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Randay	Posted - 2004.12.19 08:31:00 - [151] Originally by: Crusher166 As i said before and i will say it again: quit listening to the whiners who get killed by not being able to use these setups and who cant be bothered to think of a setup other then a oab+mwd setup.
Randay	Posted - 2004.12.19 08:31:00 - [152] Originally by: Crusher166 As i said before and i will say it again: quit listening to the whiners who get killed by not being able to use these setups and who cant be bothered to think of a setup other then a oab+mwd setup.
Randay	Posted - 2004.12.19 09:32:00 - [153] Originally by: slip66 not quite most ca dont have the patience to camp. We like logging in and out and running around much more fun. then sittig at a gate for 4 hrs waiting.... because somone always brings a bigger blob.
Randay	Posted - 2004.12.19 09:32:00 - [154] Originally by: slip66 not quite most ca dont have the patience to camp. We like logging in and out and running around much more fun. then sittig at a gate for 4 hrs waiting.... because somone always brings a bigger blob.
Leam	Posted - 2004.12.19 11:15:00 - [155] Originally by: Randay Originally by: slip66 not quite most ca dont have the patience to camp. We like logging in and out and running around much more fun. then sittig at a gate for 4 hrs waiting.... because somone always brings a bigger blob. So? new patch nerfed warp so you have to be at the same gate all the time?.
Leam	Posted - 2004.12.19 11:15:00 - [156] Originally by: Randay Originally by: slip66 not quite most ca dont have the patience to camp. We like logging in and out and running around much more fun. then sittig at a gate for 4 hrs waiting.... because somone always brings a bigger blob. So? new patch nerfed warp so you have to be at the same gate all the time?.
Reite	Posted - 2004.12.19 12:05:00 - [157] I cant really understand u people whining about cruisers being useless in fleetbattles now. I have always used my thorax and my maller with single MWD, at it works perfectly fine, In the last fleet battle i was in, i killed 1 BC 1 Rupture and 3 frigs with my 10mn MWD thorax. Sure, if a raven targets u, u might have to warp out because of the cruise missles. But i dont mind, im not supposed to be invincible. (sorry about the bad grammar, i was in a hurry)
Reite	Posted - 2004.12.19 12:05:00 - [158] I cant really understand u people whining about cruisers being useless in fleetbattles now. I have always used my thorax and my maller with single MWD, at it works perfectly fine, In the last fleet battle i was in, i killed 1 BC 1 Rupture and 3 frigs with my 10mn MWD thorax. Sure, if a raven targets u, u might have to warp out because of the cruise missles. But i dont mind, im not supposed to be invincible. (sorry about the bad grammar, i was in a hurry)
Nev Amati	Posted - 2004.12.19 13:41:00 - [159] Man.. talk about whining about whiners. Adapt for chrissake.
Nev Amati	Posted - 2004.12.19 13:41:00 - [160] Man.. talk about whining about whiners. Adapt for chrissake.
Uggster	Posted - 2004.12.19 14:03:00 - [161] I like the changes, a 450m/s cruiser without the shield and cap being b***ered is a good thing IMO and thats with no extra speed mods etc. And I'm sick of watching the trails of 6.5k/s ships if I'm hunting them or trying to evade them. It was like play the oh-so-great game of Elite 2 frontier whe you tried to shoot ships whizzing past so fast you could hardly see them.
Uggster	Posted - 2004.12.19 14:03:00 - [162] I like the changes, a 450m/s cruiser without the shield and cap being b***ered is a good thing IMO and thats with no extra speed mods etc. And I'm sick of watching the trails of 6.5k/s ships if I'm hunting them or trying to evade them. It was like play the oh-so-great game of Elite 2 frontier whe you tried to shoot ships whizzing past so fast you could hardly see them.
siim	Posted - 2004.12.20 00:05:00 - [163] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it.Im not used to greefing about things if i dont like em(WARP CORE STABS)But messing things up like this is **** you cant even put a ab and a mwd on your ship.FRAGILE as they were,like flys that are soft and easely squishd if they sit stil THATS how its suposto be.CHANGE IT BACK ccp NOW FUNY how people reed alt posts i never do it,Its just for propaganda PROPOLTION CHANGES SUCK cange back NOW! hmm warp core stabs.. I have a memory from attacking a CA raven I was in a frig and my m8 was in a crow we both scramblerd it and he after few mins of beating he warped away.. That means he had 4 WCS's
siim	Posted - 2004.12.20 00:05:00 - [164] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it.Im not used to greefing about things if i dont like em(WARP CORE STABS)But messing things up like this is **** you cant even put a ab and a mwd on your ship.FRAGILE as they were,like flys that are soft and easely squishd if they sit stil THATS how its suposto be.CHANGE IT BACK ccp NOW FUNY how people reed alt posts i never do it,Its just for propaganda PROPOLTION CHANGES SUCK cange back NOW! hmm warp core stabs.. I have a memory from attacking a CA raven I was in a frig and my m8 was in a crow we both scramblerd it and he after few mins of beating he warped away.. That means he had 4 WCS's
Slithereen	Posted - 2004.12.20 01:19:00 - [165] Edited by: Slithereen on 20/12/2004 01:21:51 Originally by: dalman What Estios has said. Did ANYONE really think that MWD/AB wouldn't get changed? Know the history and you'll now more of the future... History time! * In the beginning, MWDs could be fitted easily on cruisers (frigates too?). This made MWD 100% necessary. EVERYONE used MWD on their ships, and it was NOT fun. You could as well have taken away one medslot and increased the maxspeed on all ships. This is not correct actually. In the beginning, there was only one kind of MWD because it was considered an expensive high end item. The grid and cap requirements of this single MWD is so high, that only battleships can use this. Then the game was patched so that you can only jump from the gate at 1500m instead of 8000m, greatly lengthening travel time. The result of this, of course, was plain ugly. Battleships was so much faster than cruiser and frigates, resulting in a tremendous imbalance. Everyone had to get a battleship. This was also true with afterburners---there was only one type of afterburner that works with all ships, and this single afterburner has a frigate sized cap and grid requirement. This led to the change where you have 1mn, 10mn and 100mn ABs and MWDs. This changed enabled frigates and cruisers to MWD. There was a lot of wailing and weeping when it turns out that the expensive MWD you bought and fitted on your battleship, is now a 1MN MWD! Then imagine the same user bringing out his battleship to the then new 0.0 battleship spawns to kite and mine, only to discover right there, he can't mwd out of the situation ilke he did before. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Slithereen	Posted - 2004.12.20 01:19:00 - [166] Edited by: Slithereen on 20/12/2004 01:21:51 Originally by: dalman What Estios has said. Did ANYONE really think that MWD/AB wouldn't get changed? Know the history and you'll now more of the future... History time! * In the beginning, MWDs could be fitted easily on cruisers (frigates too?). This made MWD 100% necessary. EVERYONE used MWD on their ships, and it was NOT fun. You could as well have taken away one medslot and increased the maxspeed on all ships. This is not correct actually. In the beginning, there was only one kind of MWD because it was considered an expensive high end item. The grid and cap requirements of this single MWD is so high, that only battleships can use this. Then the game was patched so that you can only jump from the gate at 1500m instead of 8000m, greatly lengthening travel time. The result of this, of course, was plain ugly. Battleships was so much faster than cruiser and frigates, resulting in a tremendous imbalance. Everyone had to get a battleship. This was also true with afterburners---there was only one type of afterburner that works with all ships, and this single afterburner has a frigate sized cap and grid requirement. This led to the change where you have 1mn, 10mn and 100mn ABs and MWDs. This changed enabled frigates and cruisers to MWD. There was a lot of wailing and weeping when it turns out that the expensive MWD you bought and fitted on your battleship, is now a 1MN MWD! Then imagine the same user bringing out his battleship to the then new 0.0 battleship spawns to kite and mine, only to discover right there, he can't mwd out of the situation ilke he did before. _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Mayas	Posted - 2004.12.22 21:25:00 - [167] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it. Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 14:19:52 I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. So let me get this straight, first you say its wrong to cry about not being able to play the style u wanna play and you shouldnt cry about it u should just accept it and deal with it, then you say that you can no longer play the play style u wanna play due to changes and... cry about it!? I must say you seem to loose track of your original point somewhere along the line... what is your point in with this post? cause u seem to contridict yourself here and that kinda leaves ur point a bit void
Mayas	Posted - 2004.12.22 21:25:00 - [168] Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 02:28:51 OK people of eve.It is time we get rid of all the greefers in this game.Caus some guy said OMG WAHAHA BU HU I WANA HUG,now i cant play this game the way i wana play it. Originally by: Zelota Edited by: Zelota on 17/12/2004 14:19:52 I my self cant play any more caus my GAME STILE has been DELETED so i cant play the way i wanted to play. So let me get this straight, first you say its wrong to cry about not being able to play the style u wanna play and you shouldnt cry about it u should just accept it and deal with it, then you say that you can no longer play the play style u wanna play due to changes and... cry about it!? I must say you seem to loose track of your original point somewhere along the line... what is your point in with this post? cause u seem to contridict yourself here and that kinda leaves ur point a bit void
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2004.12.22 22:04:00 - [169] The carebears will probably ruin this game. The problem is that they are in the majority, and CCP is running a business, so they have to appeal to the masses however dumb they may be. However, there is a remote chance, that with all the other non-pvp mmorg's out there, eve will find a PvP niche, which could save it. The other mmorg's that focus on PvE tend to be better at it than eve, so if eve goes pure carebear they will have to step up the PvE quite a bit in order to survive.
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2004.12.22 22:04:00 - [170] The carebears will probably ruin this game. The problem is that they are in the majority, and CCP is running a business, so they have to appeal to the masses however dumb they may be. However, there is a remote chance, that with all the other non-pvp mmorg's out there, eve will find a PvP niche, which could save it. The other mmorg's that focus on PvE tend to be better at it than eve, so if eve goes pure carebear they will have to step up the PvE quite a bit in order to survive.
Weirda	Posted - 2004.12.23 01:25:00 - [171] Nah - Whiners will ruin the game... they already do to some extent... and they come in all flavours... Doesn't really seem like it cater too much one way or the other though - just that certain tactics get invalidated (that generally go against intended game mechanics) and ppl cry about losing their precious God mode. Run your own Quake server if you want that... Shamis is right though - other games do PvE far better and this game is Way more geared to PvP then most... just ... well ... see above paragraph... Dr. Phil once said: "You wouldn't care about what people thought about you if you realized how little the did..." Forum monkees (like Weirda and the Like) are NOT the majority of the players in this game - and CCP know that... -- Thread Killer <END TRANSMISSION>
Weirda	Posted - 2004.12.23 01:25:00 - [172] Nah - Whiners will ruin the game... they already do to some extent... and they come in all flavours... Doesn't really seem like it cater too much one way or the other though - just that certain tactics get invalidated (that generally go against intended game mechanics) and ppl cry about losing their precious God mode. Run your own Quake server if you want that... Shamis is right though - other games do PvE far better and this game is Way more geared to PvP then most... just ... well ... see above paragraph... Dr. Phil once said: "You wouldn't care about what people thought about you if you realized how little the did..." Forum monkees (like Weirda and the Like) are NOT the majority of the players in this game - and CCP know that... -- Thread Killer <END TRANSMISSION>
throbbinnoggin	Posted - 2004.12.23 09:16:00 - [173] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz The carebears will probably ruin this game. Originally by: Weirda Nah - Whiners will ruin the game... thank you weirda for making the distinction Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'
throbbinnoggin	Posted - 2004.12.23 09:16:00 - [174] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz The carebears will probably ruin this game. Originally by: Weirda Nah - Whiners will ruin the game... thank you weirda for making the distinction Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. 'Abraham Lincoln'

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