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Mr Dogg
Amarr Double-Down Demolition Notice
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:00:00 -
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Remembers Yulia, The original "market-hub-node-nightmare". All this time and I'll give it to CCP they have improved EVE EXPONENTIALLY since those days.
Smart-arsed comments GO!....
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Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Dogg Remembers Yulia, The original "market-hub-node-nightmare". All this time and I'll give it to CCP they have improved EVE EXPONENTIALLY since those days.
Smart-arsed comments GO!....
was that when i was i running eve on my pIII 800 with a 25gig hd and 384mb ram? The world has moved faster than eve development.
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Ager Agemo
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:34:00 -
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excuse me if i sound ignorant, but if nodes can only run on a single core, wouldnŠt it make sense to have a machine apart that has a single/dual core super clocked to handle special cases ? ( big fleet battles and alike ) something like an AMD procesor at 5000mhz or so? i believe a less core new procesor can easily be overclocked much more than a multicore procesor. or i m wrong?
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.01 23:46:00 -
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Edited by: Stick Cult on 01/09/2010 23:47:48
Originally by: Ager Agemo excuse me if i sound ignorant, but if nodes can only run on a single core, wouldnŠt it make sense to have a machine apart that has a single/dual core super clocked to handle special cases ? ( big fleet battles and alike ) something like an AMD procesor at 5000mhz or so? i believe a less core new procesor can easily be overclocked much more than a multicore procesor. or i m wrong?
What chip can reach 5 ghz, even overclocked? And then, more importantly, what server chip can reach 5 ghz? (Not sure on the ease of overclocking thing single vs multiple core thing) Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM). The new Jita node has faster RAM, which is why it can handle more people.
edit: Part of CCP's plan with the servers was them thinking "whoa, chips are getting so much faster ever day! We can just upgrade our servers every few years to reduce lag..." back in 2000. Well, they kinda flopped. (lolololol)
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.02 00:53:00 -
[185]
Clearly, CCP must begin harvesting human brains to act as servers.
My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq. |
Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.02 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM).
I thought that the reason they use 1 core is that EVE is not programmed to use multiple cores therefore they are a waste
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.02 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Stick Cult Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM).
I thought that the reason they use 1 core is that EVE is not programmed to use multiple cores therefore they are a waste
Right, but I thought I remember them saying they could pack basically 2 copies of the server code into 2 seperate cores on one blade. Which they don't, because of the RAM issue. And Eve is only running on one core.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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thegallenteamarrguy
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Posted - 2010.09.02 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: thegallenteamarrguy on 02/09/2010 02:22:34
Originally by: Jita Alt666
Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Cergorach Scenario: 1800 EVE players sitting in station Jita 4-4, they all decide to hit the undock button at once. What happens on/to the server?
Smoke.
Followed by CCP banning the accounts that are alts of non IT members, because again such an action is against the EULA
Keep tryin' real hard to get a negative response from CCP. I think it's working.
For an actual question: Why not just get a couple hundred of the android bots that you talked about earlier to come into jita to see what it'd be like?
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Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.02 05:02:00 -
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Enjoy
IBM HS22
Over 4,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NekoKitten
Gallente Novus Culpa Astra The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.02 05:19:00 -
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I was in Dodixie last night and I think people got it mistaken with Jita, cos selling of stuff was beginning to crawl ;) |
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Lieutenant Obvious
Lobster Sticks To Magnet
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Posted - 2010.09.02 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Stick Cult Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM).
I thought that the reason they use 1 core is that EVE is not programmed to use multiple cores therefore they are a waste
Right, but I thought I remember them saying they could pack basically 2 copies of the server code into 2 seperate cores on one blade. Which they don't, because of the RAM issue. And Eve is only running on one core.
Something to think about (assuming it hasn't been stated already, didnt read entire thread): New Nehalem/Westmere processors (5500 and 5600 series) have a feature called TurboBoost - if you only have 1 core doing work and all others are idle it'll overclock itself significantly. Don't quote me, but I remember numbers like 3.8GHz. For a single-threaded application that only cares about pure, unadulterated single-core grunt, that is a huge bone to throw it.
Which is why I can see this certainly being a very successful test against a dedicated, single-system node.
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ma perke
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Posted - 2010.09.02 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Yokai Edited by: CCP Yokai on 25/08/2010 16:20:27
Okay... the spec:
IBM HS22 1 x Xeon 4C X5667 95W 3.06GHz/1333MHz/12MB 6 x 8GB PC3-10600 CL9 ECC DDR3 1333MHz VLP RDIMM 146 GB 2.5in Slim-HS 10K 6GB SAS HDD
at 4000USD this server is overpriced nothing to brag about... get the new SSD instead of SAS, theu have much more IOPS which should be the key here
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.02 06:23:00 -
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how about fixing lag in other areas
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Bloodswain Fresch
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Posted - 2010.09.02 06:29:00 -
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Sorry, but it's worse than ever. Just before posting this, sitting in the station Jita IV - Moon 6 - Hyasyoda Corporation Refinery, I tried to get a 6 month price history table for Medium Anti-thermal Screen Reinforcer I.
When I started, there were 693 local; and I was alone in this station. After 10 minutes of waiting while nothing happened, I gave up and tried again--same result.
Been playing on various accounts for three years; never seen it anywhere near this bad.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.09.02 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult
What chip can reach 5 ghz, even overclocked? And then, more importantly, what server chip can reach 5 ghz? (Not sure on the ease of overclocking thing single vs multiple core thing) Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM). The new Jita node has faster RAM, which is why it can handle more people.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/836/1/ That method might not be viable for day-to-day use but it shows that that CPU can run at over 5Ghz. Almost two years later and with a more conventional cooling method you might still get exceptional results.
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Marc Mactravis
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Posted - 2010.09.02 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: NekoKitten I was in Dodixie last night and I think people got it mistaken with Jita, cos selling of stuff was beginning to crawl ;)
Yeah I was there too.
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Ender Dax
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Posted - 2010.09.02 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Stick Cult
What chip can reach 5 ghz, even overclocked? And then, more importantly, what server chip can reach 5 ghz? (Not sure on the ease of overclocking thing single vs multiple core thing) Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM). The new Jita node has faster RAM, which is why it can handle more people.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/836/1/ That method might not be viable for day-to-day use but it shows that that CPU can run at over 5Ghz. Almost two years later and with a more conventional cooling method you might still get exceptional results.
Alright alright, pass around the hat for liquid nitrogen money and get this over with..
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RiskyFrisky
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:06:00 -
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Edited by: RiskyFrisky on 02/09/2010 23:08:37 Okay, so after a few days of doing nothing but sitting around in Jita.
I've noticed that the time for the 'Employment History' tab in character panels now loads significantly quicker along side undocks etc. Jumping into the system also seems to be a bit quicker, as before node I was getting a blank screen for a good 5-10 seconds, it is now as if I was jumping into any other system.
You did good CCP. Now do better. _
Ohh hai, I saw you like to kill people, so I brought starcakes. |
Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ender Dax
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Stick Cult
What chip can reach 5 ghz, even overclocked? And then, more importantly, what server chip can reach 5 ghz? (Not sure on the ease of overclocking thing single vs multiple core thing) Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM). The new Jita node has faster RAM, which is why it can handle more people.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/836/1/ That method might not be viable for day-to-day use but it shows that that CPU can run at over 5Ghz. Almost two years later and with a more conventional cooling method you might still get exceptional results.
Alright alright, pass around the hat for liquid nitrogen money and get this over with..
That hat has come around to me every 3 months for last 4 years and everytime it comes around I put 2 x $38.85 in it and then another 12+ x plex.
How many times will the hat have to go around to enable this fix to go ahead?
Fake edit: Oh another 6 times you say?
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Barakkus
Kaalakiota Innovations
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: Stick Cult
What chip can reach 5 ghz, even overclocked? And then, more importantly, what server chip can reach 5 ghz? (Not sure on the ease of overclocking thing single vs multiple core thing) Another bottleneck in the servers is RAM (Another reason CCP only uses 1 core on multicore processors, it's just more CPU trying to get to the same RAM). The new Jita node has faster RAM, which is why it can handle more people.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/836/1/ That method might not be viable for day-to-day use but it shows that that CPU can run at over 5Ghz. Almost two years later and with a more conventional cooling method you might still get exceptional results.
I saw some video of someone overclocking like a 386 or some old crap to like 4ghz with some liquid nitrogen, ran for like 5 minutes before practically exploding lol
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.09.02 23:58:00 -
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ok so you have fixed jita whats next
are we talking more mass testing, software upgrades, finishing 00 factional warfare missions or factional warfare 00
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KUN TEWK
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Posted - 2010.09.03 04:29:00 -
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I've noticed some unwelcome changes after the upgrades to Jita.... Now, at times, I'll click on a ship to put in my overview and my ship will suddenly approach that target w/out a command. Also I'm always getting a "You cannot do that during warp." instruction at inappropiate times.
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Jake Falcor
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Posted - 2010.09.03 06:13:00 -
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Originally by: KUN TEWK I've noticed some unwelcome changes after the upgrades to Jita.... Now, at times, I'll click on a ship to put in my overview and my ship will suddenly approach that target w/out a command. Also I'm always getting a "You cannot do that during warp." instruction at inappropiate times.
Fix Your Mouse.
End.
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CCP Yokai
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Posted - 2010.09.03 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: CCP Yokai on 03/09/2010 09:50:53 In response to questions about when do we do this for 0.0:
After Sunday we should have all the data we need to prove and measure the impact on Eve from:
Changes in Memory Latency Changes in Chip Architecture Changes in Cache Changes in Clock Rate Addition of Turbo Boost
When we have this we can much more easily spec the optimal system for Jita and similar systems and move on. This same server will be then used to benchmark fleet fights in 0.0
With all of your help the test in Jita gets us the predictable load we need for baseline data collection and we move right into improving 0.0
I hope that helps better explain the intentions of this testing.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.03 10:09:00 -
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Umm... Yay!
I is happy!
-- Tactical Responder who is Organized and a Leading-edge Linguist |
Guns nButter
Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.09.03 17:14:00 -
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i be thinking that CCP done good with 1300 in local and zero lag.
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TriadSte
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.03 19:14:00 -
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I dont know much about servers but I know alot about desktop PCs and I have this question.
Core I7 are right now the very best CPU known to mankind. Why not use one of these for Jita? How is a Xeon better? theres no faster CPU for number crunching than a I7.
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Vomit Comet
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Posted - 2010.09.03 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Vomit Comet on 03/09/2010 21:34:28
Originally by: TriadSte Core I7 are right now the very best CPU known to mankind. Why not use one of these for Jita? How is a Xeon better? theres no faster CPU for number crunching than a I7.
Use some google-fu: the server blade mentioned at the start of this thread uses the server version (Xeon Westmere) of the Core i7.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.09.04 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Vomit Comet Edited by: Vomit Comet on 03/09/2010 21:34:28
Originally by: TriadSte Core I7 are right now the very best CPU known to mankind. Why not use one of these for Jita? How is a Xeon better? theres no faster CPU for number crunching than a I7.
Use some google-fu: the server blade mentioned at the start of this thread uses the server version (Xeon Westmere) of the Core i7.
Server cpu >>>>>>>>>>> consumer cpu.
Originally by: CCP Oveur My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
Originally by: Ryhss There is no paranoia in Eve, everyone is out to get you....
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.09.04 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Vomit Comet Edited by: Vomit Comet on 03/09/2010 21:34:28
Originally by: TriadSte Core I7 are right now the very best CPU known to mankind. Why not use one of these for Jita? How is a Xeon better? theres no faster CPU for number crunching than a I7.
Use some google-fu: the server blade mentioned at the start of this thread uses the server version (Xeon Westmere) of the Core i7.
Server cpu >>>>>>>>>>> consumer cpu.
The Xeons are re-branded i7s with additional QPI lanes for multiprocessor setups. They are effectively exactly the same as an i7, no better or worse.
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