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Nova Tiempo
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:09:00 -
[1111]
I feel the need to add annother plate to this threadnaught.
My initial reaction on hearing a corp mate tell me, "youve got to look at this, ccp have posted an award thread they like us to vote on..." was just "Not after the new sov patch introduced the unplayablity feature" even before I knew the average response. I've let my main capital pilot run out of plex, and am focusing my exploration alt on building ravens in empire. I think I only play eve 4 hours a week now, and its not because Im bored of the game... Its just I can no longer have fleet fights. PvP these days is either small roaming (were you have locking time fights with your fleet mates on stray shuttles) or gate camps. I get the same level of satifaction reading about capital fights in far off regions as I do turning up to one and watching... well, nothing.
This is the state of the game snce december 09, and aparently will be the state of the game till december 11. Unless CCP decides to quit messing about with their planned trivial "expansion" content and FIX the game, I'll have long since given up on all my accounts. The only reason I can think of that anyone at ccp, much less the apparent 100% consencuss of allowing the bugs to stay, if not grow, is that theyve got so many empire dwellers subscribing that they simply dont care that 0.0 is unplayable, and wish to die a slow and painfull mmo death as their fans drop away one by one.
I enjoyed eve once, and am beginning to wonder if I will do so again.
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Eklykti
Caldari Zion foundation Red Alliance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:25:00 -
[1112]
Fix lag first.
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bongono
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:33:00 -
[1113]
no
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.07.31 02:37:00 -
[1114]
I can't believe CCP has NOT issued a statement to the players yet. They did respond to one of the "news" sites, but that is hardly something that will be seen here...
CCP say you're sorry that you led us to believe you put lag on the back burner.
Come on guys, SAY SOMETHING
Apollo TO CCP: The implicit promise of polished quality keeps me playing through the rough times. Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. |
Xikorita
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.07.31 03:18:00 -
[1115]
I find it very funny that to the media the fleet problem is the 1st priority but to us and in official statements it is obviously not.
Riiight, very nice indeed =/
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Isaac Apylon
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.07.31 03:32:00 -
[1116]
Sorry, CCP, but the data currently does not support voting for your horribly broken game.
I'm not a hardcore nullsec player; heck I'm not even a hardcore eve player. I fork up my subscription fee or Plex each month, play the game when I have time, and (used to) have a good bit of fun. But even I can see that Eve is not what it used to be, whether you're in 0.0 or not. The lag monster is reaching as far as hisec at times, and don't even get me started on my few trips down to null. I sat around in a system with 3 people at one point and waited several minutes for my modules to cycle. I'd hate to imagine how it is for people actually participating in the huge battles.
And the lag isn't even the entire problem. The last two expansions might as well have been vaporware for all the effect they had on the game. Dominion introduced a broken sov system that did nothing for anyone outside of 0.0 except feed the lag monster radioactive juice, and Tyrannis is just crap. You seriously call a ****ed up clickfest an expansion? Really?! Lag continues unabated and many of the basic fixes asked for by players remain unaddressed, and you have the audacity to tell us that you'll get to it in 18 months, so you can work on some more vaporware? **** that.
Don't get me wrong, I love Eve, I really do. I have not seen another game that lets the player do everything they can do in Eve. The amount of freedom is unparalleled. I've been with the game for two years now, and they have been good for the most part. But the last two pathetic excuses for expansions, coupled with the treatment of the player base in the wake of CSM5, tell me that Eve is not the game it used to be, and it likely will not be for the next year or two.
I'll be plopping down one more Plex for the next month. That's all the time I'm giving to see whether or not CCP actually cares about their game. If nothing happens, well, I'll just let my account expire and leave it at that. Won't be happy about it, but hey, I'm not going to keep investing my time in the game when management clearly doesn't want to meaningfully invest their time in it, either.
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 04:05:00 -
[1117]
As a person who does not own a console and plays Eve to be in space. **** Incarna. **** Dust. Fix my god damn space ships.
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Elder Lemon
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Posted - 2010.07.31 04:35:00 -
[1118]
Edited by: Elder Lemon on 31/07/2010 04:40:53
Vote for eve? why should i. Its a second job i have to pay for. How many of my pettitions have gotten the ansewrs i was looking for? Oh thats right, NONE. How many ships have become useless due to "upgrades'? lets see here, 1, 2, 10... How many ships are still useless due to lack of cinsideration in design? In my opinion the rokh needs some serius thinking. Was i renbursed for a game flaw? Nope, "though there is no way to verify it, as our logs show no abnormal circumstances involved in this case". 10k vollies in a level 4 with NO enemies should instapop my ship as much as you guys make a worthwhile fix,and thats next to never.
Do i still like eve? hell yes Will i continue to play? hell yeah Am i going to rate it #1 best online game? HELL NO!
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2010.07.31 04:44:00 -
[1119]
So the lag monster is now affecting smaller gangs, eh? Let's start making bets on when the 1v1 fights get lag-bombed to death.
On voting: don't even think about it. I should be voting for EVE because I don't care about any of the other games, but Tyrannis is just not worth voting for.
Editorial: if CCP is trying to control server lag by getting players to quit, they are succeeding.
[sarcasm] Nice post Zymurgist. [/sarcasm] ____________________
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
Zulimu
Minmatar Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 05:18:00 -
[1120]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
So, CCP keeps weeing on the heads of their customers, telling them its warm rain and YOU expect us to vote for it as the best online game?
Thx for making me aware theres actually a vote going, i regged and made sure to vote something else.
Fix EvE and we might talk about it next time!
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Kazn Antilli
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.07.31 06:29:00 -
[1121]
Sorry CCP. You're not getting any help from the "vocal minority."
I feel that I love this game enough to be a harsh critic, and I will say that I don't believe you deserve the vote this time around. Get your act together.
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Rokkas
Caldari SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.07.31 06:48:00 -
[1122]
...in the words of germany's former foreign minister Fischer:"I am not convinced", therefore no vote from me.
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Abulurd Boniface
Gallente 0ccam's Razor Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:00:00 -
[1123]
This thread is petering out. If it had not been stickied it'd be gone from page one already.
That is the bane of society these days: people just don't care anymore.
For good to survive it suffices for evil to acquire a deadly, incapacitating disease. |
Kitty Meow
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:01:00 -
[1124]
My 2 ISK worth.
I have read "The 0.0 Report", in E-ON Issue 20, and the news reports of fleet warfare. Nearly all battles mentioned had massive lag in them. With the Tyranis expansion, CCP break the "Contact List" and remold it as a "Standings List", just to name one issue.
So...........
"Incarna" - I don't see how ambulation would improve Eve. It might simply do better with simply more animation, (agent expressions).
Will I vote for Eve, for best game of the year? - Unfortunately, I can't. Sorry CCP, but please, do fix the many issues the game has.
Kitty.
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:05:00 -
[1125]
I, for one, will not be voting for EVE Online to receive any type of award until the majority of the base concerns are addressed within EVE Online.
Until management and shareholders of CCP Games understand that they are moving too fast into new markets that they have not experience being in (First Person MMOs and shooters) nothing will be fixed. With the current development schedule they have, as I understand it, they intend to roll out Incarna within the year and then roll out DUST514 after that. This is WAY too fast and they need to tone down the pace a bit or they will have a failed product on their hands. (I point to Star Trek Online when it first came out as an example) We live in an age where the consumer is well informed. If a product is a good one, the consumers will rally more people to subscribe to it. (I point to Amazons kindle as an example) I believe that CCP needs to subscribe to a long term philosophy instead of satisfying shareholder wants if they want to continue their image of a consumer friendly company.
What I would like to see is CCP Games stepping back a little and providing support for their current subscribers while passively developing their Incarna expansion. Personally I think the deadline set for Incarna is inappropriate now that new Lag issues have appeared and ongoing balance and Game play issues have built up over the years. These need to be addressed before moving forward.
Historically, CCP has 2 expansions per year (one in summer and winter). I think that it is about time that CCP sets aside one expansions for game improvements (UI tweaks/redesigns, Game balancing, Game mechanic changes, and Core code rebuilds) and have the other expansion set aside for new content (Incarna, PI, Ships, New Functions/Additions, World/Game shaping changes) I think this will bode well for both CCP Games, as a company, its employees, and its costumers as it will give a since of consistency and stability to all parties involved.
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Liandra Xi
Amarr Ascendent. On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:23:00 -
[1126]
Edited by: Liandra Xi on 31/07/2010 07:25:50 For those who haven't seen the articles yet:
EVE Solicits Player Support, Players Solicit Lag Fix http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix/ http://www.xboxcentre.com/eve-solicits-player-support-players-solicit-lag-fix.html http://beginnergamer.blogspot.com/2010/07/eve-solicits-player-support-players.html
EVE players trash CCP in European Games Award thread http://rockpapershotgun.com/rpsforum/topic.php?id=3151
Eve Online 'broken' by in-game lag http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=257716
Size Doesn't Matter http://noprisonersnomercy.com/2010/07/size-doesnt-matter/
Vote eve online for best game at european games award <insert ironicat here> http://www.**********.com/showthread.php?6645-Vote-eve-online-for-best-game-at-european-games-award-lt-insert-ironicat-here-gt
Iceland, we have a problem! http://teadaze.net/GalNet/
Theres also trackbacks on twitter, reddit, diggit, etc... linkbacks, and various other blog sites also discussing it. If you find more articles about it post them here for the players and CCP and quote this post so they can't ignore it.
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Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
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Posted - 2010.07.31 07:29:00 -
[1127]
This thread is amazing, for all the wrong reasons. And yet, the reactions are as unsurprising as they are sad.
Fwiw, the only reason I'm still subbed to the game is because I've switched to PLEXes. CCP may still get their money, but it sure as hell won't be coming from me. Not for 18 months or so, anyway.
/Ben
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:09:00 -
[1128]
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface This thread is petering out. If it had not been stickied it'd be gone from page one already.
That is the bane of society these days: people just don't care anymore.
It isn't that people don't care. But how many times can you say "No, your game is horribly broken and we the player base don't think you deserve this award until you fix the game."? Because that sums up pretty much every post on every page in this thread.
I mean if CCP hasn't got the message by now... do you really think they'll ever get it?
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:15:00 -
[1129]
Originally by: Vaneshi SnowCrash
Originally by: Abulurd Boniface This thread is petering out. If it had not been stickied it'd be gone from page one already.
That is the bane of society these days: people just don't care anymore.
It isn't that people don't care. But how many times can you say "No, your game is horribly broken and we the player base don't think you deserve this award until you fix the game."? Because that sums up pretty much every post on every page in this thread.
I mean if CCP hasn't got the message by now... do you really think they'll ever get it?
I was one of the 'vocal minority' who thought the game was worth trying to salvage. I'm now one of the silent minority who have decided that there really is no reason to play while it's this broken. CCP didn't really need our money anyway right?
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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:24:00 -
[1130]
Don't worry guys when i am back in 18 months i will still be an excellent poster.
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Gnidex
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Posted - 2010.07.31 08:25:00 -
[1131]
Best troll post ever. Try it again in 18 months, maybe by that time i'll have the resources available to handle a mouseclick. Not like some of the issues that need to be adressed require more than just tinkering with a number in some database. Fire your game balance team and the designers responsible for PI CCP.
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr InterSun Freelance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:07:00 -
[1132]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist The European Games Award is the first award exclusively for European games and is now looking for votes from gamers for the best European video and computer games. EVE Online has been nominated for best Online Game but needs your vote to win the competition. Check out what games are being nominated for here and then cast your vote for EVE Online for best online game!
R U 4 real? The threadnought this post has sparked should tell CCP all it needs to know re: how the playerbase feels about EVE and CCP right now. The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor, not because their game is in anyways still half decent (note to CCP: it's not).
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Lexa HeIIfury
Incura HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:37:00 -
[1133]
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
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Hulkageddon Jackpot
Amarr Hulkageddon Orphanage HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:40:00 -
[1134]
Originally by: Lexa HeIIfury
Originally by: Solomunio Kzenig The only reason CCP and EVE are still in existence is the lack of a serious competitor
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Laveaolous
20th Legion Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.07.31 09:56:00 -
[1135]
Sorry CCP but I am abstaining this year, which dissapoints me more than you its seems.
At this point I think that you should be happy enough that I still care enough to pay for 2 accounts and PLEX 1, but this loyalty and patience is not infinate.
Balls in your court, you have dropped it but still have time to pick it up and toss it back.
----------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Whisper
Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Solomunio Kzenig
Amarr InterSun Freelance
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:35:00 -
[1136]
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel I can't believe CCP has NOT issued a statement to the players yet. They did respond to one of the "news" sites, but that is hardly something that will be seen here...
CCP say you're sorry that you led us to believe you put lag on the back burner.
Come on guys, SAY SOMETHING
Apollo
The response was by an unamed CCP 'source', and was essentially a bunch of marketing BS, so its pretty much worth nothing
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Marcus Vorenius
Caldari Citadel Enterprise
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:38:00 -
[1137]
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
holy smokes - the 88mm is my favorite gun. It was developed as an anti-aircraft gun and was used on tanks, subs and as an anti-tank gun with great success. I would really like a couple of those instead of my crappy Rocket Launchers. _____________________________ Lessons Learned from New Eden |
Bobbechk
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:46:00 -
[1138]
Originally by: Marcus Vorenius
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
holy smokes - the 88mm is my favorite gun. It was developed as an anti-aircraft gun and was used on tanks, subs and as an anti-tank gun with great success. I would really like a couple of those instead of my crappy Rocket Launchers.
im a big fan of the 100mm on my t-43 also! ________
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:48:00 -
[1139]
Originally by: Ace Frehley
Omg Ed, that is a lot, I just have my panzer4jager and panzer 3 :/ can we get the 88 into eve and you mybe get me back, cuz yesterday I couldnt even log into cloud ring
What can I say? I love variety. I rebought my luchs as well. I like the speedy zoom zoom with 6 tanks tryign to snipe me.
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Deldrac
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.31 10:56:00 -
[1140]
There is a lot of optimism in this thread about how CCP might do some worthwhile development on EVE in 18 months time.
No such promise was made in the dev blogs, all they committed to was not doing anything worth a damn on the next 2 expansions, and that they hadn't decided what to do in 18 months. You guys really shouldn't get your hopes up.
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