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Karn Mithralia Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 12:31:00 - [1] As of 10/06 12:30 hours Ushra'Khan will declassify Providence as being under free-fire policy. Here ends our Burn Providence campaign. Our stations in Providence will open to neutrals within the next 24hrs, with the exception of those in the ZQ2-CF constellation. We reserve the right to ask neutrals to leave this constellation or be shot. Neutrals are warned to take all necessary precautions in Providence, we do not speak for other alliances in the region. The slaver threat has retreated to the corrupt embrace of the Empire it serves and to there we turn our attention. Accordingly let it be known that the Amarr Empire is now a Ushra'Khan free-fire zone. May CONCORD protect you, your god won't. We come for our people.
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.09 12:48:00 - [2] Wisdom. The Star Fraction, of course, continues to advocate uniform, non-geographically differentiated rules of engagement but we respect without reserve the right of our friends and allies in the Ushra'Khan to set their own policy in this regard. Nevertheless, the relinquishment of free-fire, or as some know it 'NBSI', throughout the Providence region is a major step forward and demonstrates the noble purpose of the fighters of the Ushra'Khan. The additional step of opening the majority of Ushra'Khan stations to neutral trade is both wise and far-sighted. The peace and stability of Providence rests on the economic development of the region by free and freedom-loving capsuleers, other augmenteds and allied baselines. This is a good day for the new Providence, the free Providence. In solidarity and for freedom, The Cosmopolite On behalf of the Freecaptains of the Star Fraction The Star Fraction Communications Portal
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 12:50:00 - [3] I'm watching the starlanes in the Amarr Empire. If you feed the Amarr Empire with trade goods, prepare to feel the wrath of my Tachyons - I care not for CONCORD. For freedom!
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 12:54:00 - [4] The chase goes on. _______________________ We come for our people!
Nefher Zhila Amarr Khanid Provincial Vanguard	Posted - 2010.06.09 13:24:00 - [5] Originally by: O Thief I'm watching the starlanes in the Amarr Empire. If you feed the Amarr Empire with trade goods, prepare to feel the wrath of my Tachyons - I care not for CONCORD. For freedom! Comm starts with an audible laughter And how are you suposed to even try to cut Amarr from its trade goods?! Criminals as you are i sincerelly doubt most of your kind can even come close to a decently patroled Amarrian system before the imperial navy turns your ship in a steaming pile of twisted metal. Secondly how does attacking innocent traders furthers the cause of the U'K? Ohhh...Problable answer: "they trade slaves." Problable reply: "not just you will kill a lot of those slaves when attacking a trader ship, you will also be marking yourself as nothing more than a pirate and even further will be doing the exact thing you claim to be fighting against ,trying to(and failing) impose your cultural view on a different culture than your own. Khanid Loyalist,Bahadir of Family Zhila. Former member of the 13th Royal Khanid Regulars, proud member of the khanid provincial Vanguard.
O Thief The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 13:59:00 - [6] You poor ignorant child. We shall monitor those who support CVA and slavery, and issue selective "war declarations". These are effectively bribes, following which CONCORD turn a blind eye. No space shall be safe for you and your kind.
Evanda Char Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.06.09 14:19:00 - [7] Congratulations on this final sign of yur victory in Providence! -Eva- Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.09 14:19:00 - [8] Edited by: Garreck on 09/06/2010 14:20:46 A worthy initiative. I cannot have anything negative to say about any organization who embraces the virtues of NRDS rules of engagement in Providence, friend or foe. As for the rest; as ever, CVA stands ready to meet the Ushra'Khan threat in Empire, and our campaign to reclaim lost assets in Providence continues.
Dyntheos The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.09 14:24:00 - [9] Are we red to U'K ?
Invelious Amarr The Aeternus Crusade	Posted - 2010.06.09 14:39:00 - [10] Invelious Claps Here here, everyone welcome the new CVA wannabe overloads. Out with the old and in with the...same thing? What the fhhhhuucommunication ends
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.06.09 14:57:00 - [11] Originally by: Invelious Invelious Claps Here here, everyone welcome the new CVA wannabe overloads. Out with the old and in with the...same thing? What the fhhhhuucommunication ends Well, not an extension of the Amarr Empire, so no, not the same thing. Probably not even an extension of empire space, this time; as Mr. Mithralia says, they don't have any control over the doings of other alliances in the area. Providence was, or was at least meant as, a sort of sovereign enforced-security zone, with CVA and assorted holders taking the place of CONCORD. U'K doesn't seem to be offering any such creature. Still, it's good to see that Providence will retain at least some of what made it unusual. Perhaps the increased activity will help keep Nation elements in the region suppressed. And, with respect to the larger war, good hunting to all concerned.
Ehrine Ashbark Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.09 15:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Invelious Invelious Claps Here here, everyone welcome the new CVA wannabe overloads. Out with the old and in with the...same thing? What the fhhhhuucommunication ends There's one big difference. UK aren't going to be telling people "you'll shoot these people and not these poeple, or we'll shoot you". No standings "Enclosurism" from them.
Lady LeJean Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2010.06.09 15:45:00 - [13] Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI Yarr..
Icarus3 Gallente DAEDALUS X The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.09 16:01:00 - [14] To Karn Mithralia and the rest of Ushra'Khan... I salute you! A new EVE community
Ehrine Ashbark Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.09 16:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Lady LeJean Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI Yarr.. Ultimately, that is their choice. While I'd like to hope others will "see the light" and swap to NRDS, for me to tell them they "must" or "should" would be counter to what The Star Fraction stands for.
Black Necris Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 16:10:00 - [16] we come for our people "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
Mrwes Molari	Posted - 2010.06.09 16:16:00 - [17] we come for our chickens
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 16:20:00 - [18] Originally by: Garreck Edited by: Garreck on 09/06/2010 14:20:46 A worthy initiative. I cannot have anything negative to say about any organization who embraces the virtues of NRDS rules of engagement in Providence, friend or foe. As for the rest; as ever, CVA stands ready to meet the Ushra'Khan threat in Empire, and our campaign to reclaim lost assets in Providence continues. We'll see you in space. I think others in Ushra'Khan have already stated this in other channels, but to repeat here; I believe Minmatar militia corporations are encouraged to contact our diplomats about securing positive standings.
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2010.06.09 16:34:00 - [19] Originally by: Karn Mithralia As of 10/06 12:30 hours Ushra'Khan will declassify Providence as being under free-fire policy. Here ends our Burn Providence campaign. Our stations in Providence will open to neutrals within the next 24hrs, with the exception of those in the ZQ2-CF constellation. We reserve the right to ask neutrals to leave this constellation or be shot. I'm cautiously optimistic about this annoucement. I do desire clarity about this policy change: Is Ushra'Khan now effectively NRDS everywhere but in the ZQ2-CF constellation? ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Nightshade Mary Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 16:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Merdaneth I'm cautiously optimistic about this annoucement. I do desire clarity about this policy change: Is Ushra'Khan now effectively NRDS everywhere but in the ZQ2-CF constellation? Everywhere is a big place... I don't see it mentioned in the original text... ----------------------- I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.09 17:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Aria Jenneth as Mr. Mithralia says, they don't have any control over the doings of other alliances in the area. Indeed, this is an important distinction between U'K and the CVA. Ushra'Khan might not be shooting neutrals, but they will stand by while their NBSI allies do. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Great Notion	Posted - 2010.06.09 18:13:00 - [22] To neutrals planning on enjoying some R&R in 9UY - enjoy your trip down the pipe from Kari.
Nightshade Mary Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 18:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Aria Jenneth as Mr. Mithralia says, they don't have any control over the doings of other alliances in the area. Indeed, this is an important distinction between U'K and the CVA. Ushra'Khan might not be shooting neutrals, but they will stand by while their NBSI allies do. Of course there's always the option to defend yourself. CVA style enforced hand-holding is a thing of the past. ----------------------- I love the smell of napalm in the morning.
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 19:10:00 - [24] CVA has God, we have Karn - they don't stand a chance! We Come For Our People (and your systems)
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2010.06.09 19:38:00 - [25] Originally by: Nightshade Mary Originally by: Merdaneth I'm cautiously optimistic about this annoucement. I do desire clarity about this policy change: Is Ushra'Khan now effectively NRDS everywhere but in the ZQ2-CF constellation? Everywhere is a big place... I don't see it mentioned in the original text... Ushra'Khan said it was NRDS everywhere but Catch and Providence. They claimed this was due to those regions being considered a warzone. Now it is said the area is no longer considered a warzone, but an exception is made for one constellation. However, nowhere is NRDS or something to that effect actually mentioned. I would like to know where UK stands. There are NBSI alliances in Providence that also have an open station policy. Is UK NBSI with open station except in one constellation, or is it NRDS with exceptions? ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Kazzzi Amarr Iniquitous Technologies Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2010.06.09 20:28:00 - [26] Originally by: Merdaneth Ushra'Khan said it was NRDS everywhere but Catch and Providence. They claimed this was due to those regions being considered a warzone. Now it is said the area is no longer considered a warzone, but an exception is made for one constellation. However, nowhere is NRDS or something to that effect actually mentioned. I would like to know where UK stands. There are NBSI alliances in Providence that also have an open station policy. Is UK NBSI with open station except in one constellation, or is it NRDS with exceptions? Merdaneth is digging for reasons to slander. He is proving himself to be a petty muckraker again by pretending he doesn't understand the op's original crystal clear transmission. I suggest you continue to ignore him. To U'K, nice work.
Merdaneth Amarr Angel Wing.	Posted - 2010.06.09 21:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Kazzzi Merdaneth is digging for reasons to slander. He is proving himself to be a petty muckraker again by pretending he doesn't understand the op's original crystal clear transmission. I suggest you continue to ignore him. I'm used to dealing with the likes of Star Fraction, who always manage to find some loophole or exception to their supposedly crystal-clear original transmissions. An open-station policy doesn't equal an NBSI policy. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Black Necris Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.09 21:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus CVA has God, we have Karn - they don't stand a chance! QFT "Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
Matsumoto Yoshizu Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.06.09 22:44:00 - [29] To all those planning to visit providence; it was never U'K you had to worry about....
Chereadenine Zakalwe Caldari The Nintendo Generation Snatch Victory	Posted - 2010.06.10 09:32:00 - [30] Providence will burn... ô您&# Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. Your screwed if you miss..
Karn Mithralia Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.10 16:25:00 - [31] Edited by: Karn Mithralia on 10/06/2010 16:26:35 Originally by: Merdaneth Is Ushra'Khan now effectively NRDS everywhere but in the ZQ2-CF constellation? That, the Amarr Empire and Catch. Our stations are now open to neutrals in Providence (with the exception of those in the ZQ2-CF constellation as previously stated).
Darth Sith Genbuku. Daisho Syndicate	Posted - 2010.06.10 18:22:00 - [32] Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe Providence will burn... [WTS] T2 X-Large Match with color co-ordinated carry bag. Free to anyone with the ballz to use it ...
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.10 20:17:00 - [33] Originally by: Matsumoto Yo**u To all those planning to visit providence; it was never U'K you had to worry about.... Since you've promised your allies, CVA, that you will observe NRDS, I'm sure they have nothing to worry about with regards to your alliance. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Xenea Amarr	Posted - 2010.06.11 04:28:00 - [34] Originally by: Black Necris we come for our Proletariat Corrected.
Dallenn Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.14 13:44:00 - [35] A wise choice that has the best interests of the region in mind. The door is now open for prosperous commerce in the area. My best wishes go with you, as always The True Knowledge of the Star Fraction
5kyscreamx Mad Bombers HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.06.14 14:24:00 - [36] great news my guns grow tired of shooting the same CTA fodder over and over again. hydra will provail =====
Myxx Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.14 15:15:00 - [37] what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively? are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery?
Ranis Garr Amarr	Posted - 2010.06.14 18:03:00 - [38] Edited by: Ranis Garr on 14/06/2010 18:03:29 Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively? are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery? To the UK, of course you are. UK have no reason and are tunnel visioned into their "Poor Me" mentality that leads them to believe that they were so injured by the CVA. UK is nothing more than a regional thug that disguises itself by wearing a suit and engaging in regional politics.
SpotlessBlade	Posted - 2010.06.14 22:30:00 - [39] Originally by: Ranis Garr To the UK, of course you are. UK have no reason and are tunnel visioned into their "Poor Me" mentality that leads them to believe that they were so injured by the CVA. UK is nothing more than a regional thug that disguises itself by wearing a suit and engaging in regional politics. U Mad? Because you sound mad... We Come For Our People
Ugleb Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.18 17:07:00 - [40] Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively? are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery? Agnostic to borders? There's an attitude liable to get you shot. If you enter a free fire zone without blue standings to our pilots, the assumption is made that you are a threat to our mission and a valid target. The importance lies in whom you chose to trade with, if you are operating in the Amarr Empire then you are feeding its economy and quite possibly supplying our enemy, directly or indirectly. If you have entered Providence to hunt the Sansha, simply steer clear of the ZQ2-CF constellation and our pilots will leave you alone. The Journal; Walking The Road To Liberation
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.23 21:47:00 - [41] Edited by: Eran Mintor on 23/06/2010 21:48:19 Originally by: Ugleb Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively? are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery? Agnostic to borders? There's an attitude liable to get you shot. If you enter a free fire zone without blue standings to our pilots, the assumption is made that you are a threat to our mission and a valid target. The importance lies in whom you chose to trade with, if you are operating in the Amarr Empire then you are feeding its economy and quite possibly supplying our enemy, directly or indirectly. Or perhaps you might even be supplying Ushra'Khan pilots, but regardless... Congratulations, U'K, on the achievement and decision to be a bit more civil. Hopefully you realize terrorism in Amarr space isn't actually freeing anyone--preferably without you having to kill everyone first. ------------------------------------------------
Poreuomai Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.06.25 08:38:00 - [42] Originally by: Chereadenine Zakalwe <CVA> Providence will burn... I am sooo keeping this quote. *Let My People Go*
Eran Mintor Minmatar Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.25 10:24:00 - [43] Originally by: Ugleb Originally by: Myxx what about those of us who are agnostic to borders and either are just traders, or are helping against the sansha incursions, collectively? are we targets, too? even if we dont support the idea of slavery? Agnostic to borders? There's an attitude liable to get you shot. If you enter a free fire zone without blue standings to our pilots, the assumption is made that you are a threat to our mission and a valid target. The importance lies in whom you chose to trade with, if you are operating in the Amarr Empire then you are feeding its economy and quite possibly supplying our enemy, directly or indirectly. Or possibly supplying individual Ushra'Khan pilots, but regardless... Congratulations on a well chosen step towards better relations among outsiders. I commend and respect your upholding of your goals. ------------------------------------------------
Van Cleef Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2010.06.26 20:42:00 - [44] Originally by: Ehrine Ashbark Originally by: Lady LeJean Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI Yarr.. Ultimately, that is their choice. While I'd like to hope others will "see the light" and swap to NRDS, for me to tell them they "must" or "should" would be counter to what The Star Fraction stands for. You sir, must be new to Star Fraction. Star Fraction has been demanding others to do what they want for years. Remember recruiters are there to recruit you, not inform you. ----------------------------------------------- Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
Ehrine Ashbark Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.26 22:25:00 - [45] Originally by: Van Cleef Originally by: Ehrine Ashbark Originally by: Lady LeJean Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI Yarr.. Ultimately, that is their choice. While I'd like to hope others will "see the light" and swap to NRDS, for me to tell them they "must" or "should" would be counter to what The Star Fraction stands for. You sir, must be new to Star Fraction. Star Fraction has been demanding others to do what they want for years. Remember recruiters are there to recruit you, not inform you. You've clearly not checked my Corp and Alliance history. Unless, of course, you think 2 years makes me "new" still.
Jade Constantine Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.26 22:35:00 - [46] Originally by: Van Cleef Originally by: Ehrine Ashbark Originally by: Lady LeJean Just keep in mind 90% of Providence will remain NBSI Yarr.. Ultimately, that is their choice. While I'd like to hope others will "see the light" and swap to NRDS, for me to tell them they "must" or "should" would be counter to what The Star Fraction stands for. You sir, must be new to Star Fraction. Star Fraction has been demanding others to do what they want for years. Remember recruiters are there to recruit you, not inform you. I do hope you aren't still bitter about Mito Van Cleef, that was a long time ago, and your own organization learned the price of enforcing nationalist ideology over the independance of free capsuleers united by revolutionary fervour. It should probably be remembered that in the wake of that dispute you were humbled many times during interventions you attempted to support Amarrian imperialist dogma as virtual creatures aligned to the CVA bloc. The Star Fraction has never been foes of independent commerce but always opposed those who despire to tell free captains where they may go and who they may trade with. Chatsubo RP Discussion
Van Cleef Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2010.06.26 23:04:00 - [47] Edited by: Van Cleef on 26/06/2010 23:06:37 Mito was a very long time ago, and there is no bitterness there. That would be like you being still bitter about when Space Invaders single handedly destroyed your North Venal Alliance. Time heals all wounds. Furthermore, I did not make any references to Mito. What I was making references was to Star Fractions history of pushing their Dogma onto others for the sake of the "bettermeant" of others. What your newly hired recruit was implying was that Star Fraction would not do such a thing. That is a credit to your recruiters was what I actually had referenced. I did not mean to sound mysterious, so let me try to restate it without any implications; Star Fraction are a self serving, and at times very confusing group that does in fact push their ideas onto to others by force. ----------------------------------------------- Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
Sable Schroedinger Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.06.28 16:12:00 - [48] I think it would be fairer to say, when others push their ideas onto us, we push back. CAIN pushed, we shot it in the face. -------------------------------------------- SF Recruiting
Van Cleef Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2010.06.28 18:37:00 - [49] Yes Yes, chest beating and all that. Your discussions simply revolve around one topic and ignore historical truths. Star Fraction has been forcing itself on other groups for years, earliest I can remember was your little campaign in support of the Gallente Empire against the Lame Ducks. You change your dogma to suit your needs, and have selective memories. You have declared military victory over the Kimotoro Directive, but that wasnt CAIN and Star Fractions first fight. In fact the first time we fought it was Star Fraction that was "punched in the face" or whatever witty remark. For all the free speak, open wills and what not your just another nameless holder alliance camping in Providence after some else did the heavy lifting for you because you could not do it alone. So beat that chest, sing the song of victories, hell better yet write some forty paragraph response on why your so much better than everyone else again. Those are always fun to skip over. ----------------------------------------------- Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.07.01 01:51:00 - [50] Originally by: Van Cleef Yes Yes, chest beating and all that. Your discussions simply revolve around one topic and ignore historical truths. Star Fraction has been forcing itself on other groups for years, earliest I can remember was your little campaign in support of the Gallente Empire against the Lame Ducks. You change your dogma to suit your needs, and have selective memories. You have declared military victory over the Kimotoro Directive, but that wasnt CAIN and Star Fractions first fight. In fact the first time we fought it was Star Fraction that was "punched in the face" or whatever witty remark. For all the free speak, open wills and what not your just another nameless holder alliance camping in Providence after some else did the heavy lifting for you because you could not do it alone. I am inclined to view your reference to a rather old conflict as a fascinating insight indeed. Whatever your own rather selective, not to say partial, memory may tell you about the war between Jericho Fraction and the Lame Ducks it was very definitely not waged by my corporation in support of what you are pleased to term the 'Gallente Empire'. (I would at this point note that I find the usage amusing and quite accurate in a descriptive sense.) Indeed, the Lame Ducks were hardly paragons of Caldari... shall we say virtue? They were, after all, expelled from that venerable ancestor of the Kimotoro Directive, the ill-fated United Caldari Alliance Front (UCAF) for, as I recall, piracy, terrorism and 'un-Caldari activities' (or something of the sort). This in the middle of the war we waged against them due to their acts of indiscriminate and unjustified terror. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that a senior CAIN officer should wax nostalgic for the Practicalist death squads of the Lame Ducks corporation. After all, what is CAIN's most notable achievement? Ah yes, it murdered over 60,000 Caldari State citizens at the behest of a mysterious death squad styling itself the 'Guardian Shadows'. This has long been claimed by CAIN spin-doctors to have been the aberrant act of misguided officers but I rather think the uncontrolled spleen of their former 'Fleet Admiral' has revealed deep roots when it comes to CAIN's true attitude to such acts. As for the claim that the first war between CAIN and the Fraction ended in a victory for the Caldari paramilitaries. Dear me. You know as well as I that the war petered out into an unsatisfactory stalemate, largely because capsuleer missile technology was upgraded in the middle of the war and it required additional training to use to its full potential. CAIN pilots, entirely understandably as far as I am concerned, chose to avoid battle during this period and we moved on to other matters, just as our Ushra'Khan allies moved on. I emphasise that I cast no aspersions on CAIN pilots over that, they would have fought under a considerable disadvantage in the midst of the necessary retraining and refitting. When it comes to the rather tawdry dribblings on the subject of Providence: I think laughter is the only response that they merit. Such ulcerous pain on display. I recommend a good, strong anti-emetic. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
foksieloy Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.01 06:57:00 - [51] No disrespect to our valid allies the Star Fraction, but sometimes I wonder how every single topic on Galnet turns into a discussion about you? _______________________ We come for our people!
The Cosmopolite Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.07.01 11:15:00 - [52] I think that is a question for others. As a matter of fact such diversions are rarely started at our behest. This case is a specimen example involving an old foe of both the Star Fraction and the Ushra'Khan. Still, I offer my apology. Let us return to the present and our celebration of the Ushra'Khan's new policy in Providence. The Cosmopolite The Star Fraction Communications Portal
Van Cleef Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2010.07.01 22:04:00 - [53] Originally by: foksieloy No disrespect to our valid allies the Star Fraction, but sometimes I wonder how every single topic on Galnet turns into a discussion about you? Well, no offense, but you really said all you had to say in the first post, you guys changed your ROE for your pie of the Providence area. The rest was just discussion about that statement. I would start a thread - but as mentioned there is already enough crap threads filling up the galent that their really doesn't need to be a new one. Now, I've got 20 minutes with nothing to do, so I'll bite Cosmo. Partial memories, perhaps that particular conflict was around six years ago. I was not claiming to condemn or cordone the actions of the Lame Ducks. I simply stated that the Lame Ducks started a war against the Gallente, anything Gallente, and you took issue with that fact for some reason. By attacking them, you spared Gallente lives and were defacto supporting the Gallente Federation. That must have been before your "personal responsibility" days when podders should take responsibility for their own lives and not require the protection of others. The fact that they were expelled by some caldari organization should not play into your motives since you do not support the formation of such groups. CAIN was responsible for the destruction of the freighter, an act that was later accepted by the State as a lawful act. The freighter happened to have 60,000 people on it that all evidence points towards being revolutionaries. The fact that the State was later taken over in a similar "revolutionary" act not too long later also supports the act. But I know that the Star Fraction isn't trying to take some moral high ground. In this thread alone your allies to a known, and self reported terrorist group of the Ushra Khan that over the years makes 60,000 people look like burp in comparsion. Not to mention your were bedfellows to the Gurista Terror group and Veto who has murdered THOUSANDS of times more people in their careers as pirates. So in the end, your moral judgements seem a bit hollow. Good dodge also on the topic of Providence. It really is a undefenseable position and I don't blame you for shifting away from the topic. ----------------------------------------------- Admiral Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
Codo Yagari Yulai Guard	Posted - 2010.07.02 02:24:00 - [54] Edited by: Codo Yagari on 02/07/2010 02:25:57 It Is Morally Permissible To Kill One Innocent Person To Save The Lives Of More Innocent People? (Ushra Khan NBSI) Or perhaps the Innocent that are flying in the zones you've declared NBSI are no longer Innocent in your eyes? I urge you, Ushra'Khan, embrace the mind of civilization before it is too late. Universal NRDS today!
Flint Renner	Posted - 2010.07.15 20:51:00 - [55] Haha! Well said brothers! I'm not particularly a fan of ongoing war, takes too much organisation for my liking, but i'd enjoy seeing all those Amarr ships exploding! They're always so boring and they NEVER have anything interesting to say, I wonder if they'd be more interesting when they're ship's falling apart around 'em. Anyway if you would like help in your campaign I would be happy to sign up alongside you, for a small fee ;) Won't demand much, just enough to cover my costs really. I enjoy fighting but it's not as profitable as trading so I must watch my wallet I'm afraid. What say you lads?
Gorongo Frostfyr Projekt Erzengel Cold Steel Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.15 21:38:00 - [56] Edited by: Gorongo Frostfyr on 15/07/2010 21:38:39 we haven't forgotten. -霜火
Midori Amiiko Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2010.07.16 04:18:00 - [57] Having crossed paths with Karn on several occasions I know him to be an honorable capsuleer and I applaud this decision. I look forward to trading in Providence. I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way John Paul Jones
Frozean	Posted - 2010.07.16 04:35:00 - [58] Hello. What is an nrds? A new version of a nintendo Dual screen?
Tomahawk Bliss Minmatar Fates Assembly The Final Stand.	Posted - 2010.07.16 06:55:00 - [59] Edited by: Tomahawk Bliss on 16/07/2010 06:56:19 Originally by: foksieloy No disrespect to our valid allies the Star Fraction, but sometimes I wonder how every single topic on Galnet turns into a discussion about you? that would be the bitter caldari starting trash talk in post #43 Originally by: Van Cleef That would be like you being still bitter about when Space Invaders single handedly destroyed your North Venal Alliance. single handed!? oh sugar child you have no idea... ******************************** www.eve-chatsubo.com A long term Role-Play, Fiction and EVE storyline community.
kazaanii	Posted - 2010.07.16 07:04:00 - [60] Edited by: kazaanii on 16/07/2010 07:05:06 Hello players of EVE. Can someone give me a summary of what happened and what this outcome means for everyone else? I doubt it means anything to the rest of EVE, just thought I'd ask. Can players like me go in and mine, put up poses and trade, with proper approval?
Capt Lynch	Posted - 2010.07.16 15:11:00 - [61] well done. What you've done is make it close to impossible for anyone to trade with you...how long before your so called allies decide your territory looks nice? At least CVA stopped people making Providence a lawless mess.

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.16 18:20:00 - [62] Removed ooc response Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Gladus Miraborg	Posted - 2010.07.17 02:23:00 - [63] Originally by: Karn Mithralia We reserve the right to ask neutrals to leave this constellation or be shot. Originally by: Ugleb The importance lies in whom you chose to trade with, if you are operating in the Amarr Empire then you are feeding its economy and quite possibly supplying our enemy, directly or indirectly.
Codo Yagari Yulai Guard	Posted - 2010.07.17 06:36:00 - [64] Edited by: Codo Yagari on 17/07/2010 06:37:43 Your hate for the Amarr empire will be your downfall. I respect your hate for slavery, and sympathize with it. But there is more to Amarr than that, and those things are extremely good. That is why you stand no chance if you take the entire empire on. Your enemy should be SLAVERY itself, not Amarr. If you decided to fight only the part that you do not like, you would be forced to develop a sense of finesse. As it is now, you're trying to kill a mosquito with a sledgehammer, and while doing so you're clumpsily hitting some guy standing next to you with it, someone who as no intent of harm. Remember that. - From an Amarrian whose family has never embraced slavery. Yulai Guard Forum
Exie Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.23 08:33:00 - [65] Originally by: Codo Yagari Edited by: Codo Yagari on 17/07/2010 06:37:43 Your hate for the Amarr empire will be your downfall. I respect your hate for slavery, and sympathize with it. But there is more to Amarr than that, and those things are extremely good. That is why you stand no chance if you take the entire empire on. Your enemy should be SLAVERY itself, not Amarr. If you decided to fight only the part that you do not like, you would be forced to develop a sense of finesse. As it is now, you're trying to kill a mosquito with a sledgehammer, and while doing so you're clumpsily hitting some guy standing next to you with it, someone who as no intent of harm. Remember that. - From an Amarrian whose family has never embraced slavery. I guess we should just be fine with all of the trillions of enslaved Matar within the borders of this "good" empire? Shall we just turn a blind eye when it was slaves that loaded the merchandise into your cargo vessel? Do you not support slavery when you do business with those who use slaves to increase their margins? I fail to see how punishing those that support slavery, be it directly or indirectly, is not accomplishing our goal, to end slavery. Perhaps because you grew up in this society you believe yourself to not support slavery' cause your family was not of the status to hold slaves, is this how your father explained it to you? Oh I forgot it is not slavery, it is penitence. It is a way for the "lost" to "find" god through mind altering drugs, whips, and dogs bred to be savage. We shall free them. We come for our People. . E... We be Jammin'
Marus Sulla Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.23 09:41:00 - [66] Edited by: Marus Sulla on 23/07/2010 09:41:52 Originally by: Codo Yagari Edited by: Codo Yagari on 17/07/2010 06:37:43 That is why you stand no chance if you take the entire empire on. Your enemy should be SLAVERY itself, not Amarr. Meanwhile back in the real universe ... "Shortly after recovering from the closure of EVE, they began to expand their realm at the expense of neighbouring states. The nations they conquered were enslaved, a practice justified by their religion. Ever since, the Amarrians have enslaved every nation and race they have encountered, and today slavery is an essential part of Amarr society." Would that we could strike at the ***** empress and the empire more directly, you would find U'K pilots right in the thick of that battle. As it is we'll settle for a free Providence for now and see how the next month pans out for Amarr

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