EVE Search - Forum ANGER on the increase

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Forum ANGER on the increase

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 [3] :: one page
Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Babel Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2010.07.28 12:20:00 - [61] 5. Herd-mentality. It's how fashions/bandwagons start. Aside from the fact that anyone saying something positive will be considered an 'uncool' internet spaceship game player fanboi/ette, it's SO much easier to write a whinepost and look cool/smart/ironic :) Perhaps genuine issues are on the rise ? Chances are though that even if they are, they gonna be swamped and amplified by sheep though. Would expect no less from a player demographic like Eve's. . All generalisations are false - Discuss.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.07.28 12:21:00 - [62] Originally by: Zalafas I played EQ (the original) back when Brad McQuaid was a dev there, and Abashi (forget his real name) was a community rep... You really have no idea how bad it can get. Thats a good point. but I think in EVE many players came here and stayed for so long because EVE was run so much better than other games, for so long. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Learol	Posted - 2010.07.28 12:30:00 - [63] Edited by: Learol on 28/07/2010 12:32:02 If only CCP would stop balancing fun in their risk-vs-reward equations :P *edit - [then again, having people mine because it's fun would probably crash the economy...]
ThisIsNotMyAlt	Posted - 2010.07.28 12:34:00 - [64] absoulutly agree with the op. the players are bored and angry people and should be replaced as soon as possible. they are hurting the game experience.
Ay'a	Posted - 2010.07.28 12:39:00 - [65] CCP you have just got to listen, the current safe level of trolls is 83% we just tested your forums and the level is infact 99% if one more troll trolls on the forum we are looking at a catosphoric chain reaction
knobber Jobbler	Posted - 2010.07.28 12:56:00 - [66] Originally by: Jennifer Fenring Who says no-one wants Incarna? There's no polls and CCP doesn't do any surveys but from what I've heard in my (highsec carebear) corp there's a lot more people who want to walk in stations than people who are even interested in fleet lag. As said before, 0.0 fleet people are just a small minority of EVE players. I don't say fleet lag isn't important but don't say no-one is interested in Incarna. I think you miss the point with this: Walking in stations = new feature, no added practical purpose to the game (personally I'd rather see visual ship customisation) other than a few feature. Fleet fights = long standing feature of PVP, plays a part in soveriegnty etc which does have several knock on effects that directly affect high sec. Also a feature of FW which although not integral to anything, lets not further break an already broken feature that could be quite good. I don't even take part in fleet fights and I can see lag should be fixed as a priority and all broken features should be fixed before adding any others. As a carebare, don't you care that some Epic mission arcs are still broken?
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.07.28 13:36:00 - [67] Originally by: Average Jack Originally by: Corozan Aspinall I think its pretty naive to suppose the CSM has any real input on development tbh. Make of that what you will .. Don't discount the dev blog that clearly defines what CCP is doing and with what resources. That's their call. Not yours or mine or anyone else's. It is if they want to keep me as a customer. If they think I'm willing to wait 18 months while they waste time with features that nobody wants, needs or asked for while the core game play is totally and utterly broken then they must have lost a few braincells in the last few months. There was a time when player opinion actually mattered to CCP - now the only thing that matters to them is to bait new players, leech cash from them for a few months and then release a new "dragon fleet" video to bait the next batch of noobs. It's obvious that fixing fleet lag wouldn't be high on their list when it comes to maximizing their income. That's why they have a PR/marketing-dude at the helm now. Its obvious that you dont read up on the issues that you complain about, therefore I hope you do leave, and no I do not want your stuff. This is clearly a signature.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.07.28 13:45:00 - [68] Originally by: Gladys Pank I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Or a clear sign that helpful people* like you are putting out the fire with gasoline. Even without stirring the pot yourself, using your personal 'feeling' for just how angry, sorry, how ANGRY the eternal forum ranters seem in any given week as a metric of general player satisfaction is one of the most idiotic ideas I've ever seen here (and in this forum that's really saying something.) *Forum censorship rules won't let me say what I actually mean, so feel free to translate "helpful people" for yourself.
Frug Omega Wing	Posted - 2010.07.28 13:57:00 - [69] People are obviously more upset than usual with CCP even though all CCP has done recently is tow their usual line more blatantly. I think you're mostly seeing older players finally get fed up with things, and new-ish players coming to that sad realization that so many bittervets already have. Fleet lag is only one area where CCP can say they're actually doing something to try to fix it, although even on that front things have gotten worse which directly ****es off the people who try to play with it. On every other front, things are the same old garbage. CCP will probably never change. Things may simmer after the most vocal people quit and the rest stop bothering to hope. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.07.28 14:24:00 - [70] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Gladys Pank I think its a clear sign CCP are making a mess of things at the moment. Or a clear sign that helpful people* like you are putting out the fire with gasoline. Even without stirring the pot yourself, using your personal 'feeling' for just how angry, sorry, how ANGRY the eternal forum ranters seem in any given week as a metric of general player satisfaction is one of the most idiotic ideas I've ever seen here (and in this forum that's really saying something.) *Forum censorship rules won't let me say what I actually mean, so feel free to translate "helpful people" for yourself. I was making an observation with no personal twist. The op is decidedly neutral in fact. You can include Zymurgist in that list of 'helpful people' as you state. Let me know what you think the responses to this thread suggest? Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.07.28 14:27:00 - [71] Originally by: Cipher Jones It is if they want to keep me as a customer. If they think I'm willing to wait 18 months while they waste time with features that nobody wants, needs or asked for while the core game play is totally and utterly broken then they must have lost a few braincells in the last few months. There was a time when player opinion actually mattered to CCP - now the only thing that matters to them is to bait new players, leech cash from them for a few months and then release a new "dragon fleet" video to bait the next batch of noobs. It's obvious that fixing fleet lag wouldn't be high on their list when it comes to maximizing their income. That's why they have a PR/marketing-dude at the helm now. Its obvious that you dont read up on the issues that you complain about, therefore I hope you do leave, and no I do not want your stuff. However I will be happy to have your stuff.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.07.28 15:05:00 - [72] Originally by: Gladys Pank Which by the way has over 2400 unique posters. ooOOoo, you sure can't argue when less than 0.8% of the population speaks! I've been here for years and one constant over those years has been that people micturate and moan on the forums. Always. Always have. Always will. New problems appear, people wail that Eve is DYING!, that CCP are stoopid/evil/scared/greedy/cannibals/whatever and then the problems get resolved allowing that segment of forum denizens to move on to EVE IS DYING/CCP IS CTHULU because of the next problem-of-the-month. If, for some twisted reason you just need to know whether other people are angry so you can decide how you should feel then pay attention to subscription numbers, pay attention to player counts but don't pay too much attention to the less than one percent who pull down their pants and "submit" a rantpost on the forum. None of which, of course, justifies narcissistic rabble rousing posts about "Everyone else is angry! You should be angry too!" I'm not angry. I enjoy the game. I look back at the spittle flecked rants from last year and the year before and the year before that and the year before that... and I laugh at "forum ANGER" trolling from anti-Cassandras like you.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.07.28 15:16:00 - [73] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Gladys Pank Which by the way has over 2400 unique posters. ooOOoo, you sure can't argue when less than 0.8% of the population speaks! I've been here for years and one constant over those years has been that people micturate and moan on the forums. Always. Always have. Always will. New problems appear, people wail that Eve is DYING!, that CCP are stoopid/evil/scared/greedy/cannibals/whatever and then the problems get resolved allowing that segment of forum denizens to move on to EVE IS DYING/CCP IS CTHULU because of the next problem-of-the-month. If, for some twisted reason you just need to know whether other people are angry so you can decide how you should feel then pay attention to subscription numbers, pay attention to player counts but don't pay too much attention to the less than one percent who pull down their pants and "submit" a rantpost on the forum. None of which, of course, justifies narcissistic rabble rousing posts about "Everyone else is angry! You should be angry too!" I'm not angry. I enjoy the game. I look back at the spittle flecked rants from last year and the year before and the year before that and the year before that... and I laugh at "forum ANGER" trolling from anti-Cassandras like you. You seem angry. I never asked how to feel and I certainly don't presume to tell others to be angry about anything. I was just observing and trying to collate information. There are plenty of people that don't voice their interests on the forums but that does not mean you should dismiss those that do speak out. Thank you for not being able to be subjective on the original topic. Resorting to calling people trolls and anti-cassandras (lol). Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist
Trauli	Posted - 2010.07.28 15:36:00 - [74] Edited by: Trauli on 28/07/2010 15:43:27 Sup high-sec bears. I have a very imporant ANNOUCEMENT to make. If you think you have an opinion that matters, you are wrong. You are not part what has driven EvE to be what is today. If you want an example to know why this is take a look at every single trailer the CCP marketing department has put out to date. Is it of people shooting NPCs in missions? No. Is it of people mining? Nope. Is is of people doing things with POS? Again, it is not. Why not? BECAUSE THESE ACTIVITIES ARE BORING AS SIN AND NOBODY THAT IS NOT COMPLETELY **ED IN RL (<- THATS YOU BTW) CHOOSES TO PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE OF THEM. The fact is what drives people to EvE is the potential for pvp in a single persistant universe and all the fasinating player politics that goes with it. So while your missions may still be working as normal, anyone who partipates in the only part of the game that is truely interesting knows that their game is currently banjaxed. So what you gonna say about that huh. This brings an end to my ANNOUNCEMENT Thanks.
Squat Hardpeck State Protectorate	Posted - 2010.07.28 15:37:00 - [75] I just think its summer and the kids have nothing better to do than whine. They see some Dev Blog or CSM Meeting Minutes and the sky is falling, farmers are killing their cattle, and the apocalypse is coming. People need to chill the **** out.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.07.28 15:46:00 - [76] Originally by: Gladys Pank You seem angry. Yeah and apparently so do the other forum posters, but I'm not. I'd suggest that everyone seeming angry to you has more to do with you than with everyone else. Originally by: Gladys Pank Thank you for not being able to be subjective on the original topic. Resorting to calling people trolls and anti-cassandras (lol). Not being able to be subjective? I don't think that word means what you think it means. I was completely subjective, my entire post from "I've been here..." through "I look back..." to the ultimate "I laugh at you" is an exercise in subjective analysis. As to trolls and anti-Cassandra, if the shoe fits Gladys...
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.07.28 15:51:00 - [77] Originally by: Trauli Why not? BECAUSE THESE ACTIVITIES ARE BORING AS SIN AND NOBODY THAT IS NOT COMPLETELY **ED IN RL (<- THATS YOU BTW) CHOOSES TO PLAY THE GAME BECAUSE OF THEM. The fact is what drives people to EvE is the potential for pvp in a single persistant universe Translation: Everyone should like what I like otherwise there is something wrong with them (and so screw them!) Is Trauli pronounced "Troll-y"?
Saelie	Posted - 2010.07.28 15:55:00 - [78] Originally by: Trauli Nerd rage Be glad there are bears, mister big bad PvPer. Without bears, you wouldn't have any meta, T2, faction, or officer mods (Since bears farm and invent them), any T2 or T3 ships (Bears invent them), any ships at all even (Bears build them and mine the resources for them), no ammo (Bears build it), and hardly enough money to buy even T1 weapons for your rookie ship (Since bears make that ISK; not that you'd have any ammo for them anyway). You would have no null-sec, since you'd have no POS's (Bears build and fuel them) or any system sov (Bears build, transport, and deploy the sov-related modules). In that sense, the opinion of the high-sec bears and their first cousins, the null-sec bears hiding under sov, are just as if not more important to this game than you are, making their opinions equally valid if not more.
Trauli	Posted - 2010.07.28 16:00:00 - [79] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Is Trauli pronounced "Troll-y"? Yes
Madorik	Posted - 2010.07.28 16:27:00 - [80] Some of you mention trolling, and i read that word quite often on those forums, most of the time when people post their opinion. I didn't know what trolling was so i checked on wiki and in the forum rules. "Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not contribute to the sense of community we want for our forums." Angering, insulting and disruptive. Yet the word trolling is very commonly used as a reply to denounce the OP because he simply shares his opinions. By claiming the OP is trolling most people violate these rules : 4.Be respectful of others at all times. 20.Post constructively. 24.Off-topic posting is not allowed. Instead of simply ignoring a post that you don't agree with, people prefer to bash, which leads to unnecessary conflicts. The maturity level on the forums is quite low when you look a the average age of the players. My advice, spend less time on the forums, don't reply to posts you don't agree with, or reply politely with arguments.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.07.28 18:04:00 - [81] so its not so much trolling as the natural result of a bunch of oversensitive attention ***s appearing all in one place at the same time? Who'da thunk it. Seriously though the problem i have with the EVE NEEDS TO BE FIXED NAO!! crowd is that while they do have genuine points its getting submerged in a wave of vitriol, sarcasm and pointless forum anger. Ok, we get that you're angry and people have made well reasoned and informative posts laying out why but do you have to ** up the forums by vomiting pointless crap into every thread that even breathes CCPs name. It certainly doesnt make me think about the valid points some of you have made, more like 'god the self absorbed manchildren wont shut up again'. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Kidain Gallente Rule of Five	Posted - 2010.07.28 21:26:00 - [82] Originally by: Trauli Edited by: Trauli on 28/07/2010 15:43:27 Sup high-sec bears. I have a very imporant ANNOUCEMENT to make. The fact is what drives people to EvE is the potential for pvp in a single persistant universe and all the fasinating player politics that goes with it. So while your missions may still be working as normal, anyone who partipates in the only part of the game that is truely interesting knows that their game is currently banjaxed. So what you gonna say about that huh. That you are a self centre, egotistical **, born from the same "I want it NOW!" set of bratish kids that plague modern society as we know it? Grow up all and stop throwing your toys out of the pram. If not ** off and go and play somewhere else. You must still love the game because you are whining about it. Which means you want to stay in your heart of hearts, but you also want them to pander to your whims because your teacher/mum/dad/police/society does just that eh? -------------------------------------- In an infinite universe, the one thing sentient life cannot afford to have is a sense of proportion. - Douglas Adams
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.07.28 21:34:00 - [83] Originally by: Darek Castigatus ...while they do have genuine points its getting submerged in a wave of vitriol, sarcasm and pointless forum anger.... I have considered making a thoroughly researched "state of eve, as various players see it" thread pointing CCP to (obviously from my opinion) worthy posts that make genuinely useful suggestions. And I want to be clear here, not just ones that support my personal interests, my overall interest is seeing Eve succeed in every area it currently exists and wishes to expand (so epic battles AND Incarna for two obvious examples). The work that would have to go into it though is quite scary. Instead I hoped to appeal to people that are informed on the issues and are well read. Understandably not everyone has the time to be informed on salient points and worthy ideas. I hoped to collate these but backtracking and linking them all is just too much; for now... Signature locked for inappropriate image. Zymurgist

Pages: 1 2 [3] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.