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Ununtrium
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Posted - 2010.07.23 00:39:00 -
[2461]
Supported. Keep hope alive.
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Krilgen Bex
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Posted - 2010.07.23 01:13:00 -
[2462]
It's time.
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.23 03:04:00 -
[2463]
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Garen Ragnek
Rionnag Alba
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.07.23 12:40:00 -
[2464]
Signed |
FlightGlobal
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Posted - 2010.07.23 15:18:00 -
[2465]
Total agreement.
You can't expand if what U have doesn't work.
Stop the sidelines (ambulation/consol fps) and instead of trying to recruit new gamers FIX THE GAME FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY SPEND MONEY TO PLAY IT NOW.
Apart from anything else- what is going to happen if all these new things have their desired effect and suddenly we have peaks of 75k or even 100k. Eve lag happens now at 50k
CCP FIX YOUR FIRST GAME BEFORE YOU START LOOSING YOUR CORE PLAYER BASE!!!
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Lilou Dallas
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.07.23 17:46:00 -
[2466]
Bumping this incredibly important proposal.
Come on CCP, work with us! Please!
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Ekoplex Vherokior
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Posted - 2010.07.23 17:46:00 -
[2467]
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.07.23 20:34:00 -
[2468]
Yes, it is always fail when CCP announces something, then it comes time to deliver and we get some watered down POS that does crap half of what it was supposed to do and has lots of problems/bugs.
PS: 5 minute time delay is so overdue to be gone, gee CCP still couldn't get anyone to tackle that eh?
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Drifnir
Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.24 14:51:00 -
[2469]
bumpage
I sure hope CCP is listening and the chutzpah to follow through on some badly needed polish work.
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Nurahdin
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Posted - 2010.07.24 15:47:00 -
[2470]
+10
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alloutofbubblegum
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Posted - 2010.07.24 21:42:00 -
[2471]
I wanted to post on this thread with an account that will no longer be renewing subscription because of the pile of broken features.
And now I have.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.25 01:07:00 -
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Man, I'm not sure if you guys at CCP are paying attention, but it looks like your players don't care about Incarna and Dust as much as you hoped, or do...it almost...ALMOST looks like they want your attention spent on other issues..I don't know, I've been wrong before...but I have a feeling about this.
But hey, its your paycheck, ruin it anyway you want.
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Brutus B
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Posted - 2010.07.25 06:25:00 -
[2473]
 Originally by: Grath Telkin
Man, I'm not sure if you guys at CCP are paying attention, but it looks like your players don't care about Incarna and Dust as much as you hoped, or do...it almost...ALMOST looks like they want your attention spent on other issues..I don't know, I've been wrong before...but I have a feeling about this.
But hey, its your paycheck, ruin it anyway you want.
Should it be pointed out that Dust isn't being made for EVE players. I mean, if EVE players want to play with Dust great, if not, fine. It's targeting a different demo on a different plateform.
Incarna, also, will likely bring back old players that left eve because they anticpated WIS much sooner, and left EVE in protest. Also, if Incaran is done right, I think they are hoping to appeal more to a female audience which might increase their subscription base.
WOD whenever it comes out, won't be targeting anyone who is currently playing eve or dust at the time, though it will be open to them, it will be focused on creating a new market/player base for CCP..
If those products are successful, Dust, and WOD could double/tripple CCP's revenue. No game company can expect to survive off a single game forever. The fact that CCP has survived on EVE alone for so long is remarkable. And CCP is smart to diversify while EVE still has a robust subscriber base. Hopefully, EVE as at least as many years ahead as it does behind it. But, you don't hang your hat up on hope in business. Instead, you make plans, and create you own opportunities for growth, and CCP's best way to reach brand new customers is to develop new games.
To retain old customers, of course they should continue balancing, and they should fix bugs, and keep interest in eve high by adding new content to it and tweaking current in game features. And they do that, as those things become available. Every patch is all about that, and every major expansion has some patch like adjustments. Just because there is no major emphasis on it, doesn't mean there isn't a team or two taksed with working on performance/debugging/exploit/balance issues. SOMEONE at CCP is ALWAYS working on those issues.
I think the whole CSM minutes thing was miscommunicated, and was misunderstood very badly. And while the fallout might be a good kick in the ass for CCP to bump up some issues they've qued up forever ago; but a lot of bull**** is getting thrown in for good measure. IT would be bad for everyone if every bad idea that appears on these forums stuck to this issue as needed "improvements" to lowsec/nullsec, etc.
PS: If you want to know what DEV's are saying, and paying attention to, use the Dev Finder featuer on this website, and you will get shortcut links to all of their forum posts.
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Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.25 11:16:00 -
[2474]
Originally by: Brutus B
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Man, I'm not sure if you guys at CCP are paying attention, but it looks like your players don't care about Incarna and Dust as much as you hoped, or do...it almost...ALMOST looks like they want your attention spent on other issues..I don't know, I've been wrong before...but I have a feeling about this.
But hey, its your paycheck, ruin it anyway you want.
Should it be pointed out that Dust isn't being made for EVE players. I mean, if EVE players want to play with Dust great, if not, fine. It's targeting a different demo on a different platform.
That's a very reasonable point but it should also be remembered that Dust isn't making them any money. Investing income from EVE to develop other EVE-related games is fine, it's a good basic strategy and I think CCP are smart to do it.
But neglecting the source of their income - and tarnishing the core game on which these others depend* - yeah, not so smart.
MMOs are about investment, The player invests his time, effort and emotional energy in to the game, because MMOs reward that. Threaten that investment by neglecting bugs that compromise gameplay and leave players with the perception that things will only get worse, and what do you have? A UI that makes us all nostalgic for Windows For Workgroups, and a RTS miningame with NPC AI that would make the guys who programmed Doom go "meh".
* Make no mistake, Dust's success absolutely depends on EVE continuing to thrive. If CCP refocus on polishing EVE, then I'm mildly optimistic about Dust. I don't think it will ever really challenge Halo or the other top-tier games, but it could give CCP a steady second income without cannibalizing their existing players. I know CCP said that Dust can work without EVE, but take away the EVE connection and what do you have left? Just another late to the party console shooter that has to compete against the likes of Halokind, which has an annual advertising budget equal to about 3 years of CCP's turnover, and a huge established player-base.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Veldah
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Posted - 2010.07.25 12:56:00 -
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A post of excellence right there.
Is CCP striving to become like Blizzard? Make games for cash and not for players. But wait ... Blizz doesn't release half baked stuff.
I have many concerns about the game and currently the only thing that keeps me playing are awesome people I've met in the game.
My main concern is the UI as this is where the interaction with the game starts. It is trurly dreadful ... worst UI of all games of all time. You should get a award for the dreadful UI of yours CCP.
First of all the dreaded clicking. Redesign it so that more than half of the commands can be issued from the keyboard. Do you want mass RSI epidemic? Who's gonna play the game then ...
Ergonomy is on its ass and crying. Lack of customization whatsoever. Why cannot we place whatever we want wherever we want? Its like using windows 1.0 while the current standard is linux with compiz or the like.
Why can't I remove the toolbar from the left or place it on top, bottom, or the left side. Why cannot you implement a feature that displays everyone who's jamming me and what kind of stuff is coming at me. Why can't I place my targets like on the sides or totally redesign module placement.
I mean cmoooooooooooooooon, there is so much wrong with the UI only that I don't know where to start.
CCP, no sweet PR bull**** nor honey glazed marketing talk will blind your players. Your playersbase is not stupid and you will start losing them if you don't stop fake sugar icing and start fixing the game according to our feedback.
More to come ...
Dierdra Vaal, I salute you.
Full support.
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Caratacos
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Posted - 2010.07.25 14:08:00 -
[2476]
I'll love you whatever you do, CCP.
But it would be pretty cool if some of the features in that old mmo you were working on, EVE, got another look. That would be extra special.
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angulion
Five Level Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.07.25 17:05:00 -
[2477]
Supported 100%!
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Brutus B
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Posted - 2010.07.25 17:54:00 -
[2478]
Originally by: Veldah
A post of excellence right there.
My main concern is the UI as this is where the interaction with the game starts. It is trurly dreadful ... worst UI of all games of all time. You should get a award for the dreadful UI of yours CCP.
First of all the dreaded clicking. Redesign it so that more than half of the commands can be issued from the keyboard. Do you want mass RSI epidemic? Who's gonna play the game then ...
Ergonomy is on its ass and crying. Lack of customization whatsoever. Why cannot we place whatever we want wherever we want? Its like using windows 1.0 while the current standard is linux with compiz or the like.
Why can't I remove the toolbar from the left or place it on top, bottom, or the left side. Why cannot you implement a feature that displays everyone who's jamming me and what kind of stuff is coming at me. Why can't I place my targets like on the sides or totally redesign module placement.
Full support.
IF you're talking about PI clicking, you may have a point that it could use some hotkeys, etc., but the game I play lets me avoid clicking in terms of activitating mods on my ship. You can even set some drone commands onto hotkeys, though this part could be improved. You can even control ship speed using hotkeys. (Though I don't think you can change directions using them currently.)
And I get to see "what's coming after me" on my overview, because I see if they are using a scam, or disruptor, or ecm, or dampner, or vamp, or nuet.... it's there in the overview. If you're not seeing that, your playing eve wrong! :-D
I do wish they'd allow camera control for the dir keys, this would be great for precise directional scanning, and a method to hit the scan without clicking. And they could use secondary number keys for changing direction by artificially double clicking the related corner of the screen for you. So, your point is not without merit.
But, EVE has such a massively open interface, that you can't absoultely hotkey everything and allow ppl to still talk trash in local. I've actually done some work on control mapping before to suit my own expectations for other games with ****ty controls. And from that hobby-level learning experience, I'm pretty sure you would have to instance the market, and assets, and all that other crap, instead of intergrating them ontop of the primary UI if players want a hot key for absolutely every possible command in the game. And I'm not sure players would like that option any better than the current one since multi-tasking is a regularity in eve.
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mayefaerie
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Posted - 2010.07.25 19:41:00 -
[2479]
Supported.
I want my SPACE SHIP GAME to work properly, I dont give a rats about the planets.
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Soleil Fournier
UNFAITHFUL SHADOWS
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Posted - 2010.07.25 23:23:00 -
[2480]
CCP need to absolutely take a step back and look at things.
Dominion was a flop -
There has been very little 00 space changing hands since dominion was released.
There has been no alliance sprawl reduction, which was a key goal.
Treaties were not introduced, which are a critical component.
The promised "Continuous Improvements to the system" are not happening.
That isn't excellence to me, regardless of the number of resources allocated.
Faction Warfare, Lowsec, and Fixing the problems in 00 once and for all should be 3 high priorities of CCP, yet we don't see them prioritized at all.
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Perrigrene
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Posted - 2010.07.26 12:08:00 -
[2481]
What we've all seen has been confirmed in the most awesome minutes ever posted on a series of tubes.
CCP doesn't care about the CSM and hence players concerns or ideas, they are merely filler when the direction CCP takes goes that way AND *IF* it isn't too hard/complicated/costly/fits with what they want/etc they *MIGHT* do it.
That's all we get, for all the time and effort of all the ideas/suggestions players have come up with, worked on etc that is all their efforts are 'worth' to CCP.
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Arbet Klallam
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:47:00 -
[2482]
Supported 100%.
Please fix my spaceships.
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Savion Marquis
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.07.27 00:48:00 -
[2483]
+1
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Harris Dorn
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:04:00 -
[2484]
Supported.
Well developed content that isn't rushed to make a deadline worked on by a sufficient number of people so that they don't feel they are being forced to make it work no matter what or compromise on the quality of their work would be great. Otherwise why bother hiring people with experience as the jobs they are looking to fill are, just hire anybody and put them to work making whatever thing they can crank out in the time frame you give them.
I'll be the first to move to Iceland collect 3 free accounts and put together a broken component of the game for a paycheck.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:18:00 -
[2485]
I'm totally running for the next CSM.
Talk about a free trip to Iceland with no strings attached. CCP came right out and said they aren't working on Eve for over a year.
Nothing left to do but get drunk in a beautiful country with a group of guys that love eve as much as you do and would try to fix it if their bosses let them. 
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Players are losing faith and loyalty in CCP due previous expansions not living up to player expectations. The CSM and CCP agreed that expectation management can be improved |
Tau'ViRee
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Posted - 2010.07.27 01:23:00 -
[2486]
And my axe!
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Kireiina
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Posted - 2010.07.27 07:53:00 -
[2487]
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Kyle Cataclysm
Blue.
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Posted - 2010.07.27 10:27:00 -
[2488]
:up:
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CynoAlt 8675309
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Posted - 2010.07.27 16:35:00 -
[2489]
This thread will not die!
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islador
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Posted - 2010.07.27 18:56:00 -
[2490]
Most definitely supported, take a note from blizzard, theres a reason they dominate every market they step into.
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