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Catherine Frasier
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Posted - 2010.08.13 14:51:00 -
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 Originally by: BrundleMeth
Take a look at the entire world. NO ONE CARES.
Except all those countries like the US, UK, Canada, Japan, the EC who have donated money, supplies and workers, NGOs like the Red Cross, millions of private individuals and even and private corporations like Coke(!) who are donating and offering assistance. Yeah, clearly NO ONE (other than the millions of us who care) CARES.
Put another way, speak for yourself. If you don't care that's one thing but don't tar the rest of us with that brush.
Originally by: Shawna Gray
Just about everyone is getting really tired of people from that part of the world.
And again, speak for yourself.
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Yabus
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Posted - 2010.08.13 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nadia Shah
Some clarification on this issue would ease some of the restlessness within the game.
What in the hell are you talking about?
Anyway I'll just speak for myself when I say I'm glad Pakistan is flooding. Now they might start taking baths instead of just cleaning the poop off of their asses with their left hands and calling it a day.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.13 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch
It doesn't work that way. Nukes have to be continually tested, maintenance and upgraded. You don't just store a nuke and forget it.
They also say not to worry about the many nukes which have sunk below the sea. Or the fallout from poorly concieved high atmosphere nuclear tests. Or the uranium which powers most satellites, which will shower isotopes over the Earth when they burn up on reentry. The idea they're being responsible with the technology is something of a myth. There's literally tens of thousands of nukes which have just been laying around in various states of disrepair in the US and Russia since the cold war.
Unless someone comes out and finally proves to the world there's a link between all this and thyroid cancer, which was extremely rare before the first nuclear tests in Trinity Nevada, and first started appearing downwind from there after, and in increasing numbers year after year, you can expect this relaxed attitude to continue.
My deepest sympathies.
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cheet sheet
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Posted - 2010.08.13 15:07:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Jint Hikaru
Edited by: Jint Hikaru on 13/08/2010 09:13:42
Originally by: Nadia Shah
Some clarification on this issue would ease some of the restlessness within the game.
HAHAHA, OMG, really? restlennsess withing the game?
What a Company or Individual gives to charity is a personal choice and none of your business. If you are so concerned, why dont you make a donation.
I know a way you could free up an extra 15euros a month that you could send to charity.
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Graelyn
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.08.13 15:10:00 -
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I do have something to say to the OP, and it's not political in any way.
You're a stupid t*** and I think punching you in the face would give me a woodie.
Fly Safe!
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Malcanis
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Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.08.13 15:42:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 13/08/2010 15:16:43
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
It doesn't work that way. Nukes have to be continually tested, maintenance and upgraded. You don't just store a nuke and forget it.
They also say not to worry about the many nukes which have sunk below the sea. Or the fallout from poorly concieved high atmosphere and deep ocean nuclear tests. Or the uranium which powers most satellites, which will shower isotopes over the Earth when they burn up on reentry. The idea they're being responsible with the technology is something of a myth. There's literally tens of thousands of nukes which have just been laying around in various states of disrepair in the US and Russia since the cold war.
Unless someone comes out and finally proves to the world there's a link between all this and the meteoric rise of cancers, like thyriod for example, which was extremely rare before the first nuclear tests in Trinity Nevada, and started appearing downwind from there after, and in increasing numbers over wider ranges year after year, you can expect this relaxed attitude to continue.
Please tell me you're trolling and not actually this igno-
Oh wait, it's you. Carry on.
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Captain Pompous
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Posted - 2010.08.13 15:45:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Steve Celeste
Edited by: Steve Celeste on 13/08/2010 14:15:01
I thought that Pakis had experience with flooding a country.
You racist, I have reported your post and hope you get banned
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.08.13 15:51:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Malcanis
Please tell me you're trolling and not actually this igno-
Oh wait, it's you. Carry on.
Sorry for shattering your world view there, Pollyanna.
There must be something good on TV for you to watch instead.
My deepest sympathies.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:02:00 -
[189]
Moved from General Discussion.
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Cebraio
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:04:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Shawna Gray
If you read this thread you can easily understand why there is no big campaigns to help pakistan. Just about everyone is getting really tired of people from that part of the world.
Appointing yourself as spokeswoman for the whole world, huh?
Originally by: Zia Aiz
I highly encourage any company that wants to donate some money to a good cause.
But lets face it, the word is full of people that need money, CCP isn't a charity case.
CCP has put in effort in the Haiti thing and we can't keep expecting CCP to donate to everything that happens in the world.
CCP hasn't donated. We have.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:14:00 -
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Well Pakistan has spent a fortune on a nuclear weapon program. To counter India's nuclear weapon program. This is typical military calculus for a state. A strong state to protect its citizens. This overides providing simpler help to citizens such as electricity, water, schools and hospitals. If you are killed in a way that also affronts the country your from then politicians will make you a martyr, rally and swear revenge. If you are killed in another innocuous way such as been run over. Then you will get attention from only your immediate social circle and family. Strange world eh.
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Alpheias
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:21:00 -
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In school I learned that our race (humankind) are called homo sapiens. Then I learned that this planet, Earth, is divided by borders which make up most of the nations in the world. And then I learned about religions - another word for people who desire to have answers but didn't have any, so they invented some based on their need.
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Fleetworks
The Spire Collective
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:22:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Rpeg
Edited by: Rpeg on 12/08/2010 23:29:11
EVERYONE SHUT UP
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no.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:24:00 -
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It's all politics, I opt for the 'let die' option in this case.
Cold hard yes but forum censorship won't let me get into specifics so i'll just chalk it down to not supporting people supporting an unhumanitarian regime.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:29:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Ressiv on 13/08/2010 16:28:55
Originally by: Nadia Shah
blah blah
Confirming I dont give a **** about what CCP does about this. In the end, it's now what CCP did, it's what I did to help where I could.
Now stop pointing 3 fingers at yourself and 1 at CCP and spend your time on something usefull actualy helping the situation you care about so much.
... unless offcourse you just used another angle to **** and moan about CCP, in which case you should have your lips replaced by your *******, so we know you are talking **** from the start.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:30:00 -
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maybe Pakistan is more able to handle this. remember Haiti is 100% poor. Pakistan is like Beverly Hills compared to Haiti.(the difference is that if a Natural Disaster destroyed Beverly Hills we would not have to care because they are all rich)
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Richard Christy
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:45:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Ariane VoxDei
[selvsencored]
This might be my new favourite word.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:51:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Catherine Frasier
Edited by: Catherine Frasier on 13/08/2010 15:06:52
Originally by: BrundleMeth
Take a look at the entire world. NO ONE CARES.
Except all those countries like the US, UK, Canada, Japan, the EC who have donated money, supplies and workers, NGOs like the Red Cross, millions of private individuals and even private corporations like Coke(!) who are donating and offering assistance. Yeah, clearly NO ONE (other than the millions of us who care) CARES.
Put another way, speak for yourself. If you don't care that's one thing but don't tar the rest of us with that brush.
Originally by: Shawna Gray
Just about everyone is getting really tired of people from that part of the world.
And again, speak for yourself.
NO !!!
NO ONE CARES...
The paltry sums given by the people you mention is just a meaningless feel good amount to ease peoples minds. Compared to the amount given to other things, this is nothing. And as I said, the UN is still whining for more...
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Cebraio
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Posted - 2010.08.13 16:55:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
maybe Pakistan is more able to handle this. remember Haiti is 100% poor. Pakistan is like Beverly Hills compared to Haiti.(the difference is that if a Natural Disaster destroyed Beverly Hills we would not have to care because they are all rich)
To add some numbers to your claims:
Haiti GDP (nominal p.c.) 2009 estimate (after the earthquake): $733
Pakistan GDP (nominal p.c.) 2010 estimate (before the flooding): $1067
USA GDP (nominal p.c.) 2009 estimate: $46.381
Doesn't look that rich to me. Especially compared to Beverly Hills.
All numbers from Wikipedia.
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So Sensational
GREY COUNCIL
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2010.08.13 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nadia Shah
If you remember back to the Haiti earthquake CCP decided to run a PLEX for Haiti campaign, First time CCP ever decided to show a "humanitarian" face, Yet before that never decided to PLEX for Tsunami, Pakistan Earthquake, Hurricane Katrina, Or any other natural disaster.
Now we have an even bigger natural disaster affecting 14 million people and CCP has done nothing, So my question here is, Why does CCP choose to raise funds for certain disasters but not others? What is the criteria for which CCP must do something to help? Is it that CCP only helps certain Nations? Races? Religions?
Some clarification on this issue would ease some of the restlessness within the game.
Because CCP is secretly controlled by the NWO, who secretly caused the flood to secretly wipe out Al-Qaida? Duuh.
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Eyam Eohkeay
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Posted - 2010.08.13 19:54:00 -
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I don't subscribe to these helping by donation ideers most of the time. There are fundamental problems with it.
Namely,
1) Sometimes helping isn't helping: Sometimes you can unknowingly crush the livelyhood of citizens in target country, IE donating a bunch of clothes... I heard a sad story once about a group shipping boatloads of clothing to help a country, and by doing so, put a large part of the population out of work as their products couldn't compete with free.
2) Accountability, expenses, administration - where do the funds go?
When you donate money to a company or organization, it not only gets held up in the pipes for ages, a lot of it 'disappears' amidst the various expenses and things involved.
If you want to help, either physically donate your services, OR find a group of people who are organizing a trip or something and help fund their project somehow. Or donate to an organization that clearly defines how much of your money is going where.
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Vogue
Skynet Nexus
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Posted - 2010.08.13 20:01:00 -
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Charity is best done to organisations that spend the money directly on projects like water, electricity, schools, hospitals. Giving money to countries as charity is a waste of time. They will spend it on a fleet of new Mercedes limosines. On militery, etc.
The USA does give countries like Pakistan money. Its to keep them onside. Though the USA once told them follow our policies or we bomb you back to the stone age.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Damu'Khonde
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Posted - 2010.08.13 23:49:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
but forum censorship won't let me get into specifics.
Censorship?
What censorship?
/looks to the left
/looks to the right
Wait. I remember Pesky made me laugh in this thread  I want to see those posts again 
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Jerreie
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Posted - 2010.08.14 00:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jerreie on 14/08/2010 00:14:44
Because philanthropy is ************ (edit: auto-eroticism). You do it to make yourself feel better. You pretend to care, others pretend to believe you care and round and round it goes. It's the world's biggest circle jerk.
I don't care about people starving, dying, losing their homes and families, being oppressed or tortured. But I care even less about how much you want other people to know that you do. So go away.
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adfadfadfawe
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Posted - 2010.08.14 02:34:00 -
[205]
This is why we can't have nice things.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.08.14 10:18:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Jerreie
Edited by: Jerreie on 14/08/2010 00:14:44
Because philanthropy is ************ (edit: auto-eroticism). You do it to make yourself feel better. You pretend to care, others pretend to believe you care and round and round it goes. It's the world's biggest circle jerk.
I don't care about people starving, dying, losing their homes and families, being oppressed or tortured. But I care even less about how much you want other people to know that you do. So go away.
Actually i do it to make others feel better. I don't get anything out of it, and I couldn't care any less what others think of me. Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one.
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Ressiv
Cooperative Freelance Navigators Association
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Posted - 2010.08.14 11:03:00 -
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Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Actually i do it to make others feel better. I don't get anything out of it, and I couldn't care any less what others think of me. Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you dont. Each and every action you take is geared towards just 2 emotions: love and fear, or a bit more practical in this case, their derivatives pleasure and pain.
Each and every action you take is either geared towards obtaining pleasure, or avoiding pain.
If you like it or not, your subcounsious did use these two in order to support your decision. So whetter consious about it or not, you either did it to feel good about yourself, or to not feel lousy about yourself.
(... and everybody thinks anyone elses stinks)
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Minmatar
Shadow Company
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Posted - 2010.08.14 11:03:00 -
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If a major disaster strikes and the eyes of the world turn that way and people want to help, and by proxy gain something (good PR) does it cheapen the help? Does it somehow make the help worse?
Another major disaster strikes, but the eyes of the world are turned elsewhere, sure, many see it but not everyone. Is it wrong for the people who did help the last time and perhaps saved countless people not to send aid this time? Does this make the previous assistance look like an evil ploy that the people used to further their own agenda?
I have helped some charities, I have donated to improve peoples lives slightly when that same money might have bought someone else meals for a week. Does this make me a bad person? Sometimes I donate because I have extra money and it might mean I buy one less six pack etc this month. Sometimes I have donated to look good in front of my friends. Is the latter donation any less helpful than the previous one?
At least ccp did help by allowing players to give plex to one cause. Maybe this thread will prompt them to start another plex aid program.
Anyway, I hope the people in Pakistan will be safe and won't suffer. I will not be donating to this cause personally since I can't afford it.
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Posted - 2010.08.14 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: dr doooo on 14/08/2010 11:16:54
Why the tsunami and Haiti, but not Pakistan etc etc? Because westerners go on holiday to the seaside, and the USA and Iceland at least are well aware earthquakes can happen to them and people like them. Monsoon floods? Na - that's just a Johnny Foreigner problem, and everyone knows Johnny Foreigner isn't quite human in the same way we are. They don't suffer pain, hunger or anguish for lost loved ones like we do, they're used to it. It's probably their own lazy feckless fault anyway.
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ChaeDoc II
Gallente
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.08.15 02:12:00 -
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It's ironic that some people are saying Pakistan dont deserve help because they apparently support terrorism. I find it ironic because when terrorists blow up a bus with children on it and try to justify it by saying their country dessecrates their holy land... or something, while the western world wonders "what did these kids ever do to deserve this?".
Kids are dying in Pakistan and you dont think they are worth helping because you believe Pakistan support terrorism.
So, what have those kids ever done to support terrorism?
Hypocrisy, it exists everywhere.
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