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Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 19:00:00 - [1] Hello Everyone, I've been slightly active on the forums, and have just in the past few months been able to return to EVE. I'm looking to get into auditing on a moderate basis (Still want some time to play my precious EVE). I know that there is a high demand for auditors, and a relatively low number of auditors out there due to both the nature of the work and such. I am more than happy to provide a small or large audit, I'm just looking to get my feet wet in the EVE world of auditing. So again I state, no audit is too small and I know that in order to build reputation it will take time. Which is something I do happen to have. (My day job networking coordination allows me quite some time during the day in which I can't necessarily be playing eve but could deff. be doing something productive that is EVE oriented. Please feel free to leave your comments, good or bad I intend to roll with the punches. Thanks for taking the time to read this. Regards Calypsa
Investment Grade	Posted - 2010.10.08 20:36:00 - [2] Hello, what qualifications and experience do you have?
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 20:46:00 - [3] Edited by: Calypsa Aeurelieus on 08/10/2010 20:52:37 - Degrees In Accounting & Business Management - Perform Accountancy Work For 5 Small Business IRL - As far as un-official qualifications I love to crunch numbers and have been thinking about a way to become more involved with the MD community as I don't personally offer IPO's for my corporation, and this seemed like a good fit. - As far as EVE auditing goes I have never done an official audit for anyone/corporation/alliance outside of doing it for various corporations I either own or have friends in. That is why in your thread I mentioned that you may want to make sure that you have MD support for me doing that audit since I'm a no - name in the auditing world. I look forward to helping out whoever I can whether it's a 100m or 100b bond/IPO/etc. But would understand if I'm turned away from the larger bonds until I am more established.
SetrakDark Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.10.08 20:53:00 - [4] lol scam i'll let some rookie forum warriors connect the dots i cant even be bothered anymore
cosmoray Cosmoray Holdings Corp	Posted - 2010.10.08 20:55:00 - [5] I thought your RL experience is in web site design?? That is the business/service you were offering on September 20th. Would you like to also talk about your other successful business ventures in Eve or shall I just say SCAM.
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 21:02:00 - [6] I do web design, and I'm a network coordinator as a primary profession due to the extremely poor economy. I have no problem not doing this audit or any audit at the MD's request. Just because someone has multiple facets that they can perform does not mean Scam. My website service is just that, a website service. I'm currently beginning work on: www.vindicator.us My corp's website is www.theriptide.net Again as I said I figured that since the bond in question is a decently large sum I would more than likely be turned down for the audit. I would be happy to do an audit alongside someone who has done more EVE audits and then at the conclusion both of us can display our findings and hopefully mine will be congruement with the more established auditor(s). I understand that there is no way to presume I am not associated with anyone else, but all I can do is offer full disclosure. Web design and the like are a hobby of mine. Auditing in EVE was something I was hoping to get into.. though I see how quite poor my timing was since as I was writing amy post semi-afk at work there was a post about looking for an auditor. I will decline to do this audit right now because I do not want to be labled a scammer. However if a more well known auditor would be willing to do a side by side audit (I'd do my for free so the bond issuer wouldn't incur double fees) I would be happy to do an audit and then at the conclusion we both reveal our findings and hopefully that can start to establish some credibility. I'm not looking for handouts and I can roll with the punches but I do hope that eventually I'll start making progress with a reputation.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.10.08 21:53:00 - [7] Quote: I'm not looking for handouts and I can roll with the punches but I do hope that eventually I'll start making progress with a reputation. Reputation should be your last concern. The last months all I read is "grind reputation" "grind reputation" "grind reputation" like someone gives a toss about it. Start doing. The others will flood you with reputation. As it should be. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Slutz	Posted - 2010.10.08 22:04:00 - [8] If your audits are anything like your web design, I wouldn't hire you.
Breaker77 Gallente Reclamation Industries	Posted - 2010.10.08 22:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha Start doing. The others will flood you with reputation. As it should be. This TBH It's amazing how just being active and knowledgeable matters.
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 22:38:00 - [10] I said that I "worked" on some of those sites. I didn't do all of the CSS and formatting and such. I had a lot to do with the auction site though. Well enough said about the reputation, and I suppose you are right. I was looking for another term but I guess what you said about being active and knowledgeable is about right on the dot. I won't respond to negative comments that aren't constructive criticism because I don't see the need to gratify people who choose to make derogatory statements. Especially from someone with an eloquent name such as "****z"
Ren Nekk Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.10.08 22:54:00 - [11] Originally by: Calypsa Aeurelieus I won't respond to negative comments that aren't constructive criticism because I don't see the need to gratify people who choose to make derogatory statements. Especially from someone with an eloquent name such as "****z" Uh oh. Another one of these...
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 22:57:00 - [12] :) Well I don't see any reason to feed the trolls. I've already offered to do an audit side by side with an "Experienced" EVE auditor to prove I can put out an on par audit. Pending the conclusions of something like that I don't see the need to respond to a one-liner.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:03:00 - [13] Originally by: Calypsa Aeurelieus :) Well I don't see any reason to feed the trolls. I've already offered to do an audit side by side with an "Experienced" EVE auditor to prove I can put out an on par audit. Pending the conclusions of something like that I don't see the need to respond to a one-liner. 1) What is the easy to spot business plan "issue" with the Jump Freighters investment? 2) Would you hold 200k Technetium as collateral? 3) In order to demostrate his NAV is compatible with his bond, an investee states he owns 4 BPOs worth 2B each. How do you prove that for him? - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Investment Grade	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:06:00 - [14] I think I would have to decline your offer at the moment, as you have seen everything on MD is reputation. I have post graduate qualifications in business and accountancy, doing the maths isn't a problem. Presenting an acceptable audit to the MD community is. If you can get an experienced Eve Auditor to work with you that I can verify on the forums and is acceptable to MD then you can have a go at my Bond offering once I am ready to present.
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:20:00 - [15] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha 1) What is the easy to spot business plan "issue" with the Jump Freighters investment? 2) Would you hold 200k Technetium as collateral? 3) In order to demostrate his NAV is compatible with his bond, an investee states he owns 4 BPOs worth 2B each. How do you prove that for him? 1) The fact that Jump Freighters are a expensive production, mid rate return, and low movement item. 2) 200k Technetium is approx 16bil worth of ISK @ median market values over the past 360 hours. Since the Bond is for 8-10b as per the Bond Issuer's initial posting, one would presume this would be sufficient collateral. Though I would surely not hold it as I'm not a third party :) 3) API assets checking to see if he does indeed own said items.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Calypsa Aeurelieus Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha 1) What is the easy to spot business plan "issue" with the Jump Freighters investment? 2) Would you hold 200k Technetium as collateral? 3) In order to demostrate his NAV is compatible with his bond, an investee states he owns 4 BPOs worth 2B each. How do you prove that for him? 1) The fact that Jump Freighters are a expensive production, mid rate return, and low movement item. 2) 200k Technetium is approx 16bil worth of ISK @ median market values over the past 360 hours. Since the Bond is for 8-10b as per the Bond Issuer's initial posting, one would presume this would be sufficient collateral. Though I would surely not hold it as I'm not a third party :) 3) API assets checking to see if he does indeed own said items. 1) Look at the daily volume, even in Jita. It's an easy to saturate market, then ROI drops sensibly. 2) Technetium is under speculative focus. It's hot ATM and price is uncertain. Exactly not the best or safest thing to freeze in a station for the duration of a bond. 3) API assets don't reveal whether a BP is a BPC or a BPO, so no. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:35:00 - [17] 1) As I said, with that type of item your return isn't always going to be a fast turn around. 2) Although it is a speculative item, the amount you rendered was (At current values) Up to 200% of what the Bond Issuance was. I don't see the market crashing that hard in that time period. 3) My apologies for lack of clarity. A simple contract test would show whether it was a BPO or BPC (EG: Issuer makes contract for amount that obviously won't be accepted privately to the auditor to show he's in possession of them)
Investment Grade	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:35:00 - [18] In defence of jump freighters they are low movement but there are currently 8 buy orders at good margins in Jita on Rheas alone. The plan also mentions building across all four races so would end up putting 2 per race per month onto the market (selling to buy orders). I think the chance of my flooding the market would be minimal, especially as I wouldn't build if there wasn't any demand.
Thoraemond Minmatar Far Ranger	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:39:00 - [19] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha API assets don't reveal whether a BP is a BPC or a BPO, so no. Generally, aye; but if you saw a stack of four blueprints, you would know that they are still-packaged, un-used BPOs because instantiated items (used BPOs, all BPCs) cannot be stacked, right? á á
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.08 23:41:00 - [20] To my knowledge that is correct as well Thor.
Hel O'Ween Men On A Mission	Posted - 2010.10.09 02:51:00 - [21] You can (ab)use the IndustryJobs API to differentiate between BPOs and BPCs, but that requires that the item is "in production" and not just sitting in a hangar somewhere. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:02:00 - [22] Really? Didn't know that, any specific things you have to do?
Markus Richter Cold Fusion Technology	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Hel O'Ween You can (ab)use the IndustryJobs API to differentiate between BPOs and BPCs, but that requires that the item is "in production" and not just sitting in a hangar somewhere. So there is a way to crossreference the itemID from the asset api with the installedItemID from industry api?
SetrakDark Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:09:00 - [24] Really? No one's taken the 2 minutes required to nuke this whole thing? Shameful.
Gabriel Virtus hirr	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:12:00 - [25] Would you be willing to publicly list your full api info? -GV
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:15:00 - [26] GV, Yes I would be willing to. My alt is actually invested in your current "Trollin' EVE" Bond :)
Gabriel Virtus hirr	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:17:00 - [27] Edited by: Gabriel Virtus on 09/10/2010 03:18:09 Originally by: Calypsa Aeurelieus GV, Yes I would be willing to. My alt is actually invested in your current "Trollin' EVE" Bond :) Well then, we already know that you must be quite smart :) -GV edit: I am waiting for VV to publicly list her full api info. I doubt she ever will even though she has literally nothing to hide - supposedly.
Calypsa Aeurelieus	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:19:00 - [28] lol @ That. Honestly I have some reasons I wouldn't want full disclosure (Mainly some assets that if their locations were known could cause compromising issues to the maintaining of those assets without more security :) )
egola	Posted - 2010.10.09 03:48:00 - [29] well perhaps there are a few people who want to do station trading and doesn't mind their market orders being viewed at? (probably with competition) i can see how some people might benefit from auditing although not so much if you don't already have a name built up for yourself, i can see how its a vicious cycle though
eliaja	Posted - 2010.10.09 07:31:00 - [30] oh how can i put this with out making the elite upset. frak them an there oppinions. if you want a rep grind for the work. let your work speak for itself. once enough people can vouch for you md postings will just be cake. personally i think most of the auditors if not all are scam artist an are better at it remember ebank & dbank. an bet alll ofthem will say that they never vouched for it at best they say they preached caution lol.

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