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Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:12:00 - [1] Edited by: Eventy One on 10/08/2010 19:12:24 CCP Zulu has said: Well, really, we don't like items having "special status" in the game. Fine. Please let NCP's drop PLEX's Let players construct them. Otherwise they have special status.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:14:00 - [2] except they dont, they now use the same code as any other item for being transported or stored in a hanger. Stop trying to weasel around the fact you want something you arent willing to pay for. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Darek Castigatus except they dont, they now use the same code as any other item for being transported or stored in a hanger. Stop trying to weasel around the fact you want something you arent willing to pay for. Stop trolling.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:16:00 - [4] Edited by: Stick Cult on 10/08/2010 19:16:31 If rats drop PLEX's, then they will have special status. Right now, they have as little special status as is possible for an item you redeem for gametime. No. edit: OH GOD I'VE BEEN POASTING IN YOUR THREADS ALL MORNING Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Atticus Fynch Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Darek Castigatus except they dont, they now use the same code as any other item for being transported or stored in a hanger. So they say. Has anyone picked up a plex from loot yet?
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Darek Castigatus except they dont, they now use the same code as any other item for being transported or stored in a hanger. Stop trying to weasel around the fact you want something you arent willing to pay for. Stop trolling. I'm not, I'm 100% serious http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Darek Castigatus Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Darek Castigatus except they dont, they now use the same code as any other item for being transported or stored in a hanger. Stop trying to weasel around the fact you want something you arent willing to pay for. Stop trolling. I'm not, I'm 100% serious I've never owned a PLEX; use one; bought one. I'm not trying to get around anything. But .. CCP says they aren't special. Fine, why can't players obtain them due to lucky NPC drops? Some pretty expensive things drop all the time?
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:24:00 - [8] Edited by: Darek Castigatus on 10/08/2010 19:26:30 Originally by: Eventy One I've never owned a PLEX; use one; bought one. I'm not trying to get around anything. But .. CCP says they aren't special. Fine, why can't players obtain them due to lucky NPC drops? Some pretty expensive things drop all the time? Because CCP, which let us not forget is a for profit business not a support system for EVE, decided that giving free game time away in an activity it recieves no additional revenue for players peforming wouldnt help them make money. Start paying CCP for the right to rat then I might agree with you. Also what stick cult said in the post below. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Darek Castigatus Originally by: Eventy One Originally by: Darek Castigatus except they dont, they now use the same code as any other item for being transported or stored in a hanger. Stop trying to weasel around the fact you want something you arent willing to pay for. Stop trolling. I'm not, I'm 100% serious I've never owned a PLEX; use one; bought one. I'm not trying to get around anything. But .. CCP says they aren't special. Fine, why can't players obtain them due to lucky NPC drops? Some pretty expensive things drop all the time? Why can't tech 2 BPCs drop from rats too? Why can't ships from from rats? Why can't PI goods drop from rats? Why can't datacores drop from rats? Why can't moon goo drop from rats? Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
AccesiViale Gallente The Artful Dodgers	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:45:00 - [10] Originally by: Darek Castigatus except they dont, they now use the same code as any other item for being transported or stored in a hanger. Stop trying to weasel around the fact you want something you arent willing to pay for. Isn't it exactly what CCP is doing? they want the money but dont want to have to provide the service the money was given to them for. The sky was blue but there was no god.
Lothris Andastar	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:47:00 - [11] Why don't Titans frop from rats?
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:50:00 - [12] I ran worlds collide 4 and a rat dropped a 300m isk item and i bought a plex with it. Isn't freedom wonderful? This is clearly a signature.
Taxesarebad	Posted - 2010.08.10 19:57:00 - [13] too hard to balance implementing it, nullsec only? alliances will farm the hell out of it. lowsec? same alliance blobfest highsec plexes? would be farmed to death mission? either insanely low drop rate, or it would be to common. all would be stupid. it could work if a balance was made.
Telvani	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:01:00 - [14] on the 1% chance that this isnt a troll and someone this stupid was actually successfully managed to fill out the necessary details to create an eve online account and navigate the forums to create this thread, wait better make thats 0.5% NPC's drop plex's every day A-type hardener --> 300m --> plex vindi BPC ---> 900m ---> 3 plex cyn BPC ---> 300m ---> plex A plex is the ingame traded value that the population of eve attribute to the real world service of 30 days of subscription to eve online. No more no less. for the 199 alternate worlds where this was just a troll, 4/10 for the bait.
Hari Markkus Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:04:00 - [15] t2 construction components don't drop from rats either. Nor do t1 big guns. As I understand it the only stuff that drops from rats are the stuff that is in their loot table. So, it would seem, that Ms. Eleventy One has her wish already PLEXes do not have special status. Lucky Ms. Eleventy One.
AccesiViale Gallente The Artful Dodgers	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:07:00 - [16] While I don't think plex should be something that drops easily why not make it a possibility for some of the tougher NPCs. Some drop loot worth months of game time in isk value so whats the difference if you get plex. My favorite part is that CCP can be bothered to change the mechanic and take your money in the hopes that they will not have to provide any service in return but they cannot be bothered to truthfully describe how plex works on their office support kb article. Linkage This link is provided on the account section if you were to click buy plex and then wanted an explanation of what it is and how to use it. The wiki article is also provided but is contradictory and the recent changes have been simply tacked on to the very bottom of the page. The sky was blue but there was no god.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:13:00 - [17] Originally by: AccesiViale Edited by: AccesiViale on 10/08/2010 20:08:38 While I don't think plex should be something that drops easily why not make it a possibility for some of the tougher NPCs. Some drop loot worth months of game time in isk value so whats the difference if you get plex. My favorite part is that CCP can be bothered to change the mechanic and take your money in the hopes that they will not have to provide any service in return but they cannot be bothered to truthfully describe how plex works on their official support kb article. Linkage This link is provided on the account section if you were to click buy plex and then wanted an explanation of what it is and how to use it while on the same page you fill in you're CC info. The wiki article is also provided but is contradictory and the recent changes have been simply tacked on to the very bottom of the page. CCP doesn't take your money. If you're a big enough **** to undock with plex, and don't accept the risks, then you deserve it. I don't understand your problem with that support article. Originally by:** CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
OneTimeAt BannedSpank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:14:00 - [18] PLEX are issued to capsuleers, all those NPC rats are just regular scrub pilots who are not eligible for capsuleer licenses so it's unrealistic for them to drop them. Also derp to u OP. ~ One million alts cant be wrong.
AccesiViale Gallente The Artful Dodgers	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: AccesiViale Edited by: AccesiViale on 10/08/2010 20:08:38 While I don't think plex should be something that drops easily why not make it a possibility for some of the tougher NPCs. Some drop loot worth months of game time in isk value so whats the difference if you get plex. My favorite part is that CCP can be bothered to change the mechanic and take your money in the hopes that they will not have to provide any service in return but they cannot be bothered to truthfully describe how plex works on their official support kb article. Linkage This link is provided on the account section if you were to click buy plex and then wanted an explanation of what it is and how to use it while on the same page you fill in you're CC info. The wiki article is also provided but is contradictory and the recent changes have been simply tacked on to the very bottom of the page. CCP doesn't take your money. If you're a big enough ****** to undock with plex, and don't accept the risks, then you deserve it. I don't understand your problem with that support article. It states they cannot be moved out of a station and must be traded in place. This would lead one to think they cannot be destroyed. Not a huge gripe but if they can change a game mechanic they can update the page advertising what they are selling. The sky was blue but there was no god.
LittleTerror Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Cipher Jones I ran worlds collide 4 and a rat dropped a 300m isk item and i bought a plex with it. Isn't freedom wonderful?
AccesiViale Gallente The Artful Dodgers	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:22:00 - [21] Edited by: AccesiViale on 10/08/2010 20:24:34 Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank PLEX are issued to capsuleers, all those NPC rats are just regular scrub pilots who are not eligible for capsuleer licenses so it's unrealistic for them to drop them. Also derp to u OP. Good point. I changed my mind they should not be able to NPC drop. How often does that happen in forums. LOL Now I think they should ALWAYS drop when the ship carrying them pops so ccp will have to provide the service to someone at some point and also to promote the carnage that will follow as people kill people simply to directly steal gametime. Imagine the chain of death for the 73 plex dropped in jita. The can with plex would be so toxic, anybody who touched it would die, only to be scooped again and for that person to die. Imagine how much isk we could get circulating over all the lost material and ships. This would be great for industry. The sky was blue but there was no god.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:25:00 - [22] Originally by: AccesiViale Originally by: OneTimeAt BannedSpank PLEX are issued to capsuleers, all those NPC rats are just regular scrub pilots who are not eligible for capsuleer licenses so it's unrealistic for them to drop them. Also derp to u OP. Good point. I changed my mind they should not be able to NPC drop. How often does that happen in forums. LOL Now I think they should ALWAYS drop when the ship carrying them pops so ccp will have to provide the service to someone at some point and also to promote the carnage that will follow as people kill people simply to directly steal gametime. But then plex will be special items! But why? Once the GTC is converted to plex, you accept the risk that it could be destroyed and CCP won't have to give you gametime. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
w0rmy Destructive Influence	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:25:00 - [23] Give away free stuff?? CCP? This has to be a troll thread!! Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
Aerilis Gallente Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:32:00 - [24] Oh god this thread is so terrible. The last thing we need is more unimportant squabble about this very serious PLEX issue. Read the other thread and make sure you understand the issue at hand before posting more on this matter please. That goes for people on both sides of the argument. Including you OP.
Berikath	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 10/08/2010 19:12:24 CCP Zulu has said: Well, really, we don't like items having "special status" in the game. Fine. Please let NCP's drop PLEX's Let players construct them. Otherwise they have special status. Actually, I am in favor of this. I wanna say...... .01% chance of drop from officers/highest-end complex overseers? Add 0s as necessary to make the drop rate 1 every day or two. There- no special status for any items, and it costs CCP less than they probably spend on paper ;) I mean, they'd need to have it go on for like 4 months for them to break even on how much they made from that idiot in jita ;)
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:35:00 - [26] Originally by: Berikath Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 10/08/2010 19:12:24 CCP Zulu has said: Well, really, we don't like items having "special status" in the game. Fine. Please let NCP's drop PLEX's Let players construct them. Otherwise they have special status. Actually, I am in favor of this. I wanna say...... .01% chance of drop from officers/highest-end complex overseers? Add 0s as necessary to make the drop rate 1 every day or two. There- no special status for any items, and it costs CCP less than they probably spend on paper ;) I mean, they'd need to have it go on for like 4 months for them to break even on how much they made from that idiot in jita ;) HOW IS THIS NO SPECIAL STATUS?! Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Berikath	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Stick Cult HOW IS THIS NO SPECIAL STATUS?! How is this English?
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:40:00 - [28] Originally by: Berikath Originally by: Stick Cult HOW IS THIS NO SPECIAL STATUS?! How is this English? THIS IS ENGRISH! Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
AccesiViale Gallente The Artful Dodgers	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:43:00 - [29] this is sparta ...sorry had to The sky was blue but there was no god.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:43:00 - [30] Originally by: AccesiViale this is sparta ...sorry had to MADNESS?! Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Berikath	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:49:00 - [31] Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: AccesiViale this is sparta ...sorry had to MADNESS?! before the beginning. You put the end
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:50:00 - [32] Originally by: Berikath Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: AccesiViale this is sparta ...sorry had to MADNESS?! before the beginning. You put the end engrish? Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Takseen	Posted - 2010.08.10 20:55:00 - [33] Originally by: Eventy One Edited by: Eventy One on 10/08/2010 19:12:24 CCP Zulu has said: Well, really, we don't like items having "special status" in the game. Fine. Please let NCP's drop PLEX's Let players construct them. Otherwise they have special status. Rigs don't drop off NPCs either. Special status wooooo!
AccesiViale Gallente The Artful Dodgers	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:03:00 - [34] Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: Berikath Originally by: Stick Cult Originally by: AccesiViale this is sparta ...sorry had to MADNESS?! before the beginning. You put the end engrish? I believe that's a stealth joke. Do you see what he did there? Unless you're simply trying to setup the quote again. At this point the moment has quite past. My forum skills lack polish but I'll surely take another look <joke>in 18 months</joke> The sky was blue but there was no god.
Roosterton	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:09:00 - [35] Well, 0.0 Officers must be capsuleers. I mean, each one has died 100's of times, yet they are still alive. Since we know they're capsuleers, I wouldn't mind a really small chance of PLEX dropping from just them. Though really, I'd rather get a 20b cap recharger.
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:15:00 - [36] All items are special. I <3 my items. Without my items I am nothing. Without me, my items are nothing. - It's not "Play through a pre-set story, become stronger, do endgame". Gameplay is open ended, and you make your own story. Unless you're too afraid of 'pvp grief' to do anything relevant
Taedrin Gallente White Haven Corp	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:33:00 - [37] IMO, in an ideal world where CCP doesn't have to care about money, CCP has unlimited developer time and everybody is happy... (Well, such a world is impossible, but this is just for the sake of argument) CCP should have PLEX drop from NPCs in a quantity equal (or less than) the amount destroyed by player actions. ---------- Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident" Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
Stick Cult Unspoken Autonomy.	Posted - 2010.08.10 21:38:00 - [38] Originally by: Taedrin IMO, in an ideal world where CCP doesn't have to care about money, CCP has unlimited developer time and everybody is happy... (Well, such a world is impossible, but this is just for the sake of argument) CCP should have PLEX drop from NPCs in a quantity equal (or less than) the amount destroyed by player actions. In that world, no one would have to pay for subscriptions anyway. Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:12:00 - [39] Originally by: Eventy One I've never owned a PLEX; use one; bought one. I'm not trying to get around anything. But .. CCP says they aren't special. Fine, why can't players obtain them due to lucky NPC drops? Some pretty expensive things drop all the time? Sigh. Please show me all the T2 modules that NPC have dropped for you, all the BPO they have dropped and so on. There are plenty of items that players can't build in game but that can be moved around and lost through combat. So, in that regars, PLEX have no special status.
Thea Arsoniztik Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.08.10 22:40:00 - [40] Originally by: Venkul Mul Originally by: Eventy One I've never owned a PLEX; use one; bought one. I'm not trying to get around anything. But .. CCP says they aren't special. Fine, why can't players obtain them due to lucky NPC drops? Some pretty expensive things drop all the time? Sigh. Please show me all the T2 modules that NPC have dropped for you, all the BPO they have dropped and so on. There are plenty of items that players can't build in game but that can be moved around and lost through combat. So, in that regars, PLEX have no special status. /thread
alittlebirdy	Posted - 2010.08.10 23:56:00 - [41] OP is stupid. Show me a t2 item from a rat... Show me a bpo Show me a normal bpc Show me 95% of the skillbooks droping from a rat If you don't like eve, you know you can stop paying ;) and GTFO.
MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.11 00:04:00 - [42] Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 11/08/2010 00:04:48 Originally by: alittlebirdy If you don't like eve, you know you can stop paying ;) and GTFO. I'll go ahead and answer that for the OP... He's already cancelled all 5 of his accounts but since they were prepaid 1-year subscriptions he's just waiting for time to run out. It's the new FOTM excuse . Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:23:00 - [43] Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2 Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 11/08/2010 00:04:48 Originally by: alittlebirdy If you don't like eve, you know you can stop paying ;) and GTFO. I'll go ahead and answer that for the OP... He's already cancelled all 5 of his accounts but since they were prepaid 1-year subscriptions he's just waiting for time to run out. It's the new FOTM excuse . No op is still here, and unconvinced PLEX's shouldn't be dropped by NPCs. So they drop items worth 1 month play time? Let them drop plex's then? The issues isn't that CCP reserves the right for NPC's NOT to drop some things, for that completely misses the point. A T2 BPO does not represent game time directly. A PLEX does. When a plex is destroyed, CCP has received money for a service they don't provide. If a PLEX drops from an NCP (say one assigned to be a courier) CCP still provides the service.
OneTimeAt BannedSpank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.08.11 01:36:00 - [44] This thread deserves a special locked status. ~ One million alts cant be wrong.

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MatrixSkye Mk2 Minmatar	Posted - 2010.08.11 02:21:00 - [46] Originally by: Eventy One So they drop items worth 1 month play time? Let them drop plex's then? The issues isn't that CCP reserves the right for NPC's NOT to drop some things, for that completely misses the point. One of these reduces CCP's revenue. The other scenario doesn't. I'll let you figure out which does what. Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today!
Trauli	Posted - 2010.08.11 04:28:00 - [47] OP, i don't think you understand how the PLEX system works for CCP. The only reason you can buy gametime with ISK is because somebody FIRST needs to buy that gametime with real life money. So while you can 'play for free' somebody else has effectively bought the time for you and it exchanged it for ingame currency. It's a very smart business model. Introducing dropable PLEX by NPCs completely destroys this business model.
DonHel Gallente Kentucky Fried Capsuleer	Posted - 2010.08.11 04:42:00 - [48] why don't Asian hookers drop from rats - doh, i have to pay for them :(
Ryhss Caldari Ominous Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.08.11 07:00:00 - [49] Originally by: Taxesarebad too hard to balance implementing it, nullsec only? alliances will farm the hell out of it. lowsec? same alliance blobfest highsec plexes? would be farmed to death mission? either insanely low drop rate, or it would be to common. all would be stupid. it could work if a balance was made. I concur with this statement. Originally by: aratillion LEGEN.... Wait for it DARY!
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.08.11 10:54:00 - [50] Those poor station containers. They are still stuck with their "special" status. -- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space
Xtreem Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.11 11:09:00 - [51] only way this would work is if CCP ran a db search at the end of each month on plex destroyed by players in that month, took 25% of that amount and added it to offier npc drops. that way ccp is not giving away money and still even makes some on the other 25% that were destroyed that are not added as drops.

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Jack Gilligan Caldari 1st Cavalry Division Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.08.11 11:52:00 - [53] Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 11/08/2010 11:55:34 Why not take the plex items that get destroyed, keep a count of them, and put them in the loot tables for very rare drops from faction NPC's? If you do it that way, the only plex codes that are dropping are ones that were paid for anyway and it would cost CCP nothing. It could run as a script during downtime, take yesterday's plex items that got lost in a death and add that number to the loot table.
Xtreem Gallente DEATHFUNK Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.08.11 12:06:00 - [54] Originally by: Jack Gilligan Edited by: Jack Gilligan on 11/08/2010 11:55:34 Why not take the plex items that get destroyed, keep a count of them, and put them in the loot tables for very rare drops from faction NPC's? If you do it that way, the only plex codes that are dropping are ones that were paid for anyway and it would cost CCP nothing. It could run as a script during downtime, take yesterday's plex items that got lost in a death and add that number to the loot table. thats exactly what i said 2 posts up :P but yeah its the best idea but not all of them, otherwise ccp wont make their $$
Sama Weaver	Posted - 2010.08.11 15:38:00 - [55] Edited by: Sama Weaver on 11/08/2010 15:38:22 Originally by: Eventy One I've never owned a PLEX; use one; bought one. I'm not trying to get around anything. But .. CCP says they aren't special. Fine, why can't players obtain them due to lucky NPC drops? Some pretty expensive things drop all the time? Because PLEX is an alternative method of adding game time to your account which was implemented by CCP to be more convenient FOR THE PLAYER while at the same time still generating subscription income, there is no way around the fact that PLEX is and always will be a SPECIAL item. Real money is in some direct or indirect way tied to PLEX existing in-game. If CCP were to add it to random loot tables they would lose their revenue stream quickly and we would all suffer for it. Quit being lazy and either front the ISK in game and just buy the damn thing or front the money from your bank account and just buy the damn thing. Oh and please, whichever method you choose to use, please load up some PLEX in a Kestrel in Jita, we all love bright shiny light shows and things that go boom!!!
Lemmy Kravitz	Posted - 2010.08.11 16:08:00 - [56] Why don't NPC's drop "World Peace" and or the "Screw everyone else I win Button" or at the very least let me construct them. otherwise they have special status.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey Mordus Angels	Posted - 2010.08.11 18:39:00 - [57] Originally by: MatrixSkye One of these reduces CCP's revenue. The other scenario doesn't. I'll let you figure out which does what. Yes and having a player buy a PLEX only to lose it in a ship does what? It results in an increase in CCP's revenue without having to provide service; which is what all the controversy is really all about. I'm trying to pose a fair and even solution. I do agree with CCP that plex's ought to be movable. I don't agree however that CCP should simply be able to increase their revenue without providing a service. If NCP rats dropping plex's results in a drop of income, it only does so based on the revenue gained by PLEX's being destroyed. There is no net loss here. At most it is a 0 sum gain.
Sama Weaver	Posted - 2010.08.11 19:43:00 - [58] Originally by: Eventy One Yes and having a player buy a PLEX only to lose it in a ship does what? It results in an increase in CCP's revenue without having to provide service; which is what all the controversy is really all about. Quit trying to validate your inability to cope with the way this game is designed AND properly functioning. Welcome to Eve, this is chaos, this is intended to be chaos, where EVERYTHING you do, every decision is a risk, if you want safe go play on a WoW PVE server.
Sama Weaver	Posted - 2010.08.11 19:46:00 - [59] Originally by: Eventy One Yes and having a player buy a PLEX only to lose it in a ship does what? It results in an increase in CCP's revenue without having to provide service; which is what all the controversy is really all about. I'm trying to pose a fair and even solution. I do agree with CCP that plex's ought to be movable. I don't agree however that CCP should simply be able to increase their revenue without providing a service. CCP does provide a service, you buy the plex you get your plex an hour later, after that CCP is not going to intervene or interfere in what you do with said items or what happens to you or to the items after you have received them. Now seriously quit trying.

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