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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2010.05.25 10:56:00 -
[91]
 Originally by: Ashina Sito
Wonderful, an article that largely dismissed 2 thirds of the candidates brought in a sizable bump to the voter roles. By dismissed I mean that the organizational method was to group candidates together was, Past Members of the CSM, new people, people with no information.
Unfortuantely, as you said, there isn't really any other way to present that kind of information on so many candidates. It's not feasible to do them all on one page due to Massively's page styles and the fact that people will only scroll down so much. So I listed the three pages in order of who I had the most information on, and that meant putting previous CSM members on the first page.
If it helps put your mind at rest, we had an abnormally high rate of hit conversion from page 1 to page 2. About 90% of the people that visited page 1 went on to page 2, but few people went to page 3. So everyone but the relatively unknown players got a very similar level of coverage. It was unusual because we usually lose as many people going from page 1 to 2 of a three-page article as going from 2 to 3. People really must have wanted to see all the candidates worth voting for.
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Gray Lobo
Caldari
MRA
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Posted - 2010.05.25 12:23:00 -
[92]
Wow Thats an incredible increase of voter turn out but the fact that only 12.67% where involved is still a bit disheartening. T_T I can't wate to see the results tomorrow.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.25 13:00:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
Originally by: Sokratesz
I seriously doubt that you will ever see political parties in EVE remotely resembling RL ones. Take care after all is just 'Ankh Inc.'
(this will only make sense to dutch players)
To be fair, isn't the PVV simply 'Wilders Inc.'?
Yeah but he isn't a party in the classical sense and should be taken as serious as Ankh, too..
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N1ko Belic
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Posted - 2010.05.25 14:29:00 -
[94]
I voted abstain all all 4 of my accounts as i have done every time.
The CSM is full of powerblocks making sure they have there rep(s) in Hell the NC even sent mails out to coordinate who was to vote for who.
Much like in RL it doesnt matter who you vote for the crap still get in
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Meissa Anunthiel
Redshift Industrial
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.05.25 15:50:00 -
[95]
Originally by: N1ko Belic
I voted abstain all all 4 of my accounts as i have done every time.
The CSM is full of powerblocks making sure they have there rep(s) in Hell the NC even sent mails out to coordinate who was to vote for who.
Much like in RL it doesnt matter who you vote for the crap still get in
If your reason for not voting is that the CSM is full of powerbloc representative, wouldn't the logical course of action be to vote for a candidate that is not in a powerbloc?
Self-fulfilling prophecy and all that...
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.05.25 17:34:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: N1ko Belic
I voted abstain all all 4 of my accounts as i have done every time.
The CSM is full of powerblocks making sure they have there rep(s) in Hell the NC even sent mails out to coordinate who was to vote for who.
Much like in RL it doesnt matter who you vote for the crap still get in
If your reason for not voting is that the CSM is full of powerbloc representative, wouldn't the logical course of action be to vote for a candidate that is not in a powerbloc?
Self-fulfilling prophecy and all that...
^^^^^^^^^
Even better, vote for someone in a corp all to themself. 
-T'amber
SHIPS OF EVE FIVE
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Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.05.25 20:05:00 -
[97]
Originally by: T'Amber
Originally by: Meissa Anunthiel
Originally by: N1ko Belic
I voted abstain all all 4 of my accounts as i have done every time.
The CSM is full of powerblocks making sure they have there rep(s) in Hell the NC even sent mails out to coordinate who was to vote for who.
Much like in RL it doesnt matter who you vote for the crap still get in
If your reason for not voting is that the CSM is full of powerbloc representative, wouldn't the logical course of action be to vote for a candidate that is not in a powerbloc?
Self-fulfilling prophecy and all that...
^^^^^^^^^
Even better, vote for someone in a corp all to themself.
-T'amber
Or better yet, an NPC corp!
My CSM Election Announcement
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Cinori Aluben
Minmatar
Gladiators of Rage
Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.26 01:55:00 -
[98]
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Cinori Aluben -- CSM 2010!!
"Fix the Little Things First!"
http://www.littlethingsfirst.com |
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CCP Diagoras
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.26 09:56:00 -
[99]
Full results can now be read in this dev blog.
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CCP Diagoras
Research and Statistics |
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.05.26 10:55:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 24/05/2010 09:37:39
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Sokratesz
And if you still think that the CSM is a 'pr-stunt' or 'ineffective at accomplishing anything', you have but to thank your own voluntary ignorance.
Calling on your proof.
Please supply that which you have chosen to accept as proof, since you cannot provide any actual real proof.
I was going to just call you a troll and let it be but since this is going on eve-search for evah, and others might find it some day and may wonder the same thing genuinly, I'm actually going to bother looking up some proof for you:
General information about CSM
Members of CSM4
Many other important links
CSM4 Iceland meeting minutes
Xhagen's blog about CSM4
Future of the CSM
None of that is proof.
1. It's marketting not pr. PR was when Hilmar promised a solution to the T20 problem in the new york times. Marketing is the CSM.
2. CCP developed Eve long before the CSM they never wanted us to have.
3. I see you're in line for a free holiday, and your bias couldn't be more obvious therefore.
4. That's why you think any of that is proof of anything. Which it absolutely is not.
Can the lies please stop?
Your ridiculous attempt at providing proof has missed out the following important issues that do not suit your new free holiday:-
1. CCP never mentioned anything about CSMs until they got caught sponsoring cheating by a whistleblower who got banned.
2. CCP promised a strong independent CSM that could and would ensure T20 could never happen again.
3. CCP introduced a weak marketing exercise called the CSM and promised at release that it will NEVER be able to force CCP into any action at all ever under any circumstances.
4. CCP have developed and continue to develop Eve Online without regard for what the CSM has to say, which is how it should be.
Thus far, the only thing we can say with absolute certainty about the CSM is that is has actually ENABLED key people to cheat ironically the opposite of what we were originally told it would be for.
And before you start crying, you seem to be good at internet searching, but maybe now is a good time to start practising looking up information you don't like. |
Fatmarrow
Minmatar
Galactic-Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.26 13:17:00 -
[101]
I would like to take this opportunity to say congratulations to all of the successful candidates in the CSM elections.
It was a very enlightening process and I would salute those candidates who put a lot of effort into their campaign (win or lose) and those rose above the mud-slinging to provide interesting debate. I may not be flying to Iceland (on someone else's dollar anyway) but I hope I can help in some way with the CSM process regardless. Good luck guys :)
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.26 13:30:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Sokratesz on 26/05/2010 13:31:04
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 24/05/2010 09:37:39
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Sokratesz
And if you still think that the CSM is a 'pr-stunt' or 'ineffective at accomplishing anything', you have but to thank your own voluntary ignorance.
Calling on your proof.
Please supply that which you have chosen to accept as proof, since you cannot provide any actual real proof.
I was going to just call you a troll and let it be but since this is going on eve-search for evah, and others might find it some day and may wonder the same thing genuinly, I'm actually going to bother looking up some proof for you:
General information about CSM
Members of CSM4
Many other important links
CSM4 Iceland meeting minutes
Xhagen's blog about CSM4
Future of the CSM
None of that is proof.
1. It's marketting not pr. PR was when Hilmar promised a solution to the T20 problem in the new york times. Marketing is the CSM.
2. CCP developed Eve long before the CSM they never wanted us to have.
3. I see you're in line for a free holiday, and your bias couldn't be more obvious therefore.
4. That's why you think any of that is proof of anything. Which it absolutely is not.
Can the lies please stop?
Your ridiculous attempt at providing proof has missed out the following important issues that do not suit your new free holiday:-
1. CCP never mentioned anything about CSMs until they got caught sponsoring cheating by a whistleblower who got banned.
2. CCP promised a strong independent CSM that could and would ensure T20 could never happen again.
3. CCP introduced a weak marketing exercise called the CSM and promised at release that it will NEVER be able to force CCP into any action at all ever under any circumstances.
4. CCP have developed and continue to develop Eve Online without regard for what the CSM has to say, which is how it should be.
Thus far, the only thing we can say with absolute certainty about the CSM is that is has actually ENABLED key people to cheat ironically the opposite of what we were originally told it would be for.
And before you start crying, you seem to be good at internet searching, but maybe now is a good time to start practising looking up information you don't like.
Did I mention you are wrong on several points? No? Because you sure as hell are, but don't let that change your view of things.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.05.26 14:53:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 26/05/2010 14:00:21
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
None of that is proof.
1. It's marketting not pr. PR was when Hilmar promised a solution to the T20 problem in the new york times. Marketing is the CSM.
2. CCP developed Eve long before the CSM they never wanted us to have.
3. I see you're in line for a free holiday, and your bias couldn't be more obvious therefore.
4. That's why you think any of that is proof of anything. Which it absolutely is not.
Can the lies please stop?
Your ridiculous attempt at providing proof has missed out the following important issues that do not suit your new free holiday:-
1. CCP never mentioned anything about CSMs until they got caught sponsoring cheating by a whistleblower who got banned.
2. CCP promised a strong independent CSM that could and would ensure T20 could never happen again.
3. CCP introduced a weak marketing exercise called the CSM and promised at release that it will NEVER be able to force CCP into any action at all ever under any circumstances.
4. CCP have developed and continue to develop Eve Online without regard for what the CSM has to say, which is how it should be.
Thus far, the only thing we can say with absolute certainty about the CSM is that is has actually ENABLED key people to cheat ironically the opposite of what we were originally told it would be for.
And before you start crying, you seem to be good at internet searching, but maybe now is a good time to start practising looking up information you don't like.
Did I mention yet that you are wrong on several points? No? Because you sure as hell are, but don't let that change your view of things.
It used to be the first to say "troll" wins. Now it is attempted that the first person who says "Hater" wins.
In reality, both have always been capitulation. Thanks for conceding. You could have done it in a way so that your less intelligent fanboiz could understand it though.
Hopefully they can see it.
Claim Victory.
Say Hater.
Run like hell.
Feel free to look up and understand things you don't want to read. Try it some time. It will make you more powerful.
Though it's certainly not a requirement to get on a plane to Iceland and have long conversations about what colour toilet paper CCP should use, or perhaps some topics that CCP will simply ignore anyway.
Bye bye small fry.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.26 15:19:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
In reality, both have always been capitulation. Thanks for conceding. You could have done it in a way so that your less intelligent fanboiz could understand it though.
Hopefully they can see it.
Claim Victory.
Say Hater.
Run like hell.
Feel free to look up and understand things you don't want to read. Try it some time. It will make you more powerful.
Though it's certainly not a requirement to get on a plane to Iceland and have long conversations about what colour toilet paper CCP should use, or perhaps some topics that CCP will simply ignore anyway.
Since you cannot be bothered to educate yourself about the topic at hand, I feel no need to make any effort towards you. Your cheap shots at me and the CSM are mere symptoms of your voluntary ignorance.
Some people will just hate the concept of the CSM, which is fine. In the meantime I will be trying to actually use the tools that CCP have handed us in order to improve the game for everyone.
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Bye bye small fry.
Contrary to Ankh and her puzzle pirates, I am actually relevant in EVE.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:51:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
In reality, both have always been capitulation. Thanks for conceding. You could have done it in a way so that your less intelligent fanboiz could understand it though.
Hopefully they can see it.
Claim Victory.
Say Hater.
Run like hell.
Feel free to look up and understand things you don't want to read. Try it some time. It will make you more powerful.
Though it's certainly not a requirement to get on a plane to Iceland and have long conversations about what colour toilet paper CCP should use, or perhaps some topics that CCP will simply ignore anyway.
Since you cannot be bothered to educate yourself about the topic at hand, I feel no need to make any effort towards you. Your cheap shots at me and the CSM are mere symptoms of your voluntary ignorance.
Some people will just hate the concept of the CSM, which is fine. In the meantime I will be trying to actually use the tools that CCP have handed us in order to improve the game for everyone.
Your assertion that I am not educated is incorrect. To be honest, if I had your skills and your bias, I too would scream soundbites and hide from a clearly superior opponent. Since you have chosen that stance, could you do it quietly?
You won't be improving Eve at all. It's really that simple. CCP will be improving Eve. You'll be getting patted on the head and you will be told by your idols that you are doing really well, but you won't be achieving a single thing that you will comprehend.
If you think different, try changing something CCP don't want you anywhere near. Go on... I know you won't. Ankh won't get her weird ideas implemented. It simply won't happen.
Unfortunately this tactic is entirely contractory to your blind insistence that you are now empowered. You will not see your next year of utter pointlessness and failure as anything other than unlimited power to wield over Eve. There is plenty of counter to your bizarre assertions, but until you have grown to the point where you can counter your own argument, you will remain as weak as you appear today.
Just keep it simple. Say "troll" say "hater" and walk away. It's pretty much all you're any use for. Which is ample qualification for the CSM.
It's clear you NEED the last word, and frankly, since you're part of CCP's marketing machine now, and I refuse to carry that role for them, I'm the one about to be forum banned if I continue this any further, you'd better just take that last word and make it sizzle yeah? You got a legion of CSM fanboiz just waiting for you to BURN the heretic publicly.
Go ahead small fry. Make me burn.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.26 21:24:00 -
[106]
Le sigh 
Wear tinfoil to fanfest..or CCP might get into your head and make you think they actually mean well.
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Dlardrageth
ANZAC ALLIANCE
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.27 11:51:00 -
[107]
Originally by: CCP Diagoras
Full results can now be read in this dev blog.
Since when is it "full results", when you don't list the votes for those candidates that didn't make CSM or alternate slots? Kinda weird... just saying... 
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.05.27 14:10:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Dlardrageth
Originally by: CCP Diagoras
Full results can now be read in this dev blog.
Since when is it "full results", when you don't list the votes for those candidates that didn't make CSM or alternate slots? Kinda weird... just saying...
At the left of the forum open up Eve Insider / CSM / Results (need to be logged in).
Would be nice if the link was in the devblog but they were at least released.
TeaDaze.net |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.27 21:26:00 -
[109]
Originally by: TeaDaze
Originally by: Dlardrageth
Originally by: CCP Diagoras
Full results can now be read in this dev blog.
Since when is it "full results", when you don't list the votes for those candidates that didn't make CSM or alternate slots? Kinda weird... just saying...
At the left of the forum open up Eve Insider / CSM / Results (need to be logged in).
Would be nice if the link was in the devblog but they were at least released.
Took me a few minutes to figure that out yesterday =P
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