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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1528
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:49:00 -
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OK, just a ideal. I know we can openly duel in EVE under certain circumstances. For instance, two players can drop containers and they loot each others - or you can be in the same corp and duel without interference from Concorde. Dropping containers is so passe and to me an unnecessary prerequisite and joining a corp just to duel is not a very good option either.
I would like a simpler way of going about dueling.
So would anyone be open to the ideal of a "Dueling Button" ? All it would do is flag each participant is an temporary enemy and allow for the players to shoot it out - but only to the point of almost destruction. You can't pod your opponent. Before you can destroy their ship both parties weapons are made inoperable and a winner is declared.
Is this a bad ideal or is it something others would like to see added to the game as a way to practice PvP - without going full on PvP and without all the BS of dropping containers or joining a corp?
If you hate the ideal - tell me to go biomass. 
If you like the ideal - tell me you'd love me long time. 
Oh and if this has been brought up in the past, forgive me, I must have missed it. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2047
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:52:00 -
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This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Elvis Fett
The 12th Legion
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:56:00 -
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Your idea is not going to be received well. It has been suggested before and shot down before. Arena combat has little place in EVE is the general consensus.
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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1528
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:56:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.
Well, how would it be out of place? It is just a consent button that tells Concorde it is a friendly duel. Also, unless I am mistaken, there are many things in EVE that are in the realm of magical ponies. So I don't think it is beyond the game to incorporate something like this.
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Thronde
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:57:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.
That about sums it up. There already is one, it's called Undock. |
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1528
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:57:00 -
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Elvis Fett wrote:Your idea is not going to be received well. It has been suggested before and shot down before. Arena combat has little place in EVE is the general consensus.
Why is dueling so bad? |
Quaaid
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
54
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:58:00 -
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I think in a pvp oriented sandbox game it's sinful to not have a mechanic to orchestrate these (and other match type) scenarios at will. All current mechanics that could be attributed to this are flawed as it relies on the integrity of the people involved.
No true testing can occur outside of groups that have earned high levels of trust with each other. |
Benjamin Eastwood
Oshaima Exports
64
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:58:00 -
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There is nothing in EVE considered to be in the realm of magical ponies, save for Test alliance try-hard space.
"Endless ISK, the sinews of war" |
Serena Serene
Selective Hearing
Nearly Feared
1421
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Posted - 2012.07.17 16:58:00 -
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I don't think a "hey Concord, it's okay if that guy shoots at me for this duel"-button would be a bad thing.
I don't think it should automatically prevent ship destruction, though. |
Zimmy Zeta
Paramount Commerce
Masters of Flying Objects
1150
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:00:00 -
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Welp, everybody could install the Sisi client and duke it out as much as they want with zero risk involved.
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Emperor Salazar
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
573
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:03:00 -
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Drop a can. |
Smoking Blunts
ZC Industries
Dark Stripes
333
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:05:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.
i really want this button now, dam you and your magical ponies
OMG when can i get a pic here
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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1528
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:06:00 -
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Emperor Salazar wrote:Drop a can.
Really....really...
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
701
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:09:00 -
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As long as it's restricted to "click butan, get mutual aggression", yes, why not. But no safe zones, no instances, no forced ship or equipment restrictions, no stopping ship destruction, nothing that wouldn't happen in a canflip scenario. |
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1528
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:13:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:As long as it's restricted to "click butan, get mutual aggression", yes, why not. But no safe zones, no instances, no forced ship or equipment restrictions, no stopping ship destruction, nothing that wouldn't happen in a canflip scenario.
Exaclty...nothing special...just mutual aggression - no special room or arena...just start shooting. |
Sugar Kyle
The humbleless Crew
Capital Punishment.
66
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:13:00 -
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As a concept I can see the appeal. However, it creates a tiny personal instemce and safety. No more worries about their corp mates. No worry about ship destruction. No chance to screw up with not looting the can at the proper time.
Where is the risk? Next people will want a ranking system and duel reports and then they declare that PvP has no need outside of honorable duels where real people only fight evenly matched foes.
It is too slippery slope. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2051
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:15:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:As long as it's restricted to "click butan, get mutual aggression", yes, why not. But no safe zones, no instances, no forced ship or equipment restrictions, no stopping ship destruction, nothing that wouldn't happen in a canflip scenario. Exaclty...nothing special...just mutual aggression - no special room or arena...just start shooting.
If all you want is to be able to pewpew without having to deal with ******** game mechanics, you do that by leaving highsec / lowsec, not by introducing more ******** game mechanics.
I spar pretty much every time I log in. Nullsec is nice, no stupidity to stand between you and your fun.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
YuuKnow
362
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:16:00 -
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No.
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THE L0CK
Denying You Access
637
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:18:00 -
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Why fix what isn't broke. The can's have worked just as well as your little button for the past decade without the worry of seeing 20 pop ups from the spazmatic wonder over yonder.
Do you smell what the Lock's cooking? |
Lord Ryan
Quantum Cats Syndicate
541
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:18:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.
I want a Magical Love Pony!
-á"Nerf it cause I can't fly it".
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
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Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
116
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:20:00 -
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No,
because then it is formal and i can already hear the noobs 2 months later crying for instanced fights because the other guy last night had a friend with a logi "...and that is clearly an exploit to a system that was invented for 1v1 PvP..."
No No No No! |
Quaaid
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
54
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:21:00 -
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I think it's rather ironic that CCP would put so much effort into balancing fight scenarios for the controversial and crowd pleasing Alliance Tournaments, yet not develop/pass any of that functionality down to the common capsuleer.
That is my closing argument for developing Dueling / Small Fleet / Controlled PvP scenarios for the masses: Alliance Tournament gets to do it. |
Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
1528
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:23:00 -
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Karak Terrel wrote:No,
because then it is formal and i can already hear the noobs 2 months later crying for instanced fights because the other guy last night had a friend with a logi "...and that is clearly an exploit to a system that was invented for 1v1 PvP..."
No No No No!
You know, it wouldn't be hard to code the inability to rep someone in a duel. Just make it so that isn't possible - you know.
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Alara IonStorm
2669
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:24:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:This idea is about as out of place in EVE as a "summon magical love ponies" button.
Celestia could kick tests ass any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
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Jeanova
She and her alt
0
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:26:00 -
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No.
First, we don't need WoWish childness in grim reality of EvE, second - its doesn't make any sense from logical (roleplay) point. |
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
548
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:27:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:No,
because then it is formal and i can already hear the noobs 2 months later crying for instanced fights because the other guy last night had a friend with a logi "...and that is clearly an exploit to a system that was invented for 1v1 PvP..."
No No No No! You know, it wouldn't be hard to code the inability to rep someone in a duel. Just make it so that isn't possible - you know.
You'd think they would have done this ages ago to deal with nuetral RR's and wardecs......
This whole thread is bad. You want a canless duel, go to nullsec. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
957
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:29:00 -
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I vote for biomass.
Shiva Furnace - now recruiting solid pilots! |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
116
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:29:00 -
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Ginseng Jita wrote:Karak Terrel wrote:No,
because then it is formal and i can already hear the noobs 2 months later crying for instanced fights because the other guy last night had a friend with a logi "...and that is clearly an exploit to a system that was invented for 1v1 PvP..."
No No No No! You know, it wouldn't be hard to code the inability to rep someone in a duel. Just make it so that isn't possible - you know.
See, my 2 months where actually 2minutes. To scam someone during a 1v1 is essential. I would not play this game if i didn't had the possibility to do such things or that such things happen to me. |
stoicfaux
1251
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:32:00 -
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+1, but no private instance. Having the computers shut off the weapons before exploding would be spiffy.
It would open the sandbox up to entrepreneurs (i.e. players) holding tournaments and whatnot instead of relying on CCP to provide such content.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Thomas Kreshant
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
121
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Posted - 2012.07.17 17:35:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Why fix what isn't broke. The can's have worked just as well as your little button for the past decade without the worry of seeing 20 pop ups from the spazmatic wonder over yonder.
The can trick won't work when they introduce the new crime watch changes, if you loot someones can aka commit any type of crime you go flashy to every single person in eve.
The duel button would be to allow those people doing competitions like the Eve Radio types to hold their frig/dessie fights without getting blapped by 30 people nearby I guess. |
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