then the engineer says "alright, here's a new design that is far more resilient but it can't mine much and well we're going to have to put a half-billion price tag on it because R&D ain't free"

also lol you think you buy hulks from npcs

I don't think he "dodged" anything...I think he put the facts right in your face. Stuck it right in. In fact, one could say that you and all of the "weak-tanked trolls" in this thread got ganked. Should have fit a damage control 2 on your pie hole.

LoL

So ever ship that is more resilient is not designed for High Sec. Like saying an SUV is designed for off road so you should not drive it on roads.

The guys who buy the ship decide what it is intended for.

So, I just bought a Sabre, I intend to use it to bubble warbears camping the Rens undock

edit: I thought you said "The guys who buy the ship decide what it is intended for.", dictor bubbles can't be used outside of 0.0, you lied

He said ship, not mod. You can fly your saber in hi sec, no one is stopping you. You should have suggested a carrier or dread to make your point.

so I'm choosing to read this as "disable strip miners in highsec"

So, I just bought a Sabre, I intend to use it to bubble warbears camping the Rens undock

edit: I thought you said "The guys who buy the ship decide what it is intended for.", dictor bubbles can't be used outside of 0.0, you lied

Many miners did not tank their Hulks for a simple reason: Tanking a piece of tissue paper leaves you with a slightly stronger piece of tissue paper. If the gankers come for you, you still die. Best to have a cheap fit, maximize the yield, and hope you make enough money before it dies.

The new stats means it actually makes sense to add a tank. So many now will.

Feel free to point out any high sec suicide gank I have taken part in, because I don't recall ever having done so. Thanks for proving how worthless your opinion is since you are incapable of posting objectively.
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The guys who buy the ship decide what it is intended for.

LoL

So ever ship that is more resilient is not designed for High Sec. Like saying an SUV is designed for off road so you should not drive it on roads.

The guys who buy the ship decide what it is intended for.

Feel free to point out any high sec suicide gank I have taken part in, because I don't recall ever having done so.

Objective enough?

ROFL

ok by that reasoning you can put guns on a Rorq and go kick someones ass because you decide what the ships does. All those role bonuses and skill effects are just suggestions.

ROFL

ok by that reasoning you can put guns on a Rorq and go kick someones ass because you decide what the ships does. All those role bonuses and skill effects are just suggestions.

They were never intended to be used in high sec anyway.

I'm not concerned with the actual changes CCP are making to these ships but the thought process that goes behind it and it's ramifications for the game as a whole. CCP are catering to the casual players and in doing so are turning New Eden from a dark and consequence filled universe to that of a hand-holding nanny state.







Clearly they were not intended for the starter systems which comprise high-sec empire.

Please stop reminding Spank what an awful poster he is. He hasn't responded to this thread in pages and I think you may have scared him away. However, do feel free to continue poking holes in his terrible excuse for an argument.

Thank you for confirming the new quotes cleverly remove any reference to their original intended use in 'deep space'.

I'm still surprised that high-sec miners never actually adapted to all the suicide ganging and simply carried on getting themselves killed but I suppose that says more about society and their senses of entitlement than it does about internet spaceships.

I have never been suicide ganked even once, I don't know how other people make such big targets of themselves and then expect to have a right to complain.

The reason suicide ganking exists is the unrealistic outcome of insurance pay outs. Not even in a fantasy distant future would anyone pay an insurance claim of someone who committed a crime and lost his ship in the process, its stupid. All CCP needed to do was invalidate insurance if you are blown up by concord if they are so concerned about sucide ganking.

then the engineer says "alright, here's a new design that is far more resilient but it can't mine much and well we're going to have to put a half-billion price tag on it because R&D ain't free"

Insurance for Suicide Gankers has been removed since Crucible.