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Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 13:32:00 - [1] more tank than a drake and is fully capable of running 4's though it can not run them as fast but hey at least you can spend time with your enemy and get to know them as your shooting his friend's =P
Intigo Amarr Genos Occidere	Posted - 2010.09.14 13:46:00 - [2] That looks really smart and really good. Also, great job putting the entire image in the post. ___________________
Winston Calamari	Posted - 2010.09.14 14:10:00 - [3] thnx and sorry about the image lol
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 14:18:00 - [4] Why would you fly this... ahem...bad ship, when you can fly properly fitted/rigged Rattlesnake with much better tank and doing tons more damage? --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 14:25:00 - [5] lol ok i can take a crack at this question.. i don't fly battleship's... =P you are entitled to your opinion about the gila though i strongly disagree with your hypothesis.
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 14:29:00 - [6] Edited by: Akisawa on 14/09/2010 14:35:40 Edited by: Akisawa on 14/09/2010 14:33:19 - would you please fix your image, it hurts the eyes - Gila is ways too overpriced for what it does, or was supposed to do - if you want to passive tank so badly - get into Drake and tank away - if you want to use proper mission drone boat - get Rattlesnake - what you have accomplished here in that fitting, is crap ship, doing crap dps, while tanking some damage. this is not offense to you, this is Gila's issue. why the fit fails? - if you see there are empty slots in your fits, it is a good indicator the fit fails - crap damage with no boost to your drones. the only purpose of this fit seems to be tanking, and spending hours in missions where your drones cant hit anything - for what its worth, get drone link augmentor in high slot.. but oh wait, Gila have too crap CPU to allow that - If you plan to use sentry drones, you must fit somewhat 2 x drone tracking links, and at least 1 sentry drone rig for damage - If you plan to use heavy drones, you must fit .. drone tracking link + drone speed link --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 14:34:00 - [7] to each their own... i personally do not feel what you state to be true in my case the gila well hell i love the little boat you may offend my delicate nature by stating the gila is crap =P i personally feel it is better suited for what i do than a rattlesnake and or drake well.. any boat for that matter can we get back on the main focus of this topic?
Boltorano Fourth Circle Total Comfort	Posted - 2010.09.14 14:37:00 - [8] Linkify the image or I'm not going to bother commenting.
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 14:43:00 - [9] again sorry about the image i don't visit forum's nor talk in them much fixed
triafrenum	Posted - 2010.09.14 15:25:00 - [10] There are ships that can run lvl 4's much more efficiently for less. But it seems like you really enjoy flying your crappy gila so stick with it if you enjoy it. The fit is overtanked for lvl 4's.
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 15:36:00 - [11] appears i am not going to find what it is i came here to find... and overtanked?! lol no such thing apparently i made a mistake by posting in these forums i came for idea's and opinions about the gila* not what other ships are better suited for what in the various this and thats... apparently no one can stay on topic and i feel like i am being swung at at every step pay attention people idea's on the gila not how you feel about it nor other boats god damn can you not at least come at me with this much?>
triafrenum	Posted - 2010.09.14 15:54:00 - [12] Edited by: triafrenum on 14/09/2010 15:55:49 There is such a thing as overtanked your wasting slots on tanking when you could have them devoted to increasing your dps output. Also people are giving you valid opinions on the gila you came here for discussion on it and people are telling you its a crap ship (it is). The proper thing to do instead of ***** is to say why you think the Gila isn't crap.
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:03:00 - [13] in my previous post i gave you 10 pointers why Gila sucks if you simply love Gila so much in that weird sexual way - just get on with Gila and why would you even ask somebody's opinion, when you clearly seem not to give a flying f..ck about it --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:09:00 - [14] this is a topic on the GILA'S** fitting not the place for how you persoanlly feel about the gila nor what bolat you would preffer to the gila i do not care about your opinions on either please stay on topic and for those who appear to be attempting to troll me your remedial for trying if you have no comment's on the fit it's self (not the gila)nor any fitting's of your own (for the gila) you would liek to share then do not reply (if you do your only showing your not intelligent)
Cataca	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:10:00 - [15] Either train heavy to t2 or sentries to t2. Otherwise your DPS will make you fall asleep. i also suggest using a setup like this [Gila, New Setup 1] Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I With the Afterburner active, you wont need as much tank as you have, and you can be faster in mission completing time alltogether, if you have to fly from gate to gate. For a sentry platform, the gila is rather lackluster, if you insist on a cruiser platform for that, the ishtar is better, simply due to the fact that you can slap some omnidirectional tracking links on there without killing the ship. Alltogether, the gila isnt totally useless, but harsh fitting constraints, and crap capacitor force it into some very niche roles. Also, train heav² drones or sentries to t2 asap... i mean it.
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:12:00 - [16] Akisawa 8-3-2010 start date eh? your apparently too young and dumb to know anything about this boat nor are in a position to aid other's in this forum go ahead attempt to fail troll more please :)
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:15:00 - [17] Originally by: Cataca Either train heavy to t2 or sentries to t2. Otherwise your DPS will make you fall asleep. i also suggest using a setup like this [Gila, New Setup 1] Power Diagnostic System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I With the Afterburner active, you wont need as much tank as you have, and you can be faster in mission completing time alltogether, if you have to fly from gate to gate. For a sentry platform, the gila is rather lackluster, if you insist on a cruiser platform for that, the ishtar is better, simply due to the fact that you can slap some omnidirectional tracking links on there without killing the ship. Alltogether, the gila isnt totally useless, but harsh fitting constraints, and crap capacitor force it into some very niche roles. Also, train heav² drones or sentries to t2 asap... i mean it. ahh thank you.. as for the t2 sentry's their in the over after i up more support skill's as you can prolly tell by the pic i uploaded i am not that good for a drone pilot but that will change :) as far as the afterburner thsi is somethign i have given much thought and still have yet to reach a conclusion on that matter but i will check further into that set up you posted and i might try her out o7
Nova Sun	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:16:00 - [18] Originally by: Atrophy42 Akisawa 8-3-2010 start date eh? your apparently too young and dumb to know anything about this boat nor are in a position to aid other's in this forum go ahead attempt to fail troll more please :) Oh Lawdy you are very new around these parts aren't you.
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Atrophy42 Akisawa 8-3-2010 start date eh? your apparently too young and dumb to know anything about this boat nor are in a position to aid other's in this forum go ahead attempt to fail troll more please :) Ololololo. I think Indigo's approach is correct abour these boards. --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Akisawa Originally by: Atrophy42 Akisawa 8-3-2010 start date eh? your apparently too young and dumb to know anything about this boat nor are in a position to aid other's in this forum go ahead attempt to fail troll more please :) Ololololo. I think Indigo's approach is correct abour these boards. lol why are you even in this forum man? lol
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:38:00 - [21] Cause I dont have anything better to do while my Dominix drones chew mission atm. Now try to figure HOW can I even fly Dominix???? OMGHAX --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:41:00 - [22] err? nub skilled? alt char? lol
Cataca	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:42:00 - [23] Well, with a speed of 537 (the speed of my setup with max skills) npc ships with havy missiles will get roughly 1/3-1/2 of their possible dps on you depending on your rig skills (and thus sig). Add to that transversal against turrets and you are looking at quite a bit of damage reduction. If you kill webbing frigs fast enough you should never have any problem whatsoever, even if you pull an entire pocket. Then you can orbit some stationary thing and go afk and let your heavy drones do the work.
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:47:00 - [24] Just make sure that slowdroning missions is what you REALLY want to do. Because I would in all honesty change the stupid droneboats for raven/CNR/Golem right away. Droneboating missions is brain cancer and boring as hell. Aim for it if you REALLY want to AFK your missions. --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:54:00 - [25] Edited by: Atrophy42 on 14/09/2010 16:57:01 Originally by: Cataca Well, with a speed of 537 (the speed of my setup with max skills) npc ships with heavy missiles will get roughly 1/3-1/2 of their possible dps on you depending on your rig skills (and thus sig). Add to that transversal against turrets and you are looking at quite a bit of damage reduction. If you kill webbing frigs fast enough you should never have any problem whatsoever, even if you pull an entire pocket. Then you can orbit some stationary thing and go afk and let your heavy drones do the work. i have shield rigging IV my current signature radius is 270 meters not as good as it can be but the neccisary skill's will be put into the oven* soon
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:56:00 - [26] Originally by: Akisawa Just make sure that slowdroning missions is what you REALLY want to do. Because I would in all honesty change the stupid droneboats for raven/CNR/Golem right away. Droneboating missions is brain cancer and boring as hell. Aim for it if you REALLY want to AFK your missions. i'll pass on the battleship idea's a drake can easily do missions faster but again this is not the place for what ship you would preffer
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 16:58:00 - [27] You still dont comprehend the idea of who prefers what. What everyone keep saying to you is Gila is crappiest drone boat to run missions. Simple as that. At any rate, if I was fitting Gila for L4s (God forbid), thats something it would have looked like [Gila, pve passive] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Drone Link Augmentor I [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Cataca	Posted - 2010.09.14 17:01:00 - [28] Edited by: Cataca on 14/09/2010 17:04:36 Originally by: Akisawa Just make sure that slowdroning missions is what you REALLY want to do. Because I would in all honesty change the stupid droneboats for raven/CNR/Golem right away. Droneboating missions is brain cancer and boring as hell. Aim for it if you REALLY want to AFK your missions. This really depends on what droneboat you fly. A Domi gank setup gets close to 1k dps, you have to actively fly it, and the tank will be quite weak. But yeah, afking missions with drones is only good if you either have several alts doing it at once, or if you do it while working on something else.
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.14 17:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Akisawa You still dont comprehend the idea of who prefers what. What everyone keep saying to you is Gila is crappiest drone boat to run missions. Simple as that. At any rate, if I was fitting Gila for L4s (God forbid), thats something it would have looked like [Gila, pve passive] Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II 10MN Afterburner II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Drone Link Augmentor I [empty high slot] Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Ogre II x5 Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 well imo they just feel it is crappy because they don't know what they are talking about =P as for your comment on me not having any idea as to who preffer's what.. they have been telling me all morning in this post or are you blind to that fact?
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2010.09.14 17:13:00 - [30] Originally by: Nova Sun Edit: right fitting advice to stay on topic cruisers+AB is good In a thread full of so many kinds of fail, this is the nugget of good advice. Of course when you start adding your two omnis and AB the Gila does start to look a little undertanked, doesn't it? I'm not saying, I'm just saying....
Akisawa Caldari Path Of The Cursed	Posted - 2010.09.14 17:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Zhilia Mann Originally by: Nova Sun Edit: right fitting advice to stay on topic cruisers+AB is good In a thread full of so many kinds of fail, this is the nugget of good advice. Of course when you start adding your two omnis and AB the Gila does start to look a little undertanked, doesn't it? I'm not saying, I'm just saying.... I see what you did there =) --- Improving my day by ruining yours
Rikki Sals Caldari	Posted - 2010.09.14 18:40:00 - [32] For level 4s, an armor tanked Ishtar makes a way better drone boat IMO. Much more flexibility to fit a sentry damage rig and even Omni Link if you're bold, and control range bonus is built in so you don't have to find a way to squeeze the Drone Link in on an already horrendously CPU capped ship. Haven't found a single lvl 4 from any faction that a variation of my armor Ishtar couldn't handle.
Limdood	Posted - 2010.09.14 18:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Atrophy42 well imo they just feel it is crappy because they don't know what they are talking about =P as for your comment on me not having any idea as to who preffer's what.. they have been telling me all morning in this post or are you blind to that fact? As far as "not knowing what they are talking about," that distinction is currently falling to you. People are pointing out that you can do what you are trying to do with another ship that is FASTER, CHEAPER, and TOUGHER. Many fits "fail" because they aren't as high of dps as other fits, or they don't have as good of a tank, or they cost WAY too much (i COULD officer fit my rifter....but it just isn't worth the ISK). When your ship is flat out worse than the other ships posted, then it isn't a matter of preferring the Gila over a (lets say) drake....instead its a matter of preferring a ship that is WORSE at the job in all ways. The way to fix your fit is to move the fit onto a different hull and add some dps. PS. you can certainly be overtanked. A ship that tanks 1500 damage and does 150 will get a mission done in 2 hours, and will never be in danger of dying, ever. A ship that tanks 500 damage and deals 500 per second can do the same mission in 30 minutes....and guess what, it will never be in danger of dying.
Altaica Amur The Elliance	Posted - 2010.09.14 21:39:00 - [34] The Gila can be a nice little missioning boat for those with skills specifically geared towards gallente and caldari cruiser V and drones but that last bit is key, have drone skills or forget about the Gila until that changes. With t2 heavies and/or sentries you can get some very nice DPS while doing your afk or semi-afk missioning, likely better then a Dominix would end up in the short term due to the time to train BS V, but really you need those t2 drones.
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.09.14 21:40:00 - [35] Originally by: Altaica Amur The Gila can be a nice little missioning boat for those with skills specifically geared towards gallente and caldari cruiser V and drones but that last bit is key, have drone skills or forget about the Gila until that changes. With t2 heavies and/or sentries you can get some very nice DPS while doing your afk or semi-afk missioning, likely better then a Dominix would end up in the short term due to the time to train BS V, but really you need those t2 drones. If you have even half way reasonable gunnery skills, I'd expect a domi to do far better than the Gila/Ishtar. -Liang -- Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire On Twitter Blog
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.09.14 23:05:00 - [36] The domi looks better than the gila. Space Spud > Wtfisthatpolygonalass Nuff said.
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2010.09.15 01:17:00 - [37] Originally by: Irae Ragwan The domi looks better than the gila. Space Spud > Wtfisthatpolygonalass Nuff said. Sadly, you're right. It's really too bad: the one thing the vast majority of drone ships have in common is that they can and will make your eyes bleed. It's just a matter of how much blood you're prepared to lose.
Zeta Function	Posted - 2010.09.15 02:06:00 - [38] Originally by: Zhilia Mann Originally by: Irae Ragwan The domi looks better than the gila. Space Spud > Wtfisthatpolygonalass Nuff said. Sadly, you're right. It's really too bad: the one thing the vast majority of drone ships have in common is that they can and will make your eyes bleed. It's just a matter of how much blood you're prepared to lose. carriers aside... arbitrator is an awesome hull, esp as curse. rattlesnake looks quite awesome now with the new skin. myrmi is always a pleasant looking ship, and tbh... i find ishtar not that bad... :) all the rest can go the the spaceoven and be remodeled... ^.^
Irae Ragwan	Posted - 2010.09.15 02:19:00 - [39] Originally by: Zeta Function Originally by: Zhilia Mann Originally by: Irae Ragwan The domi looks better than the gila. Space Spud > Wtfisthatpolygonalass Nuff said. Sadly, you're right. It's really too bad: the one thing the vast majority of drone ships have in common is that they can and will make your eyes bleed. It's just a matter of how much blood you're prepared to lose. carriers aside... arbitrator is an awesome hull, esp as curse. rattlesnake looks quite awesome now with the new skin. myrmi is always a pleasant looking ship, and tbh... i find ishtar not that bad... :) all the rest can go the the spaceoven and be remodeled... ^.^ That is nonsense. The space spud has much more character than these ships. The mere thought of calling the myrm pleasant (it's a fin...) is outright herracy. PS. I'll give you the arby. Enterprise Amarr.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.15 11:06:00 - [40] Originally by: Atrophy42 Edited by: Atrophy42 on 14/09/2010 14:40:12 more tank than a drake and is fully capable of running 4's though it can not run them as fast but hey at least you can spend time with your enemy and get to know them as your shooting his friend's =P edit: removed the pic n posted link linkage Not sure how you came to the conclusion fully capable of running level 4's with 210 DPS, but I don't think that is enough to actually kill all of the ships. When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me.
Wacktopia Bi-Tech Theory Focused Intentions	Posted - 2010.09.15 11:53:00 - [41] From experience I have found the Ishtar a much easier ship to PvE in (vs Serpentis/Guristas) than the Gila. You can cap-stable active tank it to nearly 1k DPS for Kin/Therm with a few of the cheaper faction mods. I also find it easier to fit a cloak and probe launcher (off-lined until required) for plexing. Conversely, I prefer the Gila for PvP - it supports a reasonably slippery nano/shield setup with a bigger buffer than the Ishtar can support. Also, you need to be getting well over 400 dps from your drones if you're serious about using this ship for PvE like that.
FT Diomedes Gallente The Fimbriani Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.09.15 12:57:00 - [42] The Gila is a hard ship to fit, because shields and drones are very CPU hungry - and it is tight on CPU. Still, I have found this setup very effective for Level 4 missions. Can an armor-tanked or shield tanked Ishtar do it just as well for less - yes! But I still love my Gila. Rather than trying to sit in one place with sentry drones - the way I run my Dominixes or my Rattlesnake - I actually fly the ship: [Gila, Gila] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Caldari Navy Large Shield Extender Dread Guristas Heat Dissipation Field Dread Guristas Ballistic Deflection Field Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Small Tractor Beam I Salvager I Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Medium Core Defence Field Purger II Ogre II x5 Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Warrior II x5 Valkyrie II x5 Berserker II x5 --- This doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.09.15 13:38:00 - [43] I could never eft a gila that I liked, kinda disappointing because I have one from ages ago that I should have sold when they spiked up to 300m I like afterburner + passive shield tank + sentries, aka sit around speed tanking and go afk (ishtar does a great job at this one sda II one cdfp II) to make it cap stable you have to fit too many pdu and not enough spr for an awesome tank but it should work I'd just rather use something else.
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.15 14:40:00 - [44] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Atrophy42 Edited by: Atrophy42 on 14/09/2010 14:40:12 more tank than a drake and is fully capable of running 4's though it can not run them as fast but hey at least you can spend time with your enemy and get to know them as your shooting his friend's =P edit: removed the pic n posted link linkage Not sure how you came to the conclusion fully capable of running level 4's with 210 DPS, but I don't think that is enough to actually kill all of the ships. the only to be sure was to run several L4's in it and it passed with flyin color's.. i ****ed up in one and aqquired full room aggression and i never had to warp out Oo if you like you can come on a few with me just to watch :)
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.15 14:58:00 - [45] Originally by: Akisawa Edited by: Akisawa on 14/09/2010 14:35:40 Edited by: Akisawa on 14/09/2010 14:33:19 - would you please fix your image, it hurts the eyes - Gila is ways too overpriced for what it does, or was supposed to do - if you want to passive tank so badly - get into Drake and tank away - if you want to use proper mission drone boat - get Rattlesnake - what you have accomplished here in that fitting, is crap ship, doing crap dps, while tanking some damage. this is not offense to you, this is Gila's issue. why the fit fails? - if you see there are empty slots in your fits, it is a good indicator the fit fails - crap damage with no boost to your drones. the only purpose of this fit seems to be tanking, and spending hours in missions where your drones cant hit anything - for what its worth, get drone link augmentor in high slot.. but oh wait, Gila have too crap CPU to allow that - If you plan to use sentry drones, you must fit somewhat 2 x drone tracking links, and at least 1 sentry drone rig for damage - If you plan to use heavy drones, you must fit .. drone tracking link + drone speed link ahh crap ok err emtpy slots eh your prolly right but she works for what i do lets see you see any heavy drone's on this fit? me either no need for a drone speed link a drone link augmentor i can control my drones out to 60km with my skill's the gila targets at 57km with my skills enough said so no need for one umm.. spending hours in a mission where my drone's can't hit nuffin... wrong mabey in guristas extravaganza it is a long mission... and my drones hit and they hit hard the drone tracking link for my sentry's err.. my sentry's done have any problem's tracking from what i see (i don't afk tank so err i have eyes on them at all time's <--- drones can get expensive lol) yar that's all i got Oo umm... last time i went afk my dumb ass used precisions and medium drones to drop a BS Oo yus that did take longer than expected lol i figured that out roughly 13 volleys into that one but he was in low armor so i didn't bother changing to sentry's/fury's ok that's all i has on that matter lol i personally do not feel the gila suck's as much as everyone say's it does, i love the gila missiles/shields/drones <-- too epic to pass up :) non of that gallente armor tanking bullcrap (yus death to the frog federation hehe ) anyways i am starting to like this topic even though it did not turn out the way i had orginally intended but meh o7
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2010.09.15 18:38:00 - [46] Originally by: Atrophy42 Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Atrophy42 Edited by: Atrophy42 on 14/09/2010 14:40:12 more tank than a drake and is fully capable of running 4's though it can not run them as fast but hey at least you can spend time with your enemy and get to know them as your shooting his friend's =P edit: removed the pic n posted link linkage Not sure how you came to the conclusion fully capable of running level 4's with 210 DPS, but I don't think that is enough to actually kill all of the ships. the only to be sure was to run several L4's in it and it passed with flyin color's.. i ****ed up in one and aqquired full room aggression and i never had to warp out Oo if you like you can come on a few with me just to watch :) I believe you but what are the times on what missions? Have you run any missions with tough bosses like vengeance? More power to you for doing it, I am just asking if it is capable of running them all. I use a cynabal for 4's sometimes and it has less tank but more DPS and it is a PITA. I was looking for a small ship to do sansha's with so I could park it in my Orca while I mine the mission afterwards.. I wanted armor tanking against the EM damage they spit out but a gila would be able to shield tank sansha OK. So when I ask realize I am asking out of curiosity, not trolling. Thanks. When you say "fanboi" try to picture a fat man doing burlesque with 2 big ass fans that say CCP on one and HTFU on the other. Because that dude is me.
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.16 00:52:00 - [47] ahh well... to be honest i never timed myself and she can run almost as fast as my drake.. err lets see vengeance is with rachen mysuna right? that is a tuff nut to crack she can get it done as for sansha's i have learned sansha's can't aim worth a **** i stay 50 km out and stay moving personally i orbit my target at 50 and lets loose missile's and drone's and my tank rarely drop's below 74% vs. sansha's.. as for all level 4 mission's i haven't done them all but from what i see yea she is perfectly capable or doing so... worlds collide can be a bit of a douche with all the webifier's but once you down those your set
triafrenum The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.09.16 04:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Atrophy42 ahh well... to be honest i never timed myself and she can run almost as fast as my drake.. err lets see vengeance is with rachen mysuna right? that is a tuff nut to crack she can get it done as for sansha's i have learned sansha's can't aim worth a **** i stay 50 km out and stay moving personally i orbit my target at 50 and lets loose missile's and drone's and my tank rarely drop's below 74% vs. sansha's.. as for all level 4 mission's i haven't done them all but from what i see yea she is perfectly capable or doing so... worlds collide can be a bit of a douche with all the webifier's but once you down those your set So you can run missions slower then an already painfully slow going ship but you tank them really really well. If you want a ship that does terrible dps but has an even bigger tank go for a vulture. You could probly get the shields to never drop below 90% and the missions will take even longer then with your gila.
Atrophy42 Caldari Science And Combat Institute	Posted - 2010.09.16 12:24:00 - [49] Originally by: triafrenum Originally by: Atrophy42 ahh well... to be honest i never timed myself and she can run almost as fast as my drake.. err lets see vengeance is with rachen mysuna right? that is a tuff nut to crack she can get it done as for sansha's i have learned sansha's can't aim worth a **** i stay 50 km out and stay moving personally i orbit my target at 50 and lets loose missile's and drone's and my tank rarely drop's below 74% vs. sansha's.. as for all level 4 mission's i haven't done them all but from what i see yea she is perfectly capable or doing so... worlds collide can be a bit of a douche with all the webifier's but once you down those your set So you can run missions slower then an already painfully slow going ship but you tank them really really well. If you want a ship that does terrible dps but has an even bigger tank go for a vulture. You could probly get the shields to never drop below 90% and the missions will take even longer then with your gila. drake runs faster than a raven contrairy to popular belief =P fail troll more please :)
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions	Posted - 2010.09.16 12:28:00 - [50] Edited by: Zhilia Mann on 16/09/2010 12:30:47 Originally by: Atrophy42 lets see you see any heavy drone's on this fit? me either no need for a drone speed link Granted -- but see below. Originally by: Atrophy42 a drone link augmentor i can control my drones out to 60km with my skill's the gila targets at 57km with my skills enough said so no need for one That's actually more of a commentary of wanting a SeBo than not wanting a DLA -- especially on a sentry fit. Originally by: Atrophy42 the drone tracking link for my sentry's err.. my sentry's have no problem's tracking from what i see (i don't afk tank so err i have eyes on them at all time's <--- drones can get expensive lol) Remember: omnis affect two things: optimal and tracking. This effectively makes them damage mods for sentry drones as it increases hit quality, especially at lower ranges but throughout the engagement window, while simultaneously increasing the size of said engagement window. So your Garde IIs can do silly things like obliterate cruisers from 5k to 50k or more. And that's without even touching any other drone types. This is a good thing. tl;dr: just fit omnis. Two if you must, three if you can, and at least one is absolutely required or it's not really a decent sentry fit. But of course you don't have to use sentries (though you are probably better off doing so). But in that case you're using heavies, and they will more or less require a speed augmentor or two -- because that's the only way to get more damage out of them (more time shooting, less time chasing and all that jazz). Either way, you're eating up mid slots and CPU. Both of which are at a premium on the Gila in degrees not present on the Ishtar, Dominix, and Rattlesnake. Which is why the Gila is a niche ship that sucks for most purposes and all PvE purposes. And there's really no arguing otherwise. Originally by: Atrophy42 i personally do not feel the gila suck's as much as everyone say's it does, i love the gila missiles/shields/drones <-- too epic to pass up :) non of that gallente armor tanking bullcrap (yus death to the frog federation hehe ) I've said it before: I really want to like the Gila. I'm within spitting distance of absolutely maxed skills for the Gila. But I just can't justify using the Gila (for PvE) over any of its direct competitors. Edit: I've been a copy editor for years. You'd think I could actually use effect and affect properly. Sigh.
triafrenum The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.09.16 14:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Atrophy42 Originally by: triafrenum Originally by: Atrophy42 ahh well... to be honest i never timed myself and she can run almost as fast as my drake.. err lets see vengeance is with rachen mysuna right? that is a tuff nut to crack she can get it done as for sansha's i have learned sansha's can't aim worth a **** i stay 50 km out and stay moving personally i orbit my target at 50 and lets loose missile's and drone's and my tank rarely drop's below 74% vs. sansha's.. as for all level 4 mission's i haven't done them all but from what i see yea she is perfectly capable or doing so... worlds collide can be a bit of a douche with all the webifier's but once you down those your set So you can run missions slower then an already painfully slow going ship but you tank them really really well. If you want a ship that does terrible dps but has an even bigger tank go for a vulture. You could probly get the shields to never drop below 90% and the missions will take even longer then with your gila. drake runs faster than a raven contrairy to popular belief =P fail troll more please :) I have come to the conclusion that you in fact are a very clever troll or a complete idiot. I would really like to hear how a drake runs missions faster then a raven.

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