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Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2004.12.17 12:42:00 - [61] Originally by: demonic possession And people say CCP love amarr.... funny how amarr dont use missiles so the propulsion changes dont make them better.... hmmmm wel.. looks like every1 needs ravens... It's not like us Gallente are exactly swimming in missile ships, either Patience, missiles will get balanced, probably sooner than later. Then you can read all the 327 threads from Raven pilots screaming about how their ex-uber ships are now "useless" and how they are quitting the game to go play Tetris. Or something.
Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2004.12.17 12:42:00 - [62] Originally by: demonic possession And people say CCP love amarr.... funny how amarr dont use missiles so the propulsion changes dont make them better.... hmmmm wel.. looks like every1 needs ravens... It's not like us Gallente are exactly swimming in missile ships, either Patience, missiles will get balanced, probably sooner than later. Then you can read all the 327 threads from Raven pilots screaming about how their ex-uber ships are now "useless" and how they are quitting the game to go play Tetris. Or something.
mahhy	Posted - 2004.12.17 12:44:00 - [63] Originally by: demonic possession And people say CCP love amarr.... funny how amarr dont use missiles so the propulsion changes dont make them better.... hmmmm wel.. looks like every1 needs ravens... Well the propulsion changes do give us Amarr at least a CHANCE to hit now Trying to track a superspeed setup previously was the next thing to impossible.
mahhy	Posted - 2004.12.17 12:44:00 - [64] Originally by: demonic possession And people say CCP love amarr.... funny how amarr dont use missiles so the propulsion changes dont make them better.... hmmmm wel.. looks like every1 needs ravens... Well the propulsion changes do give us Amarr at least a CHANCE to hit now Trying to track a superspeed setup previously was the next thing to impossible.
Zelota	Posted - 2004.12.17 14:19:00 - [65] Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 14:19:52 WELL if you pay any atention to how meny people log in to the game you might notice that 25% of eve dosent play any more.ALOOT of people are leaving the game now caus of all this.I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. ITS like theyd NERF mining so you could not make money with mining any more HOW WOULD YOU FEEL!!! no more 1.0 mining huh?See how you can do with your game stile deleted Vid of the week
Zelota	Posted - 2004.12.17 14:19:00 - [66] Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 14:19:52 WELL if you pay any atention to how meny people log in to the game you might notice that 25% of eve dosent play any more.ALOOT of people are leaving the game now caus of all this.I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. ITS like theyd NERF mining so you could not make money with mining any more HOW WOULD YOU FEEL!!! no more 1.0 mining huh?See how you can do with your game stile deleted Vid of the week
Toran Mehtar	Posted - 2004.12.17 14:38:00 - [67] Originally by: Zelota WELL if you pay any atention to how meny people log in to the game you might notice that 25% of eve dosent play any more. When did we have 16k+ people playing at once ? Originally by: Zelota I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. No, whining on the forums didn't get deleted.
Toran Mehtar	Posted - 2004.12.17 14:38:00 - [68] Originally by: Zelota WELL if you pay any atention to how meny people log in to the game you might notice that 25% of eve dosent play any more. When did we have 16k+ people playing at once ? Originally by: Zelota I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. No, whining on the forums didn't get deleted.
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2004.12.17 14:51:00 - [69] Originally by: Zelota IM TIERD!I just want to get this thrugh.Care bears of eve we use these mods to pvp for tackeling and anti frigate ruptures.If you cant deal with it and mine veldaspar in peace then i think THE HWOLE PVP comunity of eve shuld declair war on all care bears in empire space that have dumb ideas like that and blow em all up!Just eniolate em for ruining a perfectly fine game.I used to be the best damn apoc pilot in game but then they nerfd sheeld tanking!And that ruined my apoc tactic.I found the rupture and i did well with it.Now they nerfd the rupture and what am i suposto do now?Start training for a raven caus its the best ship in game?No i stick with the apocalypse and i still do.As for killing all care bears.You can get your trit from npc loot its mutch easyer than buying it up in empire.You get money for killing and mods to refine/fit/sell! You're talking about people not being able to deal with things, yet you cant deal with change without crying your heart out. ______________________ Pod from above.
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2004.12.17 14:51:00 - [70] Originally by: Zelota IM TIERD!I just want to get this thrugh.Care bears of eve we use these mods to pvp for tackeling and anti frigate ruptures.If you cant deal with it and mine veldaspar in peace then i think THE HWOLE PVP comunity of eve shuld declair war on all care bears in empire space that have dumb ideas like that and blow em all up!Just eniolate em for ruining a perfectly fine game.I used to be the best damn apoc pilot in game but then they nerfd sheeld tanking!And that ruined my apoc tactic.I found the rupture and i did well with it.Now they nerfd the rupture and what am i suposto do now?Start training for a raven caus its the best ship in game?No i stick with the apocalypse and i still do.As for killing all care bears.You can get your trit from npc loot its mutch easyer than buying it up in empire.You get money for killing and mods to refine/fit/sell! You're talking about people not being able to deal with things, yet you cant deal with change without crying your heart out. ______________________ Pod from above.
Viceroy	Posted - 2004.12.17 15:03:00 - [71] Edited by: Viceroy on 17/12/2004 15:03:41 I dont see what the problem is. Oversized ABs were overpowered. They made cruisers invincible. Yeah I used one, and I "pwned" everyone i came across, but it wasnt a balanced setup. Nerfing it was the best thing to do. If you're such a skilled pilot, you should be able to adapt to changes without blowing a fuse over one nerf. If you cant, well, it wasnt the skill at all, it was just the unbalanced setup that made you "l33t" -
Viceroy	Posted - 2004.12.17 15:03:00 - [72] Edited by: Viceroy on 17/12/2004 15:03:41 I dont see what the problem is. Oversized ABs were overpowered. They made cruisers invincible. Yeah I used one, and I "pwned" everyone i came across, but it wasnt a balanced setup. Nerfing it was the best thing to do. If you're such a skilled pilot, you should be able to adapt to changes without blowing a fuse over one nerf. If you cant, well, it wasnt the skill at all, it was just the unbalanced setup that made you "l33t" -
Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2004.12.17 15:26:00 - [73] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 14:19:52 WELL if you pay any atention to how meny people log in to the game you might notice that 25% of eve dosent play any more.ALOOT of people are leaving the game now caus of all this.I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. I'm afraid you're losing credibility here, and fast. So you "can't play" because your "play style" has been removed? Would this be the "fly around with multi-ab cruisers that nothing can hit" playstyle? Or the "oversize-ab Crow that nothing can hit" playstyle? Or some other "...that nothing can hit" playstyle? Utter drivel. They fixed a broken game mechanic. If you've depended on that to survive, then maybe you're not the hot pilot you think you are. If you actually are a good pilot you'll adapt and find a setup that works with the new rules. If not, well... Bye.
Alex Harumichi	Posted - 2004.12.17 15:26:00 - [74] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 14:19:52 WELL if you pay any atention to how meny people log in to the game you might notice that 25% of eve dosent play any more.ALOOT of people are leaving the game now caus of all this.I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. I'm afraid you're losing credibility here, and fast. So you "can't play" because your "play style" has been removed? Would this be the "fly around with multi-ab cruisers that nothing can hit" playstyle? Or the "oversize-ab Crow that nothing can hit" playstyle? Or some other "...that nothing can hit" playstyle? Utter drivel. They fixed a broken game mechanic. If you've depended on that to survive, then maybe you're not the hot pilot you think you are. If you actually are a good pilot you'll adapt and find a setup that works with the new rules. If not, well... Bye.
RL Malcontent	Posted - 2004.12.17 16:29:00 - [75] It's more than laughable that "carebears" are being blamed for ANY of the changes/nerfs in Eve as of late. Without a fail anytime you go into a thread with people begging for one nerf or another it's FILLED with PVP'ers leading the charge. mOo, CA players, etc. are without a doubt the ones that instigate these nerfs. You see what you fail to understand Zelota is that "carebears" don't give a crap about your PVP needs and wish lists. NPCs NEVER cry about the tactics used to kill and/or evade them. The only thing any nerf accomplishes for a "carebear" is to make the game slower and more tedious. I highly doubt if you will find five real "carebears" that will say they like deadspace, propulsion nerfs, missile nerfs, or any of the changes that YOU PVP'ers have been pushing. So if you want to find someone to blame for all these stupid changes as of late and still to come look towards the PVP'ers because the only real nerf "carebears" want are 300km sentry guns around gates in .1 to .4 space so all you gate gankers can't sit there at 180km in your long range Apocs destroying our frigate loads frozen food for our agents. "Carebears" bring on the nerfs, whatever...
RL Malcontent	Posted - 2004.12.17 16:29:00 - [76] It's more than laughable that "carebears" are being blamed for ANY of the changes/nerfs in Eve as of late. Without a fail anytime you go into a thread with people begging for one nerf or another it's FILLED with PVP'ers leading the charge. mOo, CA players, etc. are without a doubt the ones that instigate these nerfs. You see what you fail to understand Zelota is that "carebears" don't give a crap about your PVP needs and wish lists. NPCs NEVER cry about the tactics used to kill and/or evade them. The only thing any nerf accomplishes for a "carebear" is to make the game slower and more tedious. I highly doubt if you will find five real "carebears" that will say they like deadspace, propulsion nerfs, missile nerfs, or any of the changes that YOU PVP'ers have been pushing. So if you want to find someone to blame for all these stupid changes as of late and still to come look towards the PVP'ers because the only real nerf "carebears" want are 300km sentry guns around gates in .1 to .4 space so all you gate gankers can't sit there at 180km in your long range Apocs destroying our frigate loads frozen food for our agents. "Carebears" bring on the nerfs, whatever...
Trey Azagthoth	Posted - 2004.12.17 16:53:00 - [77] BTW, just my 2 cents on the matter, I feel your pain Zelota, I really do, and I saide with you on this one. Now for all you ****heads who wanna giggle at his spelling, how about, English isnt his first language, Im sure that you all would have trouble writing in his native language. so stfu. Zelota, keep on trucking bro, keep on trucking. Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is.
Trey Azagthoth	Posted - 2004.12.17 16:53:00 - [78] BTW, just my 2 cents on the matter, I feel your pain Zelota, I really do, and I saide with you on this one. Now for all you ****heads who wanna giggle at his spelling, how about, English isnt his first language, Im sure that you all would have trouble writing in his native language. so stfu. Zelota, keep on trucking bro, keep on trucking. Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is.
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:20:00 - [79] Originally by: Trey Azagthoth BTW, just my 2 cents on the matter, I feel your pain Zelota, I really do, and I saide with you on this one. Now for all you **heads who wanna giggle at his spelling, how about, English isnt his first language, Im sure that you all would have trouble writing in his native language. so stfu. Zelota, keep on trucking bro, keep on trucking. They arent giggling about his spelling, they are giggling at the fact that he's a ***** moron.
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:20:00 - [80] Originally by: Trey Azagthoth BTW, just my 2 cents on the matter, I feel your pain Zelota, I really do, and I saide with you on this one. Now for all you **heads who wanna giggle at his spelling, how about, English isnt his first language, Im sure that you all would have trouble writing in his native language. so stfu. Zelota, keep on trucking bro, keep on trucking. They arent giggling about his spelling, they are giggling at the fact that he's a ***** moron.
WelshFox	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:33:00 - [81] In all fairness, mwd/ab really just sucks. It meant you could fly round and gank anything you wanted and never have to worry about stabs. It wasn't pvp, it was gank. As for carebear this carebear that. Kill them all and you'll soon realise you have no isk/ships/mods (don't say the corp will get them, unless VotF has its own carebears? surely not.) Thx.
WelshFox	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:33:00 - [82] In all fairness, mwd/ab really just sucks. It meant you could fly round and gank anything you wanted and never have to worry about stabs. It wasn't pvp, it was gank. As for carebear this carebear that. Kill them all and you'll soon realise you have no isk/ships/mods (don't say the corp will get them, unless VotF has its own carebears? surely not.) Thx.
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:50:00 - [83] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it.Im not used to greefing about things if i dont like em(WARP CORE STABS)But messing things up like this is **** you cant even put a ab and a mwd on your ship.FRAGILE as they were,like flys that are soft and easely squishd if they sit stil THATS how its suposto be.CHANGE IT BACK ccp NOW FUNY how people reed alt posts i never do it,Its just for propaganda PROPOLTION CHANGES SUCK cange back NOW! I just realized your whole post is one big pathetic whine. Whining about whiners. Thats novel. ______________________ Pod from above.
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:50:00 - [84] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it.Im not used to greefing about things if i dont like em(WARP CORE STABS)But messing things up like this is **** you cant even put a ab and a mwd on your ship.FRAGILE as they were,like flys that are soft and easely squishd if they sit stil THATS how its suposto be.CHANGE IT BACK ccp NOW FUNY how people reed alt posts i never do it,Its just for propaganda PROPOLTION CHANGES SUCK cange back NOW! I just realized your whole post is one big pathetic whine. Whining about whiners. Thats novel. ______________________ Pod from above.
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:56:00 - [85] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 17/12/2004 18:02:29 viceroy stole my answer. A particular type of ship doesn't make a pilot great. Being able to fly/fight well in any type of ship makes a pilot great. Anyone who thought they were great because of an OAB frig/cruiser was deluding themselves. edited: before the typo police confiscate my keyboard. .
drunkenmaster	Posted - 2004.12.17 17:56:00 - [86] Edited by: drunkenmaster on 17/12/2004 18:02:29 viceroy stole my answer. A particular type of ship doesn't make a pilot great. Being able to fly/fight well in any type of ship makes a pilot great. Anyone who thought they were great because of an OAB frig/cruiser was deluding themselves. edited: before the typo police confiscate my keyboard. .
Shintai	Posted - 2004.12.17 18:02:00 - [87] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it.Im not used to greefing about things if i dont like em(WARP CORE STABS)But messing things up like this is ** you cant even put a ab and a mwd on your ship.FRAGILE as they were,like flys that are soft and easely squishd if they sit stil THATS how its suposto be.CHANGE IT BACK ccp NOW FUNY how people reed alt posts i never do it,Its just for propaganda PROPOLTION CHANGES SUCK cange back NOW! I guess it¦s the usual whine of the month, when some bandwagon thing is being nerfed? You can change to a Raven for a while if you still want some uber solo ship. But thats gonna get hot with the nerfbat too. Try and adjust like everyone WITH real skill does. Unless crying about some **poor crap. I have, along with the first other pirates been nerfed more times than you have killed people. This game is alot less carebearish than it ever was before. (Cept that time where we killed everything in 1.0 space ;) Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Shintai	Posted - 2004.12.17 18:02:00 - [88] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it.Im not used to greefing about things if i dont like em(WARP CORE STABS)But messing things up like this is ** you cant even put a ab and a mwd on your ship.FRAGILE as they were,like flys that are soft and easely squishd if they sit stil THATS how its suposto be.CHANGE IT BACK ccp NOW FUNY how people reed alt posts i never do it,Its just for propaganda PROPOLTION CHANGES SUCK cange back NOW! I guess it¦s the usual whine of the month, when some bandwagon thing is being nerfed? You can change to a Raven for a while if you still want some uber solo ship. But thats gonna get hot with the nerfbat too. Try and adjust like everyone WITH real skill does. Unless crying about some **poor crap. I have, along with the first other pirates been nerfed more times than you have killed people. This game is alot less carebearish than it ever was before. (Cept that time where we killed everything in 1.0 space ;) Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Pelias	Posted - 2004.12.17 19:13:00 - [89] WelshFox: Unless you meet another fast running (battle)cruiser. Then, it was a fight. Before, crusers had a role. Now, cruisers are just BS for the ppoor guys. I mean, there is absolutly no ***** chance to win against BS. some dumbf* cryied that MWD was no-brianer module. so how will ya call NOS equipped BS now?
Pelias	Posted - 2004.12.17 19:13:00 - [90] WelshFox: Unless you meet another fast running (battle)cruiser. Then, it was a fight. Before, crusers had a role. Now, cruisers are just BS for the ppoor guys. I mean, there is absolutly no ***** chance to win against BS. some dumbf* cryied that MWD was no-brianer module. so how will ya call NOS equipped BS now?

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