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Sophie Starsparrow Minmatar Ddial Chan Annwn Annwn Matari	Posted - 2010.07.19 02:08:00 - [151] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Originally by: ChipMo Why would we? We do not exist as an organization to tell people what they can and cannot do. Oh, right, so the public demand for I-RED to renounce slavery, enforced by the outright military desecration of a memorial service and the assassination under flag of truce of their leader was really just a polite suggestion, then? Originally by: ChipMo if you have a problem with a non-Star Fraction pilot, such as Revan then you need to resolve it with them. Already did. She's still bitter about it. Originally by: ChipMo We have many potential targets and hostile entities to prioritize, CONCORD is among them. It is not our primary concern at the moment though. We have killed far, far more Sansha puppets than we have CONCORD employees. No you haven't! You've actually sustained more losses to "Sansha puppets" than those you've killed, your own killboards attest to this and the two most costly kills of the entire conflict were Star Fraction pilots directly assisting Sansha pilots in the destruction of CONCORD battleships lawfully patrolling Republic and State space by consent of their respective leaderships, trying to co-ordinate attempts to repel Sansha incursions. This makes you not only directly and wilfully complicit in Sansha atrocities, but also terrorists. Mr.Ixiris, I would ask you for evidence of your claims, but judging from the pattern (you've now been accused of being a stalker, admiring Archbishop and being a 'liar' all while subjected to various other insults, innuendo's, and general contempt), to use the Star Fraction Test, chances are reasonably high that you are telling the truth. While I will still retain judgement on how much Star Fraction may be helping Sansha loyalists, Star Fractions' remaining blue to them in wake of their public declaration to fire on those defending from Sansha attacks made pretty clear they aren't to be trusted on this issue anyway.
Silas Vitalia Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.07.19 05:14:00 - [152] Silas hold her temples in a pained expression 90% of these posts have nothing to do with the topic of this thread, the Mekhios Rally. You all (mostly) seem like educated individuals; excercise your God-given talents of reading comprehension (by reading the title of the thread) and please take the five-page arguments (on both sides) about whom is sleeping with whom and supporting whatever factions-fractions-sanshas-what-have-you to other venues. Some of the arguments have merit, some don't but none belong here. Those points regarding conflicts of interest, and the arguments disputing those points, have been made ad-nauseum in other threads, to no one's entertainment or enlightenment. A cheerful guide to this particular thread: 1. Does my comment have anything to do with the events surrounding the Mekhios rally? If yes, procede. If no, consider posting elsewhere, or ignoring the baited comments you are about to respond to. Silas Vitalia CEO Khanid Provincial Vanguard Open for Recruitment!
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.07.19 13:41:00 - [153] Originally by: Sophie Starsparrow Originally by: Andreus Ixiris [...] You've actually sustained more losses to "Sansha puppets" than those you've killed, your own killboards attest to this and the two most costly kills of the entire conflict were Star Fraction pilots directly assisting Sansha pilots in the destruction of CONCORD battleships lawfully patrolling Republic and State space by consent of their respective leaderships, trying to co-ordinate attempts to repel Sansha incursions. This makes you not only directly and wilfully complicit in Sansha atrocities, but also terrorists. Mr.Ixiris, I would ask you for evidence of your claims, but judging from the pattern [...] chances are reasonably high that you are telling the truth. While I will still retain judgement on how much Star Fraction may be helping Sansha loyalists, Star Fractions' remaining blue to them in wake of their public declaration to fire on those defending from Sansha attacks made pretty clear they aren't to be trusted on this issue anyway. The Star Fraction are not blue to any Sansha's Nation loyalists. Another lie falls from your mouth. As for Ixiris, he has his facts wrong. I imagine this is because he hasn't bothered to properly research the matter, not being motivated to look for evidence counter to his case, in which event he's just a bad faith critic or he has found the countering evidence and decided not to mention it, in which event he's a liar. Neither speaks well of him. What are the facts with regard to the Star Fraction and counter-Sansha operations? The facts are that our pilots have participated in the destruction of ten True Power capsuleer vessels: three True Power Archon-class carriers, two True Power Chimera-class carriers and five True Power Nightmare-class battleships. In addition, we have destroyed many conventionally crewed True Power vessels during Sansha's Nation incursions. As far as Sansha's Nation capsuleer supporters, we have destroyed one such vessel and taken two losses. We have also participated in the destruction of two CONCORD Special Ops-class battleships piloted by Haeldone Dorgiers. We make no apology for this. We regard CONCORD's role in these events as deeply ambiguous and highly questionable. It should be remembered that there are indications that this particular CONCORD pilot has passed information to pro-Sansha forces. In any event, our pilots are authorized to exercise discretion against valid targets and CONCORD vessels are valid targets when practicable. To round out the picture, we have also participated in the destruction of one Amarr Navy Apocalypse-class (Navy Issue) battleship, for which again we make no apology, particularly given the Amarr Navy's policy of ordering Amarr militia pilots to fire on Minmatar pilots fighting against Sansha's Nation. All taken in all, I think the picture is rather different, when you look at all the facts, than the one painted by Ixiris. For example, his assertion that the most costly loss involving our pilots was a CONCORD Special Ops-class battleship is plain wrong. In fact, the most costly loss was the True Power Chimera-class carrier piloted by Slave Endoma01, with the other four True Power carrier losses following quite closely behind. Again, it's fairly clear that Ixiris is only interested in facts that seem to support his views and not in the whole picture. He says we are terrorists as if such a charge should dismay us. I would have thought it is passing well known that we advocate insurrectionary anarchism and revolution against state power. When it comes to statists and imperialists we certainly are terrorists. What I want to know is whether he has the courage of his convictions and will state that in his view anyone firing on any vessel involved in counter-Sansha operations is "directly and wilfully complicit in Sansha atrocities". That, while not something I agree with, would at least be consistent. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Outlaw Jenner Caldari Misfits Enterprises Art of Defiance	Posted - 2010.07.23 19:34:00 - [154] Edited by: Outlaw Jenner on 23/07/2010 19:35:21 Originally by: Jade Constantine Hiring Outlaw Jenner against anybody is the new eden version of beating up a mugger with a stuffed trout. Its supposed to be humiliating by the ridiculous implement used to deliver the beating. At least in that beating my trout got to renew the stench of rotten fish, thanks Jadder
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.23 19:59:00 - [155] Edited by: Syn Callibri on 23/07/2010 20:00:40 The wisdom of Vulkor tells us that "...When two predators come face to face, either both will turn away or not. If not, the greater predator will have a fresh kill...". From all that I have read here Star Fraction has proven to be the greater, if not shrewder and more cunning predator. Syn Callibri Ilharess of the Scorpion Tribe
5pY	Posted - 2010.07.23 20:32:00 - [156] Originally by: Outlaw Jenner Edited by: Outlaw Jenner on 23/07/2010 19:35:21 Originally by: Jade Constantine Hiring Outlaw Jenner against anybody is the new eden version of beating up a mugger with a stuffed trout. Its supposed to be humiliating by the ridiculous implement used to deliver the beating. At least in that beating my trout got to renew the stench of rotten fish, thanks Jadder

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.23 20:44:00 - [157] Removed OOC link Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 17:01:00 - [158] Originally by: Outlaw Jenner As far as Andreus... I dont recall ever having to deal with you directly, only recollection I have of you is some audio logs of you crying on comms to an alliance director about my "uncouth" behavior. Seems he does a lot of that. Join the Revolution!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 17:08:00 - [159] Really couldn't resist digging up a three-week-old thread to take another dig at me, eh, Jade? Looks like you're the one doing the crying. One might even accuse you of being, I don't know, a bit obsessed. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 17:10:00 - [160] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Really couldn't resist digging up a three-week-old thread to take another dig at me, eh, Jade? If only you knew what I was really up to eh? It'll be a lovely surprise. Join the Revolution!

Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 17:14:00 - [161] You bluffing, and being full of **** isn't really a surprise. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 17:16:00 - [162] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris You bluffing, and being full of **** isn't really a surprise. You do sound a little bit rattled there. Join the Revolution!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 17:18:00 - [163] It's easy to get the impression you want when your ears are tuned to exactly what you want to hear, isn't it, Jade? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:03:00 - [164] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris It's easy to get the impression you want when your ears are tuned to exactly what you want to hear, isn't it, Jade? You speak with the authority of experience. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:06:00 - [165] So now your argument has essentially boiled down to an overly verbose rendition of "NO U!", Cosmo? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:17:00 - [166] Given the lack of a negative in what I said, I believe it is clear to anyone with ears attuned to what I said, rather than what they want to hear, that the answer to that question is 'no'. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:19:00 - [167] There are ways of saying "NO U!" without actually using a negative. For instance: "The assertion that has been made about my person applies more accurately to you than to myself". ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:23:00 - [168] Obviously, I bow to your expertise when it comes to this particular construction but your variant would appear to include a comparative. I see no such comparative in what I said, so again, the answer to your question is a clear 'no'. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:26:00 - [169] You're wrong, but regardless, are you going to show off your super-secret plan to humiliate me now, or is it all just more bluster from the king (and queen) of bluster? ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:26:00 - [170] What does any of this have to do with Mekhios? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.

Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:52:00 - [171] Originally by: Rodj Blake What does any of this have to do with Mekhios? It involves gutless nobodies who are too terrified to undock? Join the Revolution!
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:01:00 - [172] Do you do anything these days except impotently attempt to insult people Jade? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:02:00 - [173] Originally by: Rodj Blake Do you do anything these days except impotently attempt to insult people Jade? Well I'm writing this from the command dec of my battlecruiser. So I guess I'll leave the impotent frothing to Amarrians and other nationalist dogs. Join the Revolution!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:22:00 - [174] So your talk about having some surprise ready was just bluster? Shame, I was actually looking forward to you tripping over your own feet again. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:38:00 - [175] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris So your talk about having some surprise ready I wonder how long it'll take you to notice. Join the Revolution!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:54:00 - [176] Given that you haven't done anything obvious, just talked incessantly about how clever you are, perhaps boredom is clouding my judgement. Humour me. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:26:00 - [177] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris Given that you haven't done anything obvious ... Quite. Join the Revolution!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:33:00 - [178] I suspect you're simply trying to appear mysterious and sophisticated by pretending you have some sort of massive secret. Either you're bluffing or you're lying about something else. No matter - I shall clarify for myself. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.08.17 15:00:00 - [179] Originally by: Andreus Ixiris I suspect you're simply trying to appear mysterious and sophisticated by pretending you have some sort of massive secret. Either you're bluffing or you're lying about something else. No matter - I shall clarify for myself. And did you discover anything interesting about the ahem dynamics of the situation? Join the Revolution!
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.08.17 15:02:00 - [180] Only that you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with me. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor



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