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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:07:00 -
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Take them out of the game - they're the most obvious result of the "ore distribution" rip-off for new upcoming members.
I doubt anyone will contradict me when I say the corps who own/produce battleships did so on the back of a gluttony of bist/ark in the early stages.
Taking battleships out of the game will produce much better balance and warfare.
It is also much too soon for battleships. At this rate, titans, the uber-ship of the game (apparently) will be available in 2 weeks. Not much to do after that, is there?
Except podkill and grief.
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Gauss
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:23:00 -
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I'd just like to say that moo is doing their part to address this issue. We took out the first battleship a week ago, and we took out the second one just today.
gauss moo
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:23:00 -
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<sarcasm> Please Joshua, do not ruin my plans becoming a psychopathic serial killer in a battleship doing 4000 damage in 2 seconds to every cruiser driver and not losing any sec rating (from 10.0) doing it in 0.4 space. </sarcasm>
Right now we have a 2 class society in EVE. And it's CCP's fault.
Those selling Tritanium - Noxcium and those selling Zydrine - Megacyte. Of course the prices for Mexallon - Isogen are not as good as the prices for Zydrine - Megacyte are.
Disclaimer: I am not complaining, I know where to mine Bistot and I am able to get a BS by myself. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 13/02/2004 18:02:26
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:27:00 -
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Molly, my fluffy little helldemon, I really do think you're cool.
Wanna make a new corp and kick n00b ass in Duripant?
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:31:00 -
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TerraDyne Syndicate obtained our first battleship BP last night, namely a Tempest. The first Minmatar BB to be purchased and only the second lvl 2 BB out there as far as we are aware.
As CEO I can safely say that I am pretty sur eI know where our cash came from and it certainly wasn't from Arkanor and Bistot. The vast majority of the cash (like 90% of it) came from manufacturing and trading. We were making up to 60 million ISK per day right up until yesterday when we made the final 68 mil we needed and bought the BP.
So I have no idea what your beef is. Why don;t you stop shirking and go out there to WORK for your ISK instead of ****ing on everyone else's parade?
Sabahl CEO TerraDyne Syndicate
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The Wretch
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:35:00 -
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"60 million ISK per day"
Nice work.
The Wretch Cyberdyne Systems CEO
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:40:00 -
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Thank you for the important update.
Who are you, anyway?
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:41:00 -
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Congratulations Sabahl. Use your new power with wisdom. Unlike some other individuals / parties. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.28 23:47:00 -
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Alright, I'll take back the statement regarding BB-producing corps getting a better game due to the early ore distribution, but I still think they are available much too early.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2003.06.29 00:04:00 -
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It's my belief that construction platforms for both stations, depots, and sentry guns should have been available before battleships. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |

Main
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Posted - 2003.06.29 00:23:00 -
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Right you stupid little **** joshua, i don't know about anyone else corporation but at the moment i have been mining for days and days and days worth of bistot and crokite for my battleship.
If you don't like me in my battleship when i get it, i suggest you come find me and tell me face to face, if not, **** off and mind your own business. Main Everlasting Vendetta Veteran Member of the Stain Alliance |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.29 00:28:00 -
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Main stop trolling. Battleships are too strong in comparison to high end cruisers with good defense systems. That's all. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Setec
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Posted - 2003.06.29 00:28:00 -
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Someone has to be a little bit wrong in the head to think that removing battleships from the game is actually a good idea. You've gotta be a few trit short of an asteroid for that one... ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

KrapYl
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Posted - 2003.06.29 01:42:00 -
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Molly ffs... try different stuff than flying around in ur turd with what ever frig guns u have ? ... couple days ago, 2 cruisers cleared the Passari->Mara gate... i dont know if there was 1 or 2 battleships there, but 2 cruisers made 1 battleship run atleast... try www.tti-nexus.com... look for some items... or go around to the different regions, and kill its pirates... ull find funny stuff... that can do amazing things.. ull just have to be very very carefull, cause if u make 1 mistake, ur have to start over ;D (j0rt has said he takes 0.9 seonds to target, u have to be faster, and activated atleast 2 items before he gets that lock on u.. )
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.29 01:47:00 -
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Smart ass. I was flying a Thorax with good shield skills, some nice shield boosters and modulators and a lot of power grid units and some 425mm Dual Scouts and got blown by a BS in 2 seconds. And I have had some PvP experience. If you cant jump or escape via MWD / warp then you are dead.
4000 damage in 2 seconds.
It's not about attacking a BS, it's about staying alive.
Period. EOD! ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.06.29 02:22:00 -
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Well one of the things I've been mulling over is why not make cruiser+ weapons recycle before firing the first shot? ie, if your gun has an 8 second RoF, your first shot is fired 8 seconds after activating it?
These aren't pistols after all. One would think there would be some delay between the command to fire and actually firing on large bore weapons...
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

KrapYl
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Posted - 2003.06.29 02:33:00 -
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u wanna stay alive ? try c5 shield, and 2 V-m15(i tihkn) multishields (-40%damage)... then u might make it thru second round of fire.. :P
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2003.06.29 02:44:00 -
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Jash, nice idea... that would be nice.. and also the ability to drop out 20/50/100km from target(stolen from a brilliant guy i cant remember the name of)... so u could avoid this "the way to fit ur ship"... dont drop at 20km, and then have 5 seconds to do a 180 turn, and get out on ur favorite 40km range...
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.06.29 05:50:00 -
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"Battleships are too strong in comparison to high end cruisers with good defense systems. That's all."
Seriously now, you telling me you want your high end cruiser to go 1 on 1 with a battleship on even grounds? You got to be ****ting me. Of course a battleship is supposed to totally overwhelm and overpower a cruiser. Lets have a humvee with a machine gun blow the **** out of a tank. The idea is to work in groups and attack the battleship with 5 cruisers or so to take him out. How hard is that for you to understand.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.29 05:55:00 -
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How hard is it for you to actually read a post?
I'll quote for you what I've written in the same post from where you quoted me:
"It's not about attacking a BS, it's about staying alive."
Need still some help? ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

SISQO
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Posted - 2003.06.29 05:58:00 -
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Ever heard of target jammers? Its not that hard to jam a battleship since a top end BS only has 14 points.
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.29 06:00:00 -
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Just meet one, get wasted and we talk again. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Babsy
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Posted - 2003.06.29 06:03:00 -
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battleships shouldn't be in the game yet period
at least not for another 90 days, oo 3 months more you say for a battleship....
this game isn't really n00b friendly if this is the way it will stay. CCP must add more oportunity for everyone.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.29 06:50:00 -
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I'll see you in Passari, Main :)
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KrapYl
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Posted - 2003.06.29 07:38:00 -
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"battleships shouldn't be in the game yet period" "CCP must add more oportunity for everyone"
how is removing things going to add anything ?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.06.29 08:39:00 -
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Cruiser battle is already too short - how much shorter is it going to be with battleships fighting each other?
I dread to think of Titans being available within 3 months of the day of release - especially if you've paid for a 6-month subscription to a game where you've done everything in half that time.
What CCP should've done is keep things at cruiser-level for now (with the odd pirate battleship in the megacyte-holding asteroids) and spent time balancing the modules etc BEFORE introducing PC battleships.
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Karsa Orlong
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Posted - 2003.06.29 09:48:00 -
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You guys are missing a large issue, that of Surgical Strike adding a modifier into modules. This is fixed on Monday *hopefully*, Pvp until then is a battle of the exploiters. I'm not saying battles will not be over in seconds after Monday's patch, but the insane damage modification should be.
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Main
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Posted - 2003.06.29 09:58:00 -
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To molly, joshua and everyone else, battleships are in game, live with it, trolling? trolling is posting useless things i.e. whining about battleships being too powerful.
Let me think...hmmm...aren't battleships supposed to be powerful?
There are many ways that a cruiser could beat a battleship, all you have to do is outsmart it, not outgun it. Jam it radar and it's warp drive and then start shooting, i recommend the torpedoes and cruise missiles.
And to everyone asking for the removal of battleships? What happens to everyone who just spent 600,000,000 credits on a blueprint or 150,000,000 on a dominix or scorpion? ? ? ? ? Main Everlasting Vendetta Veteran Member of the Stain Alliance |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.06.29 10:07:00 -
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It's not about beating the damn battleship.
ALL I DO IS ASKING FOR A CHANCE TO ESCAPE and you turn it around into beating a battleship.
You do not have many options once you are locked by a battleship. And the reaction window is just too small. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |
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