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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.13 10:46:00 -
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PA isn't dead yet, tho it no longer controls any 0.0 even those they fool themselfs they do, 2 people in venal who log off anytime BOB enter the system does not mean you control venal.
http://www.eve-i.com/home/dancer/page/page_fullnews.php?id=2126
It seems Pa have taken on a few 20/30 man corps i dont know what these corps were told but you wont be able to do any large scale mining or npc'ing in the north.
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Sun Ra
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Posted - 2004.12.13 10:46:00 -
[92]
PA isn't dead yet, tho it no longer controls any 0.0 even those they fool themselfs they do, 2 people in venal who log off anytime BOB enter the system does not mean you control venal.
http://www.eve-i.com/home/dancer/page/page_fullnews.php?id=2126
It seems Pa have taken on a few 20/30 man corps i dont know what these corps were told but you wont be able to do any large scale mining or npc'ing in the north.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.13 10:54:00 -
[93]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 13/12/2004 11:01:13
Originally by: Sun Ra PA isn't dead yet, tho it no longer controls any 0.0 even those they fool themselfs they do, 2 people in venal who log off anytime BOB enter the system does not mean you control venal.
http://www.eve-i.com/home/dancer/page/page_fullnews.php?id=2126
It seems Pa have taken on a few 20/30 man corps i dont know what these corps were told but you wont be able to do any large scale mining or npc'ing in the north.
Excuse me for a second....
BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathe*
MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathe*
Funniest... Interview... Ever...
If PA are looking to become the ultimate laughing joke in Eve then that interview should go a long way towards it.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.12.13 10:54:00 -
[94]
Edited by: DB Preacher on 13/12/2004 11:01:13
Originally by: Sun Ra PA isn't dead yet, tho it no longer controls any 0.0 even those they fool themselfs they do, 2 people in venal who log off anytime BOB enter the system does not mean you control venal.
http://www.eve-i.com/home/dancer/page/page_fullnews.php?id=2126
It seems Pa have taken on a few 20/30 man corps i dont know what these corps were told but you wont be able to do any large scale mining or npc'ing in the north.
Excuse me for a second....
BWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathe*
MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
*breathe*
Funniest... Interview... Ever...
If PA are looking to become the ultimate laughing joke in Eve then that interview should go a long way towards it.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:10:00 -
[95]
Hmm, so was this a guardian, or ISD intervieuw ? They must know it's laughable right ?
They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
We all know PA is now an empire space alliance. And believe me when I say that things are going to get alot more grim for them in the near future too. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:10:00 -
[96]
Hmm, so was this a guardian, or ISD intervieuw ? They must know it's laughable right ?
They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
We all know PA is now an empire space alliance. And believe me when I say that things are going to get alot more grim for them in the near future too. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:27:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Hmm, so was this a guardian, or ISD intervieuw ? They must know it's laughable right ?
It was an ISD interview. ISD-IC, to be precise. Wether or not it is laughable is up to you to decide.
Originally by: Rod Blaine They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
Don't worry, BoB is on the list for one of the alliance chats (even though there has been no official alliance created). As for joining on ops, well, no need really, the Map tells us enough.
Wether or not the war is over is not ours to decide. BoB might consider it over, but it's appearant that the PA does not agree.
Fun stuff, huh?

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Orestes
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:27:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Hmm, so was this a guardian, or ISD intervieuw ? They must know it's laughable right ?
It was an ISD interview. ISD-IC, to be precise. Wether or not it is laughable is up to you to decide.
Originally by: Rod Blaine They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
Don't worry, BoB is on the list for one of the alliance chats (even though there has been no official alliance created). As for joining on ops, well, no need really, the Map tells us enough.
Wether or not the war is over is not ours to decide. BoB might consider it over, but it's appearant that the PA does not agree.
Fun stuff, huh?

Join the IC! |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:44:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:53:27
Originally by: Rod Blaine They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
Don't worry, BoB is on the list for one of the alliance chats (even though there has been no official alliance created). As for joining on ops, well, no need really, the Map tells us enough.
Wether or not the war is over is not ours to decide. BoB might consider it over, but it's appearant that the PA does not agree.
Fun stuff, huh?

Well, In my honest opinion the only way of doing this right is publicising both the Bob take and PA take on this at the same time if you as a journalist are going to be taking everything anyone says for granted without bothering with what journalists mostly do: finding stuff out themselves.
As far as the map is concerned: it doesn't say nothing, and if you think it does you have alot to learn about 0.0 space Orestes.
Of course, it all IS fun stuff. But things like this piece of news get people hurt ingame Orestes. PA has found some new members it seems, which cannot be anything but pretty new to alliance warfare or 0.0 space. Otherwise they would not have joined a beaten down alliance with no claim to 0.0 space now would they ?
Your article published without balancing words from the other side or any attempt at objectivity is going to cost alot of ships to those corporations that joined, assured by PA's obvious control over Venal that your article implied here.
You aure there is no reason to search for a more thougthful way of reporting this ? No balance in reporting based on either allowing both sides to voice opinion at the same time on a subject, or alternatively by trying to get the truth yourselves ?
Hence my question wether this was guardian or not. Guardian is a tool, ISD should be more. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:44:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:53:27
Originally by: Rod Blaine They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
Don't worry, BoB is on the list for one of the alliance chats (even though there has been no official alliance created). As for joining on ops, well, no need really, the Map tells us enough.
Wether or not the war is over is not ours to decide. BoB might consider it over, but it's appearant that the PA does not agree.
Fun stuff, huh?

Well, In my honest opinion the only way of doing this right is publicising both the Bob take and PA take on this at the same time if you as a journalist are going to be taking everything anyone says for granted without bothering with what journalists mostly do: finding stuff out themselves.
As far as the map is concerned: it doesn't say nothing, and if you think it does you have alot to learn about 0.0 space Orestes.
Of course, it all IS fun stuff. But things like this piece of news get people hurt ingame Orestes. PA has found some new members it seems, which cannot be anything but pretty new to alliance warfare or 0.0 space. Otherwise they would not have joined a beaten down alliance with no claim to 0.0 space now would they ?
Your article published without balancing words from the other side or any attempt at objectivity is going to cost alot of ships to those corporations that joined, assured by PA's obvious control over Venal that your article implied here.
You aure there is no reason to search for a more thougthful way of reporting this ? No balance in reporting based on either allowing both sides to voice opinion at the same time on a subject, or alternatively by trying to get the truth yourselves ?
Hence my question wether this was guardian or not. Guardian is a tool, ISD should be more. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:50:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Well, In my honest opinion the only way of doing this right is publicising both the Bob take and PA take on this at the same time if you as a journalist are going to be taking everything anyone says for granted without bothering with what journalists mostly do: finding stuff out themselves.
It was an interview, not a back-and-forth piece like the previous one we released (Bob versus FA).
Originally by: Rod Blaine
As far as the map is concerned: it doesn't say nothing, and if you think it does you have alot to learn about 0.0 space Orestes.
I know enough about the map to know that those pretty lights are you 
Join the IC! |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:50:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Well, In my honest opinion the only way of doing this right is publicising both the Bob take and PA take on this at the same time if you as a journalist are going to be taking everything anyone says for granted without bothering with what journalists mostly do: finding stuff out themselves.
It was an interview, not a back-and-forth piece like the previous one we released (Bob versus FA).
Originally by: Rod Blaine
As far as the map is concerned: it doesn't say nothing, and if you think it does you have alot to learn about 0.0 space Orestes.
I know enough about the map to know that those pretty lights are you 
Join the IC! |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:54:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:58:38 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:57:55 Actually it may not be us tbh. The claim of space is not enforced by pilots in stations, it is enforced by gangs mobilised to react to any threat.
A moving blob tells you more then one that sits in space.
I don't think you've got the way down quite yet with this, unless of course that BoB counterpiece is slated for a soonish appearance  _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 11:54:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:58:38 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:57:55 Actually it may not be us tbh. The claim of space is not enforced by pilots in stations, it is enforced by gangs mobilised to react to any threat.
A moving blob tells you more then one that sits in space.
I don't think you've got the way down quite yet with this, unless of course that BoB counterpiece is slated for a soonish appearance  _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:02:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:58:38 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:57:55 Actually it may not be us tbh. The claim of space is not enforced by pilots in stations, it is enforced by gangs mobilised to react to any threat.
I know.
Originally by: Rod Blaine A moving blob tells you more then one that sits in space.
I know .
Originally by: Rod Blaine [I don't think you've got the way down quite yet with this, unless of course that BoB counterpiece is slated for a soonish appearance 
We'll see 
Join the IC! |

Orestes
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:02:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:58:38 Edited by: Rod Blaine on 13/12/2004 11:57:55 Actually it may not be us tbh. The claim of space is not enforced by pilots in stations, it is enforced by gangs mobilised to react to any threat.
I know.
Originally by: Rod Blaine A moving blob tells you more then one that sits in space.
I know .
Originally by: Rod Blaine [I don't think you've got the way down quite yet with this, unless of course that BoB counterpiece is slated for a soonish appearance 
We'll see 
Join the IC! |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:12:00 -
[107]
Thanks for helping me in this little propaganda piece Orestes.
a=And yes, I know you know _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 12:12:00 -
[108]
Thanks for helping me in this little propaganda piece Orestes.
a=And yes, I know you know _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Samhradhan
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:10:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Hmm, so was this a guardian, or ISD intervieuw ? They must know it's laughable right ?
They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
We all know PA is now an empire space alliance. And believe me when I say that things are going to get alot more grim for them in the near future too.
This was an interview... not a press release. This story is the first in a series that will hopefully cover each major alliance, including BoB. SirMolle was contacted in regards to an interview, as were most other alliance heads. His may take longer to prepare however, as he requested certain conditions that others (including PA) did not.
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Samhradhan
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine Hmm, so was this a guardian, or ISD intervieuw ? They must know it's laughable right ?
They are invited to come over to venal, Tenal and Branch (announced please if you want to live) and join one of our gangs for a bit to see what PA activity in Venal amounts to.
Then pleae make sure to intervieuw SirMolle as well and combine the newfound info into something that could actually resemble the truth 
We all know PA is now an empire space alliance. And believe me when I say that things are going to get alot more grim for them in the near future too.
This was an interview... not a press release. This story is the first in a series that will hopefully cover each major alliance, including BoB. SirMolle was contacted in regards to an interview, as were most other alliance heads. His may take longer to prepare however, as he requested certain conditions that others (including PA) did not.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Ra PA isn't dead yet, tho it no longer controls any 0.0 even those they fool themselfs they do, 2 people in venal who log off anytime BOB enter the system does not mean you control venal.
http://www.eve-i.com/home/dancer/page/page_fullnews.php?id=2126
It seems Pa have taken on a few 20/30 man corps i dont know what these corps were told but you wont be able to do any large scale mining or npc'ing in the north.
Now that was funny, like really really funny!  
Eve Blacklight Style
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2004.12.13 13:29:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Sun Ra PA isn't dead yet, tho it no longer controls any 0.0 even those they fool themselfs they do, 2 people in venal who log off anytime BOB enter the system does not mean you control venal.
http://www.eve-i.com/home/dancer/page/page_fullnews.php?id=2126
It seems Pa have taken on a few 20/30 man corps i dont know what these corps were told but you wont be able to do any large scale mining or npc'ing in the north.
Now that was funny, like really really funny!  
Eve Blacklight Style
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:11:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Thanks for helping me in this little propaganda piece Orestes.
a=And yes, I know you know
Why bother asking then? You only come across like someone who has to argue for the sake of argueing.
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:11:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Rod Blaine Thanks for helping me in this little propaganda piece Orestes.
a=And yes, I know you know
Why bother asking then? You only come across like someone who has to argue for the sake of argueing.
This is not a hijack
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:31:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Lianhaun
Originally by: Rod Blaine Thanks for helping me in this little propaganda piece Orestes.
a=And yes, I know you know
Why bother asking then? You only come across like someone who has to argue for the sake of argueing.
I was interested in what the idea behind the series of news items is going to be. I now know what it is, hence no need for further info.
I know you don't use forums like I do Lian, doesn't make me lesser then you does it ?
And well, you might just have missed the point there in that quote. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:31:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Lianhaun
Originally by: Rod Blaine Thanks for helping me in this little propaganda piece Orestes.
a=And yes, I know you know
Why bother asking then? You only come across like someone who has to argue for the sake of argueing.
I was interested in what the idea behind the series of news items is going to be. I now know what it is, hence no need for further info.
I know you don't use forums like I do Lian, doesn't make me lesser then you does it ?
And well, you might just have missed the point there in that quote. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:34:00 -
[117]
I noticed the PR point, but when people say it's sad of the PA to use the ISD as a PR machine, its even sadder when you see people of the same alliance do it as well. not saying that you said it But I still belied that its not really needed to spell it out completly.
This is not a hijack
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:34:00 -
[118]
I noticed the PR point, but when people say it's sad of the PA to use the ISD as a PR machine, its even sadder when you see people of the same alliance do it as well. not saying that you said it But I still belied that its not really needed to spell it out completly.
This is not a hijack
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:35:00 -
[119]
Actually, Rod, it does look like you were arguing for the sake of arguing 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.12.13 14:35:00 -
[120]
Actually, Rod, it does look like you were arguing for the sake of arguing 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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