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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:33:00 -
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I don't really think i have to tell you that eve is in possibly the worst state it has ever been in. Over the last couple of months an estimated 5% - 10% of all players have stopped playing eve, countless alliances and posts back up these figures, including my own alliance. The un-believably boring, click intensive, carpal tunnel inducing worthless waste of space that was the planetary interaction patch has shattered our faith in CCP's ability to produce entertaining game content, along with the soon to be epic failure of dust 514 which yet again nobody wanted. One of the latest running problems is "the patch to fix the patch to fix the patch that didn't actually do anything apart from screw up EVERYTHING".
Nearly everything from pos functions, PI, industry, market displays and even local channels have been effected by this "simple patch", it makes me feel like CCP is actually TRYING to crash eve.
The complete balls up that is the PI system and the other overpowers factors of the economy has caused a complete market crash with nearly every commodity on the market falling in price. Coolant, which has been some what appointed as the bench mark for pos fuel has dropped 40% over the last month on a steady decline and with every day industrialists fighting to break even, the invention industry also broken and ore prices going through the floor, it seems that eve is in a deep depression.
In turn this will mean people who normally run on plexs will find it increasingly hard to do this and may also leave the game.
There are countless ways in which eve is going down the drain, i can't possibly name them all. But what i think the big questions are right now are...
When (and indeed if) EvE will crash?
Where will the eve players go?
And is there anything CCP can possibly do to break a little life back into eve?
Anyone care to take a friendly bet?(PS I'm not accepting your worthless eve credits  ).
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Estel Arador
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:34:00 -
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I'm glad I have some decent earplugs so I won't have to hear the screaming.
EACS, EVE's leading jumpclone service, is FOR SALE |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Estel Arador
I'm glad I have some decent earplugs so I won't have to hear the screaming.
I don't :(
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Sarton Wells
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Over the last couple of months an estimated 5% - 10% of all players have stopped playing eve, countless alliances and posts back up these figures, including my own alliance.
Well you don't really have to estimate. There are statistics on the active users for the past year. Check them and see how they were october last year to see whether people have stopped playing eve.
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Kaahles
Fulcrum Weapon Systems Inc.
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:41:00 -
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So PI is not perfect not really but it crashed the market with everything dropping? Looked at robotics late? They are through the roof o.O
And tbh I can't say invention is broken I still can make plenty of isk with it.
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OMG THE SKY IS FALLING!
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Sarton Wells
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Over the last couple of months an estimated 5% - 10% of all players have stopped playing eve, countless alliances and posts back up these figures, including my own alliance.
Well you don't really have to estimate. There are statistics on the active users for the past year. Check them and see how they were october last year to see whether people have stopped playing eve.
Yer I looked don't worry
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Tyber Zaan
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:47:00 -
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Confirmed, Eve is dying.
Fire in space.
Amarr having drinks with Minmatar.
Etc.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:47:00 -
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lol the OP is nearly as embarrasing as one of my first ever threads here 
I still blush when I see it on EVE-Search 
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popmequick
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:47:00 -
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CCP just think there big enough now to just take no notice of the people that helped build this game in the first place.
there costumer support is a joke now standard copy and paste for petitions,there HTFU attitude is costing them maybe only slowly atm but it will start to go down hill fast
as a player of 6 years i think CCP has had there last out off me
!!!!!LONG LIVE WORLD OF TANKS!!!!!
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Amon Tyr
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:49:00 -
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Awesome news!
This just means when I am rich enough to found my own gaming company, I can simply steal all the great concepts from EVE and present it in a much more user-friendly UI, remove all the micromanagement crap, get rid of the lag, and cash in on the blood and tears of CCP.
???
Profit 
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:49:00 -
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go Black Prophecy! thats where i'm going.
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Tyber Zaan
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Posted - 2010.10.10 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: popmequick
CCP just think there big enough now to just take no notice of the people that helped build this game in the first place.
there costumer support is a joke now standard copy and paste for petitions,there HTFU attitude is costing them maybe only slowly atm but it will start to go down hill fast
as a player of 6 years i think CCP has had there last out off me
!!!!!LONG LIVE WORLD OF TANKS!!!!!
So.....many.....grammatical...errors!
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Amon Tyr
Awesome news!
This just means when I am rich enough to found my own gaming company, I can simply steal all the great concepts from EVE and present it in a much more user-friendly UI, remove all the micromanagement crap, get rid of the lag, and cash in on the blood and tears of CCP.
???
Profit
Sounds like an awesome idea, you go for it :)
+ world of tanks sounds fun...
Watch out world of tnaks! phoenix is comning to play!
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I don't really think i have to tell you that eve is in possibly the worst state it has ever been in. Over the last couple of months an estimated 5% - 10% of all players have stopped playing eve, countless alliances and posts back up these figures, including my own alliance. The un-believably boring, click intensive, carpal tunnel inducing worthless waste of space that was the planetary interaction patch has shattered our faith in CCP's ability to produce entertaining game content, along with the soon to be epic failure of dust 514 which yet again nobody wanted. One of the latest running problems is "the patch to fix the patch to fix the patch that didn't actually do anything apart from screw up EVERYTHING".
Nearly everything from pos functions, PI, industry, market displays and even local channels have been effected by this "simple patch", it makes me feel like CCP is actually TRYING to crash eve.
The complete balls up that is the PI system and the other overpowers factors of the economy has caused a complete market crash with nearly every commodity on the market falling in price. Coolant, which has been some what appointed as the bench mark for pos fuel has dropped 40% over the last month on a steady decline and with every day industrialists fighting to break even, the invention industry also broken and ore prices going through the floor, it seems that eve is in a deep depression.
In turn this will mean people who normally run on plexs will find it increasingly hard to do this and may also leave the game.
There are countless ways in which eve is going down the drain, i can't possibly name them all. But what i think the big questions are right now are...
When (and indeed if) EvE will crash?
Where will the eve players go?
And is there anything CCP can possibly do to break a little life back into eve?
Anyone care to take a friendly bet?(PS I'm not accepting your worthless eve credits ).
if you weren't joe phoenix, I would be inclined to post a constructive reply, and even agree with you.
but you're joe phoenix, so I can't do that. Instead I'll just troll you.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
I don't really think i have to tell you that eve is in possibly the worst state it has ever been in. Over the last couple of months an estimated 5% - 10% of all players have stopped playing eve, countless alliances and posts back up these figures, including my own alliance. The un-believably boring, click intensive, carpal tunnel inducing worthless waste of space that was the planetary interaction patch has shattered our faith in CCP's ability to produce entertaining game content, along with the soon to be epic failure of dust 514 which yet again nobody wanted. One of the latest running problems is "the patch to fix the patch to fix the patch that didn't actually do anything apart from screw up EVERYTHING".
Nearly everything from pos functions, PI, industry, market displays and even local channels have been effected by this "simple patch", it makes me feel like CCP is actually TRYING to crash eve.
The complete balls up that is the PI system and the other overpowers factors of the economy has caused a complete market crash with nearly every commodity on the market falling in price. Coolant, which has been some what appointed as the bench mark for pos fuel has dropped 40% over the last month on a steady decline and with every day industrialists fighting to break even, the invention industry also broken and ore prices going through the floor, it seems that eve is in a deep depression.
In turn this will mean people who normally run on plexs will find it increasingly hard to do this and may also leave the game.
There are countless ways in which eve is going down the drain, i can't possibly name them all. But what i think the big questions are right now are...
When (and indeed if) EvE will crash?
Where will the eve players go?
And is there anything CCP can possibly do to break a little life back into eve?
Anyone care to take a friendly bet?(PS I'm not accepting your worthless eve credits ).
if you weren't joe phoenix, I would be inclined to post a constructive reply, and even agree with you.
but you're joe phoenix, so I can't do that. Instead I'll just troll you.
Yer your not very smart, we get it, go to C&P for that kind of crap.
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Kaaii
Caldari
KaaiiNet Holding Executor Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Stupidity
2003 here, Joe, you don't know worse...
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there.
kieron
Director of Community Relations,
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Stupidity
2003 here, Joe, you don't know worse...
Enlighten me.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Yer your not very smart, we get it, go to C&P for that kind of crap.
I'm sorry I have insulted your amazing and above average intelligence.
I would do that in C&P if you ever warrant a visit there.
seems like it's not very common to see you there, so I had to leave the town in search for you.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Yer your not very smart, we get it, go to C&P for that kind of crap.
I'm sorry I have insulted your amazing and above average intelligence.
I would do that in C&P if you ever warrant a visit there.
seems like it's not very common to see you there, so I had to leave the town in search for you.
Yer your random miss directed ***** rage really doesn't bother me so...
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Yer your not very smart, we get it, go to C&P for that kind of crap.
I'm sorry I have insulted your amazing and above average intelligence.
I would do that in C&P if you ever warrant a visit there.
seems like it's not very common to see you there, so I had to leave the town in search for you.
Yer your random miss directed ***** rage really doesn't bother me so...
jolly good then, my good man.
lets continue to debate your thread that reeks of repetitive diatribe.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Kaaii
Caldari
KaaiiNet Holding Executor Corp
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Kaaii
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Stupidity
2003 here, Joe, you don't know worse...
There is not enough time in the world, it would take ages 
Enlighten me.
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there.
kieron
Director of Community Relations,
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:28:00 -
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I wouldn't be surprised if we had a plateu or a dip in subscribers during this time. We haven't seen interesting gameplay additions in some time, performance had been going down hill for some time and is still below what it used to be, patches break more than they fix, intorduction of microtransactions and loads of new MMOs coming to market or coming soon. Loads of negatives pushing things down and little to be optimistic about. Good time to take a break or leave for a while and see if the grass really is greener elsewhere.
On the positive side there isn't a serious long term competitor to EVE at the moment. There are loads of games now and coming soon that I will try, but nothing even attempts to offer what EVE does and EVE's fundamentals are still there. EVE should be fine if CCP doesn't go bat**** insane with their microtransactions cash grab or manage to really break the game with their future expansions and ignore player requests for fixes.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:30:00 -
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I'm mostly here to show of my sig to fetch some support or at least bumps for the thread in the AH..
But yeah. EVE is dying. Must be true this time. Joe Phoenix said it on the Forumz!
New Eden needs a Public Feature/Idea/Bug-Tracker |
Michael Scar
Caldari
Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:32:00 -
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I just started a new account with power of 2.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue
I wouldn't be surprised if we had a plateu or a dip in subscribers during this time. We haven't seen interesting gameplay additions in some time, performance had been going down hill for some time and is still below what it used to be, patches break more than they fix, intorduction of microtransactions and loads of new MMOs coming to market or coming soon. Loads of negatives pushing things down and little to be optimistic about. Good time to take a break or leave for a while and see if the grass really is greener elsewhere.
On the positive side there isn't a serious long term competitor to EVE at the moment. There are loads of games now and coming soon that I will try, but nothing even attempts to offer what EVE does and EVE's fundamentals are still there. EVE should be fine if CCP doesn't go bat**** insane with their microtransactions cash grab or manage to really break the game with their future expansions and ignore player requests for fixes.
I do hear of some awesome games ooming to the market, but then again there is a real world out there remember?
And to the guy who just bought a new account, its your money to waste.
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Snowmann
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Posted - 2010.10.10 17:54:00 -
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Even if it's true, it's only natural for a company to have plateaus or even regressions over its lifetime.
But, for a portion of a playerbase to say that it is due to the company not implementing their favorite pet project; that is deceptive at best. Many things cause players to stop playing.
And if it is due to the game getting a bit buggier from time to time, then good ridance. All "living" software will eventually have issues with being a bit buggy a times. If they can't hack it, they should find something else to play.
No company in its right mind would start catering to the loudest voices on their forums. The reason the forums are the way they are today is most likely due to some players thinking that if they cry loud enough they will get what they want. IE, "...if you don't do this, me with my 10 alts and my 100 friends with their 10 alts will quite...."
Kind of childish to be honest. But maybe somewhat expected when you consider the minium age required to play Eve.
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Joe Phoenix
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Posted - 2010.10.10 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Snowmann
Even if it's true, it's only natural for a company to have plateaus or even regressions over its lifetime.
But, for a portion of a playerbase to say that it is due to the company not implementing their favorite pet project; that is deceptive at best. Many things cause players to stop playing.
And if it is due to the game getting a bit buggier from time to time, then good ridance. All "living" software will eventually have issues with being a bit buggy a times. If they can't hack it, they should find something else to play.
No company in its right mind would start catering to the loudest voices on their forums. The reason the forums are the way they are today is most likely due to some players thinking that if they cry loud enough they will get what they want. IE, "...if you don't do this, me with my 10 alts and my 100 friends with their 10 alts will quite...."
Kind of childish to be honest. But maybe somewhat expected when you consider the minium age required to play Eve.
So your saying no company in their right mind would give the paying customer what they want?
p.s don't go into business.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
The Chamber of Commerce
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Posted - 2010.10.10 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Snowmann
Even if it's true, it's only natural for a company to have plateaus or even regressions over its lifetime.
But, for a portion of a playerbase to say that it is due to the company not implementing their favorite pet project; that is deceptive at best. Many things cause players to stop playing.
And if it is due to the game getting a bit buggier from time to time, then good ridance. All "living" software will eventually have issues with being a bit buggy a times. If they can't hack it, they should find something else to play.
No company in its right mind would start catering to the loudest voices on their forums. The reason the forums are the way they are today is most likely due to some players thinking that if they cry loud enough they will get what they want. IE, "...if you don't do this, me with my 10 alts and my 100 friends with their 10 alts will quite...."
Kind of childish to be honest. But maybe somewhat expected when you consider the minium age required to play Eve.
So your saying no company in their right mind would give the paying customer what they want?
p.s don't go into business.
newsflash: people don't know what they want.
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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.
ain't that right. |
Lyta Ford
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Posted - 2010.10.10 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Snowmann
Even if it's true, it's only natural for a company to have plateaus or even regressions over its lifetime.
But, for a portion of a playerbase to say that it is due to the company not implementing their favorite pet project; that is deceptive at best. Many things cause players to stop playing.
And if it is due to the game getting a bit buggier from time to time, then good ridance. All "living" software will eventually have issues with being a bit buggy a times. If they can't hack it, they should find something else to play.
No company in its right mind would start catering to the loudest voices on their forums. The reason the forums are the way they are today is most likely due to some players thinking that if they cry loud enough they will get what they want. IE, "...if you don't do this, me with my 10 alts and my 100 friends with their 10 alts will quite...."
Kind of childish to be honest. But maybe somewhat expected when you consider the minium age required to play Eve.
So your saying no company in their right mind would give the paying customer what they want?
p.s don't go into business.
newsflash: people don't know what they want.
Pretty much that right there.
OP:
We get it, you don't like PI. Tough. Some people do.
You don't like Dust? Tough, start working for CCP to influence what products they're making.
You don't understand what CCP is trying to with all of these patches. It's called code refactoring. I'd ask you to read and educate yourself, but considering you haven't done that yet, I don't have much hope.
In short, Eve is fine, I hope you do quit; but we all know you wont.
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Dead Jesus
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Posted - 2010.10.10 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Snowmann
Even if it's true, it's only natural for a company to have plateaus or even regressions over its lifetime.
But, for a portion of a playerbase to say that it is due to the company not implementing their favorite pet project; that is deceptive at best. Many things cause players to stop playing.
And if it is due to the game getting a bit buggier from time to time, then good ridance. All "living" software will eventually have issues with being a bit buggy a times. If they can't hack it, they should find something else to play.
No company in its right mind would start catering to the loudest voices on their forums. The reason the forums are the way they are today is most likely due to some players thinking that if they cry loud enough they will get what they want. IE, "...if you don't do this, me with my 10 alts and my 100 friends with their 10 alts will quite...."
Kind of childish to be honest. But maybe somewhat expected when you consider the minium age required to play Eve.
So your saying no company in their right mind would give the paying customer what they want?
p.s don't go into business.
Any company that just gave people what they wanted, would be out of business pretty damn quick. Business is founded on making people want what you give them.
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