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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.28 11:57:00 -
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15 minutes for the Global Criminal Countdown is absurd. It serves no purpose past 5 minutes, other than to simply irritate and bore pirates.
For the love of God, please knock this overpowered beast back a notch or two.
Also, quit giving GCC to pirates who rep/assist pirates in their own corp. I realize the need to prevent alts from helping pirates as it is, and taking a sec status hit is fine, but don't give people a global for helping their corpmates. It's, again, nothing more than irritating.
Already smells like flaming carebears in here... --
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.08.28 12:01:00 -
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Yea i too wish i could just walk back to where i died as a ghost and its all over.
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.28 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Brian Ballsack Yea i too wish i could just walk back to where i died as a ghost and its all over.
Nope, you don't get it. I didn't say get rid of GCC. I didn't say make eve easier. There's no protection that 15 minutes is giving that 5 minutes wouldn't equally give without forcing pirates to twiddle their thumbs in space for an extra ten minutes. --
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EVEcitizen2119278
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Posted - 2010.08.28 12:07:00 -
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Obvious troll, you'd have to be an idiot not to see why the game is this way.
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.28 12:14:00 -
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Not trolling.
I probably get 10 globals a day. Some overlap, but I'd bet I spend close to an hour a day in safe spots or docked waiting out GCC. It's irritating since there is NO reason for 15 minutes of global.
Just calling me an idiot doesn't prove you're right. Please explain how 15 minutes better serves to make piracy difficult, or how 5 minutes would be exploited.
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heheheh
Ecliptic Refuge
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Posted - 2010.08.28 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: heheheh on 28/08/2010 12:20:00 urgh wrong post sry
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.08.28 12:57:00 -
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Knock GCC down to 5 mins and increase aggression timers to 2 mins.
You'll see less gate/station lameness and more pee vee pee.
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Grace Halibel
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Posted - 2010.08.28 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne It's irritating
Your victim just lost his ship, maybe his pod too. He must fly back to his HQ, buy a new ship, buy all the fitting, fit it, rig it insure it, update clone, buy implants... Do you think this is happiness? It's irritating too, so... you are an outlaw, face the consequences. -5 pirate should have a lifetime GCC if you ask me, 15 minuts to get "police" forget about you is nothing.
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.08.28 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne 15 minutes for the Global Criminal Countdown is absurd. It serves no purpose past 5 minutes, other than to simply irritate and bore pirates.
For the love of God, please knock this overpowered beast back a notch or two.
Also, quit giving GCC to pirates who rep/assist pirates in their own corp. I realize the need to prevent alts from helping pirates as it is, and taking a sec status hit is fine, but don't give people a global for helping their corpmates. It's, again, nothing more than irritating.
Already smells like flaming carebears in here...
Personally I would like to see it extended. If you choose to initiate agression, those you aggress should have the posibillity to hunt you down without penalty at least an hour after the attack!
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
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Sinister Dextor
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Posted - 2010.08.28 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Originally by: Tressin Khiyne 15 minutes for the Global Criminal Countdown is absurd. It serves no purpose past 5 minutes, other than to simply irritate and bore pirates.
For the love of God, please knock this overpowered beast back a notch or two.
Also, quit giving GCC to pirates who rep/assist pirates in their own corp. I realize the need to prevent alts from helping pirates as it is, and taking a sec status hit is fine, but don't give people a global for helping their corpmates. It's, again, nothing more than irritating.
Already smells like flaming carebears in here...
Personally I would like to see it extended. If you choose to initiate agression, those you aggress should have the posibillity to hunt you down without penalty at least an hour after the attack!
He's a pirate, you know, neg 10? You can 'hunt him down' any time you want. He'd probably enjoy that.
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Yansa Tholus
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Posted - 2010.08.28 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne 15 minutes for the Global Criminal Countdown is absurd. It serves no purpose past 5 minutes, other than to simply irritate and bore pirates.
For the love of God, please knock this overpowered beast back a notch or two.
Also, quit giving GCC to pirates who rep/assist pirates in their own corp. I realize the need to prevent alts from helping pirates as it is, and taking a sec status hit is fine, but don't give people a global for helping their corpmates. It's, again, nothing more than irritating.
Already smells like flaming carebears in here...
Go to 0.0 noob.
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.08.28 14:35:00 -
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CCP Made it the way it Is because that is the Way It is meant to Be. It is not your place to approve or dissaprove of their actions, which are ineffable to mere mortals such as you. Trust in CCP to do the right thing, for the Right Thing is what CCP does. How could it be otherwise?
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.28 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne I probably get 10 globals a day. Some overlap, but I'd bet I spend close to an hour a day in safe spots or docked waiting out GCC. It's irritating since there is NO reason for 15 minutes of global.
You answered your own question above. As you can see, it IS serving a purpose. It's keeping you from continuing to agress and instigate unprovoked attacks and it's keeping you in the run.
WORKING AS INTENDED.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |

Laedy
Bi-Polar Bears
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Posted - 2010.08.28 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Laedy on 28/08/2010 14:39:45
Originally by: Tressin Khiyne
Also, quit giving GCC to pirates who rep/assist pirates in their own corp.
I'm not sure about the 5 minute timer thing, but this bugs me to no end. Assisting corpmates that are outlaws should not give you GCC. I think that assisting someone WITH GCC should give you GCC, but not if they are simply below -5.
My EVE blog http://laedyinred.blogspot.com/
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Apollo Gabriel
Domini Lex Talionis Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2010.08.28 15:21:00 -
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Your pirate tears will be served at my next carebear tea party!
Thank you!
Apollo =============================== || Don't let the Trolls keep you from your goals. || =============================== |

Gashblight
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Posted - 2010.08.28 15:24:00 -
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Much rarer than care bear tears. Pirate tears are the sweetest of all.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.08.28 15:30:00 -
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Can't take the time? Don't do the crime.
Alsoà Originally by: Laedy Assisting corpmates that are outlaws should not give you GCC. I think that assisting someone WITH GCC should give you GCC, but not if they are simply below -5.
àthis. The distinction between the two is critical, though. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |

Bogota Lovejoy
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Posted - 2010.08.28 15:44:00 -
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Yea, in 18 months..
what were you saying?
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Ker HarSol
Minmatar Zip - I
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Posted - 2010.08.28 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne 15 minutes for the Global Criminal Countdown is absurd. It serves no purpose past 5 minutes, other than to simply irritate and bore pirates.
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Already smells like flaming carebears in here...
Just who is the carebear here? Who wants actions without consequences? Yeah ... tell me about carebearing. lol |

El Liptonez
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Posted - 2010.08.28 16:51:00 -
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Go to 0.0 ffs.
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.28 22:42:00 -
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If pirates wanted to go to 0.0, they would. Bottom line is, piracy is a different game than 0.0. The mechanics are different, the ships flown are different, and the type of pvp you regularly engage in is different.
As for tears; I never stated that a 15 minute timer is to "hard" or "unfair", it just serves as useless boredom. I would gladly accept a 24 hour aggression timer for 5 minutes less of pointless waiting. 99 times out of 100, I'm left in an empty system, orbiting a corpse - it simply slows down pirate gameplay.
It's not an OMGWTFIQUIT issue, it's not even a deterrent from pirating. If nothing changed, I would still enjoy piracy more than any other style of eve-play. I'm simply stating that it's a useless irritant that could be changed to work as intended.
And to all you "screw pirates and what they want" people, I would remind you that pirates keep your game alive. 0.0 PVP is completely removed from empire babies. Pirates are the living threat that makes empire alive and exciting for newer, or less adventurous players. As much as you may hate them, your game would be less fulfilling without them. You have to admit that no mission or successful trade has been as exciting as the time you were chased by pirates and got away, or the gate camp you ran. We represent the only real threat in empire space, and in the back of your mind you know that eve is dangerous as a result. Make some friends, fit some cheap ships, and go out and attack a pirate (they'll fight), and win or lose I'm sure you'll have a whole new appreciation for what they offer your game.
TLDR: Not crying, piracy != 0.0, you need pirates. --
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.08.28 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne
We represent the only real threat in empire space
privs are more realer
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.28 22:59:00 -
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This is why 0.0 is more fun. This is also why hitting up hotspots like Tama can be more fun as you can play in the belts and ignore GCC. ~
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Spurty
Caldari D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.08.28 23:02:00 -
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Sooner see it extended so people can't just log out after 15 mins.
Interesting troll though.
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Remald Kar
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Posted - 2010.08.28 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne 15 minutes for the Global Criminal Countdown is absurd. It serves no purpose past 5 minutes, other than to simply irritate and bore pirates.
For the love of God, please knock this overpowered beast back a notch or two.
Griefer tears are sooo SWEET. 
I recommend increasing GCC to 20 minutes. 
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.08.28 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Tressin Khiyne If pirates wanted to go to 0.0, they would. Bottom line is, piracy is a different game than 0.0. The mechanics are different, the ships flown are different, and the type of pvp you regularly engage in is different.
As for tears; I never stated that a 15 minute timer is to "hard" or "unfair", it just serves as useless boredom. I would gladly accept a 24 hour aggression timer for 5 minutes less of pointless waiting. 99 times out of 100, I'm left in an empty system, orbiting a corpse - it simply slows down pirate gameplay.
It's not an OMGWTFIQUIT issue, it's not even a deterrent from pirating. If nothing changed, I would still enjoy piracy more than any other style of eve-play. I'm simply stating that it's a useless irritant that could be changed to work as intended.
And to all you "screw pirates and what they want" people, I would remind you that pirates keep your game alive. 0.0 PVP is completely removed from empire babies. Pirates are the living threat that makes empire alive and exciting for newer, or less adventurous players. As much as you may hate them, your game would be less fulfilling without them. You have to admit that no mission or successful trade has been as exciting as the time you were chased by pirates and got away, or the gate camp you ran. We represent the only real threat in empire space, and in the back of your mind you know that eve is dangerous as a result. Make some friends, fit some cheap ships, and go out and attack a pirate (they'll fight), and win or lose I'm sure you'll have a whole new appreciation for what they offer your game.
TLDR: Not crying, piracy != 0.0, you need pirates.
If the 15-minute timer is not serving a purpose, then what exactly is stopping you from doing your thing and not be bored? What's stopping you from popping more ships? You're contradicting yourself.
It is serving a purpose. You just don't like that purpose. These are the consequences to face for your actions, but you don't like these consequences.
Grief a PVP'er. Run a mission today! |

Ran Khanon
Amarr Swords Horses and Heavy Metal
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Posted - 2010.08.28 23:13:00 -
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Maybe we should have hidden floating star symbols in small nooks and crannies of stations and in belts, where if you fly over one they lower your GCC by 5 minutes ...
Or maybe spray paint / body shop celestials where you can lose all of your GCC in one go but you'd have to pay for it. Ain't that sweet? I agree with everything Barakkus posts. |

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.08.29 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: MatrixSkye Mk2
If the 15-minute timer is not serving a purpose, then what exactly is stopping you from doing your thing and not be bored? What's stopping you from popping more ships? You're contradicting yourself.
Nah, I'm not. You just don't understand what I'm saying - that's ok.
For clarity's sake, THE PURPOSE of GCC is to offer limited protection to people attacked unlawfully in lowsec, and complete protection (give-or-take) to people attacked in highsec. It would equally serve this purpose at 5 minutes as it does at 15. The extra 10 minutes serves only as dead time for pirates. I realize many of you feel like it's a major victory to bore people, but it's not good gaming. If you want to win the battle, do so with skill, don't just sit back smirking because I have to orbit your corpse for 15 minutes now... all this joy over my irritation is quite pathetic. --
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OneTimeAt BannedSpank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.08.29 00:06:00 -
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I quite like circling corpses. ~
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Brusanan
Beware of Carp General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2010.08.29 00:14:00 -
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Then stop hiding until your GCC expires every time you kill someone. It's your own fault that you are bored when you have GCC.  ______
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