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Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:26:00 - [1] I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Possible reasons: 1. Do not care about fleet battles. 2. New expansions content (PI) is boring players. 3. Latest CSM minutes and outcomes. 4. Critical levels of trolling from cowardly alts while regular posters get admonished. Discuss. Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist
Oricalchum	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:28:00 - [2] :popcorn: Lemme fetch that kitten.
Joe Phoenix	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:28:00 - [3] I completely agree somthing has to change!
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:30:00 - [4] Nah the rage is normaly this stong, it just looks bad because they have something new to rage about.
Killstealing	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:31:00 - [5] You heard it here guys, levels of trolling are CRITICAL CODE RED CODE RED
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Gladys Pank I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Possible reasons: 1. Do not care about fleet battles. 2. New expansions content (PI) is boring players. 3. Latest CSM minutes and outcomes. 4. Critical levels of trolling from cowardly alts while regular posters get admonished. Discuss. You think CCP is doing a bad job because people are trolling the forums. Therefore the entire internet is fail. This is clearly a signature.
Berneh LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Gladys Pank I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Possible reasons: 1. Do not care about fleet battles. 2. New expansions content (PI) is boring players. 3. Latest CSM minutes and outcomes. 4. Critical levels of trolling from cowardly alts while regular posters get admonished. Discuss. I would go along with that, it looks like cp dont give a **** about us at the moment.
Aiwha Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:45:00 - [8] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Gladys Pank I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Possible reasons: 1. Do not care about fleet battles. 2. New expansions content (PI) is boring players. 3. Latest CSM minutes and outcomes. 4. Critical levels of trolling from cowardly alts while regular posters get admonished. Discuss. You think CCP is doing a bad job because people are trolling the forums. Therefore the entire internet is fail. The entire internet is fail.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:48:00 - [9] I think the main cause of anger is that a year ago before Dominion the game way better and more playable in every substansive way. CCP utterly broke the game and they refuse to fix it. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Ran Khanon Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:49:00 - [10] EVERYBODY CALM THE **** DOWN THIS ISN'T HELPING ANYONE smashes coffee mug then listens to soothing French love song I agree with everything Barakkus posts.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:55:00 - [11] On the other hand part of the problem is that the last patch added nothing to the game at all so it has given players time to pause and ponder just how badly Dominion wrecked the game(while adding rather little itself). If you dont give players something new and interesting to do they start to look around. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Terbulus	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:57:00 - [12] confirmed I have resubed WoW
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:58:00 - [13] Originally by: Ghoest On the other hand part of the problem is that the last patch added nothing to the game at all so it has given players time to pause and ponder just how badly Dominion wrecked the game(while adding rather little itself). If you dont give players something new and interesting to do they start to look around. I am making quite a bit of isk thanks to some of the changes.
Corozan Aspinall Party Time Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.27 19:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Gladys Pank I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Possible reasons: 1. Do not care about fleet battles. Of course they care and are attempting to fix the issue as evidenced by mass testing that is on-going. Quote: 2. New expansions content (PI) is boring players. Compared to what? More than endless missions? More than mining? Its well established fact Eve is what you make of it and who you make something of it with. Blaming the game mechanics for failing to entertain every second of every minute you spend in Eve is kinda fail. Quote: 3. Latest CSM minutes and outcomes. I think its pretty naive to suppose the CSM has any real input on development tbh. Make of that what you will .. Don't discount the dev blog that clearly defines what CCP is doing and with what resources. That's their call. Not yours or mine or anyone else's. Quote: 4. Critical levels of trolling from cowardly alts while regular posters get admonished. 7. Trolling is prohibited. Quote: Discuss. Or just stop trolling.
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:12:00 - [15] Originally by: Ghoest CCP utterly broke the game and they refuse to fix it. Finally somebody figured it out. It isnt because they had major changes to the codebase and such things take a while to iron out the quirks, THEY DO IT ON PURPOSE!!! YOU BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fakeedit: My game actually has improved a bit I'd say, but I dont give a rats backside about blobfests so maybe its just that.
Lubomir Penev interimo	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:30:00 - [16] Originally by: baltec1 Nah the rage is normaly this stong, it just looks bad because they have something new to rage about. I thought the rage was about raging over the same thing for years. When stuff doesn't improve discontent increases. What CCP is trying to do with it's feature over quality strategy is the equivalent of giving thrash reality TV to a starving population. Sure this will keep them busy a while, will even get the fanboys to cheer, but when they'll be hungry enough they'll still riot.
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:52:00 - [17] Originally by: Gladys Pank I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Possible reasons: 1. Do not care about fleet battles. 2. New expansions content (PI) is boring players. 3. Latest CSM minutes and outcomes. 4. Critical levels of trolling from cowardly alts while regular posters get admonished. Discuss. 1. From what I understand, they are working on it and running stress tests etc. on SiSi. So you cant claim they dont care. 2. Mining in general is boring. But people do it anyway. PI is just the same, but on planets. 3. CSM minutes = CSM minutes. Nothing new. 4. Critical level of trolling. I guess, but thats against forum rules and those should be banned. I dont see CCP messing up. I however see lots of players messing up. Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
MyMainIsBiomass Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:55:00 - [18] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker I dont see CCP messing up. I however see lots of players messing up. It's all the players fault?! OMG priceless
BrundleMeth Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:56:00 - [19] Edited by: BrundleMeth on 27/07/2010 20:56:39 Originally by: Ran Khanon EVERYBODY CALM THE **** DOWN THIS ISN'T HELPING ANYONE smashes coffee mug then listens to soothing French love song Them there's fightin words bud. Wanna step out side and make sumthin out of it??? runs to get uber frigate
Ressiv Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association	Posted - 2010.07.27 20:56:00 - [20] Originally by: Terbulus confirmed I have resubed WoW Can I have your stuffs ? ========================== Nothing is true, everything is permitted. ==========================
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.27 21:04:00 - [21] Quote: 4. Critical level of trolling. I guess, but thats against forum rules and those should be banned. I have to LOL at that pretty hard. Reason being is that for example if you post a build in the ships and modules forum that has less than 100% possible DPS for that ship you WILL be called stupid. If you ask for advice on a specific ship you will be told to fly another ship, and that your current ship choice is stupid. Secondly, anything you post at all (any non RP forum now) will be argued both for and against. Both sides will accuse you of trolling. If posting controversial material is trolling then EVERYONE is trolling as eve is conflict-centric. That being said, the mods seem to know what they are doing. I have posted many posts where I said I was trolling sarcastically and it was taken that way by the mods. That's all that really counts IMHO. You can't come here and start ** for the sake of it, but if you have a legit beef the let it go if you don't break any rules. TL;DR Its not trolling just because you know ppl will flame it, it's only trolling if you post with the intent of **ing them off to entice flaming. This is clearly a signature.
Ran Khanon Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.07.27 21:06:00 - [22] Originally by: BrundleMeth Edited by: BrundleMeth on 27/07/2010 20:56:39 Originally by: Ran Khanon EVERYBODY CALM THE **** DOWN THIS ISN'T HELPING ANYONE smashes coffee mug then listens to soothing French love song Them there's fightin words bud. Wanna step out side and make sumthin out of it??? runs to get uber frigate T1 Cruisers, Jita, at dawn! I agree with everything Barakkus posts.
BrundleMeth Caldari Temporal Mechanics	Posted - 2010.07.27 21:08:00 - [23] Edited by: BrundleMeth on 27/07/2010 21:11:23 Originally by: Ran Khanon Originally by: BrundleMeth Edited by: BrundleMeth on 27/07/2010 20:56:39 Originally by: Ran Khanon EVERYBODY CALM THE **** DOWN THIS ISN'T HELPING ANYONE smashes coffee mug then listens to soothing French love song Them there's fightin words bud. Wanna step out side and make sumthin out of it??? runs to get uber frigate T1 Cruisers, Jita, at dawn! Your time, my time, or EVE time? Originally by: Cipher Jones If you ask for advice on a specific ship you will be told to fly another ship, and that your current ship choice is stupid. Yeah this. I have determined by the many posts here that the only ship anyone should fly in this game is... none.
Ran Khanon Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal	Posted - 2010.07.27 21:14:00 - [24] Originally by: BrundleMeth Originally by: Ran Khanon Originally by: BrundleMeth Edited by: BrundleMeth on 27/07/2010 20:56:39 Originally by: Ran Khanon EVERYBODY CALM THE **** DOWN THIS ISN'T HELPING ANYONE smashes coffee mug then listens to soothing French love song Them there's fightin words bud. Wanna step out side and make sumthin out of it??? runs to get uber frigate T1 Cruisers, Jita, at dawn! Your time, my time, or EVE time? Any time! (Must be dawn somewhere rite?) But how about tomorrow around 19:00 EVE time? I agree with everything Barakkus posts.
Grath Telkin Amarr Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.07.27 21:33:00 - [25] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker 1. From what I understand, they are working on it and running stress tests etc. on SiSi. So you cant claim they dont care. See, this is a major problem. Operations in EVE take SO MUCH ****ING TIME (8 hours to set up and arm a deathstar) that NOBODY has the time to take out and go to the test server. Consequently, the big fights they should in fact be monitoring (most of which happen on reinforced nodes, that we were obligated to notify them of, 24 hours before hand, thus giving ample time to have the monitoring equipment in place, OH WAIT THERES ONLY 3 GUYS CAUSE THE REST OF CCP HAS TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN WALK IN STATIONS) only happen on the live server. It goes like this: We pay them to do a job, there are no reverse incentives for us to show up at testing, except the POSSIBILITY of a better game, 18 months from now, which, in actuality we've already paid them for, so its a circular feeding cycle. We have to take time out of the grind that is A) setting up towers that take ridiculously long times B) posting ops to shoot IHUBS, TCUs, Stations, SBU's, THREE TIMES EACH C) grinding through the MILLIONS (100 million per cycle on some objects) of hit points on said ops D) staring at a black screen for 4 hours, or waiting for your mods to unstick for 4 hours, or waiting for a grid to load for 4 hours. CCP could freeze sov warfare to encourage people to go to the testing, but the result would be a massive account drop as people got bored, because 0.0 is simply about empire building, and destroying, if you take that out, you lose the player interest. Tl: DR its not our job to show up to mass testing, we pay for CCP to do this, theres already too much we have to be concerned with on the live server, so that excuse about mass testing can go to hell, and if they were serious, the tests would be happening with more frequency.
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.07.27 21:37:00 - [26] lw sec was nerfed, 00 has been nered, PI isnt automated, lag is still with us.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.27 21:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Grath Telkin Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker 1. From what I understand, they are working on it and running stress tests etc. on SiSi. So you cant claim they dont care. See, this is a major problem. Operations in EVE take SO MUCH ****ING TIME (8 hours to set up and arm a deathstar) that NOBODY has the time to take out and go to the test server. Consequently, the big fights they should in fact be monitoring (most of which happen on reinforced nodes, that we were obligated to notify them of, 24 hours before hand, thus giving ample time to have the monitoring equipment in place, OH WAIT THERES ONLY 3 GUYS CAUSE THE REST OF CCP HAS TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN WALK IN STATIONS) only happen on the live server. It goes like this: We pay them to do a job, there are no reverse incentives for us to show up at testing, except the POSSIBILITY of a better game, 18 months from now, which, in actuality we've already paid them for, so its a circular feeding cycle. We have to take time out of the grind that is A) setting up towers that take ridiculously long times B) posting ops to shoot IHUBS, TCUs, Stations, SBU's, THREE TIMES EACH C) grinding through the MILLIONS (100 million per cycle on some objects) of hit points on said ops D) staring at a black screen for 4 hours, or waiting for your mods to unstick for 4 hours, or waiting for a grid to load for 4 hours. CCP could freeze sov warfare to encourage people to go to the testing, but the result would be a massive account drop as people got bored, because 0.0 is simply about empire building, and destroying, if you take that out, you lose the player interest. Tl: DR its not our job to show up to mass testing, we pay for CCP to do this, theres already too much we have to be concerned with on the live server, so that excuse about mass testing can go to hell, and if they were serious, the tests would be happening with more frequency. The problem has been identified, the cpu load increased with Dominion. The mass testing is exactly that, mass testing. Its either alter the code to decrease the cpu load or get better cpu's. Getting better cpu's is not just a plug and play thing like it is on your home PC, it takes a relatively huge amount of resources to accomplish. This is clearly a signature.
Jade Kitana	Posted - 2010.07.27 22:31:00 - [28] Since when is rage new to these forums? Or even increasing? I suggest you start at about page 4000 in General Discussion and read for a few hrs.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente Luxury Exports The Honda Accord	Posted - 2010.07.27 23:49:00 - [29] I am coming out of my posting torpor to deliver this message: I was at work the other day and was talking with a customer. I had asked him what kind of experience he had working with computers and he said some, and he reads a lot, plays some games, etc. He mentioned he reads some forum (I don't remember which one) and I asked him if he ever posts. He said "I don't really ever post, I just troll the forums all day long." :\ I feel like people misuse the word "troll" when it is in relation to a forum far too often. Either that or they just see it being used all the time and then think it just means "to look through," which in fact is actually lurking. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Independent Faction	Posted - 2010.07.27 23:56:00 - [30] Originally by: Gladys Pank 4. Critical levels of trolling from cowardly alts while regular posters get admonished. Yep, I walked into a cluster **** a couple weeks ago when all the alts were posting crap that ticked them off, made a normal average post about the state of the forums and I get a 2 week ban on my main.

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