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Terranid Meester Tactical Assault and Recon Unit	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:18:00 - [121] Edited by: Terranid Meester on 14/06/2010 19:18:36 Originally by: methodmo clutching at straws Why would they let you through when you had an illegal setup regardless of the fact that they and you missed it at the begining?
Conmen Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2010.06.14 19:59:00 - [122] Originally by: Shade Millith Points rule : To stop teams feilding too many points 60 day rule : To stop alt teams. Both have been upheld to the spirit of the rule. Don't like it? Go away. This man is the hero of the land BEARCITY
Nkalv Fina Flickor Fiser Inte	Posted - 2010.06.14 20:47:00 - [123] Originally by: Shade Millith spirit of the rule. spirit of the rule? Hold one let me get my bong and Grateful Dead t-shirt. So we have gone from american idol judges to hippie court, awsome i can relate more to that.
Edna Sputum Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.06.14 21:07:00 - [124] I feel the Kadeshi's pain. but if the positions were reversed, teh kadeshi would be at the front of the line calling for Dystopia to be booted from the tournament. ________________ You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1282973W
Nkalv Fina Flickor Fiser Inte	Posted - 2010.06.14 21:14:00 - [125] The point deduction doesnt matter to dystopia. Its OWN Alliance that benefit from it.
Dunkin McLoud	Posted - 2010.06.14 21:25:00 - [126] Originally by: Nkalv Originally by: Shade Millith spirit of the rule. spirit of the rule? Hold one let me get my bong and Grateful Dead t-shirt. So we have gone from american idol judges to hippie court, awsome i can relate more to that. Yes the spirit of the rule Voltron got disbanded because someone got ****y. They got to reform and CCP decided to not let 1 person screw up something like this. Red Overlord. A single guy who wasnt suppose to be in the game. You had a entire SHIP that wasnt suppose to be their. that is a huge advantage compared to a pilot since they could have grabbed anyone else from their alliance. Anyways the rule was to stop what happend last time, which was the 1st time they got rid of the 1st come 1st server rule for the Tournment spots. People made alt alliances to increase their chances on getting a spot. One alliance even sold their spot to allow a team to join and play in the tournement. So to make it fair for everyone they decided to make the 60day alliance rule so alt alliances could not be formed just to increase someones chances of getting a spot.(not what red overlord did)
Nkalv Fina Flickor Fiser Inte	Posted - 2010.06.14 21:30:00 - [127] Pass me what ever it is your smokeing cus its clearly stronger then my ****.
Anonymous Player	Posted - 2010.06.15 00:05:00 - [128] Originally by: Shade Millith Originally by: Anonymous Player Hurf So basicly, you're not involved, in any way shape or form. Most of the other competing teams have said "Fair deal" on the way that ROL's one pilot was handled, most of the other teams have said "Fair deal" on the way that Voltron was handled. And the other teams have said "Fair deal" on how Kadeshi was penalised. But apparently a few NPC corp alt posters/Kadeshi pilots are now angry that Kadeshi got found breaking a rule and got a slap on the wrist. Would you rather CCP Claw have decided that Kadeshi should be DQ from the next tourny? I didn't say I wasn't involved in any way, shape or form. I said I was not an alt for any of the involved alliances, IE ROL, WFV, Kadeshi, or Agony. Or even for any of the teams who would make it if those four were DQ'd. There is a big difference between not being an alt of an alliance involved with underhanded dealings, and not being involved in any way.
Anonymous Player	Posted - 2010.06.15 00:13:00 - [129] Originally by: Dunkin McLoud Originally by: Nkalv Originally by: Shade Millith spirit of the rule. spirit of the rule? Hold one let me get my bong and Grateful Dead t-shirt. So we have gone from american idol judges to hippie court, awsome i can relate more to that. Yes the spirit of the rule Voltron got disbanded because someone got **y. They got to reform and CCP decided to not let 1 person screw up something like this. Red Overlord. A single guy who wasnt suppose to be in the game. You had a entire SHIP that wasnt suppose to be their. that is a huge advantage compared to a pilot since they could have grabbed anyone else from their alliance. Anyways the rule was to stop what happend last time, which was the 1st time they got rid of the 1st come 1st server rule for the Tournment spots. People made alt alliances to increase their chances on getting a spot. One alliance even sold their spot to allow a team to join and play in the tournement.** So to make it fair for everyone they decided to make the 60day alliance rule so alt alliances could not be formed just to increase someones chances of getting a spot.(not what red overlord did) Is selling a spot so someone can compete somehow worse than selling an actual WIN in the tournament? Wow, that makes a lot of sense. If the team bought their way into the tournament and won, well they deserved to be in there obviously. If a team buys a win from another alliance (After letting the other alliance get maximum points) so both alliances get into the next round, while an alliance that played FAIRLY does not get in, that is a sham and a farce. There is no "competition" in this tournament, it's just a farce to see who gets CCP Claw off the best. Keep hanging around down there on your knees, kids. CCP Claw is apparently very pleased with what you are doing.
Shade Millith Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.06.15 01:19:00 - [130] Originally by: Anonymous Player Originally by: Shade Millith Originally by: Anonymous Player Hurf So basicly, you're not involved, in any way shape or form. Most of the other competing teams have said "Fair deal" on the way that ROL's one pilot was handled, most of the other teams have said "Fair deal" on the way that Voltron was handled. And the other teams have said "Fair deal" on how Kadeshi was penalised. But apparently a few NPC corp alt posters/Kadeshi pilots are now angry that Kadeshi got found breaking a rule and got a slap on the wrist. Would you rather CCP Claw have decided that Kadeshi should be DQ from the next tourny? I didn't say I wasn't involved in any way, shape or form. I said I was not an alt for any of the involved alliances, IE ROL, WFV, Kadeshi, or Agony. Or even for any of the teams who would make it if those four were DQ'd. There is a big difference between not being an alt of an alliance involved with underhanded dealings, and not being involved in any way. Then post with your main. Seriously, if you're gonna complain like this, have the balls to post with your main, and not an alt. Either put your money where your mouth is (Or in this case, your main/corp/alliance), or shut up. ------------------------

Normin Bates	Posted - 2010.06.15 01:48:00 - [131] You read the rules (I assume ) You got caught cheating (Intentional or not) You point fingers at other teams who broke different rules in an attempt to discredit Claw. (You failed at that BTW. The rules state he can hand out whatever penalty he wants and you can't appeal it. You read the rules didn't you?) Learn to count FFS and take your smack on the peepee like a man.
Jieter	Posted - 2010.06.15 01:52:00 - [132] Originally by: Anonymous Player Originally by: Dunkin McLoud Originally by: Nkalv Originally by: Shade Millith spirit of the rule. spirit of the rule? Hold one let me get my bong and Grateful Dead t-shirt. So we have gone from american idol judges to hippie court, awsome i can relate more to that. Yes the spirit of the rule Voltron got disbanded because someone got **y. They got to reform and CCP decided to not let 1 person screw up something like this. Red Overlord. A single guy who wasnt suppose to be in the game. You had a entire SHIP that wasnt suppose to be their. that is a huge advantage compared to a pilot since they could have grabbed anyone else from their alliance. Anyways the rule was to stop what happend last time, which was the 1st time they got rid of the 1st come 1st server rule for the Tournment spots. People made alt alliances to increase their chances on getting a spot. One alliance even sold their spot to allow a team to join and play in the tournement.** So to make it fair for everyone they decided to make the 60day alliance rule so alt alliances could not be formed just to increase someones chances of getting a spot.(not what red overlord did) Is selling a spot so someone can compete somehow worse than selling an actual WIN in the tournament? Wow, that makes a lot of sense. If the team bought their way into the tournament and won, well they deserved to be in there obviously. If a team buys a win from another alliance (After letting the other alliance get maximum points) so both alliances get into the next round, while an alliance that played FAIRLY does not get in, that is a sham and a farce. There is no "competition" in this tournament, it's just a farce to see who gets CCP Claw off the best. Keep hanging around down there on your knees, kids. CCP Claw is apparently very pleased with what you are doing. O.o since when was paying people off not a fair thing in eve o.O did i miss something?
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.06.15 03:38:00 - [133] All this talk of Kadeshi losing to blaster moas and blaster rokhs neglects to acknowledge one thing: Our Worms had salvagers instead of weapons.
An Anarchyyt Gallente GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.06.15 03:54:00 - [134] Given the difference in penalties here, I, the official Goonswarm representative, demand a retroactive bonus from our honest mistake, rather than the blatant cheating here. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Widemouth Deepthroat	Posted - 2010.06.15 04:33:00 - [135] I feel Kadeshi deserve an even harsher penalty for obviously intentional cheating. Perhaps give all team member 5bil negative wallets or some other such punishment.
Ty'lem Vek	Posted - 2010.06.15 14:58:00 - [136] Originally by: Normin Bates You read the rules (I assume ) You got caught cheating (Intentional or not) You point fingers at other teams who broke different rules in an attempt to discredit Claw. (You failed at that BTW. The rules state he can hand out whatever penalty he wants and you can't appeal it. You read the rules didn't you?) Learn to count FFS and take your smack on the peepee like a man. Actually, you entirely miss the point. No one was caught cheating at the time of the infraction. The Kadeshi commited a minor infraction by fielding a team which was one point over the maximum allowed. As a result of this, their match was stopped before the time limit was reached, AND they were docked ten points. Meanwhile, RED.OVERLORD commited a similar minor infraction in not ONE match but TWO and were allowed to continue on into the finals "in the spirit" of the tournament. BOTH teams broke the rules, spirit be damned, and yet the team punished most severely are actually newcomers to the tournament. Meanwhile, tournament veterans are let off with an "Aww, you didn't read the rules and fielded an invalid character for BOTH of your matches.. that's so cute." That's pretty messed up right there.. Kadeshi - GJ in your first AT, but you have to work on your bedside manner. P.S. - Viper ****zle: Even if Minigin cries on teamspeak, you're still one of the worst poasters in EVE history. Enjoy that. Quick, someone tell me to post with my main..
darius mclever	Posted - 2010.06.15 15:03:00 - [137] this wasn't kadeshi's first tournament.
Estios Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.15 15:03:00 - [138] 5 pages? Didnt Viper win thread on page 1 with a post pointing out you are awful, cheated, and then still lost..... So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.15 15:05:00 - [139] The Kadeshi aren't newcomers to the tourney, they've been in like 3 or more counting this one. What does ROL have to do with this anyway ? Completely different rule violations and situations, different vioalations merit different penalties. PS; viper is terrible
Ty'lem Vek	Posted - 2010.06.15 15:18:00 - [140] Edited by: Ty''lem Vek on 15/06/2010 15:21:06 Not disagreeing with you there.. but they were both relatively minor infractions.. I just find it odd that one team got the peepee slap o' Doom from Claw, and the other got.. well, nothing. Also, just to clarify my noobishness - I really thought this was Kadeshi's first tournament.. I mean, that IS why they did so poorly, right? I did, however, enjoy the all blaster Caldari team. I really don't think anyone saw that coming.

Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.15 15:35:00 - [141] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 15/06/2010 15:37:11 -10 points isn't a big penalty :P it was just bad luck for kadeshi that it stopped them from advancing - that's not claw's fault and it doesn't make the punishment unreasonable you could argue that ROL's punishment is worse since they already trained that pilot and he's part of their team (possibly an important part) now he can't take part anymore and they have to find someone to replace him Would be crippling for us if all of a sudden we couldn't use the mighty NTRabbit on our teams
Lasakywa Section XIII	Posted - 2010.06.15 16:30:00 - [142] Originally by: Tertiacero Yo Kadeshi, you know who else should have noticed that you had 101 points on the field? YOU. I would have said Goon
Derwent Free Lapland The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.06.15 17:43:00 - [143] It's dumb to think we cheated intentionally. If this was really the case do u really think we would cheat by fielding 1 extra point on the field? This was our 4th tourny we are fully aware of the rules and penalties I just think its **ed up to stop the match and deduct 10 points and its stings extra that if one of the two penelties would of not been implied we might of sailed thru to next round. The reason we did field 101 points however was due to me **ing up with a last minute intoxicated change. One of the two vagas was supose to be a huginn which is one less point but dumb as I was I didnt double check the points.
Azureite	Posted - 2010.06.15 18:03:00 - [144] I never thought I'd see the day when controversy struck EVE because players and CCP employees didn't use spreadsheets. C'mon, people. It would take, like, 2 minutes to make and 15 seconds to fill out for each fight. Not. That. Difficult.
Nkalv Fina Flickor Fiser Inte	Posted - 2010.06.15 19:02:00 - [145] Edited by: Nkalv on 15/06/2010 19:02:19 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk you could argue that ROL's punishment is worse If ROL would have got -10 punishment they wouldnt have gone thru, so your gona have a hard time argueing that.
Shiverbrood Suspicious Packages The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.06.15 19:30:00 - [146] While we have a well read thread about kadeshi i would like to announce we now offer math 101 classes.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.15 19:46:00 - [147] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk you could argue that ROL's punishment is worse If ROL would have got -10 punishment they wouldnt have gone thru, so your gona have a hard time argueing that. touchT i think we've all learned a valuable lesson here, don't lose matches and you won't have to worry about -10 points preventing you from advancing !
Jieter	Posted - 2010.06.15 19:52:00 - [148] Originally by: Nkalv Edited by: Nkalv on 15/06/2010 19:02:19 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk you could argue that ROL's punishment is worse If ROL would have got -10 punishment they wouldnt have gone thru, so your gona have a hard time argueing that. if they got a -10 punishment the first time they would have been fighting LR instead of co2 which imo would have been better for them.
DONJUAN v Tarnak inc. The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.06.15 20:14:00 - [149] i understand my alliance emo reaction to this topic but whats everyone else's excuse?
Care Bearington	Posted - 2010.06.15 21:39:00 - [150] In fairness, CCP are running the tourney so it's their rules. If you don't like it, complain about it more on the internet.



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