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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 22:59:00 -
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It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1067
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:01:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy
I would like to see that Orca live long enough to get to 0 at the gate, and long enough for the T3s to be dock in it. |
Mallak Azaria
331
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:02:00 -
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And what makes you think they won't bump the Orca off the gate during the engagment? |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
735
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:02:00 -
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Because we wouldn't expend a considerable number of Tornadoes suicide ganking an Orca that pissed us off right?
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1643
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:03:00 -
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Sorry, but this is a patented Heretic Nation technique. You'll have to pay them 1 billion ISK.
-Liang
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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:06:00 -
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Yes, you need to get the orca in there initially. Done easily with a cloak and a couple of scouts.
Yes its possible to bump the orca off gate, But simply JUMP THE GATE before the orca is bumped off it. With a Teamspeak connection you are able to ensure all parties are aboard the orca before its jump to concord controlled airspace.
The camp is currently successful and is active right now as we speak. Superior forces are being laughed at while this tiny camp of noboies is 100% impossible to kill.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
735
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:09:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:
The camp is currently successful and is active right now as we speak. Superior forces are being laughed at while this tiny camp of noboies is 100% impossible to kill.
I to am good at making up utter bullshit. I'm currently receiving a back rub from Mila Kunis.
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:09:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Because we wouldn't expend a considerable number of Tornadoes suicide ganking an Orca that pissed us off right?
A tornado can not shoot what it can not see. When alphafleet appears, my pokemon go back in a special cloak'a'ball.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Arkturus McFadden
Sonoran Shadow
Black Mesa Complex
115
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:09:00 -
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Not entirely sure of the effectiveness of that tactic.. but in a generalized scope.. a small gang of ships tends to do immensely well in 0.0. They move much faster then big fleets and can get the kill and run for their lives before a fc and/or pvp pilots can respond to the screaming in intel channel.
Of course, it all comes down to the FCs experience 80% of the time..
A good FC can muster a big amount of ships and trap that small gang.. then it just becomes a waiting game or a hunt..depends on the environment. |
Khanh'rhh
1636
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:11:00 -
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It's not 100% impossible, it's just a lot more difficult than it has any reason to be.
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"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
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D3F4ULT
137
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:11:00 -
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annnnddd its gone.
Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1353
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:11:00 -
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because a supercarrier totally won't melt an orca in like one volley
a rogue goon |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:11:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:
The camp is currently successful and is active right now as we speak. Superior forces are being laughed at while this tiny camp of noboies is 100% impossible to kill.
I to am good at making up utter bullshit. I'm currently receiving a back rub from Mila Kunis.
y u no belief?
more killmail, vicar?
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
735
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:11:00 -
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Convoluted plots are the best plots!
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
735
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:12:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:
The camp is currently successful and is active right now as we speak. Superior forces are being laughed at while this tiny camp of noboies is 100% impossible to kill.
I to am good at making up utter bullshit. I'm currently receiving a back rub from Mila Kunis. y u no belief? more killmail, vicar?
That's better. Unfortunately the back rub I was receiving was my cat Mila stomping on my back. I made the Kunis part up.
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2083
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:14:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Because we wouldn't expend a considerable number of Tornadoes suicide ganking an Orca that pissed us off right? A tornado can not shoot what it can not see. When alphafleet appears, my pokemon go back in a special cloak'a'ball.
so your orca is either on the gate, and liable to be alphad, or off the gate cloaked, and really hoping the 0.0 frigate pilots with years of experience decloaking ships off gates with windows in the order of seconds wont catch it.
Pick one.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
1497
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:15:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:because a supercarrier totally won't melt an orca in like one FB volley
I'm fairly certain by the time the cyno is lit, FBs deployed, Orca locked and engaged the pilot will have found the time to hit jump.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"-á-á-MXZF |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1067
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:16:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Because we wouldn't expend a considerable number of Tornadoes suicide ganking an Orca that pissed us off right? A tornado can not shoot what it can not see. When alphafleet appears, my pokemon go back in a special cloak'a'ball.
You don't get it.
After the first time:
You set up the camp.
They send bait force.
You aggress.
Things get to the point when you would dock in the Orca.
Alpha fleet jumps in, dead Orca (and your T3s).
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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:18:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:Because we wouldn't expend a considerable number of Tornadoes suicide ganking an Orca that pissed us off right? A tornado can not shoot what it can not see. When alphafleet appears, my pokemon go back in a special cloak'a'ball. so your orca is either on the gate, and liable to be alphad, or off the gate cloaked, and really hoping the 0.0 frigate pilots with years of experience decloaking ships off gates with windows in the order of seconds wont catch it. Pick one.
One must first get alphafleet into position for a gank, which takes far more time then isboxer needs to dock up all my alts and jump into highsec+logout.
Logging out will ensure the orca is not destroyed since it logged out before it was aggressed, and has acquired abilities such as immunity to broadsword infinipoint due to ccp.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
735
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:19:00 -
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All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I'm mean seriously, we're awful at internet spaceships.
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:20:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I'm mean seriously, we're awful at internet spaceships.
Im just enjoying my immunity from all forms of loss in a pvp sandbox
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Forum Foreplay
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:21:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Yes, you need to get the orca in there initially. Done easily with a cloak and a couple of scouts.
Yes its possible to bump the orca off gate, But simply JUMP THE GATE before the orca is bumped off it. With a Teamspeak connection you are able to ensure all parties are aboard the orca before its jump to concord controlled airspace.
The camp is currently successful and is active right now as we speak. Superior forces are being laughed at while this tiny camp of noboies is 100% impossible to kill.
Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off?
Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1644
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:22:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I'm mean seriously, we're awful at internet spaceships. Im just enjoying my immunity from all forms of loss in a pvp sandbox
You aren't immune to loss. I do actually know how to kill you. I'd be thrilled to give you a demonstration if you want to try that on the Ossogur / Amamake gate. :)
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2084
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:22:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I'm mean seriously, we're awful at internet spaceships. Im just enjoying my immunity from all forms of loss in a pvp sandbox
Or so you think.
I can think of several ways to ruin your day, but honestly, its not worth the effort to hunt down some random lowsec ganker.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:22:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:
Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off?
by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
735
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:24:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Tarsus Zateki wrote:All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I'm mean seriously, we're awful at internet spaceships. Im just enjoying my immunity from all forms of loss in a pvp sandbox You aren't immune to loss. I do actually know how to kill you. I'd be thrilled to give you a demonstration if you want to try that on the Oso / Amamake gate. :) -Liang
But then he'll just accuse you of blobbing and smugly walk away with his moral victory.
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Quaaid
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
56
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:25:00 -
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You can't dock in the Orca while Scrammed or Webbed. At least, that was that case when I tried this same crap like 2 years ago. |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
736
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:26:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Forum Foreplay wrote:
Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off?
by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness.
You probably need to pick another alliance to hunt then. Goons are far to busy laughing our asses off at our own idiotic losses to cry. I suggest Against all Authorities or AAA Citizens, they get incredibly butt hurt when you kill them in innovative ways.
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Alara IonStorm
2673
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:29:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:
But then he'll just accuse you of blobbing and smugly walk away with his moral victory.
That made me smile. |
jlangerud
Asteroid Mining Club
23
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:33:00 -
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Waiting patiently for tears from the wanna be pvp'er when a tornado gank fleets blows up his Orca in high sec with his shineys inside.  |
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Forum Foreplay
Gallente Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:36:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Forum Foreplay wrote:
Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off?
by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness.
No...
You do the standard camp the weaker routine and the minute anything that you can't handle shows up you run away and call the fact that you fled like a yellow dog with your tail between your legs without getting killed a victory.
That is not success, that is you losing the gate and running away. 
Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
639
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:41:00 -
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Says the person who cant kill me.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
76
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:46:00 -
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...not...another...orca...thread...ZZZZzzzzzzzzzz.... |
Tarsus Zateki
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
736
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:47:00 -
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Forum Foreplay wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Forum Foreplay wrote:
Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off?
by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness. No... You do the standard camp the weaker routine and the minute anything that you can't handle shows up you run away and call the fact that you fled like a yellow dog with your tail between your legs without getting killed a victory. That is not success, that is you losing the gate and running away.
This is pretty much par for the course in nearly all PvP in Eve-Online. While his posts stink of hubris he would be an idiot to stick around and fight something that actually stood a chance against him. People who "fight fair" in Eve-Online are just victims that haven't realized it yet.
You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world. |
Cactusfrankie
Advent Shinra Securities Inc.
1
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:50:00 -
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So OP, what happens when I shoot your orca first? |
Forum Foreplay
Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:56:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Forum Foreplay wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Forum Foreplay wrote:
Wait, so you leave the gate, how is that successful, you got run off?
by getting kills and harvesting tears of those who are unable to challenge my godliness. No... You do the standard camp the weaker routine and the minute anything that you can't handle shows up you run away and call the fact that you fled like a yellow dog with your tail between your legs without getting killed a victory. That is not success, that is you losing the gate and running away. This is pretty much par for the course in nearly all PvP in Eve-Online. While his posts stink of hubris he would be an idiot to stick around and fight something that actually stood a chance against him. People who "fight fair" in Eve-Online are just victims that haven't realized it yet.
All true, but most of us dont call running away a victory...
Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
Comic Mischief
824
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:57:00 -
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Cactusfrankie wrote: So OP, what happens when I shoot your orca first?
Perhaps with stealth bombers who locked you all so you got to take the time to store the T3s before jumping?
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
1645
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Posted - 2012.07.17 23:58:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Cactusfrankie wrote: So OP, what happens when I shoot your orca first? Perhaps with stealth bombers who locked you all so you got to take the time to store the T3s before jumping?
You can stow while locked. You just can't get back in the ship.
-Liang
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Garreth Vlox
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
12
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:16:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy
ROFL, how long do you think that orca is gonna last? Besides who cares about a t3 kill that much, If I see an orca and a T3 on the same gate i'm killing the orca every time.
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Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
642
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:19:00 -
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Garreth Vlox wrote:
ROFL, how long do you think that orca is gonna last? Besides who cares about a t3 kill that much, If I see an orca and a T3 on the same gate i'm killing the orca every time.
1) forever.
2) I do.
3) come try.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:21:00 -
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+1 for thinking out side the box
interesting idea, and i can see how it would work.
but since you decided to forum wh0re for likes and go public, it will be countered ( as suggested above). you should have kept it to your buddies and just be happy with being a Kill board muppet.
Cup the balls, and work the shaft |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
642
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Posted - 2012.07.18 00:52:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14049451
or even better;
http://eve-kill.net/?a=system_detail&sys_id=5420
and note the time elapsed between each kill for the past... week.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
643
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Posted - 2012.07.18 01:14:00 -
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Bonus points for keeping several ships in the orca so that when one is about to die, you can hop in your armor tanked one to finish the job
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Fiona Tsero
the Forward Initiative
Mildly Sober
11
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Posted - 2012.07.18 01:34:00 -
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People like you are why piracy is dead. |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.07.18 01:53:00 -
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Putting multiple T3s inside an orca makes it a tempting ganking target even in highsec. Besides, what's to stop me from just smartbombing your pod as soon as you stow the ship?
Finally, why on Earth would anyone give a damn about a low/high gatecamp? You can at best inconvenience the truly ********; all the important cargo goes by jump freighter anyway. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1354
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Posted - 2012.07.18 02:13:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Logging out will ensure the orca is not destroyed since it logged out before it was aggressed
you're actually wrong there
a rogue goon |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
323
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Posted - 2012.07.18 02:43:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive (or shitfit) tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy
You never get away...
Have 2-4 Smartbombing BSs jump in and burn back to gate whilest lighting smartbombs and scram everything, light cyno with recon and have as much stealthbombers jump in at range and push the orca through the gate, where a group of Tornados just landed. PODs blow up from smartbombs, gank Tornadoes take out Orca in highsec filled with shinys. Thrasher or 2 to take out Orca POD....
Oh wait, I did this before...
Questions?
Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
643
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Posted - 2012.07.18 03:22:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive (or shitfit) tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy You never get away... Have 2-4 Smartbombing BSs jump in and burn back to gate whilest lighting smartbombs and scram everything, light cyno with recon and have as much stealthbombers jump in at range and push the orca through the gate, where a group of Tornados just landed. PODs blow up from smartbombs, gank Tornadoes take out Orca in highsec filled with shinys. Thrasher or 2 to take out Orca POD.... Oh wait, I did this before... Questions?
This simply wouldnt work. 100mn AB tech3 cruisers can burn back to the orca, dock, and then the orca can jump into highsec, before your smartbombing battleships get anywhere near it to damage OR bump it. Unless of course im being an idiot and have my t3's 50km away from the orca... but i'll just choose to not be stupid about that.
Richard Desturned wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Logging out will ensure the orca is not destroyed since it logged out before it was aggressed you're actually wrong there
actually i am correct. If you log out without ANY aggression timers, your ship will warp exactly 1au away in a random direction, and then vanish after 60 seconds.
It is -impossible- to interrupt this e-warp unless the ship was ALREADY agressed before the e-warp was initiated.
Try it on sisi if you dont believe me. Log out a slow-warping ship, and then try to tackle it. And watch it e-warp anyway. If you manage to probe it out in its e-warp'd position within 60 seconds and tackle it, it will still vanish in 60 seconds. And if the player logs back in while its still there (or you wait for him to come back) you are unable to interrupt its e-warp back to its original position on the gate ether.
The aggression mechanic change that happened fairly recently only effects ships that were ALREADY SHOT AT before they attempted to log out.
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2090
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Posted - 2012.07.18 04:08:00 -
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I find it kind of strange that your opinion of "winning" is the following:
- Staring at a gate for hours
- Shooting the t1 frigates that come by
- Tucking your tail and running the instant a real fight shows up at your doorstep
Does the actual combat mean nothing to you? Is your goal to pad your killboard so you can wave your epeen in the face of other combat-averse stat whores?
If your goal is tears, some advice: big kills hurt a lot more.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2090
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Posted - 2012.07.18 04:09:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:
actually i am correct. If you log out without ANY aggression timers, your ship will warp exactly 1au away in a random direction, and then vanish after 60 seconds.
It is -impossible- to interrupt this e-warp unless the ship was ALREADY agressed before the e-warp was initiated.
It is more than possible to probe you out and take your orca out in that timeframe if you really want it dead.
Happens every single damn day in nullsec.
TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1067
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Posted - 2012.07.18 04:14:00 -
[51] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:
actually i am correct. If you log out without ANY aggression timers, your ship will warp exactly 1au away in a random direction, and then vanish after 60 seconds.
It is -impossible- to interrupt this e-warp unless the ship was ALREADY agressed before the e-warp was initiated.
It is more than possible to probe you out and take your orca out in that timeframe if you really want it dead. Happens every single damn day in nullsec.
Also I'm sure someone would shoot the Orca at least once before they T3s were stowed. Thats all it would take for it to be in space until its dead, even in HS. |
Spurty
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
364
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Posted - 2012.07.18 04:43:00 -
[52] - Quote
Harboring criminals flag needed.
Jump a ship that contains 'flagged' ships into high sec and BOOM-HEAD-SHOT.
Loop hole closed.
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CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
Joshua Aivoras
Tech IV Industries
The Methodical Alliance
204
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Posted - 2012.07.18 04:47:00 -
[53] - Quote
What about the part where they gank the Orca after it jumps?
95% of the players are loving EVE, the other 5%? On the forums. |
Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp
Unified Church of the Unobligated
31
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Posted - 2012.07.18 04:58:00 -
[54] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate. I'm mean seriously, we're awful at internet spaceships.
For not "giving a crap" you wrote a lot of replies in this thread. :P
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:but since you decided to forum wh0re for likes and go public, it will be countered ( as suggested above). you should have kept it to your buddies and just be happy with being a Kill board muppet.
This. I mean, it's a great theory and easily be proven or falsified by just doing it (and by doing it I mean over a longer run, let's say 4 weeks at least). And the ones posting theories about how it could be countered then get the chance to prove their theory right or wrong.
But right now it has the touch of EFT warriors, talking about a theory. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1638
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:16:00 -
[55] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:I find it kind of strange that your opinion of "winning" is the following:
- Staring at a gate for hours
- Shooting the t1 frigates that come by
- Tucking your tail and running the instant a real fight shows up at your doorstep
Does the actual combat mean nothing to you? Is your goal to pad your killboard so you can wave your epeen in the face of other combat-averse stat whores?
I often wonder the same thing about the thousands of pilots that do that every day from high sec belts to low/null gates.
Mr Epeen 
There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
baltec1
Bat Country
1653
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Posted - 2012.07.18 05:32:00 -
[56] - Quote
I find this far more impressive. |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
706
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:14:00 -
[57] - Quote
Terminal Insanity wrote:Says the person who cant kill me.
Uhh... by your logic... why go through all those hoops? It's so simple:
1) Create a character.
2) Never undock.
You can't kill me, so I've won! |
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
243
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy I would like to see that Orca live long enough to get to 0 at the gate, and long enough for the T3s to be dock in it.
As Liang Nuren has already pointed out - Heretic Nation uses this technique in Amamake with great success (the Orca can just warp to 0 on the gate if it hasn't already been there when the fight started). |
Soldarius
TreadStone Standard
The 99 Percent
264
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:45:00 -
[59] - Quote
It's amazing how many ways people come up with not to pvp in Eve.
OP, I find your idea less than stellar. But I'm not surprised. You're a gate-camper.
1. Position a fleet of alpha tornados on the hisec side, along with a prober.
2. Fire a shot at the Orca while T3 pilots are stowing their ships.
3. Laugh as your "unkillable" Orca jumps.
4. Laugh more as your "unkillable" Orca pilot logs out when he sees the hisec gatecamp.
5. Probe out aggressed Orca and kill it with suicide fleet.
6. Profit
7. (my favorite) Post on forums with kb links about how stupid and fail the entire concept was.
"How do you kill that which has no life?" |
dexington
Lysergic.acid.diethylamide
54
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Posted - 2012.07.18 08:49:00 -
[60] - Quote
Tarsus Zateki wrote:All these elaborate schemes are banking on the fact we could give a crap about the odd goon getting killed on a gate.
I care about the odd goon getting kill on a gate, and when it happens i'll be right here on the forums, so he will have a shoulder to cry on.
"Go ahead, Cornelius, you can cry." |
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Feligast
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1257
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:24:00 -
[61] - Quote
Page 4 snypa
Who gives a **** about lowsec anyway? |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
325
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:34:00 -
[62] - Quote
Terminal Insanity wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive (or shitfit) tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy You never get away... Have 2-4 Smartbombing BSs jump in and burn back to gate whilest lighting smartbombs and scram everything, light cyno with recon and have as much stealthbombers jump in at range and push the orca through the gate, where a group of Tornados just landed. PODs blow up from smartbombs, gank Tornadoes take out Orca in highsec filled with shinys. Thrasher or 2 to take out Orca POD.... Oh wait, I did this before... Questions? This simply wouldnt work. 100mn AB tech3 cruisers can burn back to the orca, dock, and then the orca can jump into highsec, before your smartbombing battleships get anywhere near it to damage OR bump it. Unless of course im being an idiot and have my t3's 50km away from the orca... but i'll just choose to not be stupid about that.
I guess that you failed to read the part of the group of Tornados with a few Thrashers waiting on the otherside of the gate for the Orca and it's POD. You also failed to realize that the smartbombing BSs are there to point the T3's and force them into the Orca, and good luck getting your PODs out...
Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |
Caitlyn Tufy
Refuge of Hope
Lemniskate
13
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:38:00 -
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Tarsus Zateki wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:
The camp is currently successful and is active right now as we speak. Superior forces are being laughed at while this tiny camp of noboies is 100% impossible to kill.
I to am good at making up utter bull. I'm currently receiving a back rub from Mila Kunis.
Oi, I had a Dibs on that one!
Fine, keep Mila now that you've spoiled her, but I'm getting Olivia Wilde, kapish? Official Dibs right here, so you won't have excuses. |
Tub Chil
Heretic University
Heretic Nation
22
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Posted - 2012.07.18 09:50:00 -
[64] - Quote
Terminal Insanity wrote:It is possible to camp a low<>high gate in super expensive (or shitfit) tech3 cruisers, and if you are about to die you are guaranteed 100% to escape and never lose your ship. Simply place your ship inside of a neutral orca who's at 0 on gate, and warp your pod away. Your ship will be returned when the superior enemy force leaves.
Enjoy
Oh god dammit why didn't I know that! |
Azami Nevinyrall
Project Cerberus
Caldari State Capturing
325
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Posted - 2012.07.18 10:05:00 -
[65] - Quote
I find it awesome that people will go to extreme lengths to get kills and not fight. Run with their tail between their legs screaming..."lol, n00b" when they see and actual fight...
It reminds me of those kids who play FPSs and downloads hacks. They'll cheat as much as they can, and call you a n00b. God forbid, when you hack them, they scream and curse then try to get you banned from the server.
OP is a f*cking idiot for following the flavor of the month, and he's a f*cking p*ssy for running and not putting up a good fight when it comes...
Do you know what a sh*t-barometer is? It measures the sh*t-pressure in the air, did you hear that? The sounds of the whispering winds of sh*t... |
Terminal Insanity
The Filthy Ones
652
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Posted - 2012.07.18 16:41:00 -
[66] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:It's amazing how many ways people come up with not to pvp in Eve.
OP, I find your idea less than stellar. But I'm not surprised. You're a gate-camper.
1. Position a fleet of alpha tornados on the hisec side, along with a prober.
2. Fire a shot at the Orca while T3 pilots are stowing their ships.
3. Laugh as your "unkillable" Orca jumps.
4. Laugh more as your "unkillable" Orca pilot logs out when he sees the hisec gatecamp.
5. Probe out aggressed Orca and kill it with suicide fleet.
6. Profit
7. (my favorite) Post on forums with kb links about how stupid and fail the entire concept was.
If its so easy, come and do it. Nobody has been successful yet
This is just typical 99%'er bs. You just hate my swag CQ cos all you can afford are spinners
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1070
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Posted - 2012.07.18 16:44:00 -
[67] - Quote
Terminal Insanity wrote:Soldarius wrote:It's amazing how many ways people come up with not to pvp in Eve.
OP, I find your idea less than stellar. But I'm not surprised. You're a gate-camper.
1. Position a fleet of alpha tornados on the hisec side, along with a prober.
2. Fire a shot at the Orca while T3 pilots are stowing their ships.
3. Laugh as your "unkillable" Orca jumps.
4. Laugh more as your "unkillable" Orca pilot logs out when he sees the hisec gatecamp.
5. Probe out aggressed Orca and kill it with suicide fleet.
6. Profit
7. (my favorite) Post on forums with kb links about how stupid and fail the entire concept was. If its so easy, come and do it. Nobody has been successful yet This is just typical 99%'er bs. You just hate my swag CQ cos all you can afford are spinners
I do hope that the KM is posted for all to see.
Too bad my PvP prowess is very very poor. I would probably die to the Orca... |
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