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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:12:00 -
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An optional patch will be deployed during downtime on Saturday, October 2 which will fix several issues reported to us following the release of Tyrannis 1.1. While the patch is optional, we would encourage everyone to apply the update to ensure your gameplay is improved. The optional patch will be included in a future client update. A full list of updated patch notes can be found here.
The reason for deploying an optional patch is that these updates contain UI core fixes which are client-only changes in python. This process is much quicker to prepare, test and execute and allows us to prepare a patch much faster than usual. The EVE Online client remains usable whether an optional patch is applied or not.
Following downtime you will see a pop up box once the client is launched informing you that a patch is available and if you want to install. If you click 'Yes' then the patch will be applied and then you can log into Tranquility. If you choose 'No' you will log in to Tranquility directly but you will none of the fixes applied. If you clicked 'No' in error you can still apply the patch by going to the ESC menu, General Settings and apply the patch from the 'Install' button there.
Zymurgist
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Aldariandra
Gallente
This will look bad on your killboard
Capital Storm
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:48:00 -
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On the patch notes page, can you please list which notes belong with which of the different optional patches or builds? Its hard to understand which fixes where in which optional patch. Especially if you declined to install the first one.
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Michael Eisner
The Walt Disney Company
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:49:00 -
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Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me? :-p
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Malleus Terminatus
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:02:00 -
[4]
I take offense to your use of the word "ensure".
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:17:00 -
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There are no 5 Oct patch notes on that page, only the notes for the original "screw everything up" patch and the subsequent, mostly ineffective 2 Oct patch.  |
General Newbold
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:18:00 -
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nice one, im actually posting with my main - im that enraged!!
no patch notes!
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Creat Posudol
Gallente
Eve Dragons
Imperial Crimson Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:23:00 -
[7]
 Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
A full list of updated patch notes can be found here.
The patch notes only show changes for the original Tyrannis 1.1 and the optional patch from Oct 2nd, not for the one you announced (Oct 5th). I just really hope all the PI that broke with 1.1 is getting fixed so import/export works again! Here's to hoping that those problems are a client issue and can be fixed with an optional patch...
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matutina3
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:26:00 -
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not too impressed with last patch thought I was seeing DOUBLE .....oh yes I was double gates double stations as if this game is not complicated enough for a newcomer ......then some of the guns dont work shame on you maybe this last patch will fix it or..........maybe not spoilt my game
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Swidgen
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:28:00 -
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Huh? The patch notes are for last Saturday's optional patch. What's more, at the top there is a version listed (184013) that is already behind what has been deployed (185699). Is it necessary to apply the first optional patch before the new one on the 5th? Is it necessary to remove the one from last Saturday before applying the new one?
Constructive suggestion: You really need to be out in front of this to dispel all the confusion it's bound to generate, and so far it seems to be business as usual. Start with updated patch notes for each of the optional patches and make sure they're complete. Referencing non-existant patch notes = strike one.
As much as this last week has been a fiasco, I ultimately look forward to the UI improvements that will eventually get implemented. So far, though, whatever code changes you're making in this area seem amateurish and half baked. |
Jhoria Englside
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:30:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
An optional patch will be deployed during downtime on Tuesday, October 5 which will fix several issues reported to us following the release of Tyrannis 1.1. While the patch is optional, we would encourage everyone to apply the update to ensure your gameplay is improved. The optional patch will be included in a future client update. A full list of updated patch notes can be found here.
The reason for deploying an optional patch is that these updates contain UI core fixes which are client-only changes in python. This process is much quicker to prepare, test and execute and allows us to prepare a patch much faster than usual. The EVE Online client remains usable whether an optional patch is applied or not.
Following downtime you will see a pop up box once the client is launched informing you that a patch is available and if you want to install. If you click 'Yes' then the patch will be applied and then you can log into Tranquility. If you choose 'No' you will log in to Tranquility directly but none of the fixes will be applied. If you clicked 'No' in error you can still apply the patch by going to the ESC menu, General Settings and apply the patch from the 'Install' button there.
are you that terrible at your job that you cannot correctly link the content, or if the content doenst yet exist that you jumped the gun and the notes have not yet been made? inquiring minds wish to know
Edit: or not
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Lord VonBargen
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:31:00 -
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doesnt this make it tyrannis 1.11? or 1.2... or something...
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:34:00 -
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Is it worth now tracking 4 live version of the client(unpatched, 2x 1 optional, both optional)?
Why not make everyone upgrade to the same version so that issues can be traced easier?
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Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:49:00 -
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I'm hoping that on this list will be a fix for the give/transfer ISK issue where an extra 0 is appended to all numbers entered without manually clearing the default text.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:55:00 -
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Sorry about this but as some of you have already picked up on that there are no patch notes for the Tuesday optional patch. Yet. It took a little bit longer than expected to get this patch together so patch notes have been delayed. CCP Navigator will be publishing them tomorrow.
Zymurgist
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Noun Verber
Is it worth now tracking 4 live version of the client(unpatched, 2x 1 optional, both optional)?
Why not make everyone upgrade to the same version so that issues can be traced easier?
Oh I don't think that will be an issue cause they don't seem to be doing that, if at all.
--Submit your bug reports via mental telepathy this will streamline CCP ignoring them.-- |
Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 23:59:00 -
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Edited by: Corozan Aspinall on 05/10/2010 00:00:48
TBH, I don't get too excited about this stuff normally .. but ..
PI is completely broken. As in mission critical does not work properly. Its costing me and others millions, tens of millions every day you let this go on.
The only reason it annoys me is because PI is, as you know, a click intensive and cascade process. That means when you screw up my ability to use the planetary modules and functions such as exporting goods and importing goods, you cause all the other planets to back up and fall over. I rely on them for t2 production, as many others do.
I don't cry about 'lost earnings' because I don't believe pretend money matters, but I will cry many tears indeed about carefully layed out production plans that utilize the whole creative process from original blue print aquisition, copying (in POS labs which require grind to fuel and defend etc), through invention (including all the datacore grind), to p0 > p1 conversion (in low and null sec requiring hours of hauling in cloaky transports), to p2, to t2 manufacturing, to market to make .. plex .. to do it all over again.
Right now you have screwed up the PI at the critical p2 phase and effectively halted all t2 production from me personally - and probably severely hurt many others not as rich as me and probably greatly inconvenienced the rest who are far richer than myself.
Please take this kind of thing in to consideration when you issue hot fixes and optional patches. People like me don't rage quit, but we do just lose interest when our time is wasted and we aren't actually entertained by the process. 
I said that little emoe whingey ranty wall of tears because .. it was the damn optional patch that broke the PI. The 1.1 deployment was fine for me! D'oh.
Short of reinstalling the client and not applying the patches, its not looking good for me being paid up next month. *sniff
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PC l0adletter
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Posted - 2010.10.05 00:39:00 -
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CCP you fail. Again.
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LoRDa RaMOs
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.10.05 00:47:00 -
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First off, really hope this helps, because these are not the standards we're used to from CCP. No wonder where the CSM proposal for the "Commit to excellence" came from...
Second, unheard solutions for unheard issues. And "Optional"?, "Client remains usable"?, are your standards that low now.???
It's good to see that you're acting kind of fast but, what good does it make if things go down with every patch? I really hope for the best but, recent facts don't seem to be backing these expectations for this humble player in particular.
Very Dissapointed 
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Gatsukama
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Posted - 2010.10.05 00:57:00 -
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Any chance of a devblog covering:
1. Your QA process in general,
2. The Tyrannis 1.1 patch,
3. The two (so far) optional patches: why they are optional, etc.
4. The optional patch mechanism: why do you have it, benefits, extra workload?
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Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.10.05 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: PC l0adletter
CCP you fail. Again.
I'm going to point out something from the player to player side, to change from directing vitriol to CCP. PC l0adletter here expressed frustration, but it's not something that could be addressed in any way. Hence, not part of the process for doing anything constructive.
One post above, I see a longer post, but very useful in detailing what the effects of the problem patch have been for him. Well thought-out, well expressed. I can't say that I'd match that level of discourse with each post, but it's a better example than just lashing out as my quoted post has done.
/rant off.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2010.10.05 01:07:00 -
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Thanks for the patch \o/
I feel your pain, I'm going through my own horrible update problems at work....some random windows update in the last couple weeks screwed up a bunch of code that has been working for years...and I accidentally released some crap I was in the middle of working on...didn't find out that I missed a spot when commenting stuff out to keep the code from working half way through the day today :(
Originally by: captain foivos
Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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Einear Lightfingers
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Posted - 2010.10.05 02:45:00 -
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Is this another of CCP's craptastic patches that fixes PVP and little else. Glad you actually test (not apparent) before releasing suspect code. Minor patch followed by two fix patches with release notes that won't be released until the patch is released. Too little too late I guess. Even Microsoft admits to their failures how CCP take a stand admit they screwed the player community by not rolling back and expect everyone to accept developers failures and still pay you for them. Too many bugs, too many attempted mass testing to fix PVP issues while breaking other areas that worked although not well worked...
To all those who will ask for my stuff, if I quit and cancel my 5 accounts I will pay the fee and transfer my accounts to friends as well as my billions of assets. Not sure EVE is worth playing with the focus that is being given by CCP. Where is CSM? Where are the requests put forward by CSM? CSM means nothing to CCP. They will deploy what they want to when they want to... Epic Fail if you are not in PVP.
List of Broken Things:
* Double entries in space overview.
* Stations and Space objects present in overview from systems long since left.
* PI, Import/Export Broken.
* Longer space load time leaving stations while putting pilot at risk as they are viewable by other players while graphic loading. (CCP cover up.)
* LP Store, unable to buy items 10s of thousands of LP less then you have even though you meet the requirements with both isk and LP.
... Feel free to add what I haven't already encountered, help CCP determine the rest of their bugs they are unable to fix or realease notes for. ...
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Stick Cult
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Posted - 2010.10.05 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Einear Lightfingers
Where is CSM? Where are the requests put forward by CSM? CSM means nothing to CCP. They will deploy what they want to when they want to... Epic Fail if you are not in PVP.
I'm only going to address this part of your post, since the rest is just BAAAAW YOU BROKE MY GAEM. There are actually a few CSM requests included in this next expansion, 14 actually. In this specific scenario, what do you want the CSM to do? Say "Yo, CCP, your patches suck. Make them suck less." Because CCP clearly releases crap patches on purpose just to spite you.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford
my bad. Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Einear Lightfingers
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Posted - 2010.10.05 03:30:00 -
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Really do you read? There have been to articles in popular gaming magazines that quote the head of development as well as the CEO saying that the CSM is important to them but have put the CSM's request on hold for the next year to deliver what CCP thinks will be future off shoots for expansion. I guess you strickly stick to forums and can't be bothered to read out side forums. Can you quote the items the CSM have put forward that will be in the winter expansion or do you plan to stay vague in your view?
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Azeroth Uluntil
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.10.05 03:39:00 -
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Word on the street is that the majority of issues that showed up in this actual patch were also noticed and pointed out on the test server during the testing phase of the patch. If so, why was the patch released in its current hilariously terrible state, and why did the first optional patch not resolve even half the issues pointed out before? Should we expect more of the same from this upcoming optional patch?
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar
Ominous Corp
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.10.05 03:47:00 -
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Yo dawg. I heard you like patching, so we released a patch for the patch that was supposed to patch our patch.
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Cresalle
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Posted - 2010.10.05 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Einear Lightfingers
Can you quote the items the CSM have put forward that will be in the winter expansion or do you plan to stay vague in your view?
Yo dawg, how does links work? How come "14" in her post is different color? Hurrr....
And I think it is indeed constructive at this juncture to rage or even f'ing rage-quit. CCP obviously doesn't give a s*** about their customers as long as new customers keep coming in. They basically said as much to CSM.
TBH I'm starting to wonder why I bother playing this crap, and a lot of my friends are saying the same.
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Demitrios
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.10.05 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Demitrios on 05/10/2010 04:06:18
yay... another optional patch to clean up the option turd-patch to clean up the forced pus dripping patch they squeezed out of their infected udders.
FUN TIMES!
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Wrayeth
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2010.10.05 04:07:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Seth Ruin
Yo dawg. I heard you like patching, so we released a patch for the patch that was supposed to patch our patch.
I'm not normally down with out-and-out CCP-bashing, but this one was clever. 
-Wrayeth
n00b Extraordinaire
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Einear Lightfingers
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Posted - 2010.10.05 04:10:00 -
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WOW! Those are some added benefits by CSM to EVEscape. Only thing really worth while is Rockets balance and that is on the maybe list. You mean to tell me I might be able to rename a ship from across the universe that is in my hanger. Woot! How about more tracking on the market more than the 24 hour roll up? You pointing to CSM success is a joke. That in itself should be posted as Epic Fail. I went to Iceland drank your beer and got players the ability to rename ships. I see a lot of shoulds and maybes but no definites. WTF are you reading?
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Hugh450
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Posted - 2010.10.05 05:05:00 -
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Why has there not been more transparency from CCP regarding the last update(forced). I wouldn't mind that they dropped the ball and released some poor code, that did introduce some improvements but mainly broke a lot of things, if they could publicly take responsibility for the update.
What does rile me is the apparant disregard for the situation and the 'business as usual' appearance of everything. I think that a dev-blog covering the last patch would go a long way to resolving some of the frustration that many players have.
Mistakes happen and that is something that I can accept, but the mature approach is to learn from mistakes made. But what is unacceptable behaviour is when your mistakes affect others (which they invariably do) and your attitude is one of sweeping things under the rug and trying to push them from recent memory.
100k skillpoints were doled out recently to offset some extended downtime, but that downtime was no-where near as long as the 8hr blackout during 1.1. Does this mean that this patch is so bad that we don't deserve a reward for having to swallow it??
CCP I want to like you as the developer of my favourite game but you're making it such hard work!
tl:dr - Dev blog covering the whole recent patch incident, and a little something for the players to say sorry!
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Liandra Xi
Amarr
Ascendent.
On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.10.05 05:35:00 -
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Optional patch applied on both clients, and on both clients I still have the following:
* Stacked chat windows resetting position on login.
* Windows not staying in the position they were moved to when closed.
* Windows bouncing around to other places on the screen when another window is closed.
What exactly is this optional patch meant to do again? Because it sure as hell doesn't appear to have fixed anything on my clients.
Advise please CCP.
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Mace Wingate
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Posted - 2010.10.05 05:45:00 -
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As soon as we patch things up there will be... nothing to see here. 
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Supai Arkasi
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Posted - 2010.10.05 07:54:00 -
[34]
There was a growing anger inside me, but then my hearth filled with sadness.
This is so sad, this is a whole new level of fail, I have no words to describe it.
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Asketus
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Posted - 2010.10.05 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Asketus on 05/10/2010 08:35:19
Edited by: Asketus on 05/10/2010 08:35:03
Edited by: Asketus on 05/10/2010 08:33:53
If its no phishing attempt everything is ok.
And if it doesn't reduce roid spawn!!!
Ommm
(Don't drink and warp!)
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Marcus Caspius
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Posted - 2010.10.05 08:37:00 -
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Shame on you CCP! Your Software Quality Assurance processes are - well down right useless... 
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Facist Monk
Caldari
East Khanid Trading
Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.05 08:56:00 -
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guys, stop complaining!! FFS!
Does it really matter what the patch is?? No!
Can you wait? yes!
Do you have choice but to wait? yes!
Just be glad the patching process doesn't take forever and the whole of tq doesnt go offline for 3 days at a time!
Stop complain or STFU!
Join KTS www.eastkhanid.co.uk and be who you want to be! |
Unberufen
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Posted - 2010.10.05 08:58:00 -
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CCP fatally youbnulosya!!
3rd patch on the patch, and each patch bring more and more new and old (!!) bugs :(
by the way, why they call them "optinal" !?
looks like EVE's goes down faster and faster ... best time of the game was far away ...
@CCP
change dev/qa team, or close the game!!!
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alesha 303
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Posted - 2010.10.05 08:59:00 -
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List of Broken Things:
* Double entries in space overview.
* Stations and Space objects present in overview from systems long since left.
* PI, Import/Export Badly lagged. Plus some confirms missed out when resetting cycles.
* Longer space load time on session change times like :when jumping into hot mission rooms, low sec gates or undocking, Thereby putting pilot & ship at un-necessary risk while graphic loading. (CCP wont cover our losses as usual.)
* LP Store, unable to buy items 10s of thousands of LP less then you have even though you meet the requirements with both isk and LP.
* Stacked chat windows resetting position on login.
* Windows not staying in the position they were moved to when closed.
* Windows bouncing around to other places on the screen when another window is closed.
* Some windows disappearing altogether and needing a new session change to get them back, if lucky. Or a re-log if not!
* Random individual items on windows missing and requiring a session change or re-log for that skill/ item to reaper in that menu
Apologies if i missed something, with such a long list. I'm getting old prematurely playing this ;p
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Ineeh
Flying Blacksmiths
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Posted - 2010.10.05 09:08:00 -
[40]
Originally by: alesha 303
* LP Store, unable to buy items 10s of thousands of LP less then you have even though you meet the requirements with both isk and LP.
The problem with this window is that the column "required items" (things like tags, modules, ...) can sometimes appear, but most times it's either blank or the lines are scrambled without relation to the actual offer.
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Moritur Secutor
Caldari
Galactic Intelligence Association
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Posted - 2010.10.05 10:01:00 -
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Guys,
slow down PLS.
Let CCP first do there Job.
Other Software Coder say, " this is the Patch, now live with that or di! " CCP brings fast updates for there unlucky Patches. That means, they work on the Problem.
Other Corp`s take your Money an go to the next Projekt or go to Haway drink Beer and f... the Girls on the Beech.
I think the coder where faster then the Information Crew. So lets wait for the optinal patch.
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Ebisu Kami
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Posted - 2010.10.05 10:05:00 -
[42]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
An optional patch will be deployed during downtime on Tuesday, October 5 which will fix several issues reported to us following the release of Tyrannis 1.1. While the patch is optional, we would encourage everyone to apply the update to ensure your gameplay is improved. The optional patch will be included in a future client update. A full list of updated patch notes can be found here.
The reason for deploying an optional patch is that these updates contain UI core fixes which are client-only changes in python. This process is much quicker to prepare, test and execute and allows us to prepare a patch much faster than usual. The EVE Online client remains usable whether an optional patch is applied or not.
Following downtime you will see a pop up box once the client is launched informing you that a patch is available and if you want to install. If you click 'Yes' then the patch will be applied and then you can log into Tranquility. If you choose 'No' you will log in to Tranquility directly but none of the fixes will be applied. If you clicked 'No' in error you can still apply the patch by going to the ESC menu, General Settings and apply the patch from the 'Install' button there.
*sighs* Fine, I'll bite...
Why exactly are these patches optional and not mandatory as it is usually the case?
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Kathleen Layton
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Posted - 2010.10.05 10:48:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Kathleen Layton on 05/10/2010 10:50:20
Edited by: Kathleen Layton on 05/10/2010 10:49:42
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist, Yesterdays post
Sorry about this but as some of you have already picked up on that there are no patch notes for the Tuesday optional patch. Yet. It took a little bit longer than expected to get this patch together so patch notes have been delayed. CCP Navigator will be publishing them tomorrow.
Before or after patching?
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Momitsu
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Posted - 2010.10.05 10:49:00 -
[44]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Sorry about this but as some of you have already picked up on that there are no patch notes for the Tuesday optional patch. Yet. It took a little bit longer than expected to get this patch together so patch notes have been delayed. CCP Navigator will be publishing them tomorrow.
He should hurry up a little bit but it looks to me like business as usual. DT comes with the patch and still no information 
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.05 10:50:00 -
[45]
Could someone explain me what did this latest patch fix? I still have show info boxes always go to center of screen and the sound that should be heard when clicking on module is still absent.
Also, the drag and drop that uses the center of the modules as anchor instead of the left corner is nasty like crazy.
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 10:57:00 -
[46]
Sorry for the delay everyone but the patch notes will be available in about 10-15 minutes. There are a substantial amount of fixes included.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:02:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Seth Ruin
Yo dawg. I heard you like patching, so we released a patch for the patch that was supposed to patch our patch.
ok this one's just awesome
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:03:00 -
[48]
Excellent job CCP
~_~
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:05:00 -
[49]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Sorry for the delay everyone but the patch notes will be available in about 10-15 minutes. There are a substantial amount of fixes included.
Hm.. all good things are 3. Is this #3 of the optional ones? I'm tempted to grab it.
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Corozan Aspinall
Party Time Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:07:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Excellent job CCP
It is tbh. Its only been 3 days since the optional patch broke my game - and 2 of those were the weekend. 
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Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:07:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Vrabac on 05/10/2010 11:13:57
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
A full list of updated patch notes can be found here.
Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
There are no 5 Oct patch notes on that page
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Sorry
Effing comedy gold.
P.S. As a friend of mine just told on msn, Zymurgist's link should have been a rickroll.
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:17:00 -
[52]
I have downloaded said patch, it did nothing, I uninstalled it and still nothing, I reinstalled it and guess what!!!!!! Epic Fail CCP well done you, worst patch you have ever done!!!
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Nopsi
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:20:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Seth Ruin
Yo dawg. I heard you like patching, so we released a patch for the patch that was supposed to patch our patch.
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:20:00 -
[54]
Oh joy another patch I have just seen, waits with baited breath!!!!
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Dellandria
Caldari
I.M.M
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:24:00 -
[55]
Still no patch notes!!
And is the issue of EVERYONE appearing neutral just me? I have odd players that I set personally to Blue showing as normal on Overview....
As for the rest.. nope! Just makes 0.0 that little bit more scary!
Carden Syndicate Director
☻ Rock Popper Extraordinaire
☻ Industry Enthusiast
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Yugo Reventlov
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:27:00 -
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Patch notes have been added now: http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=212
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:27:00 -
[57]
Patch notes are now up and, for your convenience, i have copy and pasted them below. The patch notes can also be viewed in the regular patch notes page.
Patch notes for Tyrannis 1.1 Optional Patch
To be deployed October 5, 2010
Skills
* When moving skills into the skill queue, there was no skill book icon just a blank rectangle. This has been fixed.
Planetary Interaction
* All pending structure placements in Planetary Interaction will now correctly display as yellow icons.
* Scrolling through the processor pin schematic window will no longer affect the planet mode zoom.
* Fixed an issue where exporting via launchpad occasionally failed.
Agents & Missions
* The Loyalty Point store now displays the correct number of required items.
Starbases, Outposts & Stations
* The control tower management window now shows "Put online" and "Change type" instead of "Put" and "Change".
* In the sovereignty dashboard, only the first word in the location name was displayed, this has been fixed and the full name is now displayed.
User Interface
* The password for a chat channel is now shown correctly when editing the details of a channel.
* Fixed an issue where errors would be created while right clicking multiple probes.
* When using CTRL + Up to select previous chat submissions will now place the cursor at the end of the line.
* The move items sound effect now plays correctly.
* The welcome screen for trial accounts is now bigger and better.
* Fixed an issue where stacking chat channels created client errors.
* Message boxes are less transparent so the text is easier to read.
* The alert sound is no longer played when opening the scanner.
* The sound effect is now correctly played when activating modules.
* The People & Places window no longer jumps to the front over other windows when jumping/docking.
* Windows will now retain their size when you open and close them.
* Pinned windows are again persistent after re-logging or closing the windows.
* Snapped windows stay put after closing another snapped window.
* Pinned windows are again persistent after re-logging or closing the windows.
* A stacked window will now open in the appropriate location after closing and reopening.
* The icons on the fitting screen are now sized correctly.
* The snap indicators will now help you again when resizing the window, just like they used to.
* Cargo scanner window size and position will no longer change when you re-scan.
* Fixed an issue where the chat channel window order was rearranged during a session change.
* Tech 3 blueprints now render correctly.
* The labels in the Fitting Preview are now shown correctly.
* The cursor is now located correctly when changing market orders.
* Fixed an issue where the corporation logo creator was off center.
* Partially trained skills now display correctly in the character sheet.
* Copy and paste will now copy the correct portion of text in the chat window.
* Fixed an issue where dragging the certificate planner over a stack of windows created exceptions.
* Wreck windows will no longer open in the center of the screen, but in the same location as the last moved window, or any stack of wrecks.
* The Drones window now renders the action labels correctly.
* Amount/Price columns did not auto-size correctly. They now size themselves correctly so that you can see the full text.
* The Federal Intelligence Office requested their logo back. We had just had our morning coffee, and gave them their logo back.
In Game Browser
* Fixed the 'trust request' notification pop-up from websites
Miscellaneous
* When moving items, the cursor is now anchored in the top left corner of the items, as it previously did.
* System channels, such as Local, now persist correctly and cannot be closed.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Dellandria
Still no patch notes!!
And is the issue of EVERYONE appearing neutral just me? I have odd players that I set personally to Blue showing as normal on Overview....
As for the rest.. nope! Just makes 0.0 that little bit more scary!
That's gonna hurt
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inza onoa
Cruentus Invicta
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:28:00 -
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Why dont they just rollback to Tyrannis 1.0? And then test out things thouroughly before releasing the next patch. Tyrannis 1.1 introduced so many errors, we'll be awaiting fixes and patches for weeks, only to fix the errors introduced with the Tyrannis 1.1 patch.
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Rixiu
The Forgotten Navy
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:31:00 -
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"# When moving items, the cursor is now anchored in the top left corner of the items, as it previously did."
Thank god, I was going crazy about that thing. Win patch-patch-patch for me. third time's the charm ;)
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Yugo Reventlov
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Yugo Reventlov on 05/10/2010 11:32:56
Originally by: inza onoa
Why dont they just rollback to Tyrannis 1.0? And then test out things thouroughly before releasing the next patch. Tyrannis 1.1 introduced so many errors, we'll be awaiting fixes and patches for weeks, only to fix the errors introduced with the Tyrannis 1.1 patch.
Most issues with tyrannis 1.1 seem to be client/user interface issues. My guess is the python upgrade broke more than they imagined (and was not tested properly).
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:32:00 -
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Well if you have worked the magic CCP all good, was getting to the point of suspending my accounts until properly fixed, fingers crossed!!
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Kamara Sertiko
Caldari
Usually Harmless
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:32:00 -
[63]
This is a big step in the good direction! :)
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Karin Harada
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:32:00 -
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Hmm, what about the problem with the Assets window? I don't see that on the list of fixes. If you had it open when docking with a station, it would blank out entirely and then never repaint until you closed and re-opened it.
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Weeman
Caldari
Intergalactic Serenity
Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:34:00 -
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Can we just roll back to apo 1.2? This was the time where eve was still play and enjoyable...
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cleava
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:35:00 -
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CCP is doing a great job.
If you don't like it, go make your own game.
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Kel'Taran
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:36:00 -
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For Reals CCP, is everything you said was fixed in the last patches patch really fixed in this patch or am I going to find most the stuff you claim is fixed to still be broken?
Let us spin the wheel of destiny to find out.....
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tereliss Verr
I have downloaded said patch, it did nothing, I uninstalled it and still nothing, I reinstalled it and guess what!!!!!! Epic Fail CCP well done you, worst patch you have ever done!!!
You can't.. said patch is not available yet.
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Phyrex legio
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Tereliss Verr
I have downloaded said patch, it did nothing, I uninstalled it and still nothing, I reinstalled it and guess what!!!!!! Epic Fail CCP well done you, worst patch you have ever done!!!
You can't.. said patch is not available yet.
I just hope it wudent take them another 8!!!! hrs to get this patch ready togo. Cause i toke a second day of work free for fleet ops. And this is the second time just my luck that you guys are going to patch. So please patch it fast.
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Tereliss Verr
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Tereliss Verr
I have downloaded said patch, it did nothing, I uninstalled it and still nothing, I reinstalled it and guess what!!!!!! Epic Fail CCP well done you, worst patch you have ever done!!!
You can't.. said patch is not available yet.
Yeah just woke up didnt realise there was yet another patch, lets hope this one works......
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Qianzing Yanshu
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:41:00 -
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First patch-notes so far where I liked every single point in it and first patch that was delivered so quick, that I had no chance to get used to all the stupid work-arounds I normally learn to live with as long as the relevant bugs remain...
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Yugo Reventlov
Originally by: inza onoa
Why dont they just rollback to Tyrannis 1.0? And then test out things thouroughly before releasing the next patch. Tyrannis 1.1 introduced so many errors, we'll be awaiting fixes and patches for weeks, only to fix the errors introduced with the Tyrannis 1.1 patch.
Most issues with tyrannis 1.1 seem to be client/user interface issues. My guess is the python upgrade broke more than they imagined (and was not tested properly).
My bets are on some kind of corification of the UI.. the Carbon group carved the thing probably out of the eve-client and now the Eve-Devs try to get the interface working again so that it workandlooksandfeels like before..
CCP?
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Janeway84
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:42:00 -
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Hmm im still a bit of a new player but somehow my user interface has changed to the worse suddenly.
When i mine or use armor repairs I can't see the white loading bar moving, only thing that shows me is a green blinking effect on the repair module or strip miner module that its active...
Does any1 know how to fix it?
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: cleava
CCP is doing a great job.
If you don't like it, go make your own game.
Haha
~_~
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Phyrex legio
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Janeway84
Hmm im still a bit of a new player but somehow my user interface has changed to the worse suddenly.
When i mine or use armor repairs I can't see the white loading bar moving, only thing that shows me is a green blinking effect on the repair module or strip miner module that its active...
Does any1 know how to fix it?
theres an option to turn that circkle timer fx on and off in your interface module.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
An optional patch will be deployed during downtime on Tuesday, October 5 which will fix
*Will* fix? You sure?
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Thanks CCP for cu |
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:46:00 -
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One more quick update for everyone is that should you decide to not install this optional patch, and we highly recommend that you do install this one, the optional patch from Saturday, October 2 will be uninstalled automatically.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Phyrex legio
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:48:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator
One more quick update for everyone is that should you decide to not install this optional patch, and we highly recommend that you do install this one, the optional patch from Saturday, October 2 will be uninstalled automatically.
wuf it be up on 12.00 or els im gona spend my free day difrantly.
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Space Dusting
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Janeway84
Hmm im still a bit of a new player but somehow my user interface has changed to the worse suddenly.
When i mine or use armor repairs I can't see the white loading bar moving, only thing that shows me is a green blinking effect on the repair module or strip miner module that its active...
Does any1 know how to fix it?
If i was you i would ask CCP i have been told there good at that :)
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LHA Tarawa
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: LHA Tarawa on 05/10/2010 11:57:55
I hope these fixes have resolved the massivly higher cpu usage, lag, etc.
All the podding that is happening because they turned the client into a cpu hog is making for good business at he LP store, but has also eliminated my reason for having more than one account.
I used to run 3 clients at 60% cpu on my 2ghz single core. Now I'm at 80+% cpu with one client. Pegged at 100% with 2 clients, and unplayable with 3.
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Rei'ke Mania
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:55:00 -
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F the haters - love to CCP!
Gimme gimme, i want the new patch NAAAUW
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Surricane
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:56:00 -
[82]
use EveOnlineChat
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Phyrex legio
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rei'ke Mania
F the haters - love to CCP!
Gimme gimme, i want the new patch NAAAUW
i dont hate the game eother. i just like to be able to play it and not be stuck in extended downtimes. Its already that horible that we have downtime on the middle of the day here. and they also ussaly extend them durign patching get on your nervs.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Phyrex legio
Originally by: CCP Navigator
One more quick update for everyone is that should you decide to not install this optional patch, and we highly recommend that you do install this one, the optional patch from Saturday, October 2 will be uninstalled automatically.
wuf it be up on 12.00 or els im gona spend my free day difrantly.
My bet is on: "spending the day differently"
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Delarado
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Delarado on 05/10/2010 12:00:03
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that since the last patch when you browse corporate assets in corporate hangers remotely through the "corporation" neocom button and subsequent "assets" tab, any hanger division that you expand automatically goes to the top of the list.
E.g lets say in the corp hanger in Jita you have the following list of hanger divisons:
Ammo
Mods
PLEX
Ships
W/E Else
You expand the "plex" hanger division. Pre-Patch, it would expand and stay in place where it is; between mods and ships. Now, it goes right to the top above ammo, and if you then expand a hanger division below it, that one goes to the top.
This is extremely annoying. Is it gonna be fixed?!
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Phyrex legio
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Posted - 2010.10.05 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Phyrex legio
Originally by: CCP Navigator
One more quick update for everyone is that should you decide to not install this optional patch, and we highly recommend that you do install this one, the optional patch from Saturday, October 2 will be uninstalled automatically.
wuf it be up on 12.00 or els im gona spend my free day difrantly.
My bet is on: "spending the day differently"
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Couger 911
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: cleava
CCP is doing a great job.
If you don't like it, go make your own game.
have visions of this one bent over an icelandic office desk
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Phyrex legio
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Phyrex legio
Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Phyrex legio
Originally by: CCP Navigator
One more quick update for everyone is that should you decide to not install this optional patch, and we highly recommend that you do install this one, the optional patch from Saturday, October 2 will be uninstalled automatically.
wuf it be up on 12.00 or els im gona spend my free day difrantly.
My bet is on: "spending the day differently"
itsd 12.00 *****es open the servers.
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:01:00 -
[89]
Just had a look at the patch notes, really optimistic!
But i would like to take a moment to speak for those who were in the issues threads telling people that they were overreacting by telling CCP what their issues were and that they should look through the bugs to see the gem of a game.
On behalf of these people i would like to request all the bugs be immediately re-introduced to keep this extra level of enjoyment in the game!!!!
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hercules fitch
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: hercules fitch on 05/10/2010 12:03:39
*website screwed up my quote/post and too tired/lazy to rewrite it*
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ImInNeNt
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:02:00 -
[91]
i'm sure ccp know what shifts i work because every update is when i'm off work so i can't play?
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Rei'ke Mania
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:03:00 -
[92]
Sure it sux waiting , but then agien... seen what we get, for well... an hours w8!! :)
\o/\o/\o/
Excuse the english - Dane in da Houus!
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Delarado
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:03:00 -
[93]
I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that since the last patch when you browse corporate assets in corporate hangers remotely through the "corporation" neocom button and subsequent "assets" tab, any hanger division that you expand automatically goes to the top of the list.
E.g lets say in the corp hanger in Jita you have the following list of hanger divisons:
Ammo
Mods
PLEX
Ships
W/E Else
You expand the "plex" hanger division. Pre-Patch, it would expand and stay in place where it is; between mods and ships. Now, it goes right to the top above ammo, and if you then expand a hanger division below it, that one goes to the top.
This is extremely annoying. Is it gonna be fixed?!
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Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:04:00 -
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Patch notes look impressive and nearly everything is mentioned except double objects in the overview (which I saw only once, clearing cache and relogging fixed that).
Cluster is not accepting connections though, so I hope the dozen or so players connected are CCP testing out the new patch.
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:04:00 -
[95]
Tuesday, October 5, 12:03 UTC - Tranquility downtime will be extended to 12:10 UTC.
Frikken lol
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Mistress Mirrabell
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:05:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Palovana
Patch notes look impressive and nearly everything is mentioned except double objects in the overview (which I saw only once, clearing cache and relogging fixed that).
Cluster is not accepting connections though, so I hope the dozen or so players connected are CCP testing out the new patch.
Ah yes cause CCP and Testing go hand in hand
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:05:00 -
[97]
QA will wave it through
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Silent Shaz
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:06:00 -
[98]
There's no sense crying over every mistake.
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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Holysweet
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:06:00 -
[99]
As much as i understand the rage,annoyance,frustration and all other feelings that come with the game not working as intended...
I also know that how ever much they test and try to make sure that things won't go wrong.. it takes 1 typo for the **** to hit the fan....
and even if its programmed *perfectly* then still stuff will happen when it interacts with different computersetups.
CCP shows us devotion by giving us patches as fast as they can sadly this also means that they get overworked and prolly make mistakes faster.
Hope this patch is a good one :)
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Delarado
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:06:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Aeronwen Carys
Tuesday, October 5, 12:03 UTC - Tranquility downtime will be extended to 12:10 UTC.
Frikken lol
Quotin' for the lolz. Made me chuckle too.
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Malicious Manifesto
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:07:00 -
[101]
On more quick update!
All cry babies be located through agents and suicide ganked!
So please keep the tears coming
Its a patch - they blew it, they're fixing it. Get over yourselves. |
Bad Princess
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:07:00 -
[102]
I just wanna play a game that, when 'patched', is available at the advertised times, and said 'patch' has been thoroughly tested before being released into the wild.
Is that really so damn much to ask?
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bormand
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:07:00 -
[103]
This should be the first patch Made in China... ( explains the mess)
This is the price we have to pay for "cutting expenses "
If I am completely wrong, please accept my apologies.
If I am completely right, I accept yours.
Fly safe. :)
R. |
yolanda tns
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:09:00 -
[104]
Originally by: bormand
This should be the first patch Made in China... ( explains the mess)
This is the price we have to pay for "cutting expenses "
If I am completely wrong, please accept my apologies.
If I am completely right, I accept yours.
Fly safe. :)
amin
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:09:00 -
[105]
Apologies for the slight delay but Tranquility is now accepting connections.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Aeronwen Carys
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:11:00 -
[106]
yay
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Phyrex legio
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:11:00 -
[107]
THANK YOU CCP FOR NOT LETTING ME WAIT 8 HRS BIG KISS SORRY FOR THE FLAMING LOVE YOU BFF I MIS YOU HUGZ \O/ 
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:12:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Bad Princess
I just wanna play a game that, when 'patched', is available at the advertised times, and said 'patch' has been thoroughly tested before being released into the wild.
Is that really so damn much to ask?
..read the EULA/TOS.
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Vedje
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:12:00 -
[109]
I Believe we all have suffered quite a lot under recent changed
Which have not brought anything new and exciting additions,
In fact brought more issues which had to be corrected all over again.
So as a sign of good will, and appreciation for our patience
it would be very appropriate and very generous off ccp to perhaps
reward us with some free SP <3
Vedje
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Man'O' War
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:12:00 -
[110]
The confidence in CCP is so low right now, that even the usual asskissers ain posting anymore. Thats something which really has to bother these lamers in CCP. There should be a reason for the latest epic fails. I guess some major changes has been made in CCP staff and they seams to be VERY unsuccessful. Evevn no we are going to see another epic fail: an "optional" patch taking much longer than expected.
Guys from CCP, if you are not able to do your damn job, LEAVE FFS!!!
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:12:00 -
[111]
GREAT! I can't wait to see what you have broken this time.
~_~
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:14:00 -
[112]
Now it's getting confusing. I already downloaded a 5th October patch few hours ago (that did quite nothing tbh) and now there's another? The "for realz" one?
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Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Aethebe0rn
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:15:00 -
[113]
This new patch has new bugs, doesnt matter how much LP I spend they just dont go down, I'm in the billions now of stuff It's fantastic \0/ "I'm RICH" waheyyy.... J/K fingers crossed! 
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Raveena Hunter
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:17:00 -
[114]
I just can't see any fixes ... applied patch to a blank fresh install, log in, and windows just dance across the screen.
Seriously...
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Bad Princess
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:19:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Bad Princess
I just wanna play a game that, when 'patched', is available at the advertised times, and said 'patch' has been thoroughly tested before being released into the wild.
Is that really so damn much to ask?
..read the EULA/TOS.
You know what?
You are right.
Screw it. I've just jettisoned all the crap from all 6 accounts into space. You have 2 hours to figure out what systems if you "want my stuff" before the cans all go pop. The ships from each account will be floating nearby, so get yer scanners out.
I can think of a ****load of better things to do with $120 USD per month than tolerate a third class bunch of hacks and their suck-ass fanbois.
See ya.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:20:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Raveena Hunter
I just can't see any fixes ... applied patch to a blank fresh install, log in, and windows just dance across the screen.
Seriously...
It seems it fixed the missing modules activation sounds and the drag and drop in fitting window at last
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Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Karin Harada
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:20:00 -
[117]
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Patch notes for Tyrannis 1.1 Optional Patch
To be deployed October 5, 2010
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User Interface
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* The move items sound effect now plays correctly.
Really? Not for me. I get the pick-up noise, the drag noise and silence when I drop.
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:20:00 -
[118]
Only tested the UI, seems completely recovered, windows behave, pinned or not. Tabs dont switch by themselves or when you chance session. I dont do PI but all the bugs that i had are gone!
Thanks CCP! Im gonna go align to a bookmark for the first time to celebrate!
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Token Prophets
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:24:00 -
[119]
LP store required items descriptions still seem to be missing.
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Varda Ain
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:26:00 -
[120]
I have just uploaded new patch...but instalation was not...as usual for eve...It downloaded,client restarted...but without actual instalation graphic...i am not sure if it is even working:(
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Hatch Penguin
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:27:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Jane Griffin
Only tested the UI, seems completely recovered, windows behave, pinned or not.
Still fubar here. Cargo, arrays, all pop up at a different spot every time :/ |
Prinsessa Ruusunen
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:28:00 -
[122]
LP store still says that all items cost zero isk. Lies!
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Undocumented Patch
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:28:00 -
[123]
Oh Hai
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:29:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Varda Ain
I have just uploaded new patch...but instalation was not...as usual for eve...It downloaded,client restarted...but without actual instalation graphic...i am not sure if it is even working:(
Yes it worked.
As for bugs, I did notice one, new chat windows will open stacked with old ones, but the first chat window you open will still open in the bottom left corner of screen.
Other than that, seems good.
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:29:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Tonto Auri on 05/10/2010 12:30:19
Originally by: Hatch Penguin
Originally by: Jane Griffin
Only tested the UI, seems completely recovered, windows behave, pinned or not.
Still fubar here. Cargo, arrays, all pop up at a different spot every time :/
Confirmed, cargohold windows still jumps to corner, no matter if pinned or not.
Originally by: Jane Griffin
As for bugs, I did notice one, new chat windows will open stacked with old ones, but the first chat window you open will still open in the bottom left corner of screen.
It's normal behavior.
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Thanks CCP for cu |
khalsou
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:29:00 -
[126]
Edited by: khalsou on 05/10/2010 12:31:34
Edited by: khalsou on 05/10/2010 12:30:09
Hello... I am not yet jumping in the air of joy but I have to say the issues I had seems (yes SEEMS) to be resolved.
I have noticed a list of things at bottom of the patch page of what issues were addressed.
oh 1 issue remaining after all (playing and typing at same time LOL) seems the overview window still can not be resized smaller that was something I am sure was able to do before original patch
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Keiko Kusanagi
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:31:00 -
[127]
In station some blues are showing as neutrals - they are still showing as blue in local.
No big deal - just a new effect from the patch to fix that patch that was supposed to fix the patch :)
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Dragon Greg
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:35:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Hatch Penguin
Originally by: Jane Griffin
Only tested the UI, seems completely recovered, windows behave, pinned or not.
Still fubar here. Cargo, arrays, all pop up at a different spot every time :/
Confirmed, cargohold windows still jumps to corner, no matter if pinned or not.
Not just cargo bay here, every lab I try pops up in a different spot. |
Kel'Taran
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:36:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Malicious Manifesto
On more quick update!
All cry babies be located through agents and suicide ganked!
So please keep the tears coming
Its a patch - they blew it, they're fixing it. Get over yourselves.
Heck I will save you the time I am in Jita. Good luck though as I never undock so if you think you can gank me through the station walls go for it.
It is every patch that they blow by the way not just this one.....
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Lemming Alpha1dash1
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:40:00 -
[130]
Patch notes:
http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=212
FYI the market window still doesnt automatically show borders between colums when you select an item.
So you have too double click the right or left border of the colum in which it says price.
Not very handy plus isk value isnt in total view untill you double click the border of the colum.
But for the rest, great quick fix CCP
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Vampire PeterPan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:42:00 -
[131]
I download it but where is it. It wasnt installed automaticly.
I can not be living without making people dieing. |
Aethebe0rn
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:43:00 -
[132]
FYI: Bug in chat window with linking still appears
(Type something, link it, delete it then try typing something else)
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Dr Ouch
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:44:00 -
[133]
Two words: Beta testers.
We are. Yes including me. Will download it and post later for bugs...again.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2010.10.05 12:46:00 -
[134]
*is forced to login twice yet again to be able to post* (Hint: if you can't even make decent forums, how the hell do you expect to make a decent MMO?)
Well, I logged in and my pinned tabbed windows were amazingly - still pinned and tabbed. I'll be damned.
Shame the LP store info buttons are still non-functional, and most other stuff remains broken. I suppose I should be thankful for small mercies, but all I can think of is how you knew about almost all of these bugs back in testing :-(
Well, at least things are getting slightly better... till the next patch, that is.
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Frog blast the vent core! |
Steijn
Minmatar
Quay Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:02:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Aethebe0rn
FYI: Bug in chat window with linking still appears
(Type something, link it, delete it then try typing something else)
if after deleting it you press space, it corrects it.......not exactly a fix, but a workaround.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:04:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Toovhon
if you can't even make decent forums, how the hell do you expect to make a decent MMO?
Their current business model suggests they they don't need to make it decent as long as they keep adding new features.
~_~
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Steijn
Minmatar
Quay Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:07:00 -
[137]
cargo bay working fine now for me as well.
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LHA Tarawa
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:07:00 -
[138]
still a cpu hog. 80+% cpu with 1 client, so losing reason to have muliple accounts.
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Milken Gekko
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:08:00 -
[139]
****
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:20:00 -
[140]
I too find that the client remains significantly more laggy than before this series of patches.
However, this latest optional patch does appear to have fixed a few of the many bugs introduced with the first one.
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Aethebe0rn
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:25:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Aethebe0rn on 05/10/2010 13:26:27
Originally by: LHA Tarawa
still a cpu hog. 80+% cpu with 1 client, so losing reason to have muliple accounts.
I totally agree here!!!
I could run 3 accounts fine on one computer till patch, now I am finding it hard playing 2.. the 3rd is due for Subscription in 8 days so if no Fix no ú I'm affraid as no point in having a 3rd at present.
EDIT: Typo
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Frankie iCoRy
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:26:00 -
[142]
aplyed the new patch...windows sizes are not remembered...I was never raged at ccp or anybody but this is getting to much!? before the october 2nd patch EVERYTHING was fine (for me at least)...
Now it's crap
anoying
i live on the 4th floor and im happy that i have anger management...or else my pc would learn to fly making bill gates richer by every day!!!
can i use the f word pls???? preattyy pls?????
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Raven Mith
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:27:00 -
[143]
I can sort of understand frustration but this game by FAR is the best dam game in any universe compared with any game including WOW. Big frakking deal if they make some mistakes.You will not find a game that can do what these guys are doing. =My 4th year here and it just keeps getting better and better.So get a grip or go bk to WOW.
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Frankie iCoRy
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:29:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Raven Mith
I can sort of understand frustration but this game by FAR is the best dam game in any universe compared with any game including WOW. Big frakking deal if they make some mistakes.You will not find a game that can do what these guys are doing. =My 4th year here and it just keeps getting better and better.So get a grip or go bk to WOW.
how old are you? ten?
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Furnis
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:46:00 -
[145]
BUG: Columns still sort in opposite order as they should. Arrow up sorts from largest to smallest. Should be from smallest to largest.
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Sister Steal
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:47:00 -
[146]
Edited by: Sister Steal on 05/10/2010 13:49:56
Originally by: Aethebe0rn
Edited by: Aethebe0rn on 05/10/2010 13:26:27
Originally by: LHA Tarawa
still a cpu hog. 80+% cpu with 1 client, so losing reason to have multiple accounts.
I totally agree here!!!
I could run 3 accounts fine on one computer till patch, now I am finding it hard playing 2.. the 3rd is due for Subscription in 8 days so if no Fix no ú I'm afraid as no point in having a 3rd at present.
+1
Come on... some windows shouldn't consume 80% cpu especially docked with no station environment!!!!
Wondering now when my pc will die because I play eve :(
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Hugh450
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:54:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Undocumented Patch
Oh Hai
epic 
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Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:57:00 -
[148]
Major memory leak, 6ggb 1333 DDR3 GSkill and eve is chewing 85% of it....
Windows all over the place, everytime you login/out or close windows and reopen multiple times they tend to just all stack in the top right corner.
I engaged a vaga other day to notice there was three of him on overview and 2 of the same stargate.
Patch sux, fail programming. Written by an illiterate irish mans polish money.
/Rage |
Guttripper
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.10.05 13:59:00 -
[149]
The station window will either allow another window to overlap it or it will be pushed into a corner and will not freely move from that position, short of snagging it just right. A bit of an annoyance, but can be dealt with (for now). |
Teibor
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:02:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Gibbo3771
Patch sux, fail programming. Written by an illiterate irish mans polish money.
/Rage
does your money want a banana? |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:13:00 -
[151]
Even after the #2 optional patch is applied, one of my clients is sporadically experiencing the Overview duplication problem when undocking from a station.
I have been able to 'fix' this problem by switching overview tabs.
Fail patch is still fail.
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Milken Gekko
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:16:00 -
[152]
**** this ****
Looks like CCP is a bunch of trolls. They're laughing at YOU right now.
Imagine if you were doing your job like them, how many super fail could you accumulate before getting super fired ?
We should invade Jove space and set everything on fire.
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Tathyn
Minmatar
ADS Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:22:00 -
[153]
I'm also experiencing sporadic overview double-vision. Further, the corporation wallet transaction tab is not showing correctly. When filtering by "buy" or "sell" it's showing items from 2010.09.22. This is new as far as I know. The personal wallet transactions are showing fine with any filter.
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:24:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Bad Princess
all 6 accounts
I can think of a ****load of better things to do with $120 USD per month
Hi Mr Troll \o
IF you're not trolling then you must be really stupid to pay 20 a month per account while everyone else pays 15.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:27:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Bad Princess
all 6 accounts
I can think of a ****load of better things to do with $120 USD per month
Hi Mr Troll \o
IF you're not trolling then you must be really stupid to pay 20 a month per account while everyone else pays 15.
Or pays with plex from ill gotten ISK, therefore costing others money.
~_~
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Ltgould
Caldari
Blazin Shadows
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:40:00 -
[156]
I have had to remove this patch as when you go and lock on a rock and mine after about 1 or 2 min the lock will close on you and you have to re-lock
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Keil metwo
Minmatar
Retribution. Inc.
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.10.05 14:47:00 -
[157]
Personally i think an "optional" patch would have been something like ohh i dunno if you want those pesky lights on your AW computer to work. not something that has to do with the overview. but i'm not here to rant.
for those of you that are getting the double listings on the overview. click in space hit tab twice and it should be back to normal.
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Lederstrumpf
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Posted - 2010.10.05 15:08:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 05/10/2010 15:09:29
Any minor patch NOT introducing new bugs is a win, as finally the end product converges to be bug free.
And even if there is new bugs getting introduced by patches:
If the sum of total remaining bugs decrease, it at the end converges to an excellent product, too!
So thumbs up for the effort of hacking away and trying to fix fast what QA didn't get!
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Gandanga
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.10.05 15:13:00 -
[159]
Optional Upgrades
Build 187703
* Tyrannis 1.1 UI Fixes #2
The following update is a second optional patch for Tyrannis 1.1 and it is highly recommended that all players download and install. A full list of Tyrannis 1.1 updates can be found at the patch notes page.
The first Tyrannis 1.1 optional patch has been removed from the server and all fixes are now included in this second patch. If you chose not to install this patch the first one will be uninstalled as well. Once again, it is highly recommended you install this patch.
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click on the link to `patch notes`
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Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (shellexec) isn't associated with any program.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2010.10.05 15:34:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Toovhon
if you can't even make decent forums, how the hell do you expect to make a decent MMO?
Their current business model suggests they they don't need to make it decent as long as they keep adding new features.
Exactly my dear lady. Other companies have realised it pays to take some time to focus on bugs and polish occasionally, not always on new features. Why can't CCP? Hell - I'm seeing nothing hugely compelling in the next expansion anyway. Who cares if it's put off, so long as we can play now?
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Frog blast the vent core! |
Toovhon
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Posted - 2010.10.05 15:41:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 05/10/2010 15:09:29
Any minor patch NOT introducing new bugs is a win, as finally the end product converges to be bug free.
And even if there is new bugs getting introduced by patches:
If the sum of total remaining bugs decrease, it at the end converges to an excellent product, too!
So thumbs up for the effort of hacking away and trying to fix fast what QA didn't get!
"what QA didn't get"??? The bastards already KNEW about the majority of 1.1's UI issues. Players had reported them during testing on Singularity! They didn't 'slip by'. The fusterclucks in Q&A simply ignored the bloody bug reports LOL
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Frog blast the vent core! |
Teromea
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Posted - 2010.10.05 15:52:00 -
[162]
EVE IME BUG
Japanese input is shifted to the left position is unusual for conversion.
http://eve-files.com/dl/230602
Japanese input is inputted to the input of duplicate numbers below market.
"100" If you enter a numeric field is "100 100" type confirmed.
http://eve-files.com/dl/230603
Please fix soon
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2010.10.05 16:05:00 -
[163]
w00t thanks muchly for this patch, everything seems to be in working order now \o/
Originally by: captain foivos
Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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Elder Thorn
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Posted - 2010.10.05 16:18:00 -
[164]
Hello CCP,
i usually dont do that, but i need to whine a bit:
First you implement a patch, this one was bugged, then you implemented an optional patch for the patch, this one worked for me, then you implemented an optional patch #2 and delete #1, which is from my point of view not a patch, its a refactor and not optional for me but mandatory.
I have now #2 and i just tried to link Characters in an evemail, wont work, unless you mark a few letters before the character names and ignore the last ones.
Looking forward to find more stuff.
btw, it would be GREAT if you bring a mandatory optional patch #3 you provide it in the download area as an offline patch, as my internet connection sucks the first two weeks of a month because german internet companys suck and it needs about 15 minutes per client per computer to download one of them.
So, now that i unvealed myself as a german nerd with multiple machines and clients im just gonna wait until friday or so, when you make a mandatory optional reinstall (redownload) for the whole client.
o/
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Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.05 16:59:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Toovhon
Q&A simply ignored the bloody bug reports LOL
I think whats probably closer to the truth is that the 'man at the top' has his vision of what will happen, and basically, things WILL happen on the dates he has outlined. Im 100% certain QA knew that this would create problems, but were over-ruled in order to keep the whole caboodle running on the deadlines already created/agreed by 'him up there'.
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Cyxopyc
Navy of Xoc
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.10.05 17:01:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Cyxopyc on 05/10/2010 17:05:27
I'm pleased with these patches because...
1. I've seen many EVE patches/expansions that cripple my game play and are not fixed for several months until the next major patch comes out.
2. I like the faster response repair patches with frequent posts from the GMs. I feel like they're listening.
3. These patches aren't available for manual download CCP made them installable from in game. Though I prefer the manual patching this in game install method does work on my linux system!
==
Support fixing the EVE UI |
Nilanea
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.05 17:18:00 -
[167]
I still don't get why you have to Log Into the game to download the patch. Then the client updates itself, restarts, and you have to log in again to play. *shrug*
It appears they did fix things with this second patch. I previously had "lag" when changing characters. When I would select another character the portrait took a second or two longer to change out. Now it works fine. As far as problems with the UI, not sure yet.
CCP thanks for the speedy fix(es).
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Field Walker
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Posted - 2010.10.05 17:23:00 -
[168]
autopatching doesnt work for me, stuck at 98.2%, is there a link to manually download?
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Manssell
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Posted - 2010.10.05 17:31:00 -
[169]
Since this new, new, patch my ingame browser will now suddenly start blinking from a web page to all black.
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Steijn
Minmatar
Quay Industries
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Posted - 2010.10.05 17:46:00 -
[170]
I never d/l patch #1 but have d/l #2 today. I thought everything was fine but am now getting random dc's.
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Zebs Clone
Minmatar
Zebra Corp
United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 17:59:00 -
[171]
still not fixed the issue where when you paste something into a chat, the chat is deselected and you have to select it again before you can hit return.
little issue i know but ****ing anoying
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Max Thunderbird
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Posted - 2010.10.05 19:06:00 -
[172]
Both pre and post October 5 optional patch.
Worked fine prior to original patch, did not use between original patch and October 2 patch which I did opt for.
Activate Residual Survey Scanner 1, appears to conduct scan, pop-up window that should show scan results is more of a pop-up header with a window title and pin/unpin, minimize and close buttons. No survey results are displayed (asteroids were within scan range). I deleted my cache files and the problem persists.
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Reggie Sweets
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Posted - 2010.10.05 19:25:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Weeman
Can we just roll back to apo 1.2? This was the time where eve was still play and enjoyable...
I'm really getting tired of posts like this and other endless tirades about how ccp and/or eve sucks so much. If the game is so bad then go play something else. Why do you continue to pay a subscription for, in your opinion, such an unplayable and unenjoyable game? Who's the idiot?
What sense is it to cry "ccp sucks!!!1!!1 look at them fail again HAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAHAAA444! ...... here's $15..." If the bugs are so 'game-breaking' and ccp is so terrible then do us all a favor stop paying to play a broken game.
If Eve, even with the bugs, is still worth your $15, then bug report it and wait for it to be fixed instead of raging on the forums like impatient children.
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Fielies
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Posted - 2010.10.05 19:56:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Reggie Sweets
Originally by: Weeman
Can we just roll back to apo 1.2? This was the time where eve was still play and enjoyable...
I'm really getting tired of posts like this and other endless tirades about how ccp and/or eve sucks so much. If the game is so bad then go play something else. Why do you continue to pay a subscription for, in your opinion, such an unplayable and unenjoyable game? Who's the idiot?
What sense is it to cry "ccp sucks!!!1!!1 look at them fail again HAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAHAAA444! ...... here's $15..." If the bugs are so 'game-breaking' and ccp is so terrible then do us all a favor stop paying to play a broken game.
If Eve, even with the bugs, is still worth your $15, then bug report it and wait for it to be fixed instead of raging on the forums like impatient children.
^^this :)
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BrundleMeth
Caldari
Temporal Mechanics
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Posted - 2010.10.05 19:57:00 -
[175]
Edited by: BrundleMeth on 05/10/2010 19:59:46
Originally by: Einear Lightfingers
I guess you strickly stick to forums and can't be bothered to read out side forums.
Agreed. I even buy Hustler mag for the articles. Bwahahahaha...
Originally by: Milken Gekko
Imagine if you were doing your job like them, how many super fail could you accumulate before getting super fired ?
If you are in a union you could live by the super fail motto.... and even get promoted. Fired? Never happen...
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Jaehawn
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Posted - 2010.10.05 19:59:00 -
[176]
anyone else crashing alot after today. I cant seem to stay logged on.
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Manssell
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Posted - 2010.10.05 20:07:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Jaehawn
anyone else crashing alot after today. I cant seem to stay logged on.
I am too so far today. There also seems to be a lot of people in the Mac forums having the same problem.
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Ay Liz
Sacred Templars
Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.05 20:31:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Ay Liz on 05/10/2010 20:33:05
There is still that very annoying bug that turns all brackets off. You know, the same way "Hide all brackets" does. The only solution is to relog.
Happens randomly when jumping through gates in empire (i never had it happen in 0.0 yet).
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Jhoria Englside
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Posted - 2010.10.05 21:26:00 -
[179]
popup says its got a link to patch notes. its not, its just this page. that page has a link to the patch notes....or wait. it might, but the link is:
shellexec:http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=212
so yes, as i already said on the first page, ccp are so fail they cant even link correctly. idiots.
Edit: or not
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Ardaeik Marconea
Caldari
Centrelink Australia
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Posted - 2010.10.05 21:28:00 -
[180]
Thanks Im a hapy camper again
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Fenthrick Moss
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Posted - 2010.10.05 22:26:00 -
[181]
Big thx CCP! All function i usually use on UI works correct.
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Random Kayos
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Posted - 2010.10.05 22:38:00 -
[182]
This is what i dont understand? the system is full of bugs and this latest down load is a perfect example of the problems in this game!
when we lose a ship do to our mistake of coarse you should not replace it.
but when we lose a ship or asset due to problems with the game why the hell dont u make it right the gm are a joke!
ccp needs to get its house in order!
and u need to conect with players more than you do!
your! your worst enemy on player count!
and with your new trailer no wonder there is a hugh black market for isk and ships,
u incurage the activity!
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Saratogas
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Posted - 2010.10.05 22:59:00 -
[183]
Cannot auto download 2nd patch, After clicking "Yes" download bar times out.. Ive been forced to click "no" and I now find the earlier advertised option to download later after "Escape" has gone.
Now I p[lay from a Dongle and a full download is what 2gb.. more than 2 months allowance of internet.. yup.. sad but true.. I'm screwed... because CCP don't appear to have actioned a manual patch download.
Please rectify this the game is too buggy to play.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.10.05 23:06:00 -
[184]
Thanks CCP. Things seem to be back to normal now, although I am experiencing a lot more lag recently, even in losec. Not sure what's the cause.
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Enkill Eridos
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Posted - 2010.10.05 23:10:00 -
[185]
I have yet to see anything game breaking with any of these patches. The whining entertains me as it seems none of you really understand this process. They are updating UI fixes with this optional patch. They probably had one or two interns or new employees do it. The bugs are so minor that you guys are making it seem much worse than it really is. I personally have experienced few game glitches and nothing that breaks EVE for me. For those of you (the majority) who obviously have no programming experience let me explain something to you. There is no magical formulas that make games, it takes hard work and many times (especially with EVE since it does seem very physics equation oriented.) people make mistakes. This is not a fast process by any means. It can take the average programmer two weeks to find some very small mistake, either with an equation or with something small like duplication on the overview. The complier does not always find 100% of bugs and glitches. The compiling program only looks for syntax errors, it doesn't check formulas. These guys are doing the best they can, they try and find the bugs based on server logs. It is not like the server tells the programmers what module, and what line of code is giving the glitches. You have the DEV Team looking over lines and lines of code. I am guessing the amount of code that EVE Online has is pretty close to a billion lines of code. Hundreds of modules to make it easier to find bugs. But it can still take days, weeks, months to isolate the bugs. They make UI fixes based on the players responses. CCP has publically announced there is at least three offices all with their own team across the globe working to fix EVE Online's bugs and expansions. I have seen no bugs in these patches that destroy the game for me. You people don't realize that the QA team is doing what they are supposed to. The QA team doesn't fix things they report problems to the programmers. So in short keep your pants on..stop trying to drive people away from EVE and stop trying to make CCP employees look incompetent. That is no way to get the fixes that are needed. I figure I am either lucky to not experience bugs that make me want to quit, but of course I properly maintain my file system. (Clean all the temporary files, delete all the errors in the registry, and defrag all weekly to bimonthly depending on what I am doing. Doing these things really is a good idea when you play PC games a lot.) Don't act like petulant children. CCP Devs do not know where exactly the Bugs are. But with things like this I know CCP is listening to the subscribers that actually try to improve the game. It is not like error messages come with which modules failed what line of code. They actually have to find it, the error messages give an idea of where in the code the bug is. But in my experience no program has given exact code references to where a bug is. So just be patient and if you don't have anything constructive (including constructive criticism.) Then don't say it. There is much more going on than you really think.
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Jedi 0men
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Posted - 2010.10.05 23:13:00 -
[186]
i love this.. lets continue to thank CCP for fixing the problems they caused...
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.05 23:18:00 -
[187]
Originally by: Enkill Eridos
I have yet to see anything game breaking with any of these patches. The whining entertains me as it seems none of you really understand this process. They are updating UI fixes with this optional patch. They probably had one or two interns or new employees do it. The bugs are so minor that you guys are making it seem much worse than it really is. I personally have experienced few game glitches and nothing that breaks EVE for me. For those of you (the majority) who obviously have no programming experience let me explain something to you. There is no magical formulas that make games, it takes hard work and many times (especially with EVE since it does seem very physics equation oriented.) people make mistakes. This is not a fast process by any means. It can take the average programmer two weeks to find some very small mistake, either with an equation or with something small like duplication on the overview. The complier does not always find 100% of bugs and glitches. The compiling program only looks for syntax errors, it doesn't check formulas. These guys are doing the best they can, they try and find the bugs based on server logs. It is not like the server tells the programmers what module, and what line of code is giving the glitches. You have the DEV Team looking over lines and lines of code. I am guessing the amount of code that EVE Online has is pretty close to a billion lines of code. Hundreds of modules to make it easier to find bugs. But it can still take days, weeks, months to isolate the bugs. They make UI fixes based on the players responses. CCP has publically announced there is at least three offices all with their own team across the globe working to fix EVE Online's bugs and expansions. I have seen no bugs in these patches that destroy the game for me. You people don't realize that the QA team is doing what they are supposed to. The QA team doesn't fix things they report problems to the programmers. So in short keep your pants on..stop trying to drive people away from EVE and stop trying to make CCP employees look incompetent. That is no way to get the fixes that are needed. I figure I am either lucky to not experience bugs that make me want to quit, but of course I properly maintain my file system. (Clean all the temporary files, delete all the errors in the registry, and defrag all weekly to bimonthly depending on what I am doing. Doing these things really is a good idea when you play PC games a lot.) Don't act like petulant children. CCP Devs do not know where exactly the Bugs are. But with things like this I know CCP is listening to the subscribers that actually try to improve the game. It is not like error messages come with which modules failed what line of code. They actually have to find it, the error messages give an idea of where in the code the bug is. But in my experience no program has given exact code references to where a bug is. So just be patient and if you don't have anything constructive (including constructive criticism.) Then don't say it. There is much more going on than you really think.
That sure was a lot of effort for a wall of text no one's going to read.
Are you familiar with the concept of paragraphs?
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Lyta Ford
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Posted - 2010.10.06 00:25:00 -
[188]
Patch 1, optional patch 2, and this one all went great for me.
Never really had many problems anyway, some chat windows moved, but that only takes a few seconds to fix. Double overview bug? Sure, clicked on another tab and back, it went away... I really don't see why everyone has so much sand in their vaj...
Seriously, it takes much less brain power and effort to work around these little things that it does to write some sperging mess on the forums about how angry you are at CCP and that the game is going so downhill for making you click something a little bit more and yet you people still do it...
I think you guys need to sit down and realize, "hey, it's an ever-evolving video game, there will be bugs".
If you want to play a finished video game, I hear Super Mario 3 has been done for awhile, it should be good to go.
The EVE community has sadly turned into the WoW community. *sigh*
Oh well, toodles o/
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Bhattran
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Posted - 2010.10.06 00:26:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Enkill Eridos
I have yet to see anything game breaking with any of these patches. The whining entertains me as it seems none of you really understand this process. They are updating UI fixes with this optional patch. They probably had one or two interns or new employees do it. The bugs are so minor that you guys are making it seem much worse than it really is. I personally have experienced few game glitches and nothing that breaks EVE for me. For those of you (the majority) who obviously have no programming experience let me explain something to you. There is no magical formulas that make games, it takes hard work and many times (especially with EVE since it does seem very physics equation oriented.) people make mistakes. This is not a fast process by any means. It can take the average programmer two weeks to find some very small mistake, either with an equation or with something small like duplication on the overview. The complier does not always find 100% of bugs and glitches. The compiling program only looks for syntax errors, it doesn't check formulas. These guys are doing the best they can, they try and find the bugs based on server logs. It is not like the server tells the programmers what module, and what line of code is giving the glitches. You have the DEV Team looking over lines and lines of code. I am guessing the amount of code that EVE Online has is pretty close to a billion lines of code. Hundreds of modules to make it easier to find bugs. But it can still take days, weeks, months to isolate the bugs. They make UI fixes based on the players responses. CCP has publically announced there is at least three offices all with their own team across the globe working to fix EVE Online's bugs and expansions. I have seen no bugs in these patches that destroy the game for me. You people don't realize that the QA team is doing what they are supposed to. The QA team doesn't fix things they report problems to the programmers. So in short keep your pants on..stop trying to drive people away from EVE and stop trying to make CCP employees look incompetent. That is no way to get the fixes that are needed. I figure I am either lucky to not experience bugs that make me want to quit, but of course I properly maintain my file system. (Clean all the temporary files, delete all the errors in the registry, and defrag all weekly to bimonthly depending on what I am doing. Doing these things really is a good idea when you play PC games a lot.) Don't act like petulant children. CCP Devs do not know where exactly the Bugs are. But with things like this I know CCP is listening to the subscribers that actually try to improve the game. It is not like error messages come with which modules failed what line of code. They actually have to find it, the error messages give an idea of where in the code the bug is. But in my experience no program has given exact code references to where a bug is. So just be patient and if you don't have anything constructive (including constructive criticism.) Then don't say it. There is much more going on than you really think.
I read as far as ^, hello yet another know it all 'programmer' come to school people on why it is alleged professionals can get away with releasing broken/buggy products all the while having ignored reports of said bugs from players, you should work on using the ENTER key more.
--Submit your bug reports via mental telepathy this will streamline CCP ignoring them.-- |
Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.06 03:50:00 -
[190]
I suspect that most people who claim to be professional programmers here on the EVE forums are a lot like yuppies with Macbooks sipping lattes in Starbucks and claiming to be professional writers.
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Cheap Dude
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Posted - 2010.10.06 05:45:00 -
[191]
"Look, I am a creative person"
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Slach
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Posted - 2010.10.06 05:45:00 -
[192]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
This process is much quicker to prepare, test and execute and allows us to prepare a patch much faster than usual.
Please begin doing the process of patching RIGHT before you do them QUICK. You are screwing up too much and making your PAYING customers upset... Hello? is this thing on?
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Anel Erajhul
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Posted - 2010.10.06 06:02:00 -
[193]
I chose not to install this patch, but clearly need it now. How do I go back and get the 10-5 patch?
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.10.06 08:28:00 -
[194]
after second patch to a patch:
-overvier wtill seing double
-every time overview doubles Assets window is empty and has to be reopened (those bugs are linked)
-double items in hangar, I docked my pod and saw 2 ibises, deleted one and the other was just a decoy, doing actions on it resulted in message that item is not there :/
-wallet update still re-scrolls orders window
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Liandra Xi
Amarr
Ascendent.
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Posted - 2010.10.06 09:29:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Liandra Xi on 06/10/2010 09:30:05
Thankyou CCP the 2nd optional patch has finally fixed all of the UI glitches I was experiencing, which has made me much happier than I have been the past few days.
For the idiot above (Orange Lagomorph) trying to downplay the significance of the bugs, I can assure you that if you had experienced them it would have driven you bonkers as well every time you logged in one of your clients to find your 10+ carefully ordered and stacked chat windows had all unstacked themsevles and you had manually restack them all, or whenever you opened assets window, or people and places, or scanner, etc.. the window would be in the wrong place and wrong size, or your chat windows resetting in size on login, or when you close another pinned window all your other pinned windows move across the screen and you had to move them back. I can assure you it made EVE very annoying to play during this time, so STFU if you didn't experience the problems and just be glad you weren't affected.
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Prime
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Posted - 2010.10.06 10:01:00 -
[196]
And of course,
the fact that the client STILL CRASHES?
imho a client that crashes randomly CANNOT be used for pvp, CANNOT be used to run lvl 4 missions, CANNOT be used for sleeper sites, or nullsec anything...
which, turns eve into a glorified mining + trading simulation game...
I will not pay for a glorified mining + trading sim, will you?
WHY did you release 1.1 tyranis WHEN YOU KNEW it was not ready???
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2010.10.06 10:58:00 -
[197]
Quote:
And of course,
the fact that the client STILL CRASHES?
imho a client that crashes randomly CANNOT be used for pvp, CANNOT be used to run lvl 4 missions, CANNOT be used for sleeper sites, or nullsec anything...
which, turns eve into a glorified mining + trading simulation game...
I will not pay for a glorified mining + trading sim, will you?
WHY did you release 1.1 tyranis WHEN YOU KNEW it was not ready???
TBH I have EvE crashing once every 3 weeks, maybe you got some technical issue on your side?
Quote:
For those of you (the majority) who obviously have no programming experience let me explain something to you.
Hi, I program for a living since the 70's and I think you are talking BS.
Expecially when CCP states they refactored UI (something usually involving the vision and experienced programmers) but you say "They probably had one or two interns or new employees do it"
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Auditing & consulting
When looking for investors, please read
http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
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Buck Marui
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.10.06 11:17:00 -
[198]
There appears to be some fixes made that are not included in the patch notes, in addition some of the fixes clearly do not work.
At this point I have lost faith in CCP to patch correctly, and so I will echo the words so often told to me by my teachers...
Please try harder. |
Toovhon
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Posted - 2010.10.06 11:20:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Enkill Eridos
SOLID WALL OF TEXT
Christ, learn to paragraph :-D I just gave up a few lines in.
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Frog blast the vent core! |
Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2010.10.06 12:37:00 -
[200]
so, where's the link to download this second optional patch, as my client isn't prompting for it, possibly because I refused the first optional patch..? |
Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.06 13:12:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Daneel Trevize
so, where's the link to download this second optional patch, as my client isn't prompting for it, possibly because I refused the first optional patch..?
esc / general settings (middle/bottom)
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Abonid Walker
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Posted - 2010.10.06 13:16:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Could someone explain me what did this latest patch fix? I still have show info boxes always go to center of screen and the sound that should be heard when clicking on module is still absent.
Also, the drag and drop that uses the center of the modules as anchor instead of the left corner is nasty like crazy.
I share the first problem, second was fixed for me.
* Info always in the center, the same size (too small, btw).
* No sound on releasing items after drag and drop.
However the icon of the item moves out of the way of the cursor (like before 1.1 patch) - at least for me. Also most other issues (windows reseting to top left corner + many other little tricks) seems to be fixed. This second optional patch was definitely right step. Keep them coming. :-) Well done.
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Anel Erajhul
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Posted - 2010.10.06 13:19:00 -
[203]
Quote:
esc / general settings (middle/bottom)
Hmmmmm. all i have in my genereal settings is the checkbox that ask whether or not i want to see the intro movie.
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Daneel Trevize
Black Viper Nomads
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Posted - 2010.10.06 13:34:00 -
[204]
That's the usual not-logged-in settings options. So I tried to log in and bingo, patch offered, thanks. |
Karia Sur
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Posted - 2010.10.06 14:00:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Anel Erajhul
Quote:
esc / general settings (middle/bottom)
Hmmmmm. all i have in my genereal settings is the checkbox that ask whether or not i want to see the intro movie.
log in then look.
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.06 16:17:00 -
[206]
Moved from General Discussion to EVE Information Portal.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Trance Valentine
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.06 18:10:00 -
[207]
Windows still appear in middle of screen when "show info" opted for, neither do they remember where you dragged them to next time.
Someone opening a convo/channel invite still opens said window in the bottom left, too small, doesnt remember resizing either.
Overview still twitching between tabs randomly, annoying when trying to deploy, then use drones.
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Hallan De'estus
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Posted - 2010.10.06 21:29:00 -
[208]
06/10/2010
EVE Online Tyrannis 1.1 third optional patch deployment
A third optional patch will be deployed on Thursday, October 7 to address several issues which have been reported since the release of Tyrannis 1.1.
FIRST? Can it be?
Proposed: New Motto for CCP Q/A
Process is our most important product
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Mechnom
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Posted - 2010.10.06 21:47:00 -
[209]
Quote:
"Patch notes for Tyrannis 1.1 Optional Patch
To be deployed, Tuesday October 5, 2010
User Interface
* Pinned windows are again persistent after re-logging or closing the windows."
NOTE: This is not the case for me. windows seem te reset every time opened. cans in cargohold etc. this problem seems to be solved for different players (according to the help channel) - but not for all. clearing cache didn't work
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Glafri
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Posted - 2010.10.08 15:18:00 -
[210]
Any chance we'll be getting the forward and back buttons on the show info window again(I miss them)
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Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.08 23:17:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Glafri
Any chance we'll be getting the forward and back buttons on the show info window again(I miss them)
They are there. Open your eyes.
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Jane Griffin
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Posted - 2010.10.09 11:20:00 -
[212]
Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Glafri
Any chance we'll be getting the forward and back buttons on the show info window again(I miss them)
They are there. Open your eyes.
Forward and back buttons will and always have disappeared from the show info window if you stack anything other than info on top of them.
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Glafri
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Posted - 2010.10.09 11:39:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Glafri
Any chance we'll be getting the forward and back buttons on the show info window again(I miss them)
They are there. Open your eyes.
I've opened my eyes. Selected several items one after another to show info and the foreward / back arrows are completely missing.
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ViolenTUK
Gallente
Demolition Men
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Posted - 2010.10.12 11:07:00 -
[214]
Wreck still windows don't remember their position.
CCP could mess up a cup of coffee.
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Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2010.10.12 21:03:00 -
[215]
Edited by: Che Biko on 12/10/2010 21:05:58
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