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Hesperius Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.10.01 20:23:00 - [91] Originally by: Wyke Mossari _ Do you really think CCP would buff high sec by putting what will probably be a 4-10 billion isk BPC dropping? They did say it was a BPC that would drop, so I am not sure where you got the information it wasn't. Most important, it is said to be a mothership, not a super carrier, and most definitely the Sansha Nation has not building a high sec freighter, ever. The question is if the Mothership is the "Hive" ship, or if someone at CCP just made an error and it is in fact a faction super carrier?
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2010.10.03 22:38:00 - [92] Originally by: Hesperius Do you really think CCP would buff high sec by putting what will probably be a 4-10 billion isk BPC dropping? They did say it was a BPC that would drop, so I am not sure where you got the information it wasn't. Most important, it is said to be a mothership, not a super carrier, and most definitely the Sansha Nation has not building a high sec freighter, ever. The question is if the Mothership is the "Hive" ship, or if someone at CCP just made an error and it is in fact a faction super carrier? From what I've read it's going to be a mothership... but it's roll has not been specified. I was looking through threads on hive ships a while back... not sure if they would try to make one for this. What was CCPs original idea for a mothership? Does anyone know if they have talked about the concept before? ------------------------------------ "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
IloveRickAstley	Posted - 2010.10.03 23:25:00 - [93] This is the dumbest idea ever. Get all these random people together to kill some big spaceship that drops some super expensive bpc that the first person to loot the can gets. I hope there are *******s that fit snipers with all sensor boosters and snipe the can each time. Or else make it like wow where everyone gets to roll a dice 1-100 HAHAHAHA!
Rakshasa Taisab Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.10.04 01:44:00 - [94] Originally by: IloveRickAstley This is the dumbest idea ever. Get all these random people together to kill some big spaceship that drops some super expensive bpc that the first person to loot the can gets. I hope there are *****s that fit snipers with all sensor boosters and snipe the can each time. Or else make it like wow where everyone gets to roll a dice 1-100 HAHAHAHA! Yeah, right, like a bunch of random **tards with no fleet discipline will be able to run the site.
Kezzle	Posted - 2010.10.04 09:25:00 - [95] Originally by: Kickin Urass Originally by: Slade Hoo ZOMG! IT'S A RAIDBOSS! This was my first thought as well: Its a PvE "open" raid .... I certainly hope they've thought this through, especially if its going to take place in low/null sec. If it does, its likely to devolve into a "King of the Hill" lag fest. At least CCP will know well in advance which node to reinforce. If they want, they can use some sort of game mechanic to limit the number/tonnage of ships in the system: the Sansha Mom could cyno jam when it arrives, and some sort of 'fluence over the gates (or the sheer overload volume of transits) could limit arrivals by conventional means. "Loot distribution" from the wreck is liable to be purely an initial allocation, and the prelude to the recipient (and their mates) getting ganked to pieces.
Sierra X117	Posted - 2010.10.04 19:54:00 - [96] i wasn't sure if those images were real or not, so i looked into it... :P this isn't even a leak, it is packed right into the files of the new SISI client :) theres the mothership/super carrier Linkage and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...) Linkage oh and heres the fighter bomber, (im assuming as well, from the naming convention Sansha.Fighter.Bomber "SFB1.gr2") Linkage so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :) i want that mother ship :D
Devoyd	Posted - 2010.10.04 20:02:00 - [97] Edited by: Devoyd on 04/10/2010 20:03:21 Originally by: Sierra X117 i wasn't sure if those images were real or not, so i looked into it... :P this isn't even a leak, it is packed right into the files of the new SISI client :) theres the mothership/super carrier Linkage and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...) Linkage oh and heres the fighter bomber, (im assuming as well, from the naming convention Sansha.Fighter.Bomber "SFB1.gr2") Linkage i want that mother ship :D Whoa...that mothership looks....like someone ate too much corn before taking a dump. That second ship is a standard sansha fighter, I've seen them everywhere in Amarr space.
Jacob Holland Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries	Posted - 2010.10.04 20:47:00 - [98] I quite like the Mothership - It's difficult to get a sense of scale without the textures but given the spikes around the nose... Yes, they could have stuck spikes all over it but moderation is preferable to GW syndrome (stick spikes on it and dip it in red paint and it's Khornate, dip it in glue and paint it green and Nurgle is the patron...). And I'm wondering whether I see a little Eidelon in its genes... I should imagine that, given the need to strip out the outlying ships first, CCP have scaled around Battleships and will take measures to ensure noone brings in a triage carrier to tank everything...etc. My guess would be that they'll simply have the mothership sitting in a deadspace pocket, preventing cynos, assigned fighters...etc. -- Originally by: cordy Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2010.10.06 20:54:00 - [99] Originally by: Sierra X117 and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...) Linkage so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :) i want that mother ship :D oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there! http://www.gogela.com/eve/info.php Although I should put forth a small suggestion... since they are giving us a faction bomber, this may very well be a faction fighter. I got thinking the bombers they gave us were going to be pilot-able when I first saw the rough models... ------------------------------------ "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2010.10.06 21:00:00 - [100] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40 Originally by: Gogela Originally by: Sierra X117 and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...) Linkage so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :) i want that mother ship :D oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there! Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years.
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2010.10.06 21:07:00 - [101] Edited by: Gogela on 06/10/2010 21:12:51 Hmmm... yah I just looked it up and got this: I still want one in my hanger.... ------------------------------------ "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
Sierra X117	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:10:00 - [102] Edited by: Sierra X117 on 09/10/2010 03:13:10 Edited by: Sierra X117 on 09/10/2010 03:12:39 Originally by: Gogela ] oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there! http://www.gogela.com/eve/info.php Although I should put forth a small suggestion... since they are giving us a faction bomber, this may very well be a faction fighter. I got thinking the bombers they gave us were going to be pilot-able when I first saw the rough models... well no, you wouldn't have seen it on tranquility I'm pulling everything of the SIS client files. as for the fighter,i cant seem to find one on the current SISI build, but might not be finished/added to SISI, so my hopes are still up :) and as for the frigate: I hang out in 0.0 space and caldari... so haven't seen em around i assumed it was new as I had only seen the succubus in missions, never that thing :P
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2010.10.11 18:22:00 - [103] I think it's interesting that CCP Oveur, when talking about the new sansha ships that will be introduced in the expansion, did in fact say "shipS" ------------------------------------ "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."
Matthias Howe Amarr	Posted - 2010.10.11 19:55:00 - [104] Wooo doggy that Sansha super carrier thing fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
Tuttomenui II Gallente Buddha Pigs	Posted - 2010.10.11 23:16:00 - [105] Originally by: Matthias Howe Wooo doggy that Sansha super carrier thing fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. I think it hit a few diseased monkeys also in the process. !ALL YOUR ROOKIES ARE BELONG TO ME!
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.10.12 01:24:00 - [106] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 12/10/2010 01:25:10 Originally by: Hesperius Do you really think CCP would buff high sec by putting what will probably be a 4-10 billion isk BPC dropping? After years of buffing lowsec and 0.0 in failed attempts to lure more hisec people there, i kinda did. This will likely fail to do that too, yet they'll remain convinced they just have to keep buffing them and next time it will work. As long as gate bottlenecks and the easymode PvP they bring exist, they can put whatever they want there and people still won't bother. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Grideris Gallente Fleet Coordination Commission	Posted - 2010.10.12 03:08:00 - [107] The new frigate that you linked is an addition to the incursion feature. It's a Torpedo bomber (not a stealth bomber) and it does a crap load of damage.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2010.10.12 06:59:00 - [108] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40 Originally by: Gogela Originally by: Sierra X117 and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...) Linkage so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :) i want that mother ship :D oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there! Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years. It's the Succubus, a Sansha frigate, used by NPCs. ___________ EVE is dying! Now for real!
Cobalt Sixty Caldari Invictus Australis BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.10.12 07:18:00 - [109] Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40 Originally by: Gogela Originally by: Sierra X117 and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...) Linkage so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :) i want that mother ship :D oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there! Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years. It's the Succubus, a Sansha frigate, used by NPCs. Cute use of the meme, but that isn't a Succubus. From memory the information box often described the NPC version as an Interceptor class Frigate - my fingers are crossed for a rival to the Dramiel.
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.10.12 11:44:00 - [110] Just a thought how they could limit numbers to the pve content which would fit with eve, with Sansha created 'wormholes' as gates, so they collapse/destabilise after certain number/mass jumped through. Could mean your mates couldn't warp out and back though as they'd be faced with the same destabilised gate. Would also mean you could lock other players out from bothering you in it which would suck.
Brian Ballsack	Posted - 2010.10.12 13:12:00 - [111] Its going to be a supercarrier. Mothership or MOM was and is used when talking about a supercarrier by alot of people.
Drachiel Mercury LLC	Posted - 2010.10.12 15:30:00 - [112] I, personally, cannot wait to fit my triple sensor boosted Zealot, cloak off of a big Incursion, decloak as the Sansha mom is going down, and turn the wreck into dust with my lasers before anybody loots it. D.
Jim Lovell Gallente Jotunheimr Productions Ltd. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.10.13 23:50:00 - [113] Originally by: Abdiel Kavash Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40 Originally by: Gogela Originally by: Sierra X117 and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...) Linkage so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :) i want that mother ship :D oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there! Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years. It's the Succubus, a Sansha frigate, used by NPCs. That frig is a very old sansha frig thats been around since year 1, its not the succubus but another sansha frig you can see them in complexes etc , but there undoubtly will be new sansha frig, cruiser and BS , the frig bpc dropping from the 7-10 man plex, the cruiser from the nest one up and i guess BS from the 20-40 man plex, and also a small chance to drop in the middle tier one and the mothership haveing only a rare chance id say to drop of a certain namemd commander in the top lvl plex, but im just speculating!
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.10.13 23:54:00 - [114] So we have angel and gurista pirate arcs( but ccp failed to deliver the rest) rest assured incursions will go in and we never will get the other factions as simple as that Appears t3 mods frigs and destroyers are off the menu as are comets oh well if they say something at fanfest go yeah right do it
Eyeama Spy	Posted - 2010.10.14 10:19:00 - [115] Tit bits i heard re expansion mechanics; 1: incursions will occour in all sec types, high low and null sec, just high sec ones will be easyest, null sec hardest. 2: everyone takeing part gets rewards,(except remote reppers) as rewards are based on damage points inflicted...think of it as each damage point inflicted = a LP point for use in sancha incursion LP store (possably to be found in concord stations). I suspect that this will result in a drop in sancha frigate and cruiser prices unless ballance is given very careful consideration. 3: 'supercarrier/mothership' bpc will be a reward....it will be a lot cheeper in RP then an equivalent supercarrier, however being a faction ship it is a lot more skill intensive to use. Actual values are the matter for ballancing atm. 4: some ccp staff members are pressing for devs to be able to partake in sancha incursions in any ship class present, as it will allow them to have a better view on combat machanics and ballance issues.
JS LiamElms Gallente Zor Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.10.14 12:43:00 - [116] Edited by: JS LiamElms on 14/10/2010 12:47:59 Originally by: JennyD Actualy the reason for this is that PL are bored with hotdropping lone bs in lo-sec with SC fleets. for you sir... PL SANSHA CARRIER as for the sansha supercarrier, this was pulled from sisi 2 days ago SANSHA SUPERCARRIER compared with aeon you can see the size at this time AEON/SANSHA and yesterdays patch, they have increased the size, and the skin is half complete DEVELOPMENT 14 Oct pov the base should have spikes that are huge tbh!
Grozen Caldari Titan Core	Posted - 2010.10.14 13:07:00 - [117] i hate to say it but the ship looks like a large poop knowledge is power
Arthur Frayn V.O.F.L IRON CORE H E L I C O N	Posted - 2010.10.14 14:14:00 - [118] Despite the fecal appearance, I'd say we have the winner for what will become the most valuable single objects in Eve for the forseeable future. Far more valuable than even the state/imperial/tribal/federate issue battleships. -- Eventus stultorum magister.
Matt Douglass	Posted - 2010.10.14 14:45:00 - [119] Originally by: Gogela Some guy posted these models of the new sansha ships: "Mothership" Sansha Fighter/Bomber That mothership seriously looks like something my dog shat out this mornin'.
Gogela Freeport Exploration	Posted - 2010.10.18 22:00:00 - [120] Originally by: Arthur Frayn Despite the fecal appearance, I'd say we have the winner for what will become the most valuable single objects in Eve for the forseeable future. Far more valuable than even the state/imperial/tribal/federate issue battleships. That is unlikely to be the case. Even a titan BPC is only worth about 8 bil tops... and this mothership is not a "unique" item, since more will be showing up in game all the time. That said, I'm sure it won't get 'cheap' for quite some time... ------------------------------------ "A hungry man will tell you anything if you give him a cookie."

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