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Dreed Roberts
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Posted - 2010.06.10 00:28:00 -
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Proper Planning Prevents P!ss Poor Performance.
I am writing here because some (hopefully) misguided (and not just malicious and uncaring)GM said if I was unhappy about the way they handled my petition I should post here. Ho Ho Ho.
I am referring to the "breaking" of reprocessed P4 items obtained from NPC starbase structures. I filed a petition to get an appropriate reimbursement and got a big fat no. OK that is fair enough, it is what I expected after all. We all know the GMs can't/won't do anything to actually help a player.
What has annoyed me about this whole thing is the way CCP has acted throughout the whole affair.
It is a bug, not an exploit. So then then take arbitrary steps, without any warning in terms of announcements/patch notes/dev bolgs and arbitrarily wipe out >90% of the resources that anyone had placed in this.
What is more I am not just talking about a nerf of something they actually went into peoples accounts and removed resources and replaced them with resources of a much lesser value; WITH NO WARNING! [the PvP equivalent would be replacing every Alliance tournament HAC or Assault frigate with the equivalent T1 meta 0 ship]
Frankly I am disgusted with the way this has been handled. Please may someone else develop a decent space based MMO some market competition would be good right now.
The issues are simple, PI problems were pointed out on Sisi CCP ignores them, players use the mechanics in front of them on Tranquility CCP Devs have a fit and go round deleting peoples money.
Well now that this is thrown into the gaping hole that the forums are in terms of Dev attention, there is SFA I can do about this. So on with the rest of my EVE. But if you feel similarly please add you views, perhaps we might get an apology. Ho, Ho, Ho.
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Teinyhr
Minmatar Nor'akho Matar
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Posted - 2010.06.10 00:38:00 -
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
....Can't.. Breathe....
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...okay.. Okay.. I'm done
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHHHGgngngngng...
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Felix Esperium
Lysergic Distortions Research and Development
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Posted - 2010.06.10 00:46:00 -
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Somehow I don't think this is going to have the effect you intended.
Also, hahahahahahaha. That is all.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.10 00:49:00 -
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... Pff... ><
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Silero
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Posted - 2010.06.10 00:51:00 -
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/laughs at Akita T alt
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
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Darkwolf
Caldari TOG Empire DRACONIAN COVENANT
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Posted - 2010.06.10 00:53:00 -
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Owned.
Taking advantage of a bug for your benefit is the very definition of an exploit.
There was plenty of warning as well. It was pasted all over the forums here that all P4 items would get broken come the patch.
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Dreed Roberts
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Posted - 2010.06.10 00:58:00 -
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Nah frankly I don't/didn't expect a whole lot of sympathy.
But in answer to your points, what I was trying to achieve was to demonstrate what a complete waste of time it is to post any grievances you have with the CCP development process. As anything you do post gets a) flamed b) ignored.
I was ****ed off with the GM suggesting that this is a better way of resolving things than the petition system, which really goes to show how messed up the petition system truly is.
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Velcro fly
DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.10 01:10:00 -
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for a start, Akita T alt, i think not
Akita T has done nothing but highlight problems and point out floors in game economic mechanics. and Akita comes across as wise enough not to plough a large portion of his/her significant capital into such a floored investment. I may not agree with his/her approach but i respect the effort Akita puts in to publicizing the economic mechanics of the game
I have been playing this game since year 1, and the most important thing that i have learnt is to be conservative with your investments. market speculation is fine, but if you follow the masses then you will get burnt eventually.
now OP, do you really expect not to get flamed when you jump onto the forum and say "I saw a chance to be uber greedy and exploit an unintended oppertunity, and now i got burnt". You might as well jump into a hauler, fill it with shiney things and fly it out to null sec. You will still need the Whambulance.
For all you other fledgling capitalists out there, there is a very good phrase that you should write down and read everytime an oppertunity like "free isk" comes along
"if it sounds to good to be true, it probably is"
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Zenst
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.06.10 01:55:00 -
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Edited by: Zenst on 10/06/2010 01:56:59
Originally by: Dreed Roberts Proper Planning Prevents P!ss Poor Performance.
<SNIP>
Yeah that is known as the 5P rule and ****-poor is hyphenated, hence when you say it people go but thats 6P's not 5 and you go well ****-poor is hyphenated -- as such proving the point about planning I also know it as "Perfect Preparation Prevents ****-Poor Performance" .
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Rothrin
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Posted - 2010.06.10 02:04:00 -
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Nope the op was right, for non miltery use its the 6p's for miltery its 7 p's,the first p being prior, and it stems from the British army.
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sue denim
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Posted - 2010.06.10 02:28:00 -
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there's still an issue of taking cheap npc goods off the market and reacting them into more valuable components, some of which the npcs will even buy back giving u free isk :|
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Jobby
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.06.10 02:42:00 -
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ibtl
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RazorDreamz
Caldari Chaotic dynamics
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Posted - 2010.06.10 02:51:00 -
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You took a chance on an exploit and lost your money... where exactly is the story here. |
Dreed Roberts
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Posted - 2010.06.10 03:16:00 -
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I took a chance on a bug. It was specifically stated to be a bug not an exploit.
My gripe and issue here is on the heavy handed manner and lack of clear communication and transperancy in which this problem was "solved".
Had there been a warning in a dev blog or announcement that this bug was going to be squashed in this manner then fair enough. I guess my problem is that this was not just a squashing of a bug (refineable POS structures) but retribution was also taken against those who may have profited from something that was available to all.
Meh be that as it may, zee post is not about me getting done over by this but the way CCP interacts with its customers. Poorly. Especially as pointed out above this bug still exists with NPC seeded intermediate PI goo.
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Myxx
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.10 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Myxx on 10/06/2010 03:28:28
Originally by: Teinyhr HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
....Can't.. Breathe....
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...okay.. Okay.. I'm done
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHHHGgngngngng...
also
you were warned
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Balsak
Minmatar Friends of Bigfoot
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Posted - 2010.06.10 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dreed Roberts I took a chance on a bug. It was specifically stated to be a bug not an exploit.
My gripe and issue here is on the heavy handed manner and lack of clear communication and transperancy in which this problem was "solved".
Had there been a warning in a dev blog or announcement that this bug was going to be squashed in this manner then fair enough. I guess my problem is that this was not just a squashing of a bug (refineable POS structures) but retribution was also taken against those who may have profited from something that was available to all.
Meh be that as it may, zee post is not about me getting done over by this but the way CCP interacts with its customers. Poorly. Especially as pointed out above this bug still exists with NPC seeded intermediate PI goo.
It was a bug. You knew it was a bug and therefore knew it was going to be fixed fairly soon after it was known about. CCP made a post in the the giant thread about this bug warning players that they shouldn't invest more money into it.
You gambled and you lost and now you make yourself look foolish by posting about it here. I love how you try and paint CCP as the bad guys here when in fact you thought you were being clever but your plan backfired. Suck it up and move on. Think yourself lucky it wasn't considered an exploit and bannable.
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Zartrader
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Posted - 2010.06.10 04:12:00 -
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Op reminds me of someone who steals a TV then complains to the owner when it don't work. When the owner says 'get lost' he gets all self righteous about it. Classic.
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Mire Stoude
The Undesirables
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Posted - 2010.06.10 04:27:00 -
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I think the GM in question told you to post here because they can't insult you, but they know the players can and will.
Quote: It is a bug, not an exploit.
You exploited a bug.
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ghosttr
Amarr Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 04:28:00 -
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Op need to HTFU Prospecting! |
Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.06.10 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dreed Roberts As anything you do post gets a) flamed b) ignored.
Actually in this case that is the appropriate response.
Also, I laugh at your massive failure hahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Dreed Roberts
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Posted - 2010.06.10 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx Edited by: Myxx on 10/06/2010 03:28:28
Originally by: Teinyhr HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
....Can't.. Breathe....
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...okay.. Okay.. I'm done
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHHHGgngngngng...
also
you were warned
Firstly that "warning" contained exactly zero information. Secondly I had already reprocessed prior to reading that "warning", and I invested nothing more into it.
My point is not that I got owned, I got owned....fine. Can we move past that please?
My point is that this was another bit of blaming and punishing players for doing something that was within the rules at the time for damaging a market because CCP failed to properly prepare for this expansion.
And that this punishment is not being carried out across the board as right now there are people who are buying NPC intermediate planet goo and using that NPC goo to make more advanced planet stuff then selling it back to the NPCs for a profit. Which is within the rules right now.
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RootEmerger
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Posted - 2010.06.10 06:23:00 -
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When one reach the bottom some has the sense to stop there and dont make an *** of themselves - other get out their showel and dig down.... Looks like you'r renting deep booring equipement from BP.
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Gith Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.10 07:34:00 -
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Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 10/06/2010 07:35:10 CCP did state that it is NOT an exploit, but they also stated that they would be fixing this, and you shouldn't invest into it.
When you take advantage of a bug, you are taking a risk.
Quote: Those of you currently gambling on profiting from this error should heed that as a warning before splashing more isk here.
~ ° ° ° ~ Non-Gameplay Enhancements! |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2010.06.10 07:36:00 -
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What precisely did they do? It's not as funny without details. -
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.06.10 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx Edited by: Myxx on 10/06/2010 03:28:28
Originally by: Teinyhr HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
....Can't.. Breathe....
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
...okay.. Okay.. I'm done
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAHHHGgngngngng...
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you were warned
Originally by: JitaBum Edited by: JitaBum on 28/05/2010 14:53:21 oh sht
'epic lols' incoming
And lols were delivered as promised
Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.06.10 08:20:00 -
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I don't think it was a bug. And I don't believe the devs who say that it was a bug. That is just a cheap way to wiggle out of the mess the created. They did it INTENTIONALLY. And they FAILED. Instead of admitting that they did a mistake in their planning, they just said it was a bug. Poor, very poor.
Now, why do I believe that it was intention and not a bug?
Two things:
1) If you reprocessed the items, you didn't get the capital construction parts even though they are noted on the blueprint. That is not the default behaviour and this means that the devs DID think about people reprocessing those items. And they took steps that reprocessing wouldn't be used to abuse the system. It didn't slip them at all, they thought about it and did all those things which they thought would be necessary.
2) The blueprints of the items (pos modules, outpost parts etc.) didn't exist before and were all created for tyrannis. All the required materials and numbers there had to been figured out and balanced out with the currently existing prices and projected prices of PI stuff. This means that they did think about how much an item should cost and how many PI items it should yield upon reprocessing or consume upon building. Again, everything they knew already in advance and thought it was fine.
So:
Reprocessing was intended gameplay (they even changed behaviour of standard reprocessing). The amount of items yielded by reprocessing was intended also.
What EXACTLY was the bug? Reprocessing wasn't it because they intended the items to be reprocessed! Was it npc selling price then? No, because they didn't fix this. Was it the amount of PI items you got from specific modules? No, because they didn't fix that either.
So what was the bug?
There was NO bug. Just very poor planning from CCP (despite of many warnings in advance which got ignored). |
ParkerJ
Caldari Shadow Incursion Shadows Incursion
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Posted - 2010.06.10 08:25:00 -
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Dreed you got it wrong its
Prior preperation and Planning prevents **** Poor Performance
Pj
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 08:36:00 -
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So you used a bug to your advantage, and want GMs to help you? Uhm...
Not sure they are cool with exploiting
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dreed Roberts It is a bug, not an exploit.
It was a bug you exploited.
Since you're obviously too dumb to have figured this bug out for yourself in the first place and just followed the painting-by-numbers instructions given on here I have to say HTFU.
You missed the boat, the people who had brains got in on this early got out as soon as they realised what CCP was going to do (hint: you could see what was going to happen from SiSi). The clever people sold the product from this bug to people, who then sold that on to others, and so on until it was impossible to retroactively punish the original exploiter without unfairly punishing innocent people in the chain.
The fact you sat on the base resources illegitimately refined from this exploit is noone elses fault but your own. If you sunk billions into this, knowing full well it was unintended behavious, and failed to get out when it was obvious that CCP were going to react, then you don't deserve the spoils.
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Gavjack Bunk
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Posted - 2010.06.10 08:51:00 -
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Also, you now own a bunch of uncreatable items. Which over time may become extremely sought after by collectors.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.06.10 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Durzel If you sunk billions into this, knowing full well it was unintended behaviour, and failed to get out when it was obvious that CCP were going to react, then you don't deserve the spoils.
How do you know it was unintended behaviour?
Actually, reprocessing modules was INTENDED. They even changed the default reprocessing into something special where you didn't get all the materials on the blueprint list, especially you didn't get the capital component parts. So they were FULLY AWARE that people are going to reprocess these items.
Besides that, the cyno-jammer translates into planetary interaction raw materials average price of 0,70 isk per unit raw material.
Most of the currently sold npc items which are used and produced by PI (like water, coolant, robotics, mechanical parts etc.) are below 0,45 isk per unit raw material. So they are much cheaper than the cyno-jammer in comparison and still CCP thinks that this is perfectly okay.
So, why do you think it was unintended? Everything points out that this was fully intended. |
Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie So, why do you think it was unintended? Everything points out that this was fully intended.
It was possibly unintended as it was essentially rendering PI useless and was a ISK printing machine. I might also add, that CCP did say that it was a bug.
Bugs usually are unintended for most software developers.
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Erich Herrmann
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Posted - 2010.06.10 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mire Stoude I think the GM in question told you to post here because they can't insult you, but they know the players can and will.
Quote: It is a bug, not an exploit.
You exploited a bug.
I hope you don't mind that I put that in my signature :) ---
Originally by: Mire Stoude I think the GM in question told you to post here because they can't insult you, but they know the players can and will.
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.06.10 10:56:00 -
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It was not a bug , it is just CCPs excuse for being ignorant.
Somehow minerals and construction parts were not recoverable which indicates they were aware of reprocessing.
And now NPC orders ( guidance systmes anyone ? ) just shows their incompetence again.
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network Dignitas.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 10/06/2010 11:03:57
Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 It was not a bug , it is just CCPs excuse for being ignorant.
Not sure if serious...
Originally by: CCP Chronotis Hi Folks,
There is indeed an issue where you can reprocess the starbase modules whilst they are still regulated by the old market supply prices and use those materials to manufacture other more expensive modules. This unfortunately was a timing issue with our transition to planetary interaction from old to new supply routes and as can be seen, was not handled in the appropriate way.
For those of you looking forward to Planetary Interaction on June 8th, do not worry as these issues will be cleaned up and appropriate measures will be taken to ensure there will be a viable market for you. Those of you currently gambling on profiting from this error should heed that as a warning before splashing more isk here.
Apologies for this bug and further updates will follow in the future!
-Chronotis
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JitaPriceChecker2
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 10/06/2010 11:05:31 EXCUSE FOR BEING IGNORANT
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Merouk Baas
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:05:00 -
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I know you're just trolling, but I keep seeing this "it's not an exploit" phrase being posted repeatedly. You guys do realize that, had they declared it an exploit, they would have had to BAN everyone who took advantage of it, right? They should have just posted "it's an exploit, but we won't ban for it, this time" for less confusion.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Mire Stoude I think the GM in question told you to post here because they can't insult you, but they know the players can and will.
Now that's insight!
+1 internets for you, sir! However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs. second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Leslie e'Evob
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:11:00 -
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Aww, did your patch exploit fail?
Hey dude, I can help you: I'll trade your worthless pile of stuff for a stack of Tractor Beam I BPOs. I hear they'll be real valuable any day now...
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:18:00 -
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I don't know what's going on but I am terribly upset about it. -------- All I want is a better mankind.
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:29:00 -
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Ccp don't always ban for playing the unfair advantage game. Go buy 3bill isk off an isk farmer and spend it on minerals, then make and sell the ships.
Wait for ccp to catch up and check how low your wallet can go into negative territory.
Personally sooner have read all about the Indy characters with massive holes in their wallet than what I see Herr. </yawn> Zymurgist ACCIDENTALLY my thargoid |
oolk
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mire Stoude I think the GM in question told you to post here because they can't insult you, but they know the players can and will.
Quote: It is a bug, not an exploit.
You exploited a bug.
Sooooooo this.
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Astrostoner
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:40:00 -
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Does anyone actually care about the technicalities of this? The people taking advantage knew full well they were actively helping break PI and would ruin the expansion for anyone interested in it.
Bug, exploit or burger bun, however it happened, I'm glad....
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Cadde
Gallente 221st Century Warfare
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:41:00 -
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The bug should have exploited the OP!
Oh wait....
My opinions belong to me, you can't have them!
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brakespear
Minmatar Snowman Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.10 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mire Stoude I think the GM in question told you to post here because they can't insult you, but they know the players can and will.
This, and bravo to that GM. -------------------------------------------------- 'people will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with 'welcome' written on it.' |
Illwill Bill
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2010.06.10 12:03:00 -
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Heh.
Hehe.
HehehahahahAHAHAHAHAAAAAARW!
Additionally, it really infuriates me, when people use some pointless rant about signatures as a sig. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2010.06.10 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Dreed Roberts
Frankly I am disgusted with the way this has been handled. Please may someone else develop a decent space based MMO some market competition would be good right now.
I would support this move.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2010.06.10 12:51:00 -
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Obvious Troll - good quality trolling though. Its all about the timing you see.
SKUNK (o)
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Astrostoner
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Posted - 2010.06.10 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: Astrostoner on 10/06/2010 12:59:41 Edited by: Astrostoner on 10/06/2010 12:59:10
Originally by: Le Skunk Obvious Troll - good quality trolling though. Its all about the timing you see.
SKUNK
DNFTT
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Roemy Schneider on 10/06/2010 17:25:47 it wasn't a bug and hence not an exploit (as con-notated here)
it was a major design flaw: some items were completely off the scales and since the mineral compression nerf 3 years ago, the NPC-sold shuttles and afterburners - and let's not forget pos mods - reprocessing should have been considered.
CCP ****ed it up like an Xbox-Live designer creating battle.net 2.0 - and now won't take proper responsibility by going taking the easy way out causing collateral damage left, right and center.
one fail leading to another fail, the CCP way Ö
Ç: no, i haven't invested in this. this entire PI thing is pointless as long as NPC buy~ and, most of all, sell orders exist. and i'm done expecting anything "in the near future"... it's CCP - they won't do anything about it for the next 3 years - putting the gist back into logistics |
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Syn Callibri
Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.06.10 17:54:00 -
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D.I.L.L.A.G.A.F.
-also-
You were warned...welcome to EvE.
(The views expressed may not be those of Blacklight Inc.) |
Stephanie MacKenzie
Minmatar Farsight Enterprises LLC Independent Faction
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Posted - 2010.06.10 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Stephanie MacKenzie on 10/06/2010 18:16:05
Originally by: Roemy Schneider it wasn't a bug and hence not an exploit (as con-notated here)
it was a major design flaw:
From Wikipedia (I CBA to grab a programming book to correct your fail):
Quote: A software bug is the common term used to describe an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program or system that produces an incorrect or unexpected result, or causes it to behave in unintended ways.
It was a bug. HTFU. ----- "You want FIVE BIRRION EESK!!?? F U!!! TOO BAD!! HERE BOMB!!"
Edited from Rez Valintine's original |
Drykor
Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.06.10 18:21:00 -
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Pity they didn't catch them all. You deserved it.
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Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point.
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Posted - 2010.06.10 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Stephanie MacKenzie Edited by: Stephanie MacKenzie on 10/06/2010 18:16:05
Originally by: Roemy Schneider it wasn't a bug and hence not an exploit (as con-notated here)
it was a major design flaw:
From Wikipedia (I CBA to grab a programming book to correct your fail):
Quote: A software bug is the common term used to describe an error, flaw, mistake, failure, or fault in a computer program or system that produces an incorrect or unexpected result, or causes it to behave in unintended ways.
It was a bug. HTFU.
cool... editing the important stuff out, arguing about semantics and spicing it up with a "HTFU"
where do these teenagers alays come from during summer? - putting the gist back into logistics |
Ekrid
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.06.12 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ekrid on 12/06/2010 04:32:35
Originally by: Zartrader Op reminds me of someone who steals a TV then complains to the owner when it don't work. When the owner says 'get lost' he gets all self righteous about it. Classic.
more like when someone steals your tv on your property, injures themselves in the process, then sues you, the only difference being at least CCP isn't THAT ******ed to allow the suing to take place, unlike laws in some places that help criminals sue for hurting themselves on your property. silver lining about it being not like real life there. alts are for people with a USD/life ratio higher than adolfs K/D in WWII. - Ekrid
" i'll log my alt in and check if the station is clear". -Yeah, such a fierce carebear pirate you are- |
Zelda Wei
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Posted - 2010.06.12 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Durzel
Originally by: Dreed Roberts It is a bug, not an exploit.
It was a bug you exploited.
QFT.
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Casmy Blue
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Posted - 2010.06.12 11:19:00 -
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Did you seriously think, though, that CCP would allow the essential destruction of the PI system by letting people keep the P4 modules (an endless supply of them, by the way) before the system even launched?
I reprocessed a few modules myself, but I certainly turned them back into the originals as soon as we saw "broken X P4 item" showing up on the test server.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2010.06.12 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zelda Wei
Originally by: Durzel
Originally by: Dreed Roberts It is a bug, not an exploit.
It was a bug you exploited.
QFT.
No, it wasn't a bug he exploited. It was a bug that people embraced, there is a subtle difference _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
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Qoi
New Eden Warriors
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Posted - 2010.06.12 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2
Somehow minerals and construction parts were not recoverable which indicates they were aware of reprocessing.
They could just have put the construction components into ramTypeRequirements so they are not affected by waste, it doesn't necessarily have to do anything with reprocessing. Maybe they didn't think of that.
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Ferdio Ricotez
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.12 13:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ferdio Ricotez on 12/06/2010 13:44:34 Cry some moar -----
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