What is an AAR you ask? Well, Ancillary Armor Repairer. The ASB has no real counterpart on the armor tank side, correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't think of something that compliments it. I mean, the ASB is an odd add to the game; did active shield tanking really need something like this added?

Oooo-k, cool, but can something like this be added for active armor tanking? Thanks.

this game would be so much better if armor and shield tanks were exactly the same.

please also add an invulnerability field for armor, reactive shield hardeners, shield EANMs, passive armor regen and make armor reps hit at the start of the cycle -that should take care of the most glaring imbalances.

this game would be so much better if armor and shield tanks were exactly the same.

Woah, wait, hold on a second.

EVE needs less homogenization and more variety.

Both shield and armor tanks need to be effective, but in different ways.

Making them 'exactly the same' will only make things less strategic and more boring.

What is an AAR you ask? Well, Ancillary Armor Repairer. The ASB has no real counterpart on the armor tank side, correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't think of something that compliments it. I mean, the ASB is an odd add to the game; did active shield tanking really need something like this added?

Oooo-k, cool, but can something like this be added for active armor tanking? Thanks.

For a long time shields have excelled in burst tanking whilst armor have done well at passive tanking...

Armour cant passive tank

I disagree with this strongly.

For a long time shields have excelled in burst tanking whilst armor have done well at passive tanking...

I dont see why they should change this... Armor EXCELL at pvp where as shields excell at PVE!!

I really wish the cry babies would stop before they have CCP turn every ship into the same beuge uniform stats.

Afterall who wants to play SpaceBricks online?? So yeah STOP IT!

I'm not sure what game you have been playing, but shields have excelled in PvP for some time now. With shields you're much more agile, faster, can fit for gank and shield RR isn't delayed. Those are pretty big benefits in PvP, especially since the drawbacks of armor buffer makes you specifically vulnerable to range control.

Now shield burst tank has been buffed to the point, that trying to active armor tank just seems silly in comparison. Armor tankers got a module too, that is limited to a single one/ship, the resists it gives aren't impressive, it's slow to adapt, bad at adapting(doesn't take damage type proportions in to consideration) and resets if it shuts off for any reason. What an absolute sack of crap in comparison to the ASB. With armor you can still get a bigger buffer, but you sacrifice mobility and damage module slots to do it and armor RR is delayed, so it's starting to look like a one trick pony and that trick isn't all that impressive.

More importantly this isn't about making every tanking type the same. It's about making them all useful and good for something relevant. They guy in CCP who did the shield module leaned on the side of making it overpowered to get a lot of people to use it and planned to nerf it if/when problems come up. The armor guy created a prenerfed module, that has some marginal use cases, but isn't going to be in any way game altering.

I'm not sure what game you have been playing, but shields have excelled in PvP for some time now. With shields you're much more agile, faster, can fit for gank and shield RR isn't delayed. Those are pretty big benefits in PvP, especially since the drawbacks of armor buffer makes you specifically vulnerable to range control.

Now shield burst tank has been buffed to the point, that trying to active armor tank just seems silly in comparison. Armor tankers got a module too, that is limited to a single one/ship, the resists it gives aren't impressive, it's slow to adapt, bad at adapting(doesn't take damage type proportions in to consideration) and resets if it shuts off for any reason. What an absolute sack of crap in comparison to the ASB. With armor you can still get a bigger buffer, but you sacrifice mobility and damage module slots to do it and armor RR is delayed, so it's starting to look like a one trick pony and that trick isn't all that impressive.

More importantly this isn't about making every tanking type the same. It's about making them all useful and good for something relevant. They guy in CCP who did the shield module leaned on the side of making it overpowered to get a lot of people to use it and planned to nerf it if/when problems come up. The armor guy created a prenerfed module, that has some marginal use cases, but isn't going to be in any way game altering.

a sleip with one large and one x-large ASB has 38709 shield hp before any has to reload now that is about what your standard triple plate BS has armor...

The point of the ASB is that it frees up a midslot, previously needed for a cap booster, for more buffer, resistances, or ewar. You don't have this problem with an armor tank.


Now, which one survives when it's shot by five 1400mm Machariels?