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Krispy Dingo
Minmatar Strangers in a Strange Land
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: Shosuro Ayame
Originally by: Krispy Dingo Edited by: Krispy Dingo on 17/09/2010 23:16:05
Originally by: Jade Tranquility Edited by: Jade Tranquility on 17/09/2010 21:32:10 I certainly won't be abandoning my salvage destroyers for this overpriced, useless ship. And until you decide to seed these things in hisec, I'm not sure how many people are going to be dumb enough to go die trying to get it from where you will be offering it. Please start seeding these in hisec, and stop feeding the asshats who live down in outer ring easy kills
Reread the dev blog, they are not seeding SHIPS, the are seeding SKILL BOOKS and BPOs.
People will make the ships wherever they want, transport the skill books to HiSec for a profit, and everything will be just like all the other skills and BPOs seeded in the game.
You missed the point. Getting said books and BPO's are going to be an utter pain in the ass. It's nullsec. It's going to be camped to hell because it's funny making people lose 390mil for every BPO they're trying to get out.
Please tell me you're joking. EVE players must be total pansies now.
Let's see, Hulk, now it did come out before my time, but it is an ORE ship. That means it was seeded in the Outer Rings, right? Bought one for my mining alt in Jita.
Orca, came out after I started playing, and I know or damn sure it was seeded in the Outer Rings. Bought one of those in Jita as well.
So people are going to camp gates, BFD, if you're that worried take a T3 with cloak and bubble invulnerability and go get some. If you're worth your salt, all you need is a cov ops, though. Books and BPOs are pretty damn small, afterall. _____________________________ http://twitter.com/krispy_dingo http://krispydingo.com |
Trimutius III
Legio Octae Rebellion Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:15:00 -
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Awesome ship!!! With level 4 tractor will work 68 km... And with level 5 it will be 80 km and 4 times faster speed. It's just great. No need to fly around, most of the missions will be possible to salvage without moving at all... and 1460 cargo is pretty handy... ------------------------------------------------- I am envoy from nowhere in nowhere. Nobody and nothing have sent me. And though it is impossible I exist ¬ Trimutius |
El'essar Viocragh
Minmatar Meltdown Luftfahrttechnik
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:20:00 -
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After consulting with my crystal ball, I see a T2 version of the Noctis with bonuses to gas cloud harvesting in the near future. -- [17:47] <Mephysto> its dead, jim |
Sophie Malaster
Heavy industries Shinohara ARTESANOS
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:20:00 -
[94]
Thx yoy CCP!!! ________________________________________________
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Marconus Orion
D00M. Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:24:00 -
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No turrets or launcher hardpoints.
I was wanting to do some lul high sec pvp with it too...
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:30:00 -
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Very nice, I had the limited edition but, well, it was useless compared to any serious hauler. This is actually usefull for me and gives me an excuse to fly it \o/ Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
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Shosuro Ayame
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:36:00 -
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Edited by: Shosuro Ayame on 18/09/2010 00:42:37
Originally by: Krispy Dingo
Originally by: Shosuro Ayame
Originally by: Krispy Dingo Edited by: Krispy Dingo on 17/09/2010 23:16:05
Originally by: Jade Tranquility Edited by: Jade Tranquility on 17/09/2010 21:32:10 I certainly won't be abandoning my salvage destroyers for this overpriced, useless ship. And until you decide to seed these things in hisec, I'm not sure how many people are going to be dumb enough to go die trying to get it from where you will be offering it. Please start seeding these in hisec, and stop feeding the asshats who live down in outer ring easy kills
Reread the dev blog, they are not seeding SHIPS, the are seeding SKILL BOOKS and BPOs.
People will make the ships wherever they want, transport the skill books to HiSec for a profit, and everything will be just like all the other skills and BPOs seeded in the game.
You missed the point. Getting said books and BPO's are going to be an utter pain in the ass. It's nullsec. It's going to be camped to hell because it's funny making people lose 390mil for every BPO they're trying to get out.
Please tell me you're joking. EVE players must be total pansies now.
Let's see, Hulk, now it did come out before my time, but it is an ORE ship. That means it was seeded in the Outer Rings, right? Bought one for my mining alt in Jita.
Orca, came out after I started playing, and I know or damn sure it was seeded in the Outer Rings. Bought one of those in Jita as well.
So people are going to camp gates, BFD, if you're that worried take a T3 with cloak and bubble invulnerability and go get some. If you're worth your salt, all you need is a cov ops, though. Books and BPOs are pretty damn small, afterall.
You make several assumptions that are pretty hilarious. I was pointing out you missed the point. I don't think someone from null sec is going to worry about it too much. The general populace of Eve doesn't tend to go down there.
Yes. They are wusses.
Not everyone is as venerated as yourself. As for me? Well, yeah, I can walk out there in my cov ops boat, grab some, and then walk back. If I thought it was worth the money. It isn't. Destroyers are very likely going to remain the primary way that the general populace will use to do their salvage. A destroyer with the salvage tackles (cheap and easy to make might I add) and a half awake player putting them together will work just fine.
Get off your money endowed high horse and use some common sense.
Also, Jade was not saying they were seeding ships. Read her post and actually try to understand it.
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Ti'anla
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.18 00:38:00 -
[98]
A thank heavens', I was so afraid the Primae would go to waste.
Thank you! x.x
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EvilPixills
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Posted - 2010.09.18 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: EvilPixills on 18/09/2010 01:41:52
Originally by: Krispy Dingo
Originally by: Shosuro Ayame
Originally by: Krispy Dingo Edited by: Krispy Dingo on 17/09/2010 23:16:05
Originally by: Jade Tranquility Edited by: Jade Tranquility on 17/09/2010 21:32:10 I certainly won't be abandoning my salvage destroyers for this overpriced, useless ship. And until you decide to seed these things in hisec, I'm not sure how many people are going to be dumb enough to go die trying to get it from where you will be offering it. Please start seeding these in hisec, and stop feeding the asshats who live down in outer ring easy kills
Reread the dev blog, they are not seeding SHIPS, the are seeding SKILL BOOKS and BPOs.
People will make the ships wherever they want, transport the skill books to HiSec for a profit, and everything will be just like all the other skills and BPOs seeded in the game.
You missed the point. Getting said books and BPO's are going to be an utter pain in the ass. It's nullsec. It's going to be camped to hell because it's funny making people lose 390mil for every BPO they're trying to get out.
Please tell me you're joking. EVE players must be total pansies now.
Let's see, Hulk, now it did come out before my time, but it is an ORE ship. That means it was seeded in the Outer Rings, right? Bought one for my mining alt in Jita.
Orca, came out after I started playing, and I know or damn sure it was seeded in the Outer Rings. Bought one of those in Jita as well.
So people are going to camp gates, BFD, if you're that worried take a T3 with cloak and bubble invulnerability and go get some. If you're worth your salt, all you need is a cov ops, though. Books and BPOs are pretty damn small, afterall.
Exactly. Any experienced EVE player will know what the consequences are for jumping into null and attempting to come back out with some pricey gear, and any said EVE player will and SHOULD take the necessary precautions in order to be successful. Cloakies are your friend. Grab what you need and wait for the hype to die down, it's that simple.
Props CCP, dig the new texture on the hull as well.
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Arnold Predator
Special Situations
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Posted - 2010.09.18 02:51:00 -
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Originally by: Krispy Dingo So people are going to camp gates, BFD, if you're that worried take a T3 with cloak and bubble invulnerability and go get some.
I will be doing this... its makes null sec a joke to fly in. They can't see/stop me. T3s work great for transporting things out of null/low sec. Granted... using a t3 for a hailer is like driving a Ferrari to deliver the mail. :(
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Fulton Actual
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Posted - 2010.09.18 03:13:00 -
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50m3 Drone Bay!
I completely agree, even a salvage ship should have some minor ability to defend itself.
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LordSwift
Caldari Septem Letifer Venalia
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Posted - 2010.09.18 03:26:00 -
[102]
great ship and all. just one query. Why is the biggest carebear company. i.e ORE based out in outer rings in lawless space? is it just one of those things that was done at the beginning of eve and just forgot about? ------ Be prepared |
Bomberlocks
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.09.18 03:36:00 -
[103]
I just love the fact that the price on this ship is going to make it a prime gank target for griefers, at least in the early, expensive days.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.18 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 17/09/2010 22:26:58
Originally by: Gil Danastre For anyone who can do the math, with bonuses at level 5, what is the speed/range of a tractor beam?
80kmą
ąat 2km/są
(At a far more reasonable lvl IV, you get 68km @į1700m/s)
Yikes! better hope the guys on Tbeam duty are on there tootsies
*.* *.* *.* *.* *.* *.* *.* *.* a (Long) Guide to Pi
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Mega Docent
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Posted - 2010.09.18 04:09:00 -
[105]
Cool! I'm happy.
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Zorraldy
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Posted - 2010.09.18 04:31:00 -
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So will the BPs be seeded for ever or are they limited release? Because it would be sweet if they were only seeded for a month or something.
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Ela Hako
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Posted - 2010.09.18 04:34:00 -
[107]
If you want to play with it in EFT:
http://eve-files.com/dl/229665 Backup your eft\Data\Skills.dat and Ships.dat file and overwrite them with the contents of this file
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.18 06:11:00 -
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Originally by: Krispy Dingo [
Reread the dev blog, they are not seeding SHIPS, the are seeding SKILL BOOKS and BPOs.
People will make the ships wherever they want, transport the skill books to HiSec for a profit, and everything will be just like all the other skills and BPOs seeded in the game.
Exactly. Unless the ORE industrial skillbook is available outside of ORE stations the problem will not be getting the hull, a couple of weeks and we will get it in Jita at bargain cost (lacking the ME research, granted), but the skillbooks.
If those need to be imported from Outer Ring the overhead will be fairly large.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.09.18 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Krispy Dingo [
Reread the dev blog, they are not seeding SHIPS, the are seeding SKILL BOOKS and BPOs.
People will make the ships wherever they want, transport the skill books to HiSec for a profit, and everything will be just like all the other skills and BPOs seeded in the game.
Exactly. Unless the ORE industrial skillbook is available outside of ORE stations the problem will not be getting the hull, a couple of weeks and we will get it in Jita at bargain cost (lacking the ME research, granted), but the skillbooks.
If those need to be imported from Outer Ring the overhead will be fairly large.
Why would that be the case? Skill books have the same low volume as BPOs, so if you can easily get one of the items to highsec you can get the other the same way.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.09.18 06:41:00 -
[110]
Edited by: Venkul Mul on 18/09/2010 06:41:35
Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Krispy Dingo [
Reread the dev blog, they are not seeding SHIPS, the are seeding SKILL BOOKS and BPOs.
People will make the ships wherever they want, transport the skill books to HiSec for a profit, and everything will be just like all the other skills and BPOs seeded in the game.
Exactly. Unless the ORE industrial skillbook is available outside of ORE stations the problem will not be getting the hull, a couple of weeks and we will get it in Jita at bargain cost (lacking the ME research, granted), but the skillbooks.
If those need to be imported from Outer Ring the overhead will be fairly large.
Why would that be the case? Skill books have the same low volume as BPOs, so if you can easily get one of the items to highsec you can get the other the same way.
1 BPO can produce infinite amounts of ships, at the speed of 7,2/day with a unresearched BPO and a character with no PE. As soon as some hundred are in high sec and producing market will be saturated.
1 skill book can be used by 1 character. Period.
Seem fairly easy to grasp why the ship will have a small surcharge and the book a large one.
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Akira Yamasara
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Posted - 2010.09.18 07:43:00 -
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Do i see correctly that no turret hardpoints are there?.. such a shame,.. would be great if it could fit gascloud harvesters as well.. then the ship could fill 2 dedicated roles. Maybe increase the CPU a bit so it can fit 5 GCH-II's ?
Any chance of looking into that pls pls pls ???
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Erik Finnegan
Gallente Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2010.09.18 07:48:00 -
[112]
Applause, applause, applause... |
Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.09.18 08:20:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 18/09/2010 08:23:19 10 max locked targets... better train that Multitasking skill now!
Originally by: Ela Hako If you want to play with it in EFT:
http://eve-files.com/dl/229665 Backup your eft\Data\Skills.dat and Ships.dat file and overwrite them with the contents of this file
Doesn't work for me, EFT says "Invalid floating point operation" when I try to create a new setup, and then shows no slots.
How is it with cap stability? The 5% bonus to cycle time will also make tractors eat more cap over time. 155 m/s unmodified speed seems kinda low, that's about battleship level. This will be especially annoying in missions or plexes with several gates. Could it run a MWD for a reasonable period of time?
Also, last point, remove the stupid tractor beam restrictions. I want to loot the battlefield! ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real! |
Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.09.18 09:31:00 -
[114]
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Sgt Blade Very awesome, although if these BPO's are only in Outer Ring then I expect those stations to be camped like hell for a few days after release
Yeah, I'm kinda assuming that anyone with 390m to spend will be able to work out for themselves that OR will be gank city on day 1
Quotes like this proves how out-of-touch the developers are with the playerbase...
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Xaeltis
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Posted - 2010.09.18 09:44:00 -
[115]
CCP, you're a godsend.
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T'san Manaan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.18 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
Originally by: CCP Greyscale
Originally by: Sgt Blade Very awesome, although if these BPO's are only in Outer Ring then I expect those stations to be camped like hell for a few days after release
Yeah, I'm kinda assuming that anyone with 390m to spend will be able to work out for themselves that OR will be gank city on day 1
Quotes like this proves how out-of-touch the developers are with the playerbase...
Wow, I made the exact opposite conclusion from that statement. If you canĘt figure out how to get through a few gate camps hauling some BPOs and Skillbooks you don't deserve the profit anyways. Wait a few weeks until the high-sec market is flooded and stabilizes then you can get your risk free BPO and skills at a slightly higher price.
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Tharill daSai
Caldari Serringer Arms Inc Free United Spirits
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Posted - 2010.09.18 10:39:00 -
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Typically, just after I purchased the skills for my to become Salvaging alt to fly the Hurricane.
Yay, want now, pretty please
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Spacing Cowboy
Caldari Rule of Five Lucky Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.09.18 10:46:00 -
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Edited by: Spacing Cowboy on 18/09/2010 10:47:26 If they seed it in 0.0 , couple of DT runs will solve the problem of getting the books and bpo ,
Nice profit$ can be made for the daring / skilled, the one's who don't want to risk it , will be happy to pay a premium for those.
But, my guess is, they will also seed them in highsec like the crystals/mods/orca
* starts up jumpplanner *
ninja edit, great move of releasing this ship, love it.
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Jowen Datloran
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.09.18 11:06:00 -
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Very nice to see a non-combat orientated ship being released. Considering the ratio between combat and non-combat ships and the amount of non-combat related occupations I feel there is plenty of room for more "civilian" types of ships.
-- Mr. Science & Trade Institute - EVE Lorebook - Mysteries of W-space |
Mel'zor
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Posted - 2010.09.18 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Mel''zor on 18/09/2010 11:10:44 Awezome!! We want more ORE Industrial Ships
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