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Tyriel Nathos
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:03:00 -
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Forgive me, for I'm pretty loathe to search through the whole of the internet, but most of the pages I have seen so far seem to simply accept that nothing can travel faster than light without further explaining it. Could someone then tell me - why can't anything travel faster than light?
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Tyriel Nathos
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:03:00 -
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Forgive me, for I'm pretty loathe to search through the whole of the internet, but most of the pages I have seen so far seem to simply accept that nothing can travel faster than light without further explaining it. Could someone then tell me - why can't anything travel faster than light?
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:13:00 -
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E=MC^2
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Directive
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:13:00 -
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E=MC^2
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 20/12/2004 15:26:08 This would probably take at least a week to answer... some of the best scientists have studied these things for ages, and there are only 2 ppl that are said to completely understand the stuff afaik. I think both are dead btw, not sure about the 2nd one...
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 20/12/2004 15:26:08 This would probably take at least a week to answer... some of the best scientists have studied these things for ages, and there are only 2 ppl that are said to completely understand the stuff afaik. I think both are dead btw, not sure about the 2nd one...
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 20/12/2004 15:22:45
Originally by: Directive E=MC^2
Doesn't say much unless you specify what E, M and C is...
E = Energy m = Mass c = Speed of light
c=sqrt(E/m) <- This is what you mean I suppose? I'm not convinced that this is evidence though, it could be interpretated in different ways. I alternate between accepting it as evidence and not, and I don't think it really is evidence, even if E=mc^2 is true in all cases.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 20/12/2004 15:22:45
Originally by: Directive E=MC^2
Doesn't say much unless you specify what E, M and C is...
E = Energy m = Mass c = Speed of light
c=sqrt(E/m) <- This is what you mean I suppose? I'm not convinced that this is evidence though, it could be interpretated in different ways. I alternate between accepting it as evidence and not, and I don't think it really is evidence, even if E=mc^2 is true in all cases.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:21:00 -
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No.
Darkness is always faster.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:21:00 -
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No.
Darkness is always faster.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation No.
Darkness is always faster.
Darkness is the absence of light and does therefore not have a speed.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation No.
Darkness is always faster.
Darkness is the absence of light and does therefore not have a speed.
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Tyriel Nathos
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:31:00 -
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E=MC^2 only proves that the speed of light is constant, not that it's the fastest thing in the world.
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Tyriel Nathos
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:31:00 -
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E=MC^2 only proves that the speed of light is constant, not that it's the fastest thing in the world.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tyriel Nathos E=MC^2 only proves that the speed of light is constant, not that it's the fastest thing in the world.
Not really, first you have to prove that the relationship between E and m is constant.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tyriel Nathos E=MC^2 only proves that the speed of light is constant, not that it's the fastest thing in the world.
Not really, first you have to prove that the relationship between E and m is constant.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Darkness is the absence of light and does therefore not have a speed.
Let me buy you a sense of humour
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Darkness is the absence of light and does therefore not have a speed.
Let me buy you a sense of humour
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 20/12/2004 15:43:22
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Scorpyn
Darkness is the absence of light and does therefore not have a speed.
Let me buy you a sense of humour
Nah, no need, I have some here... somewhere... hmm... where did I put it? ... ...anyway, as I was saying... where was I? Damn forgot the memory pills what was I talking about?
...and where are those pills... hmmm... what pills?
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 20/12/2004 15:43:22
Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Scorpyn
Darkness is the absence of light and does therefore not have a speed.
Let me buy you a sense of humour
Nah, no need, I have some here... somewhere... hmm... where did I put it? ... ...anyway, as I was saying... where was I? Damn forgot the memory pills what was I talking about?
...and where are those pills... hmmm... what pills?
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Avon
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 20/12/2004 15:58:04 Here we go again. I will try and get into this topic without posting lots of funky formulae, mostly because they never look right on forums.
Nothing can travel faster than light...
but...
In a straight race across a large distance involving gravity wells, neutrinos will beat photons.
There are lots of other circumstances when the speed of light is 'broken', but to be fair, so are the rules. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Avon
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Posted - 2004.12.20 15:57:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 20/12/2004 15:58:04 Here we go again. I will try and get into this topic without posting lots of funky formulae, mostly because they never look right on forums.
Nothing can travel faster than light...
but...
In a straight race across a large distance involving gravity wells, neutrinos will beat photons.
There are lots of other circumstances when the speed of light is 'broken', but to be fair, so are the rules. ______________________________________________
Never argue with idiots. They will just drag it down to their level, and then beat you through experience. |
Ghost Red
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Posted - 2004.12.20 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ghost Red on 20/12/2004 16:03:09
Originally by: Avon
Nothing can travel faster than light...
you haven't seen the chavs at the bottom of my road, and their supped-up GTi. Now thats fast, especially when they have the rozzers after them. --------------------------------------------
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Ghost Red
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Posted - 2004.12.20 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ghost Red on 20/12/2004 16:03:09
Originally by: Avon
Nothing can travel faster than light...
you haven't seen the chavs at the bottom of my road, and their supped-up GTi. Now thats fast, especially when they have the rozzers after them. --------------------------------------------
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.12.20 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: BoBoZoBo on 20/12/2004 20:12:51 E=MC2
The #1 limiting factor for the speed limit is....mass
The more mass you have, the more energy you need to accelrate. This is exponential and becomes so high at speeds close to that of light, that there is not enough energy in the universe to accelerate anything with any mass to the speed of light.
Photons...and other similar particles that travel at "c" have no mass and therefor CAN travel the speed of light, eveything else in the universe has mass, and therefore cannot attain "c".
That is it in a nutshell as it pertains to physics as we kow it.
There are only 2 solutions to this,; 1) Reduce the mass of the object moving to 0 2) Increase the total energy in the universe
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BoBoZoBo
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Posted - 2004.12.20 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: BoBoZoBo on 20/12/2004 20:12:51 E=MC2
The #1 limiting factor for the speed limit is....mass
The more mass you have, the more energy you need to accelrate. This is exponential and becomes so high at speeds close to that of light, that there is not enough energy in the universe to accelerate anything with any mass to the speed of light.
Photons...and other similar particles that travel at "c" have no mass and therefor CAN travel the speed of light, eveything else in the universe has mass, and therefore cannot attain "c".
That is it in a nutshell as it pertains to physics as we kow it.
There are only 2 solutions to this,; 1) Reduce the mass of the object moving to 0 2) Increase the total energy in the universe
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TauTut
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Posted - 2004.12.20 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Red Edited by: Ghost Red on 20/12/2004 16:03:09
Originally by: Avon
Nothing can travel faster than light...
you haven't seen the chavs at the bottom of my road, and their supped-up GTi. Now thats fast, especially when they have the rozzers after them.
-TT
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TauTut
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Posted - 2004.12.20 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Ghost Red Edited by: Ghost Red on 20/12/2004 16:03:09
Originally by: Avon
Nothing can travel faster than light...
you haven't seen the chavs at the bottom of my road, and their supped-up GTi. Now thats fast, especially when they have the rozzers after them.
-TT
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Elita
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Posted - 2004.12.20 20:35:00 -
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The Ambiguous Puzuma can travel faster...
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke |
Elita
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Posted - 2004.12.20 20:35:00 -
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The Ambiguous Puzuma can travel faster...
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke |
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