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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:02:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Solant
Originally by: Seleene
Okay, I admit to being completely out of the know here.
Why were these ships given back? Some sort of server lag? Exploits? What's the deal?
I'm surprised CCP has not issued an official statement on this. Or have they? 
They are giving the ships back en masse to clear out the massive, stinking pile of petitions they have in their queue right now. This is basically the easy, dirty way out of a massive problem.
They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:02:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Solant
Originally by: Seleene
Okay, I admit to being completely out of the know here.
Why were these ships given back? Some sort of server lag? Exploits? What's the deal?
I'm surprised CCP has not issued an official statement on this. Or have they?
They are giving the ships back en masse to clear out the massive, stinking pile of petitions they have in their queue right now. This is basically the easy, dirty way out of a massive problem.
They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Cayote XIII
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:09:00 -
[63]
Don't know why you guys would be complaining, gives you more ships to kill...
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Cayote XIII
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:09:00 -
[64]
Don't know why you guys would be complaining, gives you more ships to kill...
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:10:00 -
[65]
That'd assume killing the same guys over and over was the point. It's not.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:10:00 -
[66]
That'd assume killing the same guys over and over was the point. It's not.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
MortyM
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:18:00 -
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What a great way to balance the game, give all those people that are dumb enough to lose a ship a new one so they can try again and improve thair skills \o/
wtg CPP 
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MortyM
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:18:00 -
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What a great way to balance the game, give all those people that are dumb enough to lose a ship a new one so they can try again and improve thair skills \o/
wtg CPP
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:18:00 -
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Don't see many PA in this thread - weird.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Vegeta
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:18:00 -
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Don't see many PA in this thread - weird.
2005.04.25 16:40:42 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II perfectly strikes LawrenceNewton [WARAG], wrecking for 2706.9 damage.
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Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:20:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Wraeththu on 09/12/2004 20:25:42
Look at it this way. There's a whole nother ship you can blast. It's like someone just restocked the pond.
I didn't get anything back, but it doesn't bother me much.
Hey CCP or PA Could you guys maybe re-stock the safespots? My cruiser stocks are down into like single digits now.
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TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:20:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Wraeththu on 09/12/2004 20:25:42
Look at it this way. There's a whole nother ship you can blast. It's like someone just restocked the pond.
I didn't get anything back, but it doesn't bother me much.
Hey CCP or PA Could you guys maybe re-stock the safespots? My cruiser stocks are down into like single digits now.
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TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:23:00 -
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It will probably lenghen the duration of the northern war(s) for a bit Wraeth and thats kinda sucky if you've been waiting for a result.
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:23:00 -
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It will probably lenghen the duration of the northern war(s) for a bit Wraeth and thats kinda sucky if you've been waiting for a result.
Star Fraction
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:25:00 -
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"They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money."
There's probably quite a number of people who spent that insurance money they got on their new ship and modules. So you'd have situation where some people with enough money to take the "******* insurance" from them lose their money, and some who don't have enough because they already spent it don't lose anything... just one more reason for people to whine how unfair CCP is.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:25:00 -
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"They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money."
There's probably quite a number of people who spent that insurance money they got on their new ship and modules. So you'd have situation where some people with enough money to take the "******* insurance" from them lose their money, and some who don't have enough because they already spent it don't lose anything... just one more reason for people to whine how unfair CCP is.
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Solant
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:27:00 -
[77]
Originally by: j0sephine
"They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money."
There's probably quite a number of people who spent that insurance money they got on their new ship and modules. So you'd have situation where some people with enough money to take the "******* insurance" from them lose their money, and some who don't have enough because they already spent it don't lose anything... just one more reason for people to whine how unfair CCP is.
Easily solved.. give them the option to purchase their ship for the cost of their insurance payout.. Or.. wait for it.. they can sell their ship for even more !
Genius isnt it.
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Solant
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:27:00 -
[78]
Originally by: j0sephine
"They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money."
There's probably quite a number of people who spent that insurance money they got on their new ship and modules. So you'd have situation where some people with enough money to take the "******* insurance" from them lose their money, and some who don't have enough because they already spent it don't lose anything... just one more reason for people to whine how unfair CCP is.
Easily solved.. give them the option to purchase their ship for the cost of their insurance payout.. Or.. wait for it.. they can sell their ship for even more !
Genius isnt it.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:29:00 -
[79]
Exactly.
From a situation which was close to being settles, it's thrown it all open again.
CCP have ****** over the overall alliance strategic situation. Worse, they did it because they were LAZY. What happens next time something goes wrong?
It's a VERY bad precident to set
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:29:00 -
[80]
Exactly.
From a situation which was close to being settles, it's thrown it all open again.
CCP have ****** over the overall alliance strategic situation. Worse, they did it because they were LAZY. What happens next time something goes wrong?
It's a VERY bad precident to set
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
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Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:29:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
It will probably lenghen the duration of the northern war(s) for a bit Wraeth and thats kinda sucky if you've been waiting for a result.
It's just pruning anyway.
The closed-space alliance issue is a conceptual virus. It infects the weak and forces them into paranoid dilusions.
Blowing up their ship only really forces them down 'under ground' (aka, back to empire) for a bit. The roots are still there waiting to regrow when the lawn-mower leaves, as their mindset hasn't changed any.
So, realistically, while the destruction of ships is important to progress, it isn't until it's tempered with education that any improvement can happen.
Unfortunatly, it would appear that most of the residents of the World of Eve prefer to learn things the "hard" way, and so CCP just held them back a grade.
Welcome to 2nd grade again.
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TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
Wraeththu
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:29:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
It will probably lenghen the duration of the northern war(s) for a bit Wraeth and thats kinda sucky if you've been waiting for a result.
It's just pruning anyway.
The closed-space alliance issue is a conceptual virus. It infects the weak and forces them into paranoid dilusions.
Blowing up their ship only really forces them down 'under ground' (aka, back to empire) for a bit. The roots are still there waiting to regrow when the lawn-mower leaves, as their mindset hasn't changed any.
So, realistically, while the destruction of ships is important to progress, it isn't until it's tempered with education that any improvement can happen.
Unfortunatly, it would appear that most of the residents of the World of Eve prefer to learn things the "hard" way, and so CCP just held them back a grade.
Welcome to 2nd grade again.
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TomB: End the speed-race. 1 propulsion mod allowed, make turrets affect ship attributes like +speed/+ab speed +agil for progressivly smaller/lighter turrets, -speed/-ab speed -agil for long-range. |
Damajink
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:30:00 -
[83]
Rollback? Eh?
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:30:00 -
[84]
Rollback? Eh?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:31:00 -
[85]
Originally by: j0sephine
"They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money."
There's probably quite a number of people who spent that insurance money they got on their new ship and modules. So you'd have situation where some people with enough money to take the "******* insurance" from them lose their money, and some who don't have enough because they already spent it don't lose anything... just one more reason for people to whine how unfair CCP is.
The really ironic thing would be if they now got loads of petitions from people about ammo usage on miraculously replaced ships. I dunno, it was clearly a bad petition load and all that, but I can't help but think sticking by the disclaimer:
"new patch be careful out there, don't drive expensive ships unless you are prepared to lose them"
Would have been much healthier for the game in the long run.
Now every time someone loses a ship in dubious circumstances they can actually go "whhhaaaa whhaaaa (you replaced billions of ships to alliance warriors etc)... (and those weren't even lost to bugs!) whaaaahahahaha!" etc.
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"They should at LEAST take the ******* insurance money."
There's probably quite a number of people who spent that insurance money they got on their new ship and modules. So you'd have situation where some people with enough money to take the "******* insurance" from them lose their money, and some who don't have enough because they already spent it don't lose anything... just one more reason for people to whine how unfair CCP is.
The really ironic thing would be if they now got loads of petitions from people about ammo usage on miraculously replaced ships. I dunno, it was clearly a bad petition load and all that, but I can't help but think sticking by the disclaimer:
"new patch be careful out there, don't drive expensive ships unless you are prepared to lose them"
Would have been much healthier for the game in the long run.
Now every time someone loses a ship in dubious circumstances they can actually go "whhhaaaa whhaaaa (you replaced billions of ships to alliance warriors etc)... (and those weren't even lost to bugs!) whaaaahahahaha!" etc.
Star Fraction
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:32:00 -
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"Easily solved.. give them the option to purchase their ship for the cost of their insurance payout.. Or.. wait for it.. they can sell their ship for even more !
Genius isnt it."
And who is going to sit and overwatch every single case like that? The whole cluster**** started with the attempt to reduce current workload on the game staff... o.O;
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:32:00 -
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"Easily solved.. give them the option to purchase their ship for the cost of their insurance payout.. Or.. wait for it.. they can sell their ship for even more !
Genius isnt it."
And who is going to sit and overwatch every single case like that? The whole cluster**** started with the attempt to reduce current workload on the game staff... o.O;
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:33:00 -
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So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?
Who's going to compensate the pvp corps for the players they WILL lose because of this?
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:33:00 -
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So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?
Who's going to compensate the pvp corps for the players they WILL lose because of this?
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
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