btw i cant spell for the life of my right now hope you can read any of this and make since of it hehehee
.....wow now that i re read it its like im telling a life story or something hahahahaaha!!!!!!....
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Drew Jerac
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Posted - 2010.05.15 12:23:00 -
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Eve is excatly what you make it at the end of the day, it is a sandbox (one with mines, but a sandbox still) and there is a lot to do outside Mining and Mission Running etc, just need to have a bit of imagnation. Races, PvP tournaments, Roams, Scavenger Hunts just to name a few.
It's been said many times, and I'll say it again:
Eve is what ever you make it. ----------
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xenonator
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Posted - 2010.05.23 06:58:00 -
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Well chaps, what ever you say about eve online as a game one must admit that the the forums are sharp and vibrant.
I blush at my maths fail, it was late and I was angry, but the October 2007 date was correct which is the important issue. Apologies.
As you may have seen from my earlier post I am quite genuinely trying to find something interesting in game to do and to that end joined a low sec corp to try and find something worthwhile....
But I think my point stands, I lost my T2 fitted Raven to a bunch of jerks in high sec. Now I saw the comments on the triviality of my loss, but to me it was a BIG ****ING DEAL. I sweated blood to get that ship and equipment and I resent its loss. If you don't feel my pain its probably because its generational (i.e you have been playing EVE forever and are way ahead of the curve in terms of skills and ISK). For us noobs (Oct 2007) its still a struggle and we don't appreciate you tossers destroying our ships.
Maybe Eve isn't the game for me? Probably, just trying to determine whether the game has anything that I can connect with before I cancel my accounts. I really, really want to like it but there is so little to love. It is everything that Elite, Freelance, Privateer, X2 should be but in reality it's a bunch of entrenched players that feed off of the less skilled. The basic problem is that in the absence of real in game content the only thing for legacy players to do in game is destroy what less skilled players have created and thus you have a generational game.
What's easier? Create something or destroy someone elses? Therein lies the problem. Cheers. Kev.
PS hint: destroy someone elses
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.05.23 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: xenonator For us noobs (Oct 2007)
At that age you're not a noob no matter what you claim. Though it is obvious that at that age you can still be ignorant about important game mechanics, there's no disputing that.
Originally by: xenonator Create something or destroy someone elses?
I create stuff all the time, I think it's easier than destroying stuff (when destroying stuff you first have to find it, you have to see if you can take it on, you have to remember aggression mechanics, you have to pin it down, and you have to destroy it - all kinds of things can go wrong there, whereas nothing can go wrong with creating stuff).
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Daisuke Aoki
Gallente Independent Coalition Primary.
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Posted - 2010.05.23 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: xenonator
As you may have seen from my earlier post I am quite genuinely trying to find something interesting in game to do and to that end joined a low sec corp to try and find something worthwhile....
No, you didn't, you joined Fleetworks which is in Primary., a nullsec-based alliance. Why were you in Frarn? There were tons of alliance mails sent out by the leadership as well as postings on the alliance forums to stay out of empire space as we were wardeced by Privateers (which is why 'CONCORD did nothing'), and that you were safer in nullsec with your alliance. The fact that you failed to pay attention to any of these warnings and got yourself ganked is your own damn fault.
I have no ****ing clue why Fleetworks recruited someone as whiny as yourself, as from this thread it's evident that you just try to blame everyone else and the game mechanics for your own failings and lack of imagination on what to do in a sandbox-type game such as Eve.
Originally by: xenonator
But I think my point stands, I lost my T2 fitted Raven to a bunch of jerks in high sec.
No, you practically gave it to them by ignoring repeated warnings and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. If you were just trying to move it out of highsec and into Scalding Pass then either wait for a lapse in the wardec (about every other week, Privateers tends to lose interest quickly) or pay a competent corpmate with a jump freighter to haul it down for you. Fleetworks handles most of the alliance's logistics, ffs!
Originally by: xenonator
Now I saw the comments on the triviality of my loss, but to me it was a BIG ****ING DEAL. I sweated blood to get that ship and equipment and I resent its loss. If you don't feel my pain its probably because its generational (i.e you have been playing EVE forever and are way ahead of the curve in terms of skills and ISK).
I joined in January. Of this year. I've lost 40+ ships in IC and previous corps, mostly due to my own inexperience or stupidity. I learned quickly not to fly what I couldn't afford to lose. I learned to expect losses. I learned even learned ways to avoid losses, like staying out of major hub systems when we're wardeced!
Originally by: xenonator
For us noobs (Oct 2007) its still a struggle and we don't appreciate you tossers destroying our ships.
If you're a noob then what the hell am I? Joined in January 2010 because I had friends from an IRC channel I hang out in that played. Granted, maybe I had an advantage because from day one I was surrounded by friends, many of them playing since 04-05 (did I mention one is a former Privateer?) and they told me not to do and corrected my failfits and such. Apparently you've had no such support and you're clueless like a noob when you've been around for three goddamn years.
Originally by: xenonator
Maybe Eve isn't the game for me? Probably, just trying to determine whether the game has anything that I can connect with before I cancel my accounts. I really, really want to like it but there is so little to love. It is everything that Elite, Freelance, Privateer, X2 should be but in reality it's a bunch of entrenched players that feed off of the less skilled. The basic problem is that in the absence of real in game content the only thing for legacy players to do in game is destroy what less skilled players have created and thus you have a generational game.
Not really. And if you're looking for "in game content", why did you join a nullsec-based corp/alliance? Nullsec is arguably the most sandbox-y part of Eve! No missions, no NPC police, and most everything is player-built and player-controlled!
The "entrenched players" in organizations such as Privateers feed off of the less skilled if you *let* them.
Originally by: xenonator
"What's easier? Create something or destroy someone elses? Therein lies the problem. Cheers. Kev. PS hint: destroy someone"
Only if you lack imagination and ambition.
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