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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Gogela on 21/09/2010 20:22:07
Does anyone know anything about this yet? Questions I have:
 1) Did they mean to say "Super Carrier".... or is this a new class of ship?
2) Is this a drop item from fighting with Sansha or is it something you get at an LP store?
3) Are we sure we can even fly them, or is this an event-staff ship only?
4) Sanshas only, or will there be Domination, Serp, and Gurristas variants as well?
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Salzeen
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:23:00 -
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yes
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Azrakadar
Minmatar
The Nietzsche Followers
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:24:00 -
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My guesses are:
1 - They meant supercarrier (whoops)
2 - You'll probably get the BP the same way you get BPs for the other Sansha vessels; although CCP could surprise people on this!.
3 - If they put the info where they did, we'll be able to fly it.
4 - Sanshas only.
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Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Salzeen
yes
^correct
Originally by: Redshift XIII
Something tells me this guy wouldn't approve of my rocketcane :(
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:31:00 -
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Some guy posted these models of the new sansha ships:
"Mothership"
Sansha Fighter/Bomber
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:37:00 -
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1) I believe they meant mothership. CCP said they wanted a Mothership class, but weren't happy with what are now Supercarriers. They've said Sansha Mothership on more than one occasion now, so I assume it's actually a ~mothership~.
2) BPCs can drop from fighting Incursions.
3) Yes we can fly them.
4) Sanshas only this expansion (at least so far that we've heard of), I expect more to come SoonÖ.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:47:00 -
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Quote:
By far, the most exciting new feature of this expansion is what CCP is calling "incursions" -- invasions into constellations that will require the dedicated efforts of players to repel. These incursions will be led by the zombie-like Sansha and are expected to take a week or more to defeat. What's surprising is that incursions are largely intended to be a cooperative PvE experience in a notoriously PvP game, although competing corps may butt heads while attempting to be heroic. The incursions will happen all over the galaxy and will be clearly marked on the map. At that point, teams of five to 40 can group up and take the fight to the stars. The ultimate goal of incursions is to defeat the mothership at the core, although it's nothing less than suicide to make a beeline for this ship right away. If players don't pick off the outer ring of ships -- and thus weaken the fleet's defenses -- their ships will be weakened if they decide to attack the mothership. If the mothership goes kablooey, then ISK and loyalty points will be had by all, in addition to the brand-new blueprints to said defeated mothership. One nice aspect of incursions is that if you can only participate in part of the fight, you'll still get rewarded once it's finished, even if you're not present. Incursions are somewhat different to the EVE universe than other parts of the game, which is CCP's desire. Hopefully, the incursions will be a great source of repeating content.
Taken from Massively
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Alt Tabbed
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gogela
Quote:
By far, the most exciting new feature of this expansion is what CCP is calling "incursions" -- invasions into constellations that will require the dedicated efforts of players to repel. These incursions will be led by the zombie-like Sansha and are expected to take a week or more to defeat. What's surprising is that incursions are largely intended to be a cooperative PvE experience in a notoriously PvP game, although competing corps may butt heads while attempting to be heroic. The incursions will happen all over the galaxy and will be clearly marked on the map. At that point, teams of five to 40 can group up and take the fight to the stars. The ultimate goal of incursions is to defeat the mothership at the core, although it's nothing less than suicide to make a beeline for this ship right away. If players don't pick off the outer ring of ships -- and thus weaken the fleet's defenses -- their ships will be weakened if they decide to attack the mothership. If the mothership goes kablooey, then ISK and loyalty points will be had by all, in addition to the brand-new blueprints to said defeated mothership. One nice aspect of incursions is that if you can only participate in part of the fight, you'll still get rewarded once it's finished, even if you're not present. Incursions are somewhat different to the EVE universe than other parts of the game, which is CCP's desire. Hopefully, the incursions will be a great source of repeating content.
Taken from CCP's announcement
FYP
Originally by: Redshift XIII
Something tells me this guy wouldn't approve of my rocketcane :(
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xForever Alonex
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Posted - 2010.09.21 20:52:00 -
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This is great.
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Zanes Shoubje
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:04:00 -
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So when we're done shooting the last Sansha bad-person after having followed it into lowsec we get to draw straws for the shiny stuff, right.
Lowsec buff anyone.
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doombreed52
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:11:00 -
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DO you think they will release faction carriers? not just motherships. and how bout though big fleet lag fests anyone?
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:17:00 -
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I shall have to get my covert ops in position to swipe the lootz!@2@#$@
Yelp!
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: doombreed52
DO you think they will release faction carriers? not just motherships. and how bout though big fleet lag fests anyone?
What does introducing a new ship have to do with lag fests?
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Zabby Gabby
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:23:00 -
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I would almost cry with happiness if CCP introduced unique faction models of each carrier/dread...
Also the model for the Sansha Mothership is awfully bumpy...
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doombreed52
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:28:00 -
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oh idk because they keep releasing new content without fixing old errors.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: doombreed52
oh idk because they keep releasing new content without fixing old errors.
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW 
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
Good question.
Are these incursions were more prevalent in low sec than anywhere else? Where's that written down? Not that I'm against it, but CCP, here's one way to populate low sec.
Chance of faction capital BPCs = epic draw.
Yelp!
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
Good question.
Are these incursions were more prevalent in low sec than anywhere else? Where's that written down? Not that I'm against it, but CCP, here's one way to populate low sec.
Chance of faction capital BPCs = epic draw.
Now all the rich kids from the suburbs are going to roll into our humble lowsec with their big ships and starbucks outlets. Lowsec is about to get gentrified.
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Khanaris Asgarth on 21/09/2010 21:48:27
Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
Good question.
Are these incursions were more prevalent in low sec than anywhere else? Where's that written down? Not that I'm against it, but CCP, here's one way to populate low sec.
Chance of faction capital BPCs = epic draw.
Anyone else feel there's going to be a lot of turning on randoms joining a public fleet if the organized groups don't get the BPC for one of these over some lone wolf?
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.21 21:53:00 -
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as a Ninja looter of ill repute, I'll certainly be loitering about a mothership battle should a mothership class BPC be a potential drop. I will loose many ships... but I only need get away once. 
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Tar Ball
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Posted - 2010.09.21 22:01:00 -
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If they are releasing a Sansha fighter-bomber with this thing don't you think they meant to say supercarrier instead of mothership? What is the motherships roll? How does it differ from a supercarrier? Is this like those "hive ships" people keep talking about?
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Suboran
Gallente
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.09.21 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gogela
Quote:
teams of five to 40
Why the limitations? It sounds like a poor idea already.
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Ice Pirateer
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Posted - 2010.09.21 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Ball
If they are releasing a Sansha fighter-bomber with this thing don't you think they meant to say supercarrier instead of mothership? What is the motherships roll? How does it differ from a supercarrier? Is this like those "hive ships" people keep talking about?
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.09.21 22:09:00 -
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If it is anything like the hive ship, it will be a station type deal that your corp mated can dock in and use the market it, and when you are offline and it gets attacked, a uber-swarm of fighter bombers is deployed to defend. Nautrally you would park in next to a pos and it would reinforce sorta like a pos. We shall see though.
Also im guessing that this will be mainly the "more challenging stuff" for the carebears, another high sec buff.
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.09.21 22:27:00 -
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That un-textured Sansha ship pic looks like a dook.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.21 23:07:00 -
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The impresion I got a while back was that motherships are bascialy used to hotdrop supercarriers into battle.
as for what that realy is, I guess we will have to wait for a blog to clear things up
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a (Long) Guide to Pi
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Zanes Shoubje
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Posted - 2010.09.22 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
I think it was a talky bit of a particular dev during the tourney. If I remember correctly he said something about it starting in hisec and then move to lowsec for the final.
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.22 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Suboran
Quote:
teams of five to 40
Why the limitations? It sounds like a poor idea already.
u stoopid?
It's meant to be group PVE, which is something Eve is particularly lacking in. You can take as many people or as few people as you want, I'm sure, but you need a team to do it.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Tar Ball
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Posted - 2010.09.22 00:46:00 -
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Do you suppose, given that a mothership is a new class, and that it can hot drop supercaps, that these things are as big or bigger than titans? Will it cost like 80 bil to build one? |
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 01:11:00 -
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leaked sansha mothership needs more pointy bits, not more round bits.
ffs who designed that anyway?
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
x
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.09.22 01:13:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
leaked sansha mothership needs more pointy bits, not more round bits.
ffs who designed that anyway?
A 12 year old who then claimed it was leaked from CCP.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Lance Fighter
leaked sansha mothership needs more pointy bits, not more round bits.
ffs who designed that anyway?
A 12 year old who then claimed it was leaked from CCP.
yeah, thatd make more sense. That is, if they never saw a sansha ship before...
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.09.22 01:23:00 -
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Actually if you look close it does have pointy bits... They are smaller since the ship is bigger eh. I would not doubt that it is leaked, sad that it is leaked in such a crappy manner if it is, cause I imagine it looks great in Trinity, where it looks like crap in that render with no textures, no shaders and no smoothing groups.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 01:36:00 -
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actually, that IS in the sisi data files.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2010.09.22 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Suboran
Originally by: Gogela
Quote:
teams of five to 40
Why the limitations? It sounds like a poor idea already.
The "teams of five to 40" was written by the Massively reporter. Coming from an environment where "group" means a fixed size of 5, 10, 25 or 40 players, the reporter apparently misinterpreted CCP's statement of "small or large groups" to mean "party or raid instances." That's what you get for playing fantasy MMOs for too long.
What are the limitations on group sizes in EVE Online? Only an upper bound on fleet sizes determined by the leadership skills of the Fleet Commander, Wing Commanders and Squadron Commanders. There's nothing imposing a limit on how many ships can be in a fight, beyond the limitations of the EVE software running on the current hardware.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.09.22 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
Cause they said so at Fanfest. But, Eve being what it is, a "pick up game" with strangers in low sec is a recipe for unused content. We'll see.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.09.22 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Cause they said so at Fanfest.
Link?
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.09.22 03:17:00 -
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I highly doubt you are going to get a BPC for a mothership in a highsec encounter.. People that want them and can fly them are restricted to lowsec and 0.0 so this is where you will find them.
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rico Lobo on 22/09/2010 05:31:16
Lets Review
your going to be trying to blow up a Super cap ship
In Empire
Without Dreadnaughts
I suspect that were going to see 2k+ in thoes systems and half of the ships will be cruisers or lighter.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:32:00 -
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Edited by: Lance Fighter on 22/09/2010 05:32:18
not all highsec systems lack dreadnaughts? 
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
x
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Rico Lobo
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:35:00 -
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Somehow I doubt that even the Sansha are crazy enough to lock onto the Veildnaught.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Rico Lobo
Somehow I doubt that even the Sansha are crazy enough to lock onto the Veildnaught.
this... this is probably true. What about the jita one?
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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Widemouth Deepthroat
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Posted - 2010.09.22 06:16:00 -
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Originally by: Rico Lobo
Edited by: Rico Lobo on 22/09/2010 05:31:16
Lets Review
your going to be trying to blow up a Super cap ship
In Empire
Without Dreadnaughts
I suspect that were going to see 2k+ in thoes systems and half of the ships will be cruisers or lighter.
you don't need dreads or 2k pilots to take down a super cap especially one that can't log off
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Rico Lobo
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Posted - 2010.09.22 06:24:00 -
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well if its a mothership (as in actualy a mother ship and not a missnames super carrier) Its probably going to have more EHP than a titan.
but who knows at this point.
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King Rothgar
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2010.09.22 06:44:00 -
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Well if npc carriers are any indication, it shouldn't actually be all that tough. Yes, there are npc carriers. They exist in lvl5 missions. They have about the same EHP as an unfit player carrier but in typical npc fashion, they feature either a civilian armor rep or a civilian shield booster with a single t1 invuln/EANM. So they're actually pretty squishy all things considered.
I expect this new npc mothership/SC to be exactly the same. It might be a supercap, but it's going to have only the base EHP and no active tank. It will also just sit there and not actually do anything. Shooting it will probably spawn additional waves but that's about it. Still, I look forward to blasting that thing and snatching up a shiny bpc. Given that I and my entire corp live in amarr low sec, one of those is bound to show up on our door step in no time assuming they spawn in low sec.
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Slade Hoo
Amarr
Retired Gunslingers
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Posted - 2010.09.22 07:00:00 -
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ZOMG! IT'S A RAIDBOSS!
Sansha Crown Citadel Torpedos incoming!
Anyone able to make an Eveboard-tool so i can calculate some kind of gear score? otherwise i won't be able to assemble a raid party.
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Alfa Lavala
Red Sky Morning
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Posted - 2010.09.22 07:22:00 -
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I'm getting 32.3, recurring of course, chance of survival.
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Taser Monkey
Against All Asteroids
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Posted - 2010.09.22 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Taser Monkey on 22/09/2010 07:32:23
I'm forming a raid already, GS of at least 9000 is mandatory. Come to the Jita bank for inspection, noobs, ninja looters and /b/tards not welcome. Must know the raid well, be able to follow orders, spam local with **** and must own a unicorn.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.22 08:11:00 -
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I am all those horrible things. I will loot your smack , charge a ransom, and not honor it. I will claim your loot. enjoy this
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Wikis
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Posted - 2010.09.22 10:36:00 -
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sansha carrier looks like piece of boo boo
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.09.22 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Taser Monkey
I'm forming a raid already, GS of at least 9000 is mandatory. Come to the Jita bank for inspection, noobs, ninja looters and /b/tards not welcome. Must know the raid well, be able to follow orders, spam local with **** and must own a unicorn.
Aw crap. I only fulfil that last requirementà
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Misticrevalation
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Posted - 2010.09.22 11:33:00 -
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1) The ship you now refer to as "Super Carrier" was originally called a Mothership, so their wording was fine.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.09.22 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
That un-textured Sansha ship pic looks like a dook.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2010.09.22 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Cause they said so at Fanfest.
Link?
If memory serves me right, it was during one of the vids. Which, I don't remember. Sorry.
The Real Space Initiative - V6 (Forum Link)
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Zanes Shoubje
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Posted - 2010.09.22 12:31:00 -
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My guess is that it is gonna be quite hard and if you arent in a well organized group you get Sansha dead quickly. There is already very difficult group PVE in EVE, Sleepers. Now imagine the Sansha mother ship being kept alive by remote reps or some extra Nightmares warping in the moment some new players arrive on the battlefield.
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JennyD
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Posted - 2010.09.22 14:19:00 -
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Actualy the reason for this is that PL are bored with hotdropping lone bs in lo-sec with SC fleets.
Geting this implemented means they will now be able to drop their SC fleets onto disorganised fleets of noobs entering lo-sec , and of course any `mothership` bpc will goto PL .
Have to keep their SC fleet busy , as its being boosted by the defunct CH Supercaps ( also known for dropping SC fleets on solo/small sub cap fleets in lo-sec)
I gues this is what mazz was campaigning for when she held herself up as the voice of lo-sec when campaigning for a seat on the CSM ( irony is she has never spent any time in lo-sec and displayed a clear lack of knowledge about lo-sec mechanics)
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NewGit
Caldari
Rusty Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.22 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Ball
Do you suppose, given that a mothership is a new class, and that it can hot drop supercaps, that these things are as big or bigger than titans? Will it cost like 80 bil to build one?
(Unsubstantiated) rumour has it that in addition to the normal building materials, one of the components needed will be players corpses (it is a Sansha ship after all). The more corpses supplied, the better the stats and bonuses for the ship.
(Guess this means the Goons will never build one, as it seems they prefer to eat the corpses.)
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Posted - 2010.09.22 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Taser Monkey
Edited by: Taser Monkey on 22/09/2010 07:32:23
I'm forming a raid already, GS of at least 9000 is mandatory. Come to the Jita bank for inspection, noobs, ninja looters and /b/tards not welcome. Must know the raid well, be able to follow orders, spam local with **** and must own a unicorn.
Can i com plees, i have dun it on my alt but i do not have the acheevment, i was d/c just befoor it died.
I have some big shoulderpads to.
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Kephael
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.09.22 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: NewGit
Originally by: Tar Ball
Do you suppose, given that a mothership is a new class, and that it can hot drop supercaps, that these things are as big or bigger than titans? Will it cost like 80 bil to build one?
(Unsubstantiated) rumour has it that in addition to the normal building materials, one of the components needed will be players corpses (it is a Sansha ship after all). The more corpses supplied, the better the stats and bonuses for the ship.
(Guess this means the Goons will never build one, as it seems they prefer to eat the corpses.)
This is most likely false, you could farm alts all day to meet the requirements.
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Kickin Urass
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Posted - 2010.09.22 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Hoo
ZOMG! IT'S A RAIDBOSS!
This was my first thought as well: Its a PvE "open" raid ....
I certainly hope they've thought this through, especially if its going to take place in low/null sec. If it does, its likely to devolve into a "King of the Hill" lag fest.
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Verlaine Glariant
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Posted - 2010.09.22 17:18:00 -
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A Faction Mothership? I do foresee the existence of a ship which price is even higher than that of the Titans.
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Nedefeg
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Posted - 2010.09.22 17:51:00 -
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so...umm
how the hell are they gona restrict these "raids" to 40 ppl?
CCP , for all that`s holly , dont ****in say the word instance!!
oh , and pve xpansion is bleagh
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 18:27:00 -
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look on the bright side. If ccp wants, they can very strictly limit the number of mommyships out there, simply by not having incursion things.
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
x
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My Entity
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.09.22 18:37:00 -
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Well the original "Mothership" first introduced in the EVE Online history is an "early version of Titan" used by Jovian against Amarr fleets. Unlike the conventional "Mothership/Supercarriers" that we are aware of, this "Mothership" used super green laser beams to "one-shot" Amarr cruisers/battleships, as to using dozens of small fighters.
In the previous threads, many "EVE Historians" predicted that it would be a "logistic version" of a Titan. Also, they speculated that it would resemble much of Jovian design since the whole concept of "Mothership" came from Jovian technology and they are holding a Jovian after all, AND a jovian Battlestation =P
Once again, these are all speculation.
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ImCoolerThanYou
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Posted - 2010.09.22 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
look on the bright side. If ccp wants, they can very strictly limit the number of mommyships out there, simply by not having incursion things.
Except you can get blue print copies from the True Power LP store or as Sansha Nation Epic Arc rewards.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: ImCoolerThanYou
Originally by: Lance Fighter
look on the bright side. If ccp wants, they can very strictly limit the number of mommyships out there, simply by not having incursion things.
Except you can get blue print copies from the True Power LP store or as Sansha Nation Epic Arc rewards.
*frown* i was under the impression these mommyships were only to be gotten through the incursions?
link saying otherwise?
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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ImCoolerThanYou
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Posted - 2010.09.22 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Fighter
*frown* i was under the impression these mommyships were only to be gotten through the incursions?
link saying otherwise?
I forgot to mention that you have to be cooler than me to get access to the Epic Arcs and the BPC's from the LP store.
No sorry, I was being sarcastic and a bit bitter. I have to sit the Sansha 10/10 plexes out and can only run an occasional plex since it ruins my Sansha standings. So this expansion is yet another one that I have to sit on the sidelines for. //bitter//
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.09.22 20:25:00 -
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oh. well. er.
i agree, the whole standings system / belt rat / plex system needs to be revamped a bit tbh.
Mostly because im bitter i screwed up my standings horribly by missioning myself, so theres no way I can do sansha missions without years of grinding level 1s.....
Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails
so i'm pretty much anti cat at the moment (lol)
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.09.22 20:46:00 -
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Edited by: Hirana Yoshida on 22/09/2010 20:47:13
This is what will happen with their new "content":
- All 0.0 Incursions will be capital blob-fests. If you are not in the 2-3 (corps)alliances leading the powerblocs do not even hope to get anything out of it other than scraps/bounties.
- All low-sec Incursions will be capital blob-fests. If you are not in the 2-3 alliances leading the powerblocs do not even hope to get anything out of it other than scraps/bounties.
- High-sec Incursions the loot goes to whomever is the fastest ninja, the end.
The whole idea of corps butting heads is naive beyond comprehension. Once the beacon lights in any constellation it will be swarmed by nearest bloc and any local residents made homeless for the duration.
The meek shall inherit the Earth and live the good life on the sole of the boot that stomped them into the ground.
Looks like the bore-sec folks get their wish with another capital that can only be killed by capital blobs and and yet another boost to their already ridiculously high incomes with condensed high-value spawns.
That is this December. Next one is Incarna I believe. So this time next year low-sec gets some attention or will CCP push another bore-sec boost? My guess is the latter, gotta keep the multi-account macros happy 
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.22 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Gogela on 22/09/2010 22:09:29
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
This is what will happen with their new "content":
- All 0.0 Incursions will be capital blob-fests. If you are not in the 2-3 (corps)alliances leading the powerblocs do not even hope to get anything out of it other than scraps/bounties.
- All low-sec Incursions will be capital blob-fests. If you are not in the 2-3 alliances leading the powerblocs do not even hope to get anything out of it other than scraps/bounties.
- High-sec Incursions the loot goes to whomever is the fastest ninja, the end.
The whole idea of corps butting heads is naive beyond comprehension. Once the beacon lights in any constellation it will be swarmed by nearest bloc and any local residents made homeless for the duration.
The meek shall inherit the Earth and live the good life on the sole of the boot that stomped them into the ground.
Looks like the bore-sec folks get their wish with another capital that can only be killed by capital blobs and and yet another boost to their already ridiculously high incomes with condensed high-value spawns.
That is this December. Next one is Incarna I believe. So this time next year low-sec gets some attention or will CCP push another bore-sec boost? My guess is the latter, gotta keep the multi-account macros happy
That seems really pessimistic. In the example of factional warfare, I've found that large fleets (these 'powerblocks' you speak of) seldom engage non-FW locals in the systems they pass through. I've gone into complexes with FW fleets, and they pretty much ignore me, unless there are packs of pirates about. I'm sure when it comes down to it they will appreciate the extra firepower locals bring. There will be exceptions, of course, but for the most part that will be the case. As a low sec ninja, I would say what you say about the "fastest ninja" will hold true regardless of what sec the systems with incursions have. The battles will last a bit, and as the logistics of moving a large blob of caps around will probably keep engagements from getting too out of hand. I just don't see blobs of caps on the order of what happens in null sec popping up, particularly when people start loosing caps to the Sanshas, their followers, or my favorite force in eve, the random pack of pirates factor. :) Take for example Beyond Divinity a few months ago in the Tama area. They weren't in FW. They were just rolling around blowing up FW people for no reason but the lulz that I could see. (I was ninja looting wrecks). They would kill any cap they could pull up on scan, and several caldari militia guys lost carriers. Funny stuff (and nice loot for the nimble!).
I think bringing more traffic to null sec will be a big boon for low sec piracy. It'll bring new commerce as well... new opportunities for loot and salvage ninjas, and yes conflict between incursion response factions as they wind down the encounters. It sounds like a good time.
Eventually, someone will bring a sansha mothership to the battle, and pirates and nearby hostile alliances may be drawn in for the the kill. It'll be fun. Give it a chance!
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Lost Greybeard
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Posted - 2010.09.22 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Nedefeg
so...umm
how the hell are they gona restrict these "raids" to 40 ppl?
CCP , for all that`s holly , dont ****in say the word instance!!
oh , and pve xpansion is bleagh
As someone pointed out in the initial thread about that story, likely dev being interviewed just described it as "similar to a raid in Warcraft" and that got brain-farted into "40 people" by the interviewer.
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Deva Blackfire
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.09.23 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: Gogela
That seems really pessimistic. In the example of factional warfare, I've found that large fleets (these 'powerblocks' you speak of) seldom engage non-FW locals in the systems they pass through. I've gone into complexes with FW fleets, and they pretty much ignore me, unless there are packs of pirates about. I'm sure when it comes down to it they will appreciate the extra firepower locals bring. There will be exceptions, of course, but for the most part that will be the case.
As far as i remember FW doesnt hand out supercaps. And last i checked 0.0 powers strength is mostly calculated by how many supercaps they can deploy at the same time.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.23 16:21:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
As far as i remember FW doesnt hand out supercaps. And last i checked 0.0 powers strength is mostly calculated by how many supercaps they can deploy at the same time.
...and? You have to build the thing first. The erratic nature of incisions is going to preclude a claim of "ownership" on events. I think it'll be like the wild west... just fun and shooting. (...and ninjas!)
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2010.09.23 17:03:00 -
[75]
When somethings too good to be true, some times it is.
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alittlebirdy
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Posted - 2010.09.23 17:22:00 -
[76]
Sweet moar lag.
Good thing you did not fix the lag ccp now you can píss off people in HS as well...
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Deva Blackfire
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.09.23 17:50:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Gogela
Originally by: Deva Blackfire
As far as i remember FW doesnt hand out supercaps. And last i checked 0.0 powers strength is mostly calculated by how many supercaps they can deploy at the same time.
...and? You have to build the thing first. The erratic nature of incisions is going to preclude a claim of "ownership" on events. I think it'll be like the wild west... just fun and shooting. (...and ninjas!)
1. if you can get it easily be using supercap blob - you can be sure the owners of said supercap blobs will get BPCs for motherships. If it means blobbing lowsec dwellers even better - coz you can get some no-risk kills while you are at it. So im quite sure any events near 0.0 space will get blobbed by 0.0 inhabitants
2. yes you need to build MS 1st. Which can be pretty much done only in 0.0. Blobby 0.0 (i doubt there are any small alliances building supercaps nowadays as it needs well protected sov + CSAA). Which again returns to my point: more toys for blobbers.
3. yes i understand you can sell the BPC if you are not the "blobby guy" to the "blobby guys". Ofc if they didnt take it in 1st place.
So im not being negative here - im just being realistic. If something makes easy isk - it will be taken over fast. And taken over by guys who can hold it.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.24 16:27:00 -
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Have they said if the mothership BPCs will be drop items or part of that tiered extended event rewards thingy?
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Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.24 16:36:00 -
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It's ok, we will blob it with enough ships so that no outsider would be physically able to reach the wreck.
What was the issue again? Surely no one truly believes any corp/alliance/coalition will allow anyone non blue near it?
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Posted - 2010.09.24 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Lyta Ford on 24/09/2010 16:46:04
Originally by: Guilliman R
It's ok, we will blob it with enough ships so that no outsider would be physically able to reach the wreck.
What was the issue again? Surely no one truly believes any corp/alliance/coalition will allow anyone non blue near it?
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.09.24 16:47:00 -
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My 0.02 ISK:
If the player-controllable Sansha mothership is essentially a faction supercarrier, it will only be deployed by zerg power blocs. If it's BETTER than a supercarrier, it will only be deployed by zerg power blocs, and will also have unpredictable and likely humorous effects on the nullsec arms race.
If it's worse than a supercarrier or serves an entirely different function altogether, then I have no idea. Apparently no one knows what they actually do yet. If the player-controlled version does the same thing the PvE version does... I'm set up us the lulz.
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.24 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: Verlaine Glariant
A Faction Mothership? I do foresee the existence of a ship which price is even higher than that of the Titans.
There are already numerous such ships in existence.
However, you might want to consider a few things, first of all; I now have one of those annoying sigs.
second; you should probably move on to some more interesting things than reading this sig.
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Kewso
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Posted - 2010.09.24 18:37:00 -
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level 50m sp LFG for epic mothership raid, will /random phat lewtz while waiting for respawn
bring healer, tank, hybrid can add MOAR DOTS! as needed.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.09.24 20:20:00 -
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How funny would it be if it is a faction super carrier and enough people at CCP don't even know the game well enough that it passed all the prof reads, and did the press release with that error in it?
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Vaneshi SnowCrash
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Posted - 2010.09.24 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kewso
level 50m sp LFG for epic mothership raid, will ninja phat lewtz while waiting for respawn
bring logis, broadswords, EM/THM dmg can add MOAR Templar support! as needed.
FTFY
I think that's a reasonable WoW -> EvE translation?
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Fkn Arson
0ne Percent.
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Posted - 2010.09.24 23:10:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Vaneshi SnowCrash
Originally by: Kewso
level 50m sp LFG for epic mothership raid, will ninja phat lewtz while waiting for respawn
bring logis, broadswords, EM/THM dmg can add MOAR Templar support! as needed.
FTFY
I think that's a reasonable WoW -> EvE translation?
I still remember "World Raid Bosses" in vanilla WoW, how over time, guilds on both sides would set up "treaties" so that they had time to take down one without possible attack from the opposite side. (pvp server if this is not obvious)
I'm thinking if I see UshraKhan and CVA calling out cease-fires to take care of an incursion in system, Eve has begun it's spiral. Thanks to the hard-headedness of those two alliances, I'm willing to bet we'll be fine.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.09.27 13:19:00 -
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Ha. A treaty in null sec for something like NPCs... that'll be the day. "Um... you want to bring all of your expensive caps to a predetermined location at a predetermined time deep into our space and within striking distance of all our corps? ...* uh... right... well welcome to our space! ...oh? Yes yes of COURSE you will be completely safe... :)"
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.09.27 14:24:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Fighter on 27/09/2010 14:25:43
heres a tinfoil idea!
incursions will introduce a few specific system at a time that have a heavy load, ccp know where the events will be and can reinforce before hand. End result = more plays in reinforced systems, less people in non reinforced systems.
So win win win? 
EDIT: stats on new sansha mum! pweeeeeeze
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Staner Industries
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Posted - 2010.09.27 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Wyke Mossari on 27/09/2010 14:30:08
The idea that somebody will be able ninja a faction Capital BPC is delusional. The same for being able to hot dropping fleets, Sansha incursions are into high-sec.
There are lots of clues in the reportage, attack the complexes, trigger escalations and finally kill the mothership.
The reward mechanism is being reported as a small reward for participating with a big reward as the end goal. Think about that for a moment.
It's exactly the same mechanism used with WHs, get components at each event/battle/complex, find all the pieces and ultimately reverse engineer/invent a Sansha Faction Mothership BPC.
It's not something you are going to find in can.
The outstanding question in my mind is, will it be a true super carrier capital, or high-sec sub-capital like Freighters/Orca.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.01 20:00:00 -
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meh... you might be right. I think I'll ninja anyway for kicks though... :D
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Hesperius
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.10.01 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wyke Mossari
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Do you really think CCP would buff high sec by putting what will probably be a 4-10 billion isk BPC dropping? They did say it was a BPC that would drop, so I am not sure where you got the information it wasn't.
Most important, it is said to be a mothership, not a super carrier, and most definitely the Sansha Nation has not building a high sec freighter, ever.
The question is if the Mothership is the "Hive" ship, or if someone at CCP just made an error and it is in fact a faction super carrier?
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.03 22:38:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Hesperius
Do you really think CCP would buff high sec by putting what will probably be a 4-10 billion isk BPC dropping? They did say it was a BPC that would drop, so I am not sure where you got the information it wasn't.
Most important, it is said to be a mothership, not a super carrier, and most definitely the Sansha Nation has not building a high sec freighter, ever.
The question is if the Mothership is the "Hive" ship, or if someone at CCP just made an error and it is in fact a faction super carrier?
From what I've read it's going to be a mothership... but it's roll has not been specified. I was looking through threads on hive ships a while back... not sure if they would try to make one for this. What was CCPs original idea for a mothership? Does anyone know if they have talked about the concept before?
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IloveRickAstley
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Posted - 2010.10.03 23:25:00 -
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This is the dumbest idea ever. Get all these random people together to kill some big spaceship that drops some super expensive bpc that the first person to loot the can gets. I hope there are *******s that fit snipers with all sensor boosters and snipe the can each time. Or else make it like wow where everyone gets to roll a dice 1-100 HAHAHAHA!
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.10.04 01:44:00 -
[94]
Originally by: IloveRickAstley
This is the dumbest idea ever. Get all these random people together to kill some big spaceship that drops some super expensive bpc that the first person to loot the can gets. I hope there are *******s that fit snipers with all sensor boosters and snipe the can each time. Or else make it like wow where everyone gets to roll a dice 1-100 HAHAHAHA!
Yeah, right, like a bunch of random ****tards with no fleet discipline will be able to run the site.
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Kezzle
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Posted - 2010.10.04 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kickin Urass
Originally by: Slade Hoo
ZOMG! IT'S A RAIDBOSS!
This was my first thought as well: Its a PvE "open" raid ....
I certainly hope they've thought this through, especially if its going to take place in low/null sec. If it does, its likely to devolve into a "King of the Hill" lag fest.
At least CCP will know well in advance which node to reinforce. If they want, they can use some sort of game mechanic to limit the number/tonnage of ships in the system: the Sansha Mom could cyno jam when it arrives, and some sort of 'fluence over the gates (or the sheer overload volume of transits) could limit arrivals by conventional means.
"Loot distribution" from the wreck is liable to be purely an initial allocation, and the prelude to the recipient (and their mates) getting ganked to pieces.
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Sierra X117
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:54:00 -
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i wasn't sure if those images were real or not, so i looked into it... :P this isn't even a leak,
it is packed right into the files of the new SISI client :)
theres the mothership/super carrier
Linkage
and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...)
Linkage
oh and heres the fighter bomber, (im assuming as well, from the naming convention Sansha.Fighter.Bomber "SFB1.gr2")
Linkage
so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :)
i want that mother ship :D
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Devoyd
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:02:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Devoyd on 04/10/2010 20:03:21
Originally by: Sierra X117
i wasn't sure if those images were real or not, so i looked into it... :P this isn't even a leak,
it is packed right into the files of the new SISI client :)
theres the mothership/super carrier
Linkage
and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...)
Linkage
oh and heres the fighter bomber, (im assuming as well, from the naming convention Sansha.Fighter.Bomber "SFB1.gr2")
Linkage
i want that mother ship :D
Whoa...that mothership looks....like someone ate too much corn before taking a dump. That second ship is a standard sansha fighter, I've seen them everywhere in Amarr space.
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:47:00 -
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I quite like the Mothership - It's difficult to get a sense of scale without the textures but given the spikes around the nose... Yes, they could have stuck spikes all over it but moderation is preferable to GW syndrome (stick spikes on it and dip it in red paint and it's Khornate, dip it in glue and paint it green and Nurgle is the patron...).
And I'm wondering whether I see a little Eidelon in its genes...
I should imagine that, given the need to strip out the outlying ships first, CCP have scaled around Battleships and will take measures to ensure noone brings in a triage carrier to tank everything...etc. My guess would be that they'll simply have the mothership sitting in a deadspace pocket, preventing cynos, assigned fighters...etc.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.06 20:54:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Sierra X117
and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...)
Linkage
so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :)
i want that mother ship :D
oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there!
http://www.gogela.com/eve/info.php
Although I should put forth a small suggestion... since they are giving us a faction bomber, this may very well be a faction fighter. I got thinking the bombers they gave us were going to be pilot-able when I first saw the rough models...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
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Posted - 2010.10.06 21:00:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40
Originally by: Gogela
Originally by: Sierra X117
and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...)
Linkage
so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :)
i want that mother ship :D
oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there!
Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.06 21:07:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Gogela on 06/10/2010 21:12:51
Hmmm... yah I just looked it up and got this:
I still want one in my hanger....
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Sierra X117
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Posted - 2010.10.09 03:10:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Sierra X117 on 09/10/2010 03:13:10
Edited by: Sierra X117 on 09/10/2010 03:12:39
Originally by: Gogela
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oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there!
http://www.gogela.com/eve/info.php
Although I should put forth a small suggestion... since they are giving us a faction bomber, this may very well be a faction fighter. I got thinking the bombers they gave us were going to be pilot-able when I first saw the rough models...
well no, you wouldn't have seen it on tranquility I'm pulling everything of the SIS client files.
as for the fighter,i cant seem to find one on the current SISI build, but might not be finished/added to SISI, so my hopes are still up :)
and as for the frigate: I hang out in 0.0 space and caldari... so haven't seen em around i assumed it was new as I had only seen the succubus in missions, never that thing :P
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.11 18:22:00 -
[103]
I think it's interesting that CCP Oveur, when talking about the new sansha ships that will be introduced in the expansion, did in fact say "shipS"
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Matthias Howe
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.11 19:55:00 -
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Wooo doggy that Sansha super carrier thing fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
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Tuttomenui II
Gallente
Buddha Pigs
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Posted - 2010.10.11 23:16:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Matthias Howe
Wooo doggy that Sansha super carrier thing fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
I think it hit a few diseased monkeys also in the process.
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Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.10.12 01:24:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 12/10/2010 01:25:10
Originally by: Hesperius
Do you really think CCP would buff high sec by putting what will probably be a 4-10 billion isk BPC dropping?
After years of buffing lowsec and 0.0 in failed attempts to lure more hisec people there, i kinda did. This will likely fail to do that too, yet they'll remain convinced they just have to keep buffing them and next time it will work.
As long as gate bottlenecks and the easymode PvP they bring exist, they can put whatever they want there and people still won't bother.
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Grideris
Gallente
Fleet Coordination Commission
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Posted - 2010.10.12 03:08:00 -
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The new frigate that you linked is an addition to the incursion feature. It's a Torpedo bomber (not a stealth bomber) and it does a crap load of damage.
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.10.12 06:59:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40
Originally by: Gogela
Originally by: Sierra X117
and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...)
Linkage
so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :)
i want that mother ship :D
oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there!
Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years.
It's the Succubus, a Sansha frigate, used by NPCs.
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Cobalt Sixty
Caldari
Invictus Australis
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.10.12 07:18:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40
Originally by: Gogela
Originally by: Sierra X117
and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...)
Linkage
so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :)
i want that mother ship :D
oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there!
Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years.
It's the Succubus, a Sansha frigate, used by NPCs.
Cute use of the meme, but that isn't a Succubus.
From memory the information box often described the NPC version as an Interceptor class Frigate - my fingers are crossed for a rival to the Dramiel.
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2010.10.12 11:44:00 -
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Just a thought how they could limit numbers to the pve content which would fit with eve, with Sansha created 'wormholes' as gates, so they collapse/destabilise after certain number/mass jumped through. Could mean your mates couldn't warp out and back though as they'd be faced with the same destabilised gate. Would also mean you could lock other players out from bothering you in it which would suck. |
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Brian Ballsack
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Posted - 2010.10.12 13:12:00 -
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Its going to be a supercarrier.
Mothership or MOM was and is used when talking about a supercarrier by alot of people.
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Drachiel
Mercury LLC
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Posted - 2010.10.12 15:30:00 -
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I, personally, cannot wait to fit my triple sensor boosted Zealot, cloak off of a big Incursion, decloak as the Sansha mom is going down, and turn the wreck into dust with my lasers before anybody loots it.
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Jim Lovell
Gallente
Jotunheimr Productions Ltd.
Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.10.13 23:50:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Abdiel Kavash
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 06/10/2010 21:06:40
Originally by: Gogela
Originally by: Sierra X117
and tinny bit more snooping around I also found a new frigate class ship :) I've never seen it before... (im assuming, the naming convention fits...)
Linkage
so, no no 12 year old making fakes here :)
i want that mother ship :D
oooh. New Frigate! I haven't seen that one before, and I've seen a lot. Here's a link to all the ships in the database on tranquility now. In-game the links go to showinfo, so you can see the models, stats, and fittings on all these ships. That new Sansha ship you found is not there!
Its a standard sansha frigate used by sansha npcs, its been around for years.
It's the Succubus, a Sansha frigate, used by NPCs.
That frig is a very old sansha frig thats been around since year 1, its not the succubus but another sansha frig you can see them in complexes etc , but there undoubtly will be new sansha frig, cruiser and BS , the frig bpc dropping from the 7-10 man plex, the cruiser from the nest one up and i guess BS from the 20-40 man plex, and also a small chance to drop in the middle tier one and the mothership haveing only a rare chance id say to drop of a certain namemd commander in the top lvl plex, but im just speculating!
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.13 23:54:00 -
[114]
So we have angel and gurista pirate arcs( but ccp failed to deliver the rest)
rest assured incursions will go in and we never will get the other factions as simple as that
Appears t3 mods frigs and destroyers are off the menu as are comets oh well if they say something at fanfest go yeah right do it
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Eyeama Spy
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Posted - 2010.10.14 10:19:00 -
[115]
Tit bits i heard re expansion mechanics;
1: incursions will occour in all sec types, high low and null sec, just high sec ones will be easyest, null sec hardest.
2: everyone takeing part gets rewards,(except remote reppers) as rewards are based on damage points inflicted...think of it as each damage point inflicted = a LP point for use in sancha incursion LP store (possably to be found in concord stations). I suspect that this will result in a drop in sancha frigate and cruiser prices unless ballance is given very careful consideration.
3: 'supercarrier/mothership' bpc will be a reward....it will be a lot cheeper in RP then an equivalent supercarrier, however being a faction ship it is a lot more skill intensive to use. Actual values are the matter for ballancing atm.
4: some ccp staff members are pressing for devs to be able to partake in sancha incursions in any ship class present, as it will allow them to have a better view on combat machanics and ballance issues.
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JS LiamElms
Gallente
Zor Industries
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.14 12:43:00 -
[116]
Edited by: JS LiamElms on 14/10/2010 12:47:59
Originally by: JennyD
Actualy the reason for this is that PL are bored with hotdropping lone bs in lo-sec with SC fleets.
for you sir...
PL SANSHA CARRIER
as for the sansha supercarrier, this was pulled from sisi 2 days ago
SANSHA SUPERCARRIER
compared with aeon you can see the size at this time
AEON/SANSHA
and yesterdays patch, they have increased the size, and the skin is half complete
DEVELOPMENT 14 Oct
pov
the base should have spikes that are huge tbh!
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Grozen
Caldari
Titan Core
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Posted - 2010.10.14 13:07:00 -
[117]
i hate to say it but the ship looks like a large poop
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Arthur Frayn
V.O.F.L IRON CORE
H E L I C O N
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Posted - 2010.10.14 14:14:00 -
[118]
Despite the fecal appearance, I'd say we have the winner for what will become the most valuable single objects in Eve for the forseeable future. Far more valuable than even the state/imperial/tribal/federate issue battleships.
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Matt Douglass
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Posted - 2010.10.14 14:45:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Gogela
Some guy posted these models of the new sansha ships:
"Mothership"
Sansha Fighter/Bomber
That mothership seriously looks like something my dog shat out this mornin'.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.18 22:00:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Despite the fecal appearance, I'd say we have the winner for what will become the most valuable single objects in Eve for the forseeable future. Far more valuable than even the state/imperial/tribal/federate issue battleships.
That is unlikely to be the case. Even a titan BPC is only worth about 8 bil tops... and this mothership is not a "unique" item, since more will be showing up in game all the time. That said, I'm sure it won't get 'cheap' for quite some time...
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Ubu
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Posted - 2010.10.19 00:33:00 -
[121]
I keep hearing everyone talk about the inevitable rush to loot or possibly exploding the can before anyone can loot. You may have more/better information than I but from reading what was said by CCP everything thing seems to point at a new means of loot collection that can happen even while not logged in ( assuming you took part). This seems to me to indicate the possibility of a non-can means of getting even the big bosses loot.
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.19 00:37:00 -
[122]
that sansha super carrier looks alot like a beetle larve... the front end has a big bug like head on it
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Gravemind GER
Caldari
Swords OF TYR
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.19 06:49:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Narisa Bithon
that sansha super carrier looks alot like a beetle larve... the front end has a big bug like head on it
troopers! fight the giant brainbug!
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Flaura
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Posted - 2010.10.19 10:20:00 -
[124]
Mmmm, that carrier makes me want to play bubble bubble
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Syuveil
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Posted - 2010.10.19 12:56:00 -
[125]
my guess is when they say "mothership", they are not talking about supercarriers, but rather something along the lines of the jovian motherships from the Battle of VakÆAtioth
also, the new sansha ship textures look more jovian-like, maybe that was the point of remaking them in the first place.
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Saxton Hale
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Posted - 2010.10.19 16:40:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Fkn Arson
I'm thinking if I see UshraKhan and CVA calling out cease-fires to take care of an incursion in system, Eve has begun it's spiral. Thanks to the hard-headedness of those two alliances, I'm willing to bet we'll be fine.
Funny thing is that the Sansha are the only faction I can think of that they'd be justified in teaming up against from an RP-perspective. Doubt it would happen with those semi-static Incursions, but if a live event dropped in their laps?
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.20 15:06:00 -
[127]
Wait... live event? I thought the incursions were all NPC, all the time. Weren't the "live events" we were having just testing of these automated NPC incursions?
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Princess Jodi
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.20 19:15:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
Of course you'd want the incursions to be in low-sec. Otherwise Concord would kill anyone shooting rivals on the same mission. I'm assuming you could do so, cuz otherwise they may as well make a Level 6 mission and be done with it.
Frankly I can't see how they would exist in high sec space, without being totally er.... effiminate?
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Tar Ball
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Posted - 2010.10.21 14:54:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Zanes Shoubje
Lowsec buff anyone.
What on earth makes you think this has anything to do with low sec?
Of course you'd want the incursions to be in low-sec. Otherwise Concord would kill anyone shooting rivals on the same mission. I'm assuming you could do so, cuz otherwise they may as well make a Level 6 mission and be done with it.
Frankly I can't see how they would exist in high sec space, without being totally er.... effiminate?
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Mehrune Khan
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.25 21:07:00 -
[130]
Will this new Sansha capital ship be available to purchase at Sansha loyalty point stores? I don't care if it is super-expensive, I would happily grind missions for a year long if I had to if it meant getting my hands on one.
I really don't want to take part in the incursions, I have been planning on working for Sanshas since I created my character. I never get the super-lucky uber rare loot drop anyway. |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.26 00:24:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Mehrune Khan
Will this new Sansha capital ship be available to purchase at Sansha loyalty point stores? I don't care if it is super-expensive, I would happily grind missions for a year long if I had to if it meant getting my hands on one.
I really don't want to take part in the incursions, I have been planning on working for Sanshas since I created my character. I never get the super-lucky uber rare loot drop anyway.
As I understand it the answer is "no". From what I've read, it seems that there will be some kind of rewards que using an as yet undetailed system and the sansha mothership will be a drop item.
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Tar Ball
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Posted - 2010.10.27 19:42:00 -
[132]
From the CSM notes:
Quote:
The rewards are primarily ISK and LPs from Concord, points that players will be able to spend on the new Concord LP store. The super carrier blueprint copy will have a fixed chance drop rate. The trick about the rewards is that only the fleet that deals the most damage will receive bounty and LP rewards. Rewards for individual complexes will also change based on the number of pilots in the fleet running them, bringing the äsweet spot‟ number of pilots will ensure maximum gain; too many or too few pilots and the rewards will be lowered. Also, Incursion rats will give sec status increases just like other NPCs do.
Sansha raiders will not drop faction loot like belt rats, etc...
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2010.10.27 21:40:00 -
[133]
Faction Super Carrier and not a Mothership...
I do not know where to begin in expressing my disappointment.
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LUTHER GOMITH
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Posted - 2010.11.07 12:21:00 -
[134]
OK  For every one that has not really figured it out you are all really new to the game it looks like but Super-carriers and Mother-ships are one and the same when they added carriers they renamed the Mothers to Super ask any one that has played over 4 years and I'm a bit surprised that the Render has few Spikes on the Super
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UNKNOWN DUDE
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Posted - 2010.11.13 08:18:00 -
[135]
Well this ship can't be docked :(
If you're not in a major alliance and get that BPC, looks like you will be selling it. I'm sure you will make a killing on it though.
Anyone with the test server can get on it and look it up under the market tab "faction Carrier". "Revenant" is the name.
I didn't see the fighter bomber but I really didn't look that hard.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2010.11.13 12:15:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Spurty
I shall have to get my covert ops in position to swipe the lootz!@2@#$@
cloaked ships cant parcipate apparrently
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Blue Harrier
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.11.13 13:11:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Tar Ball
Edited by: Tar Ball on 27/10/2010 20:01:26
From the CSM notes:
Quote:
The rewards are primarily ISK and LPs from Concord, points that players will be able to spend on the new Concord LP store. The super carrier blueprint copy will have a fixed chance drop rate. The trick about the rewards is that only the fleet that deals the most damage will receive bounty and LP rewards. Rewards for individual complexes will also change based on the number of pilots in the fleet running them, bringing the äsweet spot‟ number of pilots will ensure maximum gain; too many or too few pilots and the rewards will be lowered. Also, Incursion rats will give sec status increases just like other NPCs do.
Sansha raiders will not drop faction loot like belt rats, etc...
(edited to link CSM notes)
If you want to see some pretty graphs on how the distribution will work log in to SiSi open your Journal and click the [Incursions] tab, you can see the new UI and details of where the incursions are located along with stats etc.
Warning; may need a 1.5 Gig update to a copy of your TQ folder if you are not already running a SiSi client.
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