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Steve Celeste Caldari Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:02:00 - [1] CCP have kept the NPC orders for pos fuel intact. PI production is completely UNprofitable. Great job.
Magnus Nordir Caldari Nordir Industries Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:03:00 - [2] But TQ isn't even open yet wtf am I reading --------------------------- Only those who surrender are lost
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:05:00 - [3] Originally by: Magnus Nordir But TQ isn't even open yet wtf am I reading I'm on TQ in the moment. Apply \| Sigs
RaTTuS BIG Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:12:00 - [4] Originally by: Steve Celeste CCP have kept the NPC orders for pos fuel intact. PI production is completely UNprofitable. fuel is not the only thing to be made and who says the sell orders will stay --
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:12:00 - [5] Assuming it will probably take a week or two for PI to get up and running in scale, removing all NPC orders from the get go would mean loads of POS starving to death. I have no doubt that the NPC orders will be switched off sooner rather than later.
Bushgallam	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:21:00 - [6] Q for those in: How about the 3 P1's that used te be NPC supplied (water, oxygen and silicate iirc) ? Are those still seeded?
Steve Celeste Caldari Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:24:00 - [7] Originally by: Bushgallam Q for those in: How about the 3 P1's that used te be NPC supplied (water, oxygen and silicate iirc) ? Are those still seeded? Yes. It's a joke.
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:25:00 - [8] Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 08/06/2010 12:24:59 Originally by: Steve Celeste Originally by: Bushgallam Q for those in: How about the 3 P1's that used te be NPC supplied (water, oxygen and silicate iirc) ? Are those still seeded? Yes. It's a joke. It is actually pathetic.
Ovella	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Bushgallam Q for those in: How about the 3 P1's that used te be NPC supplied (water, oxygen and silicate iirc) ? Are those still seeded? but... but they removed those from missions!
Felia Zedani	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:30:00 - [10] But POS mods are gone, right?

Qoi New Eden Warriors	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:33:00 - [11] No sell orders were removed, just command centers added. But iirc it was said that they will stay until PI is in "full swing", so nothing new here.
Legs Mackenzie	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:33:00 - [12] Can we even trust CCP to run this game anymore?
Weaselior GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:37:00 - [13] lawl whoever was in charge of this expansion should be fired
TheBaptist	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Assuming it will probably take a week or two for PI to get up and running in scale, removing all NPC orders from the get go would mean loads of POS starving to death. I have no doubt that the NPC orders will be switched off sooner rather than later. This. The OP obviously has no clue. -- ECM: Eve Character Monitor Widget for OS X
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:41:00 - [15] Originally by: TheBaptist Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Assuming it will probably take a week or two for PI to get up and running in scale, removing all NPC orders from the get go would mean loads of POS starving to death. I have no doubt that the NPC orders will be switched off sooner rather than later. This. The OP obviously has no clue. Theres enough of stock to run the game for months ....
Narfas Deteis	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:44:00 - [16] Originally by: Qoi No sell orders were removed, just command centers added. But iirc it was said that they will stay until PI is in "full swing", so nothing new here. And they'll fix rockets. And AFs. And release Ambulation. Anyway, what was idea behind it? "Let's make PI unprofitable and then wait for... erm... full swing"?
Vilgan Mazran Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:51:00 - [17] lol. Much worse for PI than the reproc thing, and apparently it was planned rather than intentional. Yay for stupid cheap P4 and 80% of PI products being useless to make.
An Anarchyyt Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Narfas Deteis Originally by: Qoi No sell orders were removed, just command centers added. But iirc it was said that they will stay until PI is in "full swing", so nothing new here. And they'll fix rockets. And AFs. And release Ambulation. Anyway, what was idea behind it? "Let's make PI unprofitable and then wait for... erm... full swing"? Because until PI is in full swing there's absolutely no way it could keep up with demand, so orders can't be removed right away? But by all means, keep rabbling like some kind of internet space king. But I'm sure making all my NPC pos fuels go from a few thousand ISK to a few million ISK would be a great idea. I just wish I thought of it. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.06.08 12:55:00 - [19] So once again, people are surprised, shocked and incredulous that CCP are doing exactly what they said they were going to do all alongà If you didn't whine about this a month ago, you have no business whining about it now. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
mechtech SRS Industries SRS.	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:36:00 - [20] Is this is mistake? Will NPC orders be stepped down slowly and if so, how? Part of the appeal of Tyrannis was that is made everything more player driven. As of now, it's really not (not to mention this kills much of the profitability of PI). CCP should keep us updated and give us a clear plan of how they are actually rolling out this expansion. As of now, it's really been handled pretty terribly.

Vilgan Mazran Aperture Harmonics K162	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:39:00 - [21] leaving pos fuels up isn't necessarily a bad idea. Leaving up every single NPC sold good such that 80% of everything you can make with PI is worthless was not. Please consider removing all the other items asap, as it really kills the point of PI.
pmchem Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:41:00 - [22] does CCP even play this game other than like, highsec L2 missions and mining
mechtech SRS Industries SRS.	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:46:00 - [23] Originally by: Vilgan Mazran leaving pos fuels up isn't necessarily a bad idea. Leaving up every single NPC sold good such that 80% of everything you can make with PI is worthless was not. Please consider removing all the other items asap, as it really kills the point of PI. Unless I'm misunderstanding, PI is basically worthless, as the profitable items (there aren't that many) will quickly be oversaturate by the PI gold rush. And on top of that, no CCP response yet. CCP needs to clarify this situation and give a concrete plan to players ASAP.
Maewei Balducci	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:46:00 - [24] Edited by: Maewei Balducci on 08/06/2010 13:47:23 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Assuming it will probably take a week or two for PI to get up and running in scale, removing all NPC orders from the get go would mean loads of POS starving to death. I have no doubt that the NPC orders will be switched off sooner rather than later. well but for now, with all npc orders lots of products are useless. and if not, the products to create them/the final are sold by npc. example : 80% of what i found in hard planets are done by npc. so no reasons doing it. doings high cost fuel is way more intersisting for now... but of course all people will do it...
Camios Minmatar Insurgent New Eden Tribe	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:50:00 - [25] Edited by: Camios on 08/06/2010 13:51:10 Lol at the whiners, as always. NPC sell orders act just as a price ceiling. So you wanted the POS owners to starve because there are no NPC sell order for fuel and nobody can produce them? Imagine the mess that would have happened if CCP had unseeded NPC goods since 26th of May, and at the time nobody could engage efficiently in PI because they had no skills. EDIT: Me idiot, obviously the OP is a troll. 8/10
pmchem Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:52:00 - [26] Pretty happy I didn't bother training any of these skills, the tears over PI are going to be epic
Venn'Da	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:55:00 - [27] RABBLE!
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2010.06.08 13:55:00 - [28] Originally by: pmchem Pretty happy I didn't bother training any of these skills, the tears over PI are going to be epic Comon its a very succesfull expansion , i reporcessed plenty of cyno jammers. I got my share of fun , now I wait another 6 monts of boredom.
Illwill Bill House of Tempers	Posted - 2010.06.08 14:01:00 - [29] My dear fellow players, STOP WHINING FFS! Just because the items are seeded on the market that doesn't mean you can't sell things cheaper. There will be a transitional period, where NPC seeding is neccesary to fill the current demand. PI is not a money printing machine; it's designed to remove the dependency on NPC orders. You cannot expect CCP to remove the NPC orders until enough goods have been produced. Did you guys seriously expect all NPC orders to disappear over DT, so that all POS owners would have to fight for the scarce resources that will be put on the market today? Did really you expect to make loads of internetspaceshippixelmoney on ripping off everyone desperately trying to keep their operations running? Also, low-sec is fine. That will be all. Additionally, it really infuriates me, when people use some pointless rant about signatures as a sig.
An Anarchyyt Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.08 14:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Illwill Bill My dear fellow players, STOP WHINING FFS! Just because the items are seeded on the market that doesn't mean you can't sell things cheaper. There will be a transitional period, where NPC seeding is neccesary to fill the current demand. PI is not a money printing machine; it's designed to remove the dependency on NPC orders. You cannot expect CCP to remove the NPC orders until enough goods have been produced. Did you guys seriously expect all NPC orders to disappear over DT, so that all POS owners would have to fight for the scarce resources that will be put on the market today? Did really you expect to make loads of internetspaceshippixelmoney on ripping off everyone desperately trying to keep their operations running? Also, low-sec is fine. That will be all. But I want to see the whines when people are paying 10mil for Mechanical Parts, and Robotics. How will I see those now? Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person



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