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gazarsgo Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:22:00 - [31] From official rules: Quote: 1. Each team has 100 points with which to select their ships. Teams must use a minimum of 50 points. Quote: All penalties are incurred at the tournament organizer's discretion. Decisions are final. Penalties may be levied against a player or team and may include but are not limited to: ... * Ban from competing for one or more matches. * Ban from competing for the remainder of the tournament, and/or any future tournaments. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Math is hard.
Widemouth Deepthroat	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:25:00 - [32] I would like to see them banned from at least the next tournament just so we can be sure they learned their lesson.
NTRabbit Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:25:00 - [33] Originally by: Suitonia If CCP Claw caught it before the match you would have down right been disqualified and knocked out of the tournament anyway. If memory serves, rather than being booted on the spot they would have dropped a ship - likely the Taranis - and the rest of the team would have started with a 50% HP penalty. ------
Awesome Possum	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:25:00 - [34] EVE Online, we can't add to 100. ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:27:00 - [35] personally i woulda just made them leave a random ship at home, but dunno what claw would do
Kurj Valdoria Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Suitonia If CCP Claw caught it before the match you would have down right been disqualified and knocked out of the tournament anyway. So claiming it is somehow his fault and that he should give you a fair chance because he didn't notice your mistake right away is nothing short of ****ed, because had he noticed you wouldn't have gotten a chance at all. You **ed up, not Claw, deal with it. Or they did notice and decided to let us roll them anyway.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:31:00 - [37] Originally by: NTRabbit If memory serves, rather than being booted on the spot they would have dropped a ship - likely the Taranis - and the rest of the team would have started with a 50% HP penalty. I think I remember last year there was a team fielding too many points, iirc they got their logistics removed but didnt get a HP penalty.
Derwent Free Lapland The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:31:00 - [38] Originally by: Suitonia If CCP Claw caught it before the match you would have down right been disqualified and knocked out of the tournament anyway. So claiming it is somehow his fault and that he should give you a fair chance because he didn't notice your mistake right away is nothing short of ****ed, because had he noticed you wouldn't have gotten a chance at all. You **ed up, not Claw, deal with it. No. If it got cought before the match we would of been advised to discard a ship to not breach the 100 point limit
Awesome Possum	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:33:00 - [39] Originally by: Derwent Originally by: Suitonia If CCP Claw caught it before the match you would have down right been disqualified and knocked out of the tournament anyway. So claiming it is somehow his fault and that he should give you a fair chance because he didn't notice your mistake right away is nothing short of ****ed, because had he noticed you wouldn't have gotten a chance at all. You **ed up, not Claw, deal with it. No. If it got cought before the match we would of been advised to discard a ship to not breach the 100 point limit You have a calculator in your client. You know how many points each ship is worth. Why didn't YOU catch it? ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Orvar Skallespjut	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:35:00 - [40] Originally by: Widemouth Deepthroat They get full points due to you forfeit the match due to cheating. if that was true shouldnt kadeshi get 0 points then? ccp claw is beeing very inconsistent whit his rulings here. kadeshi ****ed up yes, but so did the referee. done is done and i think there is 0% chance that kadeshi will go thru now. but there would be good if these type of things are ironed out. arbitrary rulings doesnt make a good show.

Viper ShizzIe Habitual Euthanasia Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Derwent Originally by: Suitonia If CCP Claw caught it before the match you would have down right been disqualified and knocked out of the tournament anyway. So claiming it is somehow his fault and that he should give you a fair chance because he didn't notice your mistake right away is nothing short of ****ed, because had he noticed you wouldn't have gotten a chance at all. You **ed up, not Claw, deal with it. No. If it got cought before the match we would of been advised to discard a ship to not breach the 100 point limit We discarded your team shortly after the match began so it didn't really matter.
Tertiacero Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:39:00 - [42] Originally by: Derwent Originally by: Suitonia If CCP Claw caught it before the match you would have down right been disqualified and knocked out of the tournament anyway. So claiming it is somehow his fault and that he should give you a fair chance because he didn't notice your mistake right away is nothing short of ****ed, because had he noticed you wouldn't have gotten a chance at all. You **ed up, not Claw, deal with it. No. If it got cought before the match we would of been advised to discard a ship to not breach the 100 point limit Whoops! Looks like someone didn't make it to the final weekend. Maybe next time you'll remember to count your own points instead of relying on a dev to catch your mistake pre-game. And according to the rules, CCP Claw can do whatever he wants to penalize you. Up to and including banning you from all future tournaments in addition to this one.
Orvar Skallespjut	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:41:00 - [43] Originally by: Viper **zIe Originally by: Derwent Originally by: Suitonia If CCP Claw caught it before the match you would have down right been disqualified and knocked out of the tournament anyway. So claiming it is somehow his fault and that he should give you a fair chance because he didn't notice your mistake right away is nothing short of ****ed, because had he noticed you wouldn't have gotten a chance at all. You **ed up, not Claw, deal with it. No. If it got cought before the match we would of been advised to discard a ship to not breach the 100 point limit We discarded your team shortly after the match began so it didn't really matter. it obviously mattered cus whitout the penalty they would have gone thru. or am i reading this wrong?
Deja Thoris Invicta. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:41:00 - [44] If I have this right the match was stopped and then a deduction took place. Seems a bit of a meh way to do it. However, placing the blame for the points mess up instead of accepting the blame isn't going to earn you sympathy. In a prior tourney when this was discovered the offending team lost a random ship which happened to be a logi. I'm not sure how many pilots you fielded but all of them could have picked up the mistake prior to the match start.
lol internets North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:42:00 - [45] The Kadeshi was performing too terribly to get enough points to pass towards the semis anyway, their terribleness didn't mean anything
Gecko O'Bac H A V O C Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:42:00 - [46] Edited by: Gecko O''Bac on 13/06/2010 21:43:53 Originally by: Awesome Possum EVE Online, we can't add to 100. Which is quite ironic given that eve is also famous for its industrial side, which has gained it names like "Spreadsheets Online" or "Eve online: Age of Excel". Heck, we also get an IN GAME calculator!
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:44:00 - [47] kadeshi you couldnt count your own freakin points and STILL lost to blastermoas seriously gtfo - Gob
Kirtur Muhaha Gallente Ragnarok Rising THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:45:00 - [48] Unfortunately it looks as though kadeshi will still pass on thru to finals over the space police (sniff) and beyond virginity based on tie breaker rules... I have to say I am disappointed at the inconsistency of penalties in this tourney, and Im really hoping I am wrong and Space Police move in instead :D My Head Is On Loose But The Screws Are Tight
Orvar Skallespjut	Posted - 2010.06.13 21:49:00 - [49] neither of you are going thru.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:04:00 - [50] Originally by: Kirtur Muhaha Unfortunately it looks as though kadeshi will still pass on thru to finals over the space police (sniff) and beyond virginity based on tie breaker rules... I have to say I am disappointed at the inconsistency of penalties in this tourney, and Im really hoping I am wrong and Space Police move in instead :D nah kadeshi are ranked 33 you're 34

Kirtur Muhaha Gallente Ragnarok Rising THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:08:00 - [51] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Kirtur Muhaha Unfortunately it looks as though kadeshi will still pass on thru to finals over the space police (sniff) and beyond virginity based on tie breaker rules... I have to say I am disappointed at the inconsistency of penalties in this tourney, and Im really hoping I am wrong and Space Police move in instead :D nah kadeshi are ranked 33 you're 34 Yes, I just saw that :( well at least it was a good run... I'll be pulling for you dystopia :D My Head Is On Loose But The Screws Are Tight
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:12:00 - [52] Thanks me too :D
Olivor	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:16:00 - [53] Maybe you could have a word with Agony and go through instead of them since they never ~deserved~ their first win?
sliver 0xD exiles. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:17:00 - [54] Originally by: Deja Thoris If I have this right the match was stopped and then a deduction took place. Seems a bit of a meh way to do it. However, placing the blame for the points mess up instead of accepting the blame isn't going to earn you sympathy. In a prior tourney when this was discovered the offending team lost a random ship which happened to be a logi. I'm not sure how many pilots you fielded but all of them could have picked up the mistake prior to the match start. i like your view. the point mess up is clear. we ****ed up on that. there is nothing to blame becouse we know we are the ones to blame. but u have to accept that CCP made a mistake also. And when they find out they correct there mistake by stoping the match in the middel of a fight. --- Somebody needs a hug!
Heng Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:19:00 - [55] Sounds like Kadeshi should keep up the tradition and make a song about it. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1006/109points.mp3
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:36:00 - [56] I'm going to print this thread out, and press it against my loins to absorb the precious grief-molecules contained therein.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:41:00 - [57] Fun match regardless.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.06.13 22:47:00 - [58] Originally by: Nybbas Fun match regardless. Probably the only reason it happened. -------- All I want is a better mankind.

CCP Claw	Posted - 2010.06.13 23:27:00 - [59] The simple fact is that Dystopia demolished you and you had an extra point; you barely killed the ships you did as is, and you were not going to kill anything else (which is why the match was stopped). This is called adjudication. Honestly, you're lucky you got as many points as you did, as without that Taranis charge (if we'd removed a ship before the match) you probably wouldn't have had the Basilisk either. Anyway, yes i should have spotted it before the match, but that doesnt excuse an illegal setup.

Viper ShizzIe Habitual Euthanasia Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.13 23:29:00 - [60] Originally by: CCP Claw The simple fact is that Dystopia demolished you and you had an extra point; you barely killed the ships you did as is, and you were not going to kill anything else (which is why the match was stopped). This is called adjudication. Honestly, you're lucky you got as many points as you did, as without that Taranis charge (if we'd removed a ship before the match) you probably wouldn't have had the Basilisk either. Anyway, yes i should have spotted it before the match, but that doesnt excuse an illegal setup. BUT THAT MOA WAS GOING TO DIE watches video sees him tanking all incoming damage



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