The fact both are players.

You mean the gankers will have to go back to ganking haulers and making an actual profit instead of getting subsidized ?

What will they do they won't qualify for food stamps anymore ?

It is.

We can still make a profit on bad miners.

New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP, With the exception of low-sec, null-sec, null-fleets, CTAs, Batphones, POS-shooting, Faction Warfare, Gate Gamping, WH raiding, Miner Raiding, Mission Busting, Plex Busting. War-Declarations, Can-Flipping, Piracy, small gang roaming, T3 Roams, Drunk Fleets, Ganked nights, destroyer roams, wolf packs... other than that there is no PVP for former gankers.

Sorry, things don't become true just because you want them to be (or think they are).

Does the dev reply need to be posted again? Ganking miners was never ment to be profit. Who says you still cant fight miners? Bring more people or more fire power, but for the love of all that is EVE bring less tears.

In this case its true because its true.

We should just take your word for it? Give us some facts, references, numbers... something other than "I know EVERYTHING!"

Also, you've got a dang edit button. Use it. Double posts make you look addled.

NickyYo posting in a Tom Gerard thread .... Did someone just google google?????? THE WORLD WILL END

New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP, With the exception of low-sec, null-sec, null-fleets, CTAs, Batphones, POS-shooting, Faction Warfare, Gate Gamping, WH raiding, Miner Raiding, Mission Busting, Plex Busting. War-Declarations, Can-Flipping, Piracy, small gang roaming, T3 Roams, Drunk Fleets, Ganked nights, destroyer roams, wolf packs... other than that there is no PVP for former gankers.

New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP, With the exception of low-sec, null-sec, null-fleets, CTAs, Batphones, POS-shooting, Faction Warfare, Gate Gamping, WH raiding, Miner Raiding, Mission Busting, Plex Busting. War-Declarations, Can-Flipping, Piracy, small gang roaming, T3 Roams, Drunk Fleets, Ganked nights, destroyer roams, wolf packs... other than that there is no PVP for former gankers.

sorry for asking but what exaclty is changing on wednesday? i cant find anything explaining the changes to mining ships.

New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP, With the exception of low-sec, null-sec, null-fleets, CTAs, Batphones, POS-shooting, Faction Warfare, Gate Gamping, WH raiding, Miner Raiding, Mission Busting, Plex Busting. War-Declarations, Can-Flipping, Piracy, small gang roaming, T3 Roams, Drunk Fleets, Ganked nights, destroyer roams, wolf packs... other than that there is no PVP for former gankers.

all of that is just myth , legend from the Jovian Empire ...
the only pvp In new eden is The AWESOMNESS GATECAMP PVp ... the true One , the beloved one , the cherished one , the Balls one...

INDEED

New Mining Barge stats completely eliminate PVP, With the exception of low-sec, null-sec, null-fleets, CTAs, Batphones, POS-shooting, Faction Warfare, Gate Gamping, WH raiding, Miner Raiding, Mission Busting, Plex Busting. War-Declarations, Can-Flipping, Piracy, small gang roaming, T3 Roams, Drunk Fleets, Ganked nights, destroyer roams, wolf packs... other than that there is no PVP for former gankers.

king hulk is not going to be lord of the miners anymore, the mining frigates will no longer be mining frigates, their job is going to a mining frigate. The hulk and covetor will be the roid munchers, the retriver and mack will be the fatboys with big ore holds and the procurer and skiff will be the bricks of the mining world.

Miners are whining because we can still kill them and the bad gankers are whining because they are bad at ganking.

king hulk is not going to be lord of the miners anymore, the mining frigates will no longer be mining frigates, their job is going to a mining frigate. The hulk and covetor will be the roid munchers, the retriver and mack will be the fatboys with big ore holds and the procurer and skiff will be the bricks of the mining world.

Miners are whining because we can still kill them and the bad gankers are whining because they are bad at ganking.

so hulks will still be king yield, retr. will be fatter and all these barges will have better defenses?

Skiff and procurer will be the tanky ones. The others will be slightly better to no change.

Ah, but actors are given/offered specific roles, and how they portray them is influenced to some extent by the director. An EVE player has complete creative freedom and as such you can tell a lot about their mentality by how they choose to play.

Don't spend all your time griefing people in RL? For some it is only RL consequences that stops them. Put them in New Eden and take away those consequences and they now have the freedom to be the annoying assholes that they always wished they could be.

Anyway, I'm a noob so what do I know?
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sorry for asking but what exaclty is changing on wednesday? i cant find anything explaining the changes to mining ships.

You need to come in from the belts once in awhile bro....