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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.09.02 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sneaky Noob ok, "serious" reply this time:
I personally have no beef against anyone in Star Fraction, any of it's corps or the alliance in general. In the past they have been good allies to the corps in Minmatar Factional Warfare. They have provided intell, cap support, logistical support, and general combat support as well. Now, it is important to note that Minmatar Militia has also provided SF with the same... all in all it was a reciprocal relationship.
Where did it go wrong?
Simply put, the overheating of the propaganda machine without the corresponding results on the battlefield. When SF in general and Jade in particular start shutting up and showing up on the battlefield, all this pointless blaming and name-calling will be rendered moot. Factional Warfare corps on both sides ultimately respect one thing and one thing only. RESULTS. KILLS. Words are ephemeral and meaningless on the battlefield. Back up your words with actions.
Dare to ACT.
Welcome to the Revolution.
You will find constantly insulting your allies doesn't motivate them to fight with you.
Join the Revolution!
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.02 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 02/09/2010 19:14:50 Ice Fire Warriors
You will receive a war declaration soon.
Unfortunately, I'm not as patient and soft hearted as my lover.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Dunn Idaho
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.09.02 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis Edited by: Revan Neferis on 02/09/2010 19:14:50 Ice Fire Warriors
You will receive a war declaration soon.
Unfortunately, I'm not as patient and soft hearted as my lover.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
And this is how we win my dear.
by making you fight our battles for us.
Dunn Idaho Core Impulse
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.02 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Dunn Idaho
Originally by: Revan Neferis Edited by: Revan Neferis on 02/09/2010 19:14:50 Ice Fire Warriors
You will receive a war declaration soon.
Unfortunately, I'm not as patient and soft hearted as my lover.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
And this is how we win my dear.
by making you fight our battles for us.
Dunn Idaho Core Impulse
I'm a Sani Sabik, who wins or not here isn't my issue. Read the announcement about escalations of wars in Bleaklands and you will understand exactly how it works. At this point, yes you are deserving to win. I respect power not weakling moaning.
Congratulations to you so far. You are playing smarter than they are.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Colt Landers
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Posted - 2010.09.02 19:37:00 -
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I hate these boards, hate hearing about them, hate the chat channels I am in being cluttered by them. I will say though that Revan might accomplish what we all want by declaring war on IFW. She will possibly unify the militia. Unfortunately, the unification will be against her corp since it has decided to war dec a militia corp with closer ties to the TLF than "her lover". Never let emotion cloud logic. It would be no different than a pirate corp of Amamake war decing a militia corp. This will be very interesting to see the divide that happens if this war dec does come to pass. The target rich environment just gets richer.
-LP
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CCP Adida
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.02 19:38:00 -
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removed a couple ooc responses
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.02 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 02/09/2010 19:39:47
Originally by: Colt Landers I hate these boards, hate hearing about them, hate the chat channels I am in being cluttered by them. I will say though that Revan might accomplish what we all want by declaring war on IFW. She will possibly unify the militia. Unfortunately, the unification will be against her corp since it has decided to war dec a militia corp with closer ties to the TLF than "her lover". Never let emotion cloud logic. It would be no different than a pirate corp of Amamake war decing a militia corp. This will be very interesting to see the divide that happens if this war dec does come to pass. The target rich environment just gets richer.
-LP
That's a possibility too. Let's see if they are up to the challenge and perhaps some additional shaking on things will put these more unreliable minds and mouths in their rightful place.
Good observation, cheers
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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ChipMo
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.09.02 20:01:00 -
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*ChipMo laughs...
I have to presume that these "Ice Fire Warrior" pilots are Amarrian subterfuge agents. I can't honestly believe - even if they do dislike us - that they would reject our help when we ask for nothing in return.
Gift horse, mouth? - If this friction isn't smoothed out I expect you'll come to regret it sooner or later. SF is here for the long haul.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.02 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: ChipMo *ChipMo laughs...
I have to presume that these "Ice Fire Warrior" pilots are Amarrian subterfuge agents.
Absolutely, therefore their obvious inclusion into the list of CONCORD sanctioned wars that will soon happen, after Concord bureaucracy timing exceeds.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Kuan Yida
Minmatar Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:34:00 -
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It saddens and angers me to see this fighting. As a founding member of Huang Yinglong, I have flown with many current Star Fraction pilots before they joined, and indeed count among your members some of most closest comrades-in-arms. Axen Vormar, Dupuy, Vantlor, Clovnea, Tetseptus--these are all names that are honored with HUANG's halls.
Currently, I fly almost nightly with pilots of the Ice Fire Warriors. They represent, to me, the epitomy of Minmatar fighters--brave to the point of reckless, ferocious and fearless, ever seeking to bring the enemy to bear, heedless of danger, despising authority. I would target anyone, ANYONE who fired upon one of these brothers of mine. They rank among the finest fighters I have had the honor to serve with.
If they hold any pilot in low esteem, it is because the require, no, DEMAND proof of the worthiness of a pilot. And that worthiness is judged by the coldest of measures: enemy kills. They laugh at their own faults and mistakes, and laugh harder at others (I have been known to 'occasionally' abandon my drones on the field, for which I am the butt of endless jokes). Anyone who can prove their worth upon the field of battle earns their respect, even enemies. But those who posture and pontificate, claiming valor and success without the kills to back them up? Those pilots earn their open scorn.
I challenge any pilot in Star Fraction to refute my honor, or that of any HUANG pilot. That stated, though IFW pilots are tend to being crude and rude, by my estimation they have more than earned this right. Any who challenge their honor, loyalty to the Republic, or pure fighting ability, had better be able to point to their own combat record. And if they cannot, then I will side with my IFW brothers.
My personal pod pilot journal addressing my concerns about the current standing of Star Fraction can be found here. |
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Koronakesh
Amarr Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kuan Yida Edited by: Kuan Yida on 02/09/2010 23:40:40 I challenge any pilot in Star Fraction to refute my honor, or that of any HUANG pilot. That stated, though IFW pilots are tend to being crude and rude, by my estimation they have more than earned this right. Any who challenge their honor, loyalty to the Republic, or pure fighting ability, had better be able to point to their own combat record. And if they cannot, then I will side with my IFW brothers.
You and I've not met, Kuan Yida, and you're likely as ignorant of my history as I am of yours, but we've opposing views on this organization. As someone who fought them (ostensibly) over the better part of a year during my Crusade tenure, many of them are some of the least respectable individuals I've had the misfortune of meeting.
Your estimation they've some right here is incorrect. Consider yourself refuted, sir.
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jasper beamsalot
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis Edited by: Revan Neferis on 02/09/2010 19:14:50 Ice Fire Warriors
You will receive a war declaration soon.
Unfortunately, I'm not as patient and soft hearted as my lover.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
./popcorn
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/09/2010 00:36:38
Originally by: Kuan Yida I challenge any pilot in Star Fraction to refute my honor.
My personal pod pilot journal addressing my concerns about the current standing of Star Fraction can be found here.
This is a disgraceful and deceitful journal entry and I name you a cowardly crawling dog and challenge you to single combat if you have a valourous bone in your body. Battleships of choice to the death.
Your words are deeply ungrateful to warriors who have bled and sacrificed to our mutual cause. They are a dishonour to your people, your ancestors and your reputation.
Jade Constantine, Executor, Star Fraction.
Join the Revolution!
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: jasper beamsalot ./popcorn
No, war actually. And wine and cheese instead, popcorn is for paupers.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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jasper beamsalot
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.09.03 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/09/2010 00:36:38 This is a disgraceful and deceitful journal entry .. blah blah
Seems truth hurts, or are you so ignorant that you dont know how the majority of the militia see you?
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Chimaira wolf
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.03 01:08:00 -
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To wardec IFW is to wardec minmatar militia.
After speaking with some SF members it's clear the problem is with jade not their whole alliance. SF are pretty decent ppl.
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.03 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 03/09/2010 01:40:10
Originally by: Chimaira wolf To wardec IFW is to wardec minmatar militia.
You're welcome to fire back after they receive the wardec or even declare war yourselves. I assure you, more targets won't be an issue to the military forces in question.
IFW is welcome to make an apology statement directed to my lover before the war dec goes life if they want to avoid this minor issue inside the already confused Minmatar Militia. If not, so be it.
War it is.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Kuan Yida
Minmatar Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:00:00 -
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Jade: Accepted. Name your second, and I will name mine. As the challenged, I choose the weapon: Rupture cruisers. As to conditions, I will begin to consider these.
Vantlor and other SIF pilots: I drew special attention to SIF and Axen as being exceptions, and I bear you all only respect and friendship. You have above others have risked and lost much in the support of our fleets. I humbly apologize if I have impugned your honor or disparaged your worth. You remain a valued friend and ally, as do the other greats of the old Molden Heath NMTZ days. |
Sneaky Noob
Cartamundi
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: Revan Neferis Edited by: Revan Neferis on 03/09/2010 01:40:10
Originally by: Chimaira wolf To wardec IFW is to wardec minmatar militia.
You're welcome to fire back after they receive the wardec or even declare war yourselves. I assure you, more targets won't be an issue to the military forces in question.
IFW is welcome to make an apology statement directed to my lover before the war dec goes life if they want to avoid this minor issue inside the already confused Minmatar Militia. If not, so be it.
War it is.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
You don't get it do you?
We're are a Minmatar Militia Factional Warfare Corporation. We fight. This why we undock, this is what keeps us flying together, fighting together and dying together day after day.
To put it in words you can understand... more targets? bring it on sweetcheeks, we love ourselves a good wrestle.
Welcome to the Revolution... cover your hair and your eyes.
The Sneakiest N00b in all of EVE -------
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Silence iKillYouu
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:13:00 -
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Suddenly explosions.... Lots of them
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:17:00 -
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Edited by: Revan Neferis on 03/09/2010 02:19:04
Originally by: Sneaky Noob You don't get it do you?
Of course I do. You want more war decs, so it will be. I'll consider choosing other 4 minmatar militia corporations not associated with my friends and switch the programmed war decs that I had towards amarr, to the minmatar militia instead. To me, makes no difference.
I am very pleased to attend any request as such. If you think you will win any war by making allied, as enemies. indeed I start to see why Amarr is succeeding. You seem to need a better war strategist.
Revan Neferis Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Kaito Kenshin
Twilight Labs
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:47:00 -
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I just want to make sure I have this right in my head. I'm not trying to step on any toes.
Setting the stage: 1. ROSS and IFW are close allies in the Minmatar militia. 2. CORIM are some big dogs in the Amarr militia. 3. Jade (SF) and Revan (Archaeus) are happily in love.
Events: 1. SF declares war on CORIM to assist ROSS specifically, not the Minmatar militia. 2. Revan hires Genos to kinda fight CORIM, but more to be a wild card in the Bleak Lands purging humanity of weakness. Genos also engages SF and other targets of opportunity. 3. Jade and IFW get very mad at each other, so... 4. Archaeus declares war on IFW.
The effective result of all this is adding two new entities directing conflict toward each of the original players in this little opera: SF and Genos arrayed against the Amarrians; Archaeus and Genos arrayed against the Minmatar. But with SF only supporting part of the Minmatar militia while Archaeus fights the other part, how does one take bets on this conflict?
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Silence iKillYouu
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:49:00 -
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Wow u have a pretty epic Epeen revan!
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Revan Neferis
Amarr The Archaeus of Blood
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Posted - 2010.09.03 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kaito Kenshin I just want to make sure I have this right in my head. I'm not trying to step on any toes.
Setting the stage: 1. ROSS and IFW are close allies in the Minmatar militia. 2. CORIM are some big dogs in the Amarr militia. 3. Jade (SF) and Revan (Archaeus) are happily in love.
Events: 1. SF declares war on CORIM to assist ROSS specifically, not the Minmatar militia. 2. Revan hires Genos to kinda fight CORIM, but more to be a wild card in the Bleak Lands purging humanity of weakness. Genos also engages SF and other targets of opportunity. 3. Jade and IFW get very mad at each other, so... 4. Archaeus declares war on IFW.
The effective result of all this is adding two new entities directing conflict toward each of the original players in this little opera: SF and Genos arrayed against the Amarrians; Archaeus and Genos arrayed against the Minmatar. But with SF only supporting part of the Minmatar militia while Archaeus fights the other part, how does one take bets on this conflict?
I like that, but the pieces are not quite exactly as you put. You'll have a better overview soon about how the pieces are put here.
I like your report though. I truly do.
Originally by: Silence iKillYouu Wow u have a pretty epic Epeen revan!
What's that exactly? If you tell in details, I may be able to agree or disagree with you. Let's see.
Revan Neferis Thrice-illustrious Sovereign Sani Sabik
Originally by: Jade Constantine Why-o-why are our enemies so universally poor?
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Shalee Lianne
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:06:00 -
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Good luck Kuan! If you pod Jade can I have the corpse? Pretty please?
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Shalee Lianne
Good luck Kuan! If you pod Jade can I have the corpse? Pretty please?
Mmm, Amarrians cheering on the Matari against the Fraction. Says it all really. Suggests we are unwelcome guests in a private war rather profoundly.
On the duel.
Claire XXX will be my second and I accept your choice of weapon. Ruptures it will be. Obviously our duel will settle nothing since it is fought for anger and frustration and it will not still the bitterness I feel at the betrayal from those I considered friends and comrades and have fought very hard to help and protect in these long conflicts.
At best it will bring a moments gratification that at last I have brought a disrespectful forum speaker to battle as long as it lasts, but when the battle is done I doubt respect can find a place to rest on the splintered foundation of broken trust between us.
Win or lose you have lost a friend this day. But we will fight for the ritual of the thing. What else is there to do.
Join the Revolution!
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Kuan Yida
Minmatar Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:33:00 -
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Quote: Obviously our duel will settle nothing since it is fought for anger and frustration and it will not still the bitterness I feel at the betrayal from those I considered friends and comrades and have fought very hard to help and protect in these long conflicts.
I fight not from anger or frustration, but to defend and uphold honor, as I expect you do as well. I take no pleasure from this. I have been challenged, and let it not be said I have ever allowed a challenge and insults to myself and my comrades go unanswered.
I do not consider my criticisms of Star Fraction to be a betrayal. If you cannot swallow critique without hostility and anger, so be it.
I hope also to continue the friendship and alliance of my other comrades still within Star Fraction, and hope that some will speak on my behalf in defense of my honor. |
Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kuan Yida I fight not from anger or frustration, but to defend and uphold honor, as I expect you do as well.
No, there is no honour in this pitiful display of once allies seeking to kill each other over intemperate and disrespectful language, ungrateful backbiting and snide remarks. Just as their is no mutual respect towards those who wish to put the knife into the backs of those who have bled as comrades at your side in times before.
I don't fight you because I honour you Kuan Yida, this is not a duel for grandious purpose or honourable spectacle. I fight you as a funeral game for my trust and faith in the Matari character. Memorial for what is lost.
Our starships will circle in their violent display and regardless of result we have both lost an ally and friend and the universe will be the harder for us both in the future.
Perhaps you will recruit some of the Free Captains to your cause and I wish them well. Enjoy the friendship of a handfull when you used to have the support of us all.
Let us fight this duel on the ashes of our comradely-sense and invite the amarrians to come and laugh and sing at the pyre.
At the last it makes a wonderfully poignant farce.
Join the Revolution!
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Zverofaust
Gallente Locus Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.03 03:53:00 -
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If I may be so bold, I would like to offer my services as bookie and take bets on this fight. I myself put 10 million ISK down on Kuan Yida. ___________________________________________ The Hero of Kamela The Terror of Tararan The Executioner of Ezzara |
jasper beamsalot
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2010.09.03 04:36:00 -
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Edited by: jasper beamsalot on 03/09/2010 04:36:38
Originally by: Jade Constantine Edited by: Jade Constantine on 03/09/2010 03:39:25 Mmm, Amarrians cheering on the Matari against the Fraction. Says it all really. Suggests we are unwelcome guests in a private pony war rather profoundly.
First honest thing jade as said on galnet in some time. We did not ask for your help, nor will we stand by why you try and take credit for our efforts when you remain docked.
Originally by: Revan Neferis Edited by: Revan Neferis on 03/09/2010 01:40:10
IFW is welcome to make an apology statement directed to my lover before the war dec goes life if they want to avoid this minor issue inside the already confused Minmatar Militia.
We need to apologies? LOL. I refer to jades of the cuff reply to an IFW member saying æcomon jade stop the posting and come get some killsÆ
Originally by: Jade Constantine
I will tell you something right now ... Fighters of the Star Fraction have never been particularly impressed by the attitude of the Ice Fire Warriors and if you consider Star Fraction's involvement in this warzone to be a negative feel free to set us neutral and we will happily recipricate and ignore you. We didn't declare this campaign to help Ice Fire Warriors because frankly our past interactions have not convinced us that you are friends of the revolution and we are not going to put ships on the line to defend people who are constantly doing us down on galnet and local channels.
We don't need you in our fleets. We don't particularly trust you. There is absolutely no need for us to cooperate.
We are happy to fly with and help ANY member of the TLF who is interested in cooperation and wants to fight CORE more than making cheap forum points however.
But Ice Fire Warriors? You are nobody to us.
Sorry sir, this was not started by us. Jade got ****y due to the ppl they have declared to help (mini militia) are agreeing with the enemy that SF is all talk no action in its current incarnation.
Again truth must hurt.
So after this you (and your &*^% buddy) are now labelling us as Amarr Loyalist spies that are enemies of the republic?
You sir live in a warped universe.
IFW has always and will always continue to fight for the Minmartar people and support all TLF Corporations, We have in excess of 18,000 kills toward this cause, how many do your alliance 10x our size have?
Your alliance is behaving much live the AMARR empire and indeed the CVA alliance you claim is ur mortal enemy. When we did not full in line with your propaganda you label us traitors and try to pressure us into conforming with the ôWE LOVE SF BADNWAGONö, the irony is mind-blowing.
SF claims to aid the minmatar people. If this is true, leave the warzone, you are causing more disruption to our causse than any good you could bring.
If you remain in the war zone, we will have no choice but to engage your members as Revan is forcing our hand in this regard.
Originally by: Jade Constantine
But Ice Fire Warriors? You are nobody to us.
We will remind you of this when your unable to join any militia fleets without the fear of being killed by æyour peopleÆ.
And silence is correct, The militia corporations made a pact long ago that still stands, war dec one of us, the rest will war deck you back. So declaring war on IFW is indeed declaring war on the republic its self. Love to see the RP reasons for that.
I would also think the amarr would be agreeable to a seise-fire when we see SF on field so we can eradicate our common enemy, much like how we dealt with Bane/Heretics in battles long past, as SF has shown they are nothing more than a run-of-the-mill-wantbe-pirate but dont have the balls to be red alliance.
we await you on the battlefield.
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