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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Maya Rkell
So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?
Who's going to compensate the pvp corps for the players they WILL lose because of this?
Speaking sensibly for a moment, nobody should leave because of this fiasco. Its not going to make the losers of ships in alliance wars any better at fighting so the re-run of the contest is just going to be the same in the long run. Its certainly annoying and smacks of the game designers upping the handicap for the successful players, but hey, whatever, I suppose it means everyone can collect two sets of loot from the "risen from the dead" battleships of those guys.
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Maya Rkell
So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?
Who's going to compensate the pvp corps for the players they WILL lose because of this?
Speaking sensibly for a moment, nobody should leave because of this fiasco. Its not going to make the losers of ships in alliance wars any better at fighting so the re-run of the contest is just going to be the same in the long run. Its certainly annoying and smacks of the game designers upping the handicap for the successful players, but hey, whatever, I suppose it means everyone can collect two sets of loot from the "risen from the dead" battleships of those guys.
Star Fraction
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MdKharaa
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:37:00 -
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Heh, what a mess.
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MdKharaa
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:37:00 -
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Heh, what a mess.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:38:00 -
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of course PA arent whining coz they got ******* tons of money for this for free. All our efforts that night have gone down the drain. They had the same 30 minutes window to leave and log off as we did, we didnt coz we know we'd pwn them. They chose to stay and fight so they should reap the consequences!!!!!!. 30 minutes is a long time.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:38:00 -
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of course PA arent whining coz they got ******* tons of money for this for free. All our efforts that night have gone down the drain. They had the same 30 minutes window to leave and log off as we did, we didnt coz we know we'd pwn them. They chose to stay and fight so they should reap the consequences!!!!!!. 30 minutes is a long time.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:39:00 -
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Just kill 'em again harder Leitari and roll your eyes while doing it 
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:39:00 -
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Just kill 'em again harder Leitari and roll your eyes while doing it
Star Fraction
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:40:00 -
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"So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?"
Because you have no guarantee that the ship insurance can be reliably, automatically pulled from every single player involved, due to some people no longer having the insurance money on them. So if you try to pull it server wide, you wind up with taking it from some but not from all, thus causing even more uproar how some got it better than others not once but twice...
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:40:00 -
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"So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?"
Because you have no guarantee that the ship insurance can be reliably, automatically pulled from every single player involved, due to some people no longer having the insurance money on them. So if you try to pull it server wide, you wind up with taking it from some but not from all, thus causing even more uproar how some got it better than others not once but twice...
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:40:00 -
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oh and why are they getting this? coz they probably had their entire fricking alliance ***** whine like little school girls on a Justin timberlake concerts and then whined alot more like ******* *****es. ****
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:40:00 -
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oh and why are they getting this? coz they probably had their entire fricking alliance ***** whine like little school girls on a Justin timberlake concerts and then whined alot more like ******* *****es. ****
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Leitari
oh and why are they getting this? coz they probably had their entire fricking alliance ***** whine like little school girls on a Justin timberlake concerts and then whined alot more like ******* *****es. ****
Yep Leitari but let me tell you a secret ... winners don't whine 
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Leitari
oh and why are they getting this? coz they probably had their entire fricking alliance ***** whine like little school girls on a Justin timberlake concerts and then whined alot more like ******* *****es. ****
Yep Leitari but let me tell you a secret ... winners don't whine
Star Fraction
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:44:00 -
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oh and by giving them these resources you're fiddling with ingame politics and may even change the course of events in this game drasticly. isnt that something that should be avoided??? why didnt you just add some game time to everyones account????? ************ sucking mother******* **********ing asslicking ********S.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:44:00 -
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oh and by giving them these resources you're fiddling with ingame politics and may even change the course of events in this game drasticly. isnt that something that should be avoided??? why didnt you just add some game time to everyones account????? ************ sucking mother******* **********ing asslicking ********S.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 09/12/2004 20:47:35
So you're sayuing that with NORMAL ship replacements they should check to see if the player has the ISK?
THEY DON'T.
Why should this be any different?
If you are left with negative ISK, TOUGH. Sell the ships, shrug. THAT is the usual CCP response. THERE SHOULD NEVER, EVER, BE AN EXCEPTION TO THIS.
This is a MAJOR slap in the face to a lot of people. And yes, people WILL be quitting over it. It's not "sensible" to make pvp corps fight enemies who now have the very ships they killed back, inflating their wealth. So they're BETTER off that before.
What you said makes sense if killing was the idea. It's not. It's *destroying* the enemy alliance. And this has basically put us back a LONG way.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 09/12/2004 20:47:35
So you're sayuing that with NORMAL ship replacements they should check to see if the player has the ISK?
THEY DON'T.
Why should this be any different?
If you are left with negative ISK, TOUGH. Sell the ships, shrug. THAT is the usual CCP response. THERE SHOULD NEVER, EVER, BE AN EXCEPTION TO THIS.
This is a MAJOR slap in the face to a lot of people. And yes, people WILL be quitting over it. It's not "sensible" to make pvp corps fight enemies who now have the very ships they killed back, inflating their wealth. So they're BETTER off that before.
What you said makes sense if killing was the idea. It's not. It's *destroying* the enemy alliance. And this has basically put us back a LONG way.
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?"
Because you have no guarantee that the ship insurance can be reliably, automatically pulled from every single player involved, due to some people no longer having the insurance money on them. So if you try to pull it server wide, you wind up with taking it from some but not from all, thus causing even more uproar how some got it better than others not once but twice...
Eeh no, they can pull it quite easily actually.
It's been done before, players just end up with a negative wallet if they don't ahve the cash anymore.
The simple fact that having a negative wallet is irritating just does not justify giving out free billions to groups of players that lost their ships under quite playable circumstances. After all, one the very same day alot of players fought and kileld those ships and did not die. Where is the justification for giving the ships back plz ?
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
"So why have they made it MORE of a cluster**** but not taking the ship insurance?"
Because you have no guarantee that the ship insurance can be reliably, automatically pulled from every single player involved, due to some people no longer having the insurance money on them. So if you try to pull it server wide, you wind up with taking it from some but not from all, thus causing even more uproar how some got it better than others not once but twice...
Eeh no, they can pull it quite easily actually.
It's been done before, players just end up with a negative wallet if they don't ahve the cash anymore.
The simple fact that having a negative wallet is irritating just does not justify giving out free billions to groups of players that lost their ships under quite playable circumstances. After all, one the very same day alot of players fought and kileld those ships and did not die. Where is the justification for giving the ships back plz ?
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:46:00 -
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PS ... serious thought guys, tone down the ranting and edit out the swearing or this thread is going to get locked and forgotten and that won't do anybody anygood at all.
Star Fraction
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:46:00 -
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PS ... serious thought guys, tone down the ranting and edit out the swearing or this thread is going to get locked and forgotten and that won't do anybody anygood at all.
Star Fraction
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 09/12/2004 21:02:22
"If you are left with negative ISK, TOUGH."
Can you actually have negative balance in the game or is it just guess? If it's possible then indeed no problem with it, just didn't think they allow it in game because having such 'feature' is another can of worms begging to be open... o.O
edit ok, just read Rod's reply on the subject so guess that answers it. ^^
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 09/12/2004 21:02:22
"If you are left with negative ISK, TOUGH."
Can you actually have negative balance in the game or is it just guess? If it's possible then indeed no problem with it, just didn't think they allow it in game because having such 'feature' is another can of worms begging to be open... o.O
edit ok, just read Rod's reply on the subject so guess that answers it. ^^
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:00:00 -
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Yes you can. You can't buy anything until you're back to positive ISK.
It's tough on people, but a LOT fairer than free ships
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:00:00 -
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Yes you can. You can't buy anything until you're back to positive ISK.
It's tough on people, but a LOT fairer than free ships
"As far as I can tell, It doesn't matter who you are, If you can believe there's something worth fighting for " - Garbage, "Parade" |
Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:00:00 -
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Bob quote "We want all FA, CA, BA, CIA, what not, all come to venal. This would be uber fun." Now PA, NSA, FU got all these free ships. Ffs you get to blow them up again.
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Rthor
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:00:00 -
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Bob quote "We want all FA, CA, BA, CIA, what not, all come to venal. This would be uber fun." Now PA, NSA, FU got all these free ships. Ffs you get to blow them up again.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:03:00 -
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The idea is to win in teh longrun, not jsut to blow up as many ships as we can.
We do have longterm goals here, and giving out billions to our enemies for stupid reasons isn't going to help alot.
(aside from the retarded answer Oveur just gave in devchat about this, which is total bull of course)
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.09 21:03:00 -
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The idea is to win in teh longrun, not jsut to blow up as many ships as we can.
We do have longterm goals here, and giving out billions to our enemies for stupid reasons isn't going to help alot.
(aside from the retarded answer Oveur just gave in devchat about this, which is total bull of course)
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