hi sec is an echo chamber

Exactly

Hisec is what it is, if you get rid of it, you end EVE.

The sandbox is for everyone, and whatever playstyle the people want.

Far more subscriptions are highsec. So deal with it.

I'm a social player, but I do have an independent streak as well. I feel that given the options, High Sec is just fine for me. Yes, I have tried Null Sec, and I can honestly tell you that it is exactly what the players have made it, and they rightly deserve it. I want no part of it. Seems the only reason they come into High Sec is because of their blue balls from not finding targets because they have run them all away with their politics. Last I tried to move out there, I was told what to do, where to do it, how long I had to dedicate to doing it, and when to set the alarm clock to make the mandatory CTA's, all while having to pay out heavy rent and taxes just for the privalege.

I'm a paying player, not some basement dwellers online slave, or a meat bot. I play EvE to socialize, hang out, and do the many different activities that I find enjoyable. If you really, really, honestly want more people to come into Null sec, you first need to make some major changes to your Alliance rules. First big change is dropping NBSI policy and going with NRDS. Let smaller corps "squat" in your unused systems instead of charging unreasonably high rents. etc...

Who knows, it might just get interesting again.

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Get a buddy, in fact get as many buddies as you can.

Facts are, hi sec is an echo chamber where people who have never been to, or have had limited experience in, low/null talk about how dangerous low and null is. And because these ideas are never balanced with realistic feedback, this fear of the unknown festers and evolves into an insurmountable obstacle.

The trap is thinking that with just a slightly better ship or just a few more skillpoints that this obstacle will go away, but the massive amount of FUD spread by hi seccers creates a moving goalpost. No matter how far you advance, you can always find a further goal.

And then, because the hi seccers are moving their goalpost, they demand CCP put a hard limit on the risk for them. They demand changes that are designed to remove any sort of risk of moving to lo or null because, in their minds, they believe that even attempting to go to those places currently is a death sentence. This is where the more bizarre ideas for small holdings and making solo more viable come from.

Many of the denizens of the tar pit will blame others for their own failings. They will blame others for finding teams and working together. They will say that there's too much politics and that null sec attracts too many narcissists. They will claim that CCP has intentionally designed the game to feed the lo/null "1%" with 99% cannon fodder. They will even say that CCP should remove the benefits of flying with a team to make it easier for them.

This only transfers their own insecurities about lo sec onto others.

Avoiding the Tar Pit

• EVE Lifts Those Who Lift Each Other - Get a buddy, in fact get as many buddies as you can. This is not a game that rewards flying solo, so don't try to play it like that. This is not a game for people who don't want to work together. This game rewards cooperation and teamwork over phat l3wtz.
• Knowledge is Power - Instead of sitting in hi sec in ignorance, try learning some of the game mechanics that the pirates intend to use against you. If you honestly believe that jumping into a gate camp is an automatic death sentence, then you are doing it wrong. You can empower yourself by learning the traps they expect you to fall for and avoiding them.
• Don't Commit All At Once - You don't need to move your noctis and golem to lo sec to get into lo sec. You should start small, with cruisers and stuff. And try to get a team when you do commit. Once you get the feel of your region you can start bringing in the bigger stuff. Actually, you will find that for most PVP the bigger stuff isn't even that great!
• Don't Demand Changes to Ecosystems You Don't Understand - If you are willing to admit you've never lived in lo/null, don't suggest changes to those systems! This will only serve to make you look like a fool to those who actually do live in those places and are not stuck in the hi sec tar pit trap.

Remember above all that the first step to lifting yourself is to lift each other.

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Facts are, hi sec is an echo chamber where people who have never been to, or have had limited experience in, low/null talk about how dangerous low and null is. And because these ideas are never balanced with realistic feedback, this fear of the unknown festers and evolves into an insurmountable obstacle.

The trap is thinking that with just a slightly better ship or just a few more skillpoints that this obstacle will go away, but the massive amount of FUD spread by hi seccers creates a moving goalpost. No matter how far you advance, you can always find a further goal.

And then, because the hi seccers are moving their goalpost, they demand CCP put a hard limit on the risk for them. They demand changes that are designed to remove any sort of risk of moving to lo or null because, in their minds, they believe that even attempting to go to those places currently is a death sentence. This is where the more bizarre ideas for small holdings and making solo more viable come from.

Many of the denizens of the tar pit will blame others for their own failings. They will blame others for finding teams and working together. They will say that there's too much politics and that null sec attracts too many narcissists. They will claim that CCP has intentionally designed the game to feed the lo/null "1%" with 99% cannon fodder. They will even say that CCP should remove the benefits of flying with a team to make it easier for them.

This only transfers their own insecurities about lo sec onto others.

Avoiding the Tar Pit

• EVE Lifts Those Who Lift Each Other - Get a buddy, in fact get as many buddies as you can. This is not a game that rewards flying solo, so don't try to play it like that. This is not a game for people who don't want to work together. This game rewards cooperation and teamwork over phat l3wtz.
• Knowledge is Power - Instead of sitting in hi sec in ignorance, try learning some of the game mechanics that the pirates intend to use against you. If you honestly believe that jumping into a gate camp is an automatic death sentence, then you are doing it wrong. You can empower yourself by learning the traps they expect you to fall for and avoiding them.
• Don't Commit All At Once - You don't need to move your noctis and golem to lo sec to get into lo sec. You should start small, with cruisers and stuff. And try to get a team when you do commit. Once you get the feel of your region you can start bringing in the bigger stuff. Actually, you will find that for most PVP the bigger stuff isn't even that great!
• Don't Demand Changes to Ecosystems You Don't Understand - If you are willing to admit you've never lived in lo/null, don't suggest changes to those systems! This will only serve to make you look like a fool to those who actually do live in those places and are not stuck in the hi sec tar pit trap.

Remember above all that the first step to lifting yourself is to lift each other.

I don't want to get rid of hi sec.

I do want to keep my lo/null sec intact.

"headset wearing rent slave"

you really can't make this **** up

Either CCP provide the sandbox with proper small gang objectives except killmails or sov 0.0 will remain stagnant - there's only so many people who enjoy being a mindless drone (or herding cats in case you FC).

Facts are, hi sec is an echo chamber where people who have never been to, or have had limited experience in, low/null talk about how dangerous low and null is. And because these ideas are never balanced with realistic feedback, this fear of the unknown festers and evolves into an insurmountable obstacle.

The trap is thinking that with just a slightly better ship or just a few more skillpoints that this obstacle will go away, but the massive amount of FUD spread by hi seccers creates a moving goalpost. No matter how far you advance, you can always find a further goal.

And then, because the hi seccers are moving their goalpost, they demand CCP put a hard limit on the risk for them. They demand changes that are designed to remove any sort of risk of moving to lo or null because, in their minds, they believe that even attempting to go to those places currently is a death sentence. This is where the more bizarre ideas for small holdings and making solo more viable come from.

Many of the denizens of the tar pit will blame others for their own failings. They will blame others for finding teams and working together. They will say that there's too much politics and that null sec attracts too many narcissists. They will claim that CCP has intentionally designed the game to feed the lo/null "1%" with 99% cannon fodder. They will even say that CCP should remove the benefits of flying with a team to make it easier for them.

This only transfers their own insecurities about lo sec onto others.

Avoiding the Tar Pit

• EVE Lifts Those Who Lift Each Other - Get a buddy, in fact get as many buddies as you can. This is not a game that rewards flying solo, so don't try to play it like that. This is not a game for people who don't want to work together. This game rewards cooperation and teamwork over phat l3wtz.
• Knowledge is Power - Instead of sitting in hi sec in ignorance, try learning some of the game mechanics that the pirates intend to use against you. If you honestly believe that jumping into a gate camp is an automatic death sentence, then you are doing it wrong. You can empower yourself by learning the traps they expect you to fall for and avoiding them.
• Don't Commit All At Once - You don't need to move your noctis and golem to lo sec to get into lo sec. You should start small, with cruisers and stuff. And try to get a team when you do commit. Once you get the feel of your region you can start bringing in the bigger stuff. Actually, you will find that for most PVP the bigger stuff isn't even that great!
• Don't Demand Changes to Ecosystems You Don't Understand - If you are willing to admit you've never lived in lo/null, don't suggest changes to those systems! This will only serve to make you look like a fool to those who actually do live in those places and are not stuck in the hi sec tar pit trap.

Remember above all that the first step to lifting yourself is to lift each other.

"headset wearing rent slave"

you really can't make this **** up

Headset wearing rent slave

The mere memory has me thinking that I can't possibly eat as much as I'd like to throw up.

Headset wearing rent slave should not be pushed as the end game of EVE. I've read this all hundreds of times before in similar threads. Good luck.

Facts are, hi sec is an echo chamber where people who have never been to, or have had limited experience in, low/null talk about how dangerous low and null is.

Exactly

Hisec is what it is, if you get rid of it, you end EVE.

The sandbox is for everyone, and whatever playstyle the people want.

Far more subscriptions are highsec. So deal with it.