New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP.

This has to be the stupidest statement I've heard out of any pvper in eve to date.
So am I to understand then that pvp is really only about "ganking " non-combat ships? So because barges which are larger than cruiser sized and T2 finally have their stats adjusted to T1 battle crusier and smaller, where they should be, you can no longer play the game and kill folk? This must be a joke.

Have you even tried any Sisi play to confirm that your way of eve life has been "destroyed"? because I have.. and guess what, barges can be killed. No, you can't kill them in 4 seconds with a frig or destroyer - but you should never have been able to do that in the first place.. and some more news.. the hulk is not changing that much. so if you spot a toothless tankless hulk, you are saved.. you'll be able to "pvp" again.

stupid thread.

This has to be the stupidest statement I've heard out of any pvper in eve to date.
So am I to understand then that pvp is really only about "ganking " non-combat ships? So because barges which are larger than cruiser sized and T2 finally have their stats adjusted to T1 battle crusier and smaller, where they should be, you can no longer play the game and kill folk? This must be a joke.

Have you even tried any Sisi play to confirm that your way of eve life has been "destroyed"? because I have.. and guess what, barges can be killed. No, you can't kill them in 4 seconds with a frig or destroyer - but you should never have been able to do that in the first place.. and some more news.. the hulk is not changing that much. so if you spot a toothless tankless hulk, you are saved.. you'll be able to "pvp" again.

stupid thread.

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Ganking isn't PVP.

New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP, With the exception of low-sec, null-sec, null-fleets, CTAs, Batphones, POS-shooting, Faction Warfare, Gate Gamping, WH raiding, Miner Raiding, Mission Busting, Plex Busting. War-Declarations, Can-Flipping, Piracy, small gang roaming, T3 Roams, Drunk Fleets, Ganked nights, destroyer roams, wolf packs... other than that there is no PVP for former gankers.

This has to be the stupidest statement I've heard out of any pvper in eve to date.

Yeah, since when did trying to blow up a ship before being concorded equate to player vs player? That's still PVE in my book.

You mean, "player vs. unarmed ship"? Yeah, I agree with you completely. Heaven forbid a player actually goes up against A PLAYER THAT SHOOTS BACK!! *shock* *gasp*

Forget it sista, you are preaching to a deaf audience.

You mean, "player vs. unarmed ship"? Yeah, I agree with you completely. Heaven forbid a player actually goes up against A PLAYER THAT SHOOTS BACK!! *shock* *gasp*

A "real" pvp'er wouldn't have said something this stupid. Hence...

New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP, With the exception of low-sec, null-sec, null-fleets, CTAs, Batphones, POS-shooting, Faction Warfare, Gate Gamping, WH raiding, Miner Raiding, Mission Busting, Plex Busting. War-Declarations, Can-Flipping, Piracy, small gang roaming, T3 Roams, Drunk Fleets, Ganked nights, destroyer roams, wolf packs... other than that there is no PVP for former gankers.

Yeah, since when did trying to blow up a ship before being concorded equate to player vs player? That's still PVE in my book.

Exactly.

That's like saying you "got into a fight with someone and won" when all you really did was knock them out with a baseball bat from behind, or with a sucker punch like a ***.

You have to be a special type of spineless worm to do that IRL and a special type of epic failure PVPer to do that in Eve to miners.

Personally, I equate it to knocking out old ladies with sucker punches or baseball bats.

Which part of ganking an unarmed target qualified as 'PvP'?

omg this buff, I was a ganker but now...



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The fact both are players.

As I stated before... that seams to be the only justification that gankers are able to come up with...

The fact both are players.

The "versus" implies a two-way conflict.

have their stats adjusted to T1 battle crusier and smaller, where they should be,.

show me the T1 battlecruiser that has 80k ehp unfit