Nice dodge.

Thanks for taking the time to contribute to the thread. At least I can presume you will now GTFO yourself

I can do whatever the **** I want!

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Deep_Space_Scanner_Probe_I

Again, deep space is not the same aa nul sec. If it was, these probes would be limited to nul/wormhole only much like interdictor probes.

Deep space is any area of space outside the bounds of a planet's gravitational influence. You have deep space pockets all over, including grav sites where one could mine.

[quote=Taranius De Consolville]Also in response if the Exhumers had not how did you put it?

1. I do not partake in suicide ganking.

2. How can CCP implement forced game rules on elements of gameplay that were 'not indended'? That is possibly the most dim-witted sentiment I have read on these forums in some time.

Also in response if the Exhumers had not how did you put it?

CLEARLY NOT MEANT FOR HIGH SEC

They would banned from flying in 0.5 an above

Your another troll PVP pilot who is actually gonna have to use expensive ships to play your Hulkageddon

lolz no?

I'm not concerned with the actual changes CCP are making to these ships but the thought process that goes behind it and it's ramifications for the game as a whole. CCP are catering to the casual players and in doing so are turning New Eden from a dark and consequence filled universe to that of a hand-holding nanny state.

If you don't partake in ganking then why are you concerned about the mining barges being adapted to resist being ganked.

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Griefers are the biggest whiners, period.

ORE Sales Rep: The miners are asking when we're going to update our barges?

ORE Engineer: What do you mean... they're awesome as is... they should learn to fit them properly.

Rep: All new orders we're getting in are for fittings with shield extenders, but we're getting fewer orders. I'm looking at sales projections that say we could sell more, for a slightly higher price if we tweaked the next model year a bit.

Engineer: Why would they be tanking those things?

Rep: You really don't read the news, do you... There's this new thing that some of the null alliances have been sponsoring. Capsuleers fly into high sec, blow up one of our barges for kicks fully knowing that Concord is going to carve their pod out.

Engineer: Seriously? Why would they want to blow up such beautifully crafted machines? I mean, they don't harm a fly. They rip through asteroids, but not flies...

Rep: Look, all I'm saying is there's a market demand for a tankier barge. Especially after those new model destroyers and those freaky new battlecruisers that run big guns. We don't have to do anything crazy to our barges, just beef 'em up a bit. They'll sell like Veld Cakes, seriously.

Engineer: OK, let me see what I can cook up.

Oh now - that's the beauty of this game. I can do whatever the **** I want! If someone tries to take that away I will try and make their little worthless lives as miserably as possible. You see out their in the RL if someone takes my sundae from the fridge I don't just go another one - I buy another one and I put in their just before the exams start - here's the kicker - I put so much laxative in it, that someone will be shitting their bed for a week. Of course this is just stage 1 of me being angry out of 100.

And I am contributing more to this thread than you are, because if you look back, that nonsense you wasted pixels on is not worth anyone time. So how about you gather your toys and let the big boys play their space ship game? What do ya say sport?

If you don't partake in ganking then why are you concerned about the mining barges being adapted to resist being ganked.

Those grav sites are within 4au of a celestial and not in deep space.

You nailed the problem.
CCP adapted the barges to suicide ganking instead of the players.
That's what he think is wrong.

1 au is 149,598,000 km.
4 au is 598,392,000 km.


For a typical planet of mass 5.972x10^24 kg, to reach the point where gravity is one-millioth that as it would be, one has to travel 6,370,000 km, far less than even 1 au.

Now for a gas giant, the pull would be out to 2,025,660,000, well further than 4au. However, 4au can still be deep space depending on the mass if the planet in question.

CCP adapted the barges to suicide ganking instead of the players.
That's what he think is wrong.

I've *heard* that the hulk is getting a bit of a buff. I don't think that should have happened. But what I've seen suggests you might need one more destroyer to gank them than before...so let's not give the miners tears to gloat about.

I'm fully in favor of the skiff change as a replacement to mining battleships. The retriever/mackinaw changes I haven't seen enough information on to really make a judgment.

Untanked hulks are squishy now.

Untanked hulks will be squishy after the patch.

I fail to see the problem.

edit: Oh right, some people actually think they're going to give up yield in favor of tank. They've always had that option, and have never taken it.

I believe CCP start to act when they lose money. Most likely hulkageddon ended up with few thousands unsubscribed mining alts accounts ($15 * 12 months * 1000 accounts = $200.000 per year) - thus necessary change to please miners and return these subscriptions.

They were never intended to be used in high sec anyway.

I'm not concerned with the actual changes CCP are making to these ships but the thought process that goes behind it and it's ramifications for the game as a whole. CCP are catering to the casual players and in doing so are turning New Eden from a dark and consequence filled universe to that of a hand-holding nanny state.







Clearly they were not intended for the starter systems which comprise high-sec empire.

Thank you for confirming the new quotes cleverly remove any reference to their original intended use in 'deep space'.

A new gas ship could freshen up the industry but how am I supposed to roleplay a miner, out on the limits of civilised space, bashing my ship with giant wrenches to keep it going and chewing on ore, evading space pirates if my ship is all heavily tanked.

It's not meant to be a combat vessel, a Thrasher is. Hulks also have a far superior tank to a Thrasher.

I believe CCP start to act when they lose money. Most likely hulkageddon ended up with few thousands unsubscribed mining alts accounts ($15 * 12 months * 1000 accounts = $180.000 per year) - thus necessary change to please miners and return these subscriptions.

Nice quoting. Let me join in.

They were never intended to be used in high sec anyway.

dangers of deep space