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Forum Foreplay Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:36:00 - [31] - Quote Terminal Insanity wrote: Forum Foreplay wrote: Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off? by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness. No... You do the standard camp the weaker routine and the minute anything that you can't handle shows up you run away and call the fact that you fled like a yellow dog with your tail between your legs without getting killed a victory. That is not success, that is you losing the gate and running away. Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
Terminal Insanity The Filthy Ones 639	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:41:00 - [32] - Quote Forum Foreplay wrote: ... Says the person who cant kill me. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon 76	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:46:00 - [33] - Quote ...not...another...orca...thread...ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz....
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 736	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:47:00 - [34] - Quote Forum Foreplay wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: Forum Foreplay wrote: Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off? by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness. No... You do the standard camp the weaker routine and the minute anything that you can't handle shows up you run away and call the fact that you fled like a yellow dog with your tail between your legs without getting killed a victory. That is not success, that is you losing the gate and running away. This is pretty much par for the course in nearly all PvP in Eve-Online. While his posts stink of hubris he would be an idiot to stick around and fight something that actually stood a chance against him. People who "fight fair" in Eve-Online are just victims that haven't realized it yet. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Cactusfrankie Advent Shinra Securities Inc. 1	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:50:00 - [35] - Quote So OP, what happens when I shoot your orca first?
Forum Foreplay Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:56:00 - [36] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: Forum Foreplay wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: Forum Foreplay wrote: Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off? by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness. No... You do the standard camp the weaker routine and the minute anything that you can't handle shows up you run away and call the fact that you fled like a yellow dog with your tail between your legs without getting killed a victory. That is not success, that is you losing the gate and running away. This is pretty much par for the course in nearly all PvP in Eve-Online. While his posts stink of hubris he would be an idiot to stick around and fight something that actually stood a chance against him. People who "fight fair" in Eve-Online are just victims that haven't realized it yet. All true, but most of us dont call running away a victory... Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief 824	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:57:00 - [37] - Quote Cactusfrankie wrote: So OP, what happens when I shoot your orca first? Perhaps with stealth bombers who locked you all so you got to take the time to store the T3s before jumping? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux 1645	Posted - 2012.07.17 23:58:00 - [38] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Cactusfrankie wrote: So OP, what happens when I shoot your orca first? Perhaps with stealth bombers who locked you all so you got to take the time to store the T3s before jumping? You can stow while locked. You just can't get back in the ship. -Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
Garreth Vlox Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 12	Posted - 2012.07.18 00:16:00 - [39] - Quote Terminal Insanity wrote: It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves. Enjoy ROFL, how long do you think that orca is gonna last? Besides who cares about a t3 kill that much, If I see an orca and a T3 on the same gate i'm killing the orca every time.
Terminal Insanity The Filthy Ones 642	Posted - 2012.07.18 00:19:00 - [40] - Quote Garreth Vlox wrote: ROFL, how long do you think that orca is gonna last? Besides who cares about a t3 kill that much, If I see an orca and a T3 on the same gate i'm killing the orca every time. 1) forever. 2) I do. 3) come try. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP

hedge betts Shiyurida State Protectorate Caldari State 65	Posted - 2012.07.18 00:21:00 - [41] - Quote +1 for thinking out side the box interesting idea, and i can see how it would work. but since you decided to forum wh0re for likes and go public, it will be countered ( as suggested above). you should have kept it to your buddies and just be happy with being a Kill board muppet. Cup the balls, and work the shaft
Terminal Insanity The Filthy Ones 642	Posted - 2012.07.18 00:52:00 - [42] - Quote http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14049451 or even better; http://eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=5420 and note the time elapsed between each kill for the past... week. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Terminal Insanity The Filthy Ones 643	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:14:00 - [43] - Quote Bonus points for keeping several ships in the orca so that when one is about to die, you can hop in your armor tanked one to finish the job "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Fiona Tsero the Forward Initiative Mildly Sober 11	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:34:00 - [44] - Quote People like you are why piracy is dead.
Gorn Arming Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation 16	Posted - 2012.07.18 01:53:00 - [45] - Quote Putting multiple T3s inside an orca makes it a tempting ganking target even in highsec. Besides, what's to stop me from just smartbombing your pod as soon as you stow the ship? Finally, why on Earth would anyone give a damn about a low/high gatecamp? You can at best inconvenience the truly ********; all the important cargo goes by jump freighter anyway.
Richard Desturned GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1354	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:13:00 - [46] - Quote Terminal Insanity wrote: Logging out will ensure the orca is not destroyed since it logged out before it was aggressed you're actually wrong there a rogue goon
Azami Nevinyrall Project Cerberus Caldari State Capturing 323	Posted - 2012.07.18 02:43:00 - [47] - Quote Terminal Insanity wrote: It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive (or shitfit) tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves. Enjoy You never get away... Have 2-4 Smartbombing BSs jump in and burn back to gate whilest lighting smartbombs and scram everything, light cyno with recon and have as much stealthbombers jump in at range and push the orca through the gate, where a group of Tornados just landed. PODs blow up from smartbombs, gank Tornadoes take out Orca in highsec filled with shinys. Thrasher or 2 to take out Orca POD.... Oh wait, I did this before... Questions? Do you know what a sht-barometer is? It measures the sht-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t...
Terminal Insanity The Filthy Ones 643	Posted - 2012.07.18 03:22:00 - [48] - Quote Azami Nevinyrall wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive (or shitfit) tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves. Enjoy You never get away... Have 2-4 Smartbombing BSs jump in and burn back to gate whilest lighting smartbombs and scram everything, light cyno with recon and have as much stealthbombers jump in at range and push the orca through the gate, where a group of Tornados just landed. PODs blow up from smartbombs, gank Tornadoes take out Orca in highsec filled with shinys. Thrasher or 2 to take out Orca POD.... Oh wait, I did this before... Questions? This simply wouldnt work. 100mn AB tech3 cruisers can burn back to the orca, dock, and then the orca can jump into highsec, before your smartbombing battleships get anywhere near it to damage OR bump it. Unless of course im being an idiot and have my t3's 50km away from the orca... but i'll just choose to not be stupid about that. Richard Desturned wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: Logging out will ensure the orca is not destroyed since it logged out before it was aggressed you're actually wrong there actually i am correct. If you log out without ANY aggression timers, your ship will warp exactly 1au away in a random direction, and then vanish after 60 seconds. It is -impossible- to interrupt this e-warp unless the ship was ALREADY agressed before the e-warp was initiated. Try it on sisi if you dont believe me. Log out a slow-warping ship, and then try to tackle it. And watch it e-warp anyway. If you manage to probe it out in its e-warp'd position within 60 seconds and tackle it, it will still vanish in 60 seconds. And if the player logs back in while its still there (or you wait for him to come back) you are unable to interrupt its e-warp back to its original position on the gate ether. The aggression mechanic change that happened fairly recently only effects ships that were ALREADY SHOT AT before they attempted to log out. "War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2090	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:08:00 - [49] - Quote I find it kind of strange that your opinion of "winning" is the following: Staring at a gate for hours Shooting the t1 frigates that come by Tucking your tail and running the instant a real fight shows up at your doorstep Does the actual combat mean nothing to you? Is your goal to pad your killboard so you can wave your epeen in the face of other combat-averse stat whores? If your goal is tears, some advice: big kills hurt a lot more. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 2090	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:09:00 - [50] - Quote Terminal Insanity wrote: actually i am correct. If you log out without ANY aggression timers, your ship will warp exactly 1au away in a random direction, and then vanish after 60 seconds. It is -impossible- to interrupt this e-warp unless the ship was ALREADY agressed before the e-warp was initiated. It is more than possible to probe you out and take your orca out in that timeframe if you really want it dead. Happens every single damn day in nullsec. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance

Corina Jarr Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built 1067	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:14:00 - [51] - Quote Akirei Scytale wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: actually i am correct. If you log out without ANY aggression timers, your ship will warp exactly 1au away in a random direction, and then vanish after 60 seconds. It is -impossible- to interrupt this e-warp unless the ship was ALREADY agressed before the e-warp was initiated. It is more than possible to probe you out and take your orca out in that timeframe if you really want it dead. Happens every single damn day in nullsec. Also I'm sure someone would shoot the Orca at least once before they T3s were stowed. Thats all it would take for it to be in space until its dead, even in HS.
Spurty D00M. Northern Coalition. 364	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:43:00 - [52] - Quote Harboring criminals flag needed. Jump a ship that contains 'flagged' ships into high sec and BOOM-HEAD-SHOT. Loop hole closed. ---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.
Joshua Aivoras Tech IV Industries The Methodical Alliance 204	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:47:00 - [53] - Quote What about the part where they gank the Orca after it jumps? 95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums.
Yolanta Geezenstack GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated 31	Posted - 2012.07.18 04:58:00 - [54] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I'm mean seriously, we're awful at internet spaceships. For not "giving a crap" you wrote a lot of replies in this thread. :P hedge betts Shiyurida wrote: but since you decided to forum wh0re for likes and go public, it will be countered ( as suggested above). you should have kept it to your buddies and just be happy with being a Kill board muppet. This. I mean, it's a great theory and easily be proven or falsified by just doing it (and by doing it I mean over a longer run, let's say 4 weeks at least). And the ones posting theories about how it could be countered then get the chance to prove their theory right or wrong. But right now it has the touch of EFT warriors, talking about a theory.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 1638	Posted - 2012.07.18 05:16:00 - [55] - Quote Akirei Scytale wrote: I find it kind of strange that your opinion of "winning" is the following: Staring at a gate for hours Shooting the t1 frigates that come by Tucking your tail and running the instant a real fight shows up at your doorstep Does the actual combat mean nothing to you? Is your goal to pad your killboard so you can wave your epeen in the face of other combat-averse stat whores? I often wonder the same thing about the thousands of pilots that do that every day from high sec belts to low/null gates. Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks
baltec1 Bat Country 1653	Posted - 2012.07.18 05:32:00 - [56] - Quote I find this far more impressive.
Abdiel Kavash Paladin Order Fidelas Constans 706	Posted - 2012.07.18 08:14:00 - [57] - Quote Terminal Insanity wrote: Forum Foreplay wrote: ... Says the person who cant kill me. Uhh... by your logic... why go through all those hoops? It's so simple: 1) Create a character. 2) Never undock. You can't kill me, so I've won!
Vera Algaert Republic University Minmatar Republic 243	Posted - 2012.07.18 08:18:00 - [58] - Quote Corina Jarr wrote: Terminal Insanity wrote: It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves. Enjoy I would like to see that Orca live long enough to get to 0 at the gate, and long enough for the T3s to be dock in it. As Liang Nuren has already pointed out - Heretic Nation uses this technique in Amamake with great success (the Orca can just warp to 0 on the gate if it hasn't already been there when the fight started).
Soldarius TreadStone Standard The 99 Percent 264	Posted - 2012.07.18 08:45:00 - [59] - Quote It's amazing how many ways people come up with not to pvp in Eve. OP, I find your idea less than stellar. But I'm not surprised. You're a gate-camper. 1. Position a fleet of alpha tornados on the hisec side, along with a prober. 2. Fire a shot at the Orca while T3 pilots are stowing their ships. 3. Laugh as your "unkillable" Orca jumps. 4. Laugh more as your "unkillable" Orca pilot logs out when he sees the hisec gatecamp. 5. Probe out aggressed Orca and kill it with suicide fleet. 6. Profit 7. (my favorite) Post on forums with kb links about how stupid and fail the entire concept was. "How do you kill that which has no life?"
dexington Lysergic.acid.diethylamide 54	Posted - 2012.07.18 08:49:00 - [60] - Quote Tarsus Zateki wrote: All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I care about the odd goon getting kill on a gate, and when it happens i'll be right here on the forums, so he will have a shoulder to cry on. "Go ahead, Cornelius, you can cry."



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