The Noctis frowns upon you

Marauders say hello.

Marauders say hello.

Collecting salvage is a separate profession from mission running. This is intentional.

I'm not talking about salvaging wrecks, I'm talking about looting cargo holds... something that *shouldn't* require a special ship to pull off without annoyance.

I'm not talking about salvaging wrecks, I'm talking about looting cargo holds... something that *shouldn't* require a special ship to pull off without annoyance.

Otherwise, deal with the way CCP intended looting to be done.

No. You should have to give up DPS to speed up your looting. This is a purely self-serving idea to allow you to speed up your PVE without sacrificing anything.

No. It's simply an effort to improve gameplay. You remember, fun?

In every other game since the dawn of man it works like this:

A) Kill bad guy.
B) Collect shiney.

Only in EVE can they find a way to make that model a tedious choice.

This may be confusing for you since you've clearly been here a while, but tedium and complexity for complexity's sake are sometimes good game design, but sometimes they're just not.

No. It's simply an effort to improve gameplay. You remember, fun?

In every other game since the dawn of man it works like this:

A) Kill bad guy.
B) Collect shiney.

Only in EVE can they find a way to make that model a tedious choice.

No. It's simply an effort to improve gameplay. You remember, fun?

In every other game since the dawn of man it works like this:

A) Kill bad guy.
B) Collect shiney.

Only in EVE can they find a way to make that model a tedious choice.

This may be confusing for you since you've clearly been here a while, but tedium and complexity for complexity's sake are sometimes good game design, but sometimes they're just not.

In this case the certainly are. I mean why bother having having tractor beams at all, why not just have the loot teleport into your cargo hold. In fact why not just have it appear in your hangar.

Looting has fully intended mechanics both for pvp (agresison mechanics) and pve (salvaging miniproffession). If you kill a guy in pvp he has the chance of getting his stuff back (which he wouldn't if everyone had auto tractor beams) and the delay it may take you to get to a wreck to loot it increases the time he has to come back and kick your ass. Also theft of loot is an integral part eve pvp and auto tractor beams would remove this almost entirely. Similarly the ability to loot other peoples wrecks they couldn't be bothered to pick up is an entire mini profession in itself which would also be removed by auto tractor beams. So basically you want to nerf people getting thier loot back in pvp (or taking revenge), people salvaging others wrecks (extremely nooby friendly) and theft (core eve game play) all so you don't need to fit a tractor beam or fly a faster ship?

New players likely don't have access to significant Corp connections (they're told not to trust ANYONE in fact), let alone T2 battleships, and they certainly don't PVP. The average new player in Eve will probably spend the first few months of their career soloing missions while they figure out what on earth is going on. They also happen to be broke, which means leaving loot on the battlefield feels unwise. What the new player is left with, then, is spending 20-30 mins after every battle tooling around looting their ships... which is actually the opposite of fun.

I know you eve uni guys leave a lot of wrecks behind, but seriously, most of it isn't worth looting.

Within a week of starting Eve, I was in a player corp with some other noobs. Within a month we'd figured out tractors and salvagers, and I was flying a salvage catalyst with four of each.

I quite often advise new players to build a destroyer--I recommend the cat for its fitting options--for salvage. Even going solo, it's a lot faster for you to simply bookmark a wreck in each room and return with a dedicated salvage ship once the deadspace has closed than it would be with the feature you're asking for.

I think that what the game needs is a civilian tractor beam (maybe 5 or 8km range) and a brief lesson on using tractors for salvage operations. From there, let the noobs figure it out for themselves. You don't get good at Eve by following cookie-cutter plans. You do it by learning early to innovate.