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Mrs Boffin
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Posted - 2010.06.28 07:54:00 -
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CCP is moving towards all items being made by players in game, so why not these?
To keep them rare and expensive make the parts from cosmos missions, or P3/P4 PI components. So yes, available, but not common and player supported in keeping with CCP's plans that everything is player driven.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2010.06.28 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 28/06/2010 08:20:49 Yes! And for the love of god please create an alternate version with the same hull with salvaging (and tractoring!) bonuses.
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Sciencegeek deathdealer
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Posted - 2010.06.28 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Sciencegeek deathdealer on 28/06/2010 15:40:02 /signed
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Galen Gallente
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.28 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Galen Gallente on 28/06/2010 15:49:50 IMO there should definitely be a BPO/BPC available for the ship. Any dev that is short sighted enough to fight such a thing should be gone.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.28 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jint Hikaru on 28/06/2010 16:31:56 I would have to agree. It seems a shame that such a useful and good looking ship will rarely see the cold light of space due to it being irreplaceable.
Ore LP store for a BCP! Make it slightly different colour or model. This preservers the uniqueness of the gift, but makes it a very good addition to the Eve universe!
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
Laxyr
Chamsin Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.06.28 16:48:00 -
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Hamayan
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Posted - 2010.06.28 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Hamayan on 28/06/2010 17:00:11 I'd like to see this ship's model reused for something, just so the art doesn't go to waste.
Without knowing more about exactly what the Primae itself will do, and how well it will do it, I can't say that putting out a BPO or BPC for it would be my preferred method of utilizing the art.
Given that the Primae is planned to essentially be a limited edition ship that won't have a lasting impact on the landscape of the game (which, of course, is the very reason why a lot of players are greeting it as a wasted effort), maybe not a lot of thought was put into gameplay/balance aspects of the ship's design (I kind of hope that this is the case, or else it makes the ship's non-reproducible nature and even bigger waste). If that's the case, then some tweaking would have to be done before the Primae were to be released as a reproducible ship.
Even if that is the case, I would hope that CCP would consider the idea of putting in a little more work so that a reproducible Primae Mk II (that doesn't have to be its name) is available at some later date. That way players could still have novelty of a free "prototype"/limited edition Primae (the "gift" CCP wanted to give us), as well as a more common version of the vessel that's more likely to be used for actual industry to add a little bit of actual depth of to the game.
The art and background for this ship, of course, is also very well-suited to the oft-suggested notion of a ship class devoted to salvaging wrecks. CCP may have its reasons for not wanting a ship dedicated to that role (perhaps to preserve some of the advantage of flying a Marauder) but if it does simply come down to a matter of dev resources, it seems to me that a lot of the work has already been done.
Anyway, I hope CCP considers the suggestions that have been made here, and take the sentiment behind them to heart. While having these ships as one-off "free" giveaways may be a well-intentioned, I'd like to see more thought devoted to the question of how dev resources should be allocated to improve the game most substantially in the mid- to long-term. This "gift" unfortunately serves as a reminder of CCP's sometimes faulty sense of priority.
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Draike Tahlon
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Posted - 2010.06.28 17:38:00 -
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/signed
Id love to see a ship specifically suited for Planetary interaction. We need moar industrial ships!
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Admiral Kali
Caldari Navy Special Operations Command
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Posted - 2010.06.28 21:14:00 -
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Nay!
For reasons that will be clear in not too long
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Yukino Yuu
Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.06.28 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Yukino Yuu on 28/06/2010 22:09:48 /signed want zephyr as well
its one thing to give pvp and novelty shuttles as gifts since the are many other ships that fill those roles already. The Primae and zephyr are unique in their role but lack of supply negates any usefulness. my zephyr has yet to leave the hanger it was redeemed in and the same will happen to my primae.
so thanks CCP for giving me another ship whose only use is to look good in my hanger! I was right not to get my hopes up. *sigh*
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Darkwolf
TOG Empire DRACONIAN COVENANT
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Posted - 2010.06.29 02:52:00 -
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Supported, WITH a proviso;
The original gift versions should retain their skill-less pre-requisites. The manufactured version should have skill requirements to fly.
That way the gifted one still retains some unique features over the manufactured version.
This should be the case with the Zephyr and the upcoming Primae.
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xXApophisXx
Interplanetary Trade Commission
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Posted - 2010.06.29 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: xXApophisXx on 29/06/2010 06:10:13
Originally by: Darkwolf Supported, WITH a proviso;
The original gift versions should retain their skill-less pre-requisites. The manufactured version should have skill requirements to fly.
That way the gifted one still retains some unique features over the manufactured version.
This should be the case with the Zephyr and the upcoming Primae.
Yeha the above interests me too... I believe that you could make the skill-less Primae the MK I as such with the Iteron MK I through V. Thought the Iteron's have always been available. So in this case the MK II would be the same but with a few changes if you wish! I do believe it says in the devblog that we are been given a gift to test out a new ship... correct me if im wrong... Make this the MK I and then do a MK II jobbie! Keeps the croud happy!
The art guys spend a lot of time on the ships in eve. This ship should certainly join the Orca and Rorqual on the field as a permanent. I love the ship design and I'm hoping the slots and stats hold their own.
/Singed! Seed this NOW!
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Mithfindel
Aseyakone
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Posted - 2010.06.29 08:38:00 -
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Make it a BPC in an appropriate LP store, and the idea might be going somewhere. Otherwise there's little idea to add more T1 ships.
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Kali Nay!
For reasons that will be clear in not too long
I am interested in your post Kali, I guess I will have to wait till tonight.
If you are suggesting that the gift is too hard to kill or too unballanced, then would you oppose a suggestion to reballance a production version to be seeded into the game (in one of the ways suggested in this thread)?
------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------ |
TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:23:00 -
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nope
you're missing the point of a gift and most likely have distorted expectations of how good it'll be.
When they say "large cargo capacity" think 500m3 possily 1000.
I've not seen the specs yet but if it's anything more than that I'll be surprised. --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Saelie
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:30:00 -
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Would recommend BPCs or BPOs be provided through ORE, even if it is a pain in the nuts to get LP for them with their position in 0.0 space. It's a shame to have a neat, unique ship that I can't use because people will suicide-gank it for lolz.
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Intar Medris
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:45:00 -
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Yes please make this not a one off. BPOs please.
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:51:00 -
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it can carry less than a basic T1 hauler and has no tank to speak of, it's free for a reason people.
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Batolemaeus
Vauryndar Dalharil
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kangtar it can carry less than a basic T1 hauler and has no tank to speak of, it's free for a reason people.
You're wrong.
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David Grogan
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Posted - 2010.06.29 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: David Grogan on 29/06/2010 12:35:14 rather than release bpos for these ships why not just release bpc's obtainable from ore's lp store SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P |
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Angie McFish
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Posted - 2010.06.29 15:09:00 -
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Yes. I believe new hulls should be permanent. Sure, the zephyr is just another scanner, but if Primae is what I hope it is then it'll be unique. I also believe it could be a great tool for newer players (Again, if it's anything like the ship I'm hoping for).
Supported
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:50:00 -
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I would have supported this, but then I saw its stats. Just remove it from the game tbh, it's less useful than an Interbus shuttle.
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Mazzarins Demise
Profit Development and Research Association
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Posted - 2010.06.29 16:56:00 -
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Post has been updated with new information coinciding with the Primae's release. _________________________________________ Support the "Seed Primae on the market or ORE LP Stores" proposal! Click here! |
Rek Jaiga
Minmatar Almighty Slayers Rekking on You
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Posted - 2010.06.29 17:27:00 -
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As it turns out, when I was auto-linking the Primae to my corpmates I noticed that there is a "Primae Blueprint" in the database, which can be linked and everything. The Bill of Materials tab was missing from it, but the fact that there is a blueprint for the Primae in the items database is promising. Unfortunately, it's not seeded on the market. Even when I unchecked "show only available" there was no Primae blueprint in the market.
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Akabara Strauss
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:15:00 -
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/supported
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.06.29 22:51:00 -
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Keep it unique.
Definitely no to BPO.
A BPC for a MK2 from the ORE LP store would be OK.
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Alexei Orlov
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Posted - 2010.06.30 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Alexei Orlov on 30/06/2010 05:39:31 I agree with the idea of having a skillset requirement for a player built line of the Primae, and that it should look a little different and perhaps behave differently.
Having seen the stats of the ship after redeeming mine, the Primae seems quite fragile, if that is to remain the ship's nature then I think a BPO seed would be better. With the noted difficulty in acquiring LP for ORE would it not be likely that ground out BPCs would be sold at too high a price for the ship to see practical use? I suppose the LP price could be made cheaper but then why not just use a BPO and let the Industry types have their fun with producing them?
Eh, well, just a thought or two.
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.06.30 13:05:00 -
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Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto I would have supported this, but then I saw its stats. Just remove it from the game tbh, it's less useful than an Interbus shuttle.
WTB interbus shuttles --
Nothing is worthless, you may have gotten it for free but it still has an inherent value
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Hephira
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Posted - 2010.06.30 18:00:00 -
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Yes. Just to stop the gankers. Also a high slot or to would be nice.
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PropheticWarrior
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Posted - 2010.07.01 13:07:00 -
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Edited by: PropheticWarrior on 01/07/2010 13:07:45 I concur, please seed the BPO
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