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Jhestre
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Posted - 2010.10.16 00:21:00 -
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I was in my Hurricane and another player in a Hurricane decided it would be fun to fight me in high sec and picked up my can. I orbited at 18k and broke him down. He was heavily armor tanked and decided that since he couldn't catch me or escape, he would self destruct. I won the fight, I risked my ship, but I got no kill mail. This needs to be fixed.
And to anyone who says: "If you can't kill him in 2 minutes you don't deserve a kill mail."
You are wrong. Kiting is a viable tactic and the game mechanics regarding self destruct and kill mails need to be fixed. To be robbed of what would have been my best kill mail yet by a flaw in the game mechanics is wrong. CCP, please fix this issue.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.10.16 00:27:00 -
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Confirming you're a douchT bag.
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Tekitha
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.16 00:28:00 -
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you are right, self destructing to avoid killmails is one of the most pathetic things in eve!
however, I struggle to understand how you couldn't kill a cane in under 2 minutes with a cane of your own. You could probably have gone in a bit closer, to say 12km?, and improved your DPS by reducing how far into fall off you were. I'd be interested to know your fit and, if possible, his?
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Jhestre
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Posted - 2010.10.16 00:30:00 -
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Also, I don't care about the loot that is destroyed. I think 3 things need to happen here.
1. A killmail is generated awarding full points and logging all damage done in combat.
2. The Killmail should inform that self destruct took place.
3. No insurance payout to Self Destructing players. (As an added bonus this will help keep in game inflation down!)
If a player is trapped and doesn't want to wait to be blown up, let them self destruct, but don't punish players who use kiting as a tactic.
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Jhestre
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Posted - 2010.10.16 00:37:00 -
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He was heavily armor tanked and I was keeping range to maintain my shield tank and avoid his guns. I was fitted for speed and long lasting cap for mwd. My fitting worked beautifully until the coward decided to use flawed game mechanics to escape a kill mail.
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Tekitha
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.10.16 00:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Jhestre
He was heavily armor tanked and I was keeping range to maintain my shield tank and avoid his guns. I was fitted for speed and long lasting cap for mwd. My fitting worked beautifully until the coward decided to use flawed game mechanics to escape a kill mail.
fair enuff, but even a non gank fit cane (particularly shield tanked) should be putting out at least 400 DPS from 18km, which should more than suffice breaking even the heaviest of armor tanks that a cane can put up in 2 minutes, I'm confused.
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Roosterton
Internet Spaceship Raiders
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Posted - 2010.10.16 00:59:00 -
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Better idea, remove all killmails.
All it does is encourage E-peen warriors to grow their E-peen, while adding no fun-value to the game.
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Merdaneth
Amarr
Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.10.16 01:52:00 -
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You want a Hurricane killmail? Is it okay if make one up and send you it?
Really, if you just fake a killmail of that ship, you'll have both the mail to show to others and the knowledge of having beaten that other Cane.
Think hard about why you really want that mail. Think really hard about what the difference is between getting the mail, and not getting it. Think really hard why not getting a killmail is ****ing you off. What is your issue with not getting the mail? Why do you need it?
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HellFiretrader
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Posted - 2010.10.16 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jhestre
And to anyone who says: "If you can't kill him in 2 minutes you don't deserve a kill mail."
You are wrong. Kiting is a viable tactic and the game mechanics regarding self destruct and kill mails need to be fixed. To be robbed of what would have been my best kill mail yet by a flaw in the game mechanics is wrong. CCP, please fix this issue.
Well if were going to throw viable tactic's around. I think self destructing falls in this category.
Its sad that ppl think that kill mails show how skilled they are. You know you could just fake one, if its that big of a deal.
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Sully Tude
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Posted - 2010.10.16 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton
Better idea, remove all killmails.
All it does is encourage E-peen warriors to grow their E-peen, while adding no fun-value to the game.
This.
@ OP: Are you so pathetic that you require a lousy piece of code to validate your entire existance?
Get over it.
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Mara Saikousai
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Posted - 2010.10.16 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton
Better idea, remove all killmails.
All it does is encourage E-peen warriors to grow their E-peen, while adding no fun-value to the game.
+1
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Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Red Whine
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Posted - 2010.10.16 03:22:00 -
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Originally by: Jhestre
I was in my Hurricane and another player in a Hurricane decided it would be fun to fight me in high sec and picked up my can. I orbited at 18k and broke him down. He was heavily armor tanked and decided that since he couldn't catch me or escape, he would self destruct. I won the fight, I risked my ship, but I got no kill mail. This needs to be fixed.
And to anyone who says: "If you can't kill him in 2 minutes you don't deserve a kill mail."
You are wrong. Kiting is a viable tactic and the game mechanics regarding self destruct and kill mails need to be fixed. To be robbed of what would have been my best kill mail yet by a flaw in the game mechanics is wrong. CCP, please fix this issue.
Technically you didn't kill him. He blew himself up, so you don't get a kill mail since you didn't kill him.
Kiting is a viable tactic but it reduces ur damage. U get a message when someone self destructs which would be a good time for you to change range and increase ur dps. If you didn't do that because you were worried he might kill you close range then...
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Aerilis
Gallente
Percussive Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.10.16 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Jhestre
I was in my Hurricane and another player in a Hurricane decided it would be fun to fight me in high sec and picked up my can. I orbited at 18k and broke him down. He was heavily armor tanked and decided that since he couldn't catch me or escape, he would self destruct. I won the fight, I risked my ship, but I got no kill mail. This needs to be fixed.
And to anyone who says: "If you can't kill him in 2 minutes you don't deserve a kill mail."
You are wrong. Kiting is a viable tactic and the game mechanics regarding self destruct and kill mails need to be fixed. To be robbed of what would have been my best kill mail yet by a flaw in the game mechanics is wrong. CCP, please fix this issue.
Technically you didn't kill him. He blew himself up, so you don't get a kill mail since you didn't kill him.
Kiting is a viable tactic but it reduces ur damage. U get a message when someone self destructs which would be a good time for you to change range and increase ur dps. If you didn't do that because you were worried he might kill you close range then...
You caused him to kill himself. If you gank a mission runner in low sec and a rat gets the killing blow... guess who gets the killmail?
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.10.16 05:41:00 -
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Not this stupid arguement again...
Agreed it is a flawed mechanic. Everyone that self destructs successfully should be getting a KM that they killed themselves. Otherwise.. if you can't get the job done, tough ****.
The reward is you survived and abtained knowledge your fit works, as well as added experince of flying it in a particular scenario and will be successfully again if performed in the same manner. Go outside and join a sport if you want meaningful stats that actually help promote your health and over all general well being. KMs are useless.. there are people sitting in Arnon, a rookie hub preying on them.. all for the sole purpose of KM whoring their meaningless stats. As if fighting noob players all the time is actually going to make a decent PvP player a legit Pro pvp'er.
Besides.. the better stories are the ones of escaping against odds, winning against odds, and making leet wannabes cry over spilled milk.
/signed for removal of KMs.
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2010.10.16 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Aerilis
Originally by: Infinity Ziona
Originally by: Jhestre
I was in my Hurricane and another player in a Hurricane decided it would be fun to fight me in high sec and picked up my can. I orbited at 18k and broke him down. He was heavily armor tanked and decided that since he couldn't catch me or escape, he would self destruct. I won the fight, I risked my ship, but I got no kill mail. This needs to be fixed.
And to anyone who says: "If you can't kill him in 2 minutes you don't deserve a kill mail."
You are wrong. Kiting is a viable tactic and the game mechanics regarding self destruct and kill mails need to be fixed. To be robbed of what would have been my best kill mail yet by a flaw in the game mechanics is wrong. CCP, please fix this issue.
Technically you didn't kill him. He blew himself up, so you don't get a kill mail since you didn't kill him.
Kiting is a viable tactic but it reduces ur damage. U get a message when someone self destructs which would be a good time for you to change range and increase ur dps. If you didn't do that because you were worried he might kill you close range then...
You caused him to kill himself. If you gank a mission runner in low sec and a rat gets the killing blow... guess who gets the killmail?
You do. I think the same happens with CONCORD as well, but that's something to be tested. 
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Cartheron Crust
Nemesis Nation
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Posted - 2010.10.16 06:52:00 -
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Remove killmails from the game. |
Jones Bones
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2010.10.16 14:44:00 -
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If your shield cane can't break an armor cane in 2 minutes......you're pathetic.
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heheheh
Phoenix Club
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Posted - 2010.10.16 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jones Bones
If your shield cane can't break an armor cane in 2 minutes......you're pathetic.
You cant really make such a generalization, one pilot and ship is not the same as the next, i know for a fact you would not break mine, does this make you pathetic ?
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Rasz Lin
Caldari
Racketeers
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Posted - 2010.10.16 15:40:00 -
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Originally by: heheheh
Originally by: Jones Bones
If your shield cane can't break an armor cane in 2 minutes......you're pathetic.
You cant really make such a generalization, one pilot and ship is not the same as the next
You are right, some are not PATHETIC like OP is
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EMO JAck
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Posted - 2010.10.16 16:27:00 -
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Bahhh its crap. Not to say I wouldent and havent done it, but self destruct is gay. Personaly I love my kill mails. Its a learning tool you see other fittings good and bad. You also get the validation of the kill. You can see who did more dps in a gank and you can lol at the faction gear they just lost. Personaly I think its crap.
If you really want the KM you could go to battle clinic and pull it from there.
Oh final thing to mention if a NPC get the final blow you can still pull and post the KM.
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Captain Blart
Hideous Mutant Freekz
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Posted - 2010.10.16 19:31:00 -
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whats so important about killmail ?
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Chingyz
Caldari
Reverse Psychology.
BAT PHONE
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Posted - 2010.10.16 21:06:00 -
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To me the killmail is a nice way to recollect on a fight you had. I often even look at my lossmails to remember how the fight went, what I did wrong and what I should do different. The same thing goes for a killmail, it's way for me to remember what I did right and wrong as well as what I should and shouldn't do next time.
As far as stats goes I really couldn't care less, but it's in some ways annoying that a selfdestruct in some ways can rob you of the memories of a good fight and yes my memory isn't what it used to be so it's nice to have somehting to remember it by.
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Octarius Eskravu
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Posted - 2010.10.16 22:34:00 -
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LOL...every single one that are against killmails in game...either is a carebear, that the only mails he gets are lossmails...or is a blob pilot, that just presses the button when is ordered to do so...otherwise, every solo pvper, or anyone that had the taste of a fight in a equal ship, and left with 5% structure, DOES want the killmail to see what he had in is ship that the other didnt that made the difference, or if they were equal fitted and it was just a matter of skills/experience. You can learn from them. period.
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Umega
Solis Mensa
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Posted - 2010.10.16 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Octarius Eskravu
LOL...every single one that are against killmails in game...either is a carebear, that the only mails he gets are lossmails...or is a blob pilot, that just presses the button when is ordered to do so...otherwise, every solo pvper, or anyone that had the taste of a fight in a equal ship, and left with 5% structure, DOES want the killmail to see what he had in is ship that the other didnt that made the difference, or if they were equal fitted and it was just a matter of skills/experience. You can learn from them. period.
Yes.. because EVE isn't a game where a significant portion of the populace have multiple characters to which they do different activities in. All assumptions should then be considered concrete fact on the person behind the character based solely on character used in forum.
You really can't learn what skills and experince a person has with a KM. Nor can you figure if they had been fleet'd up and recieving fleet bonues/ganglinks. Nor can you figure out if they were using drugs. You can find out the fit.. but there are also mods in the game that can be used to determine player fits.. even before a fight has begun, even hours/days/weeks/months in advance to find out what a person flies before the fight takes place, providing a signficant advantage over after the fact.
So whats the point of KM.. really? It's ok to admit its ego food. I understand that.
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Tom Peeping
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Posted - 2010.10.17 00:29:00 -
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AH HA HA HA.... HA HA HA.... HA HA HA HA.... HA HA HA HA
gasp
AH HA HA HA... HA HA HA HA... HA HA HA HA
cough.. gasp cough.
You're right... Kiting is a viable tactic. So is self destructing.
Nice whine thread you looser.
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Kingwood
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.10.17 01:52:00 -
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So you were not able to kill another Cane in your Cane within the time it took him to self-destruct? K.
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Mfume Apocal
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.10.17 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tom Peeping
You're right... Kiting is a viable tactic. So is self destructing.
Pretty much. If OP really wanted a KM that bad, he would have closed it up to beat the timer.
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Jenk Makkanahr
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Posted - 2010.10.17 02:44:00 -
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Remove "self destruction".
But thats what young scool girls don't want.
Get
over
it.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.10.17 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Roosterton
Better idea, remove all killmails.
This
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Khealen
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Posted - 2010.10.17 03:38:00 -
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Edited by: Khealen on 17/10/2010 03:39:35
As odd as this is going to sound, I support getting rid of the kill mail but keep the loss mail. Survival is good enough a victory for me, but if i lose its nice to play around with a configuration that whomped me and see what works.
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