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Hannibal Ord Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.18 20:32:00 - [91] Originally by: Sonreir We only care about where you were supposed to be. Exactly. On contract.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:06:00 - [92] I suppose the question that comes to my mind to ask Noir, is why bother with having 0.0 space to begin with? At a guess, I would say the answer provided would be 'Profit!', which apparently you did. Money comes and goes... but who would be open to sharing space with you in the future, an absentee landlord who's renters were unable defend your turf, who's leadership failed with inter-alliance communication, and managed to make a hash of things based upon rumor, speculation/conjecture, and 3rd hand information? Ofc... the answer would be that you never again intend to hold space. In depth analysis, smart thinking, and planning is what you've shown, my hat off to you gentlemen.
Alekseyev Karrde Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:15:00 - [93] Man I might ruin my mean internet tough image with this one but OK Sonreir, here is a near line by line response to your impassioned post which is about as fair and reasonable as I can make it. If thatÆs not good enough for you and the people who share your views, thereÆs nothing more I care to do. Originally by: Sonreir Wow, Alek... All in one post you manage to: a.) Completely ignore all the facts and history of the situation b.) Be a massive hypocrite c.) Refuse to accept responsibility for any of the actions you or your alliance has taken a) What? I just gave you a history. Sorry it didn't conform to the one your alliance leaders have been relaying to you but that shouldn't be a reason for hostility. If anything IÆd call my treatment of the situation pretty tame compared to the opinions of some. b) I am a hypocrite? Not quite sure how but boy this is really going to be fun when i point how you spout off allowing DK, a NIP member to be kicked in by PL, a sov invasion, because SODA felt there would be or intended there to be hostilities in the near future. See, wasnt that a good time? c) I 100% accept responsibility to my corp for not selling our Providence holdings the two times I had the opportunity to do so. Would have been very significant income by our standards, though we are very small. I made the decision to try to stick it out and give the coalition a chance back when it looked like that was possible and by the time I realized how things were going to goàwell I WOULD say I couldnÆt even give them away except that I did. XD Originally by: Sonreir I like doing the TL;DR version first Me too. Stop drinking the Kool Aid, Providence is no longer our problem, no amount of crying on the forums is going to make us feel bad or guilt us into helping you, KARRDE VICTOR, get over it. Originally by: Sonreir a.) D'K is in the trouble they're in because they ran their mouths off and intentionally drug the rest of Provi into a war where there was little chance of success. Now if PL had come in looking to take all of Provi, the situation would have played out differently. We all would have fought shoulder-to-shoulder and died together, but they weren't here to invade Providence. They were only here to give a misbehaving child a well-needed spanking. D'K provoked that one and expected the other alliances to pay the butcher's bill. No thank you. Except giving them a ôspankingö consisted of invading Providence. I donÆt remember anywhere in the NIP or any meeting where it was agreed that an invading enemy had to let everyone know before they got started that they were going to kick people out of every single system before the rest of us paid attention. Nowhere was it said that DK, or you guys for that matter, were fair game for getting evicted because they were talking ****. ---
Alekseyev Karrde Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:18:00 - [94] Originally by: Sonreir Unfortunately, one ass-whopping wasn't enough to get through to them that they need to tone it down and a decision was made to remove them from Providence. That decision was made not, as many would have you believe, for purposes of conquest, but because it was best for the long-term stability and security of the region. If someone is rocking the boat, you sit them back down (with force, if necessary). We can't be in a NIP with another alliance who insists on poking hornet's nests and then expects their friends to pick up the tab. Yeah howÆs that long term stability and security been working out since PL hit? Fact is boat rocking had been going on long before this (arguments over 2V, arguments over KBP, a dead titan..) and we got through it by talking with one another because AAA was looking over things and no one wanted to cross them. AAA leaves, and instead of sitting down and working out a way for us to stand together (and sticking to it!) the fact of the record is your alliance participated in firing the first shot of civil war, right or wrong. You could have roamed/camped the ** out of them to teach them a lesson, but you chose to take advantage of the situation, roll the dice on an out and out sov conflict, and there was no turning back. I think it was a mistake from a strategic perspective, maybe you guys will prove me wrong in the end, who knows. Originally by:** Sonreir Now as to the facts of your situation: Not even one week ago there was a Provi TS meeting where we were all present to discuss the situation. I'm pretty sure you were there (someone from NOIR was), although you arrived 30 minutes late. Yes we were there. And the one before that. And the ones before that which SODA wouldnÆt event attend. There was sometimes as many as 3 Provi planning meetings a week for a while so sorry if our rep was a bit late for one of them (really, thatÆs kinda petty). I was fully briefed and hopeful of some cavalry, because just maybe the northern faction was willing to put the sov war grind behind them and work things out. You can argue I had a false expectation, and perhaps that would be fair, but I was disappointed. Originally by: Sonreir And based upon your actions after that meeting you were probably AFK for most of it; smoking a joint. If you think back over your THC-clouded memories you may recall us bringing Derwent into the meeting to discuss The Kadeshi coming into Provi. We offered them ZQ2-CF constellation and told them if they continue going after your space then all of Provi would be there to fight them. But I'm sure that we got two dozen of all the alliance's leaders into the same TS channel just to convince you were WEREN'T plotting against you. That makes much more sense, right? I was aware of this and initially very hopeful. But as you are hopefully aware, Kadeshi declined the offer for the ZQ2 constellation and continued the fight. By that time NMG. was off contract and defending our space full force, killing 2 large towers, RFing two more, downed some SBU, and won literally every engagement (even the even numbered ones Mickey ;p ). Kadeshi brought in Bat Phone, then when that wasnÆt enough hired Mercenary Coalition. According to the meeting you laud, all of the ônew NIPö was supposed to rally behind us if Kadeshi declined and help us out esp during the US TZ which would be even more important with our German partner corp GIS leaving shortly to get back to their lowsec routes. No fleets came. ---
Alekseyev Karrde Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:21:00 - [95] In fact, SODACAISHO had set them blue, AGONY was sending roaming gangs to kill anybody, FIGL and Chaos wouldnÆt talk, IO/LEGIO were both burnt out from actually fighting, and BDEAL was inventing a new excuse every night as to why they would not come. Literally, a new one every day for like 3 days (We didnÆt know you were under attack, we cant get a fleet together tonight everyone is AFK, you should have set your timers to USTZ we can only help then, your FC who took command because none of the other people in fleet were willing and able to do it primaried one of our interceptors who was tackling friendlies while we were fighting CVA and IT in S9X, etc etc etc). By that point CVA showed up with more numbers than either NMG.+friends or THOR+friends and was killing everything. The final straw for me was when one of our stations came out at 01:00ish (9PM EST) because I set it to USTZ like BDEAL and others had wanted. Mails were sent out all over, timers in MOTD, everything. And when it came time to form the fleet, no one seemed to know anything about it and Kadeshi coalition stayed up late to put it in. Even if it was an honest mistake (WHICH IT MAY HAVE BEEN, after all i will never know for sure), i didnt have much confidence in future success. It was then I really started checking and discovered the standings. I felt like I had a choice of either CVA coming in and taking things or the NIP beating CVAÆs fleets while allowing Kadeshi to take our stations, inventing some reason of why they wouldnÆt help or why Noir. WouldnÆt get the help that they promised not a week earlier. You can always say ôwell, come on Alek that wouldnÆt have actually happenedö and again, maybe you are right. But I had to go with my gut and the facts as I saw them. Originally by: Sonreir b.) So now you call us back-stabbers for failing to honor the NIP. I admit, there is room to discuss the way things were handled with D'K and I'm sure there could have been improvement on both sides of the fence. But in your mind two wrongs make a right? You really think calling us out for not sticking to the letter of the NIP and then flipping your space to CVA makes you the good guys? It makes you vindictive and childish. I never intended to make things right. It was about me not seeing a way for things to be right again. This wasnÆt about revenge for DK either. They were friends and it does have some poetic justice to it but neither of those factors affected my decision. This isnÆt about scoring points for Noir. either. I donÆt care who thinks weÆre heroes or villains, elite or worthless, the best merc corp or insignificant. What I do care care about is our integrity, our self respect, the satisfaction of our customers, yes I care about the stats, and other measures of performance, and I care about fun. Getting double talked and sold out took care of the first two, ongoing instability in Provi would mean more time away from contracts, the stats were awesome cant complain about that (you go guys!), and dealing with the increasingly petty politics and sov timers simply wasnÆt fun. As I hope I have illustrated, I didnÆt give this order in a hissy fit or because I was somehow emotional over the actions taken by the other Providence residents. I was running out of desirable options, so I went with a very clever, interesting, and cruel option that wasnÆt any worse for us than the status quo. Honestly: childish no, vindictive yes. ---
Alekseyev Karrde Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:24:00 - [96] Originally by: Sonreir Multiple opportunities have existed to salvage this situation and you've repeatedly ignored them. And the icing on the cake? You guys didn't help D'K against PL, either. No opportunities for resolution were open to me at any time since Kadeshi began invading. If anything, Kadeshi could have ôsalvagedö the situation for Provi as a whole by taking either the ZQ offer or my personal offer to their exec to live in our constellations as a PVP force (since while we did beat them each time, donÆt anyone think they arnt good fighters because I think they are. Plus I know Tobias and Buddhist of Bat Phone from way back). At no point were we approached with a reasonable way forward or way out. I donÆt know where you got the didnÆt help DK line from. If you look at kb links from the first save-KBP-op, NMG. forces almost outnumbered DK. And we kept up helping them each time we could, even helping in Catch against PL. I and the other FCs fought HARD to get the fleets to swap their target painters and points for the dampeners which we tested in small numbers during that first KBP op (again, check killboards) with some success. In the meantime, Sodalitas and Daisho pilots were doing bomb runs on DK so even if you did have your facts remotely right, I donÆt see how youÆd have a leg to stand on (remember above about the hypocrisy stuff?) Originally by: Sonreir c.) And now you attempt to lay all this trouble at other people's doorsteps. The fact of the matter is that real leaders take responsibility for the situations in which they find themselves. You can't join into a NIP and then not uphold your side of the bargain. You guys rarely participated in any of the Provi-wide meetings, and rarely joined up in any fleets against CVA or other intruders. Heh well actually, in FACT: Noir. and Ushra Khan/DK were the only alliances in Provi which actually participated in the campaign against CVA in the first place. When it came time for AAAÆs ambitious region-wide sov attack our constellation had the most kills per day (Dotlan) and our alliance did the most damage of any of the new residents. We participated against Paxton when they attacked Chaos Theory (hell, I was arguing against even trying to include them in the NIP in the first place) and again fought CVA + company when sov transfer problems gave them a foothold in southern Providence. The only serious attack which we were unable to partake in repelling was HYDRA and that was because by the time our remaining 2 weeks of contract work was done all the fighting was over already. We had reps in just about every meeting (maybe weÆve missed one or two, I donÆt know there were a lot) and you wouldnÆt believe the hours and hours I put into shuttle diplomacy and free consulting to various alliance heads even if I felt like i should have been counting them and could name the number. Originally by: Sonreir Absentee landlords would be the polite way of saying you were never here and never active in the region. Everyone knew our merc lifestyle and what to expect. Our own renters are posting above in support of us. Why do they have less of a problem with our activity level in Providence than people on the other side of the region? Originally by: Sonreir So now after our pilots have fought and died to help hold your space while you messed about in Jita you have the nerve to come in here and tell us you've been mistreated? In fairness, no Sodalitas XX pilots were harmed in the making of this film ;p Guess what, the people who DID die for us (Imperial Order, DK/UshraKhan, LEGIO, Polaris) are also the people you donÆt like and who your alliance leaders have ridiculed and marginalized at every opportunity I was privy to. And they are some of our biggest supporters, and I theirs, because we DID work together and earn each others respect Originally by: Sonreir Good riddance. Yes. PS: bored without client :( ---
Pistrik Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:25:00 - [97] I now declare this thread over. Cookies and punch will be served in the lobby.
Sonreir Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:32:00 - [98] Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde a) What? I just gave you a history. Sorry it didn't conform to the one your alliance leaders have been relaying to you but that shouldn't be a reason for hostility. If anything IÆd call my treatment of the situation pretty tame compared to the opinions of some. And this pretty much sums up NOIR's understanding of what's actually going on. I am one of the alliance leaders and as such have had a full access to the events as they've unfolded. I may not be overly vocal about it much of the time, but I can assure you that your actions are/were based on paranoia and not on any real truth. Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde b) I am a hypocrite? Not quite sure how but boy this is really going to be fun when i point how you spout off allowing DK, a NIP member to be kicked in by PL, a sov invasion, because SODA felt there would be or intended there to be hostilities in the near future. See, wasnt that a good time? Did you guys help D'K defend their space? No? Out on contract again, I suppose... Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde c) I 100% accept responsibility to my corp for not selling our Providence holdings the two times I had the opportunity to do so. Would have been very significant income by our standards, though we are very small. I made the decision to try to stick it out and give the coalition a chance back when it looked like that was possible and by the time I realized how things were going to goàwell I WOULD say I couldnÆt even give them away except that I did. XD Not selling your friends down the river two of of three times you've had a chance is quite commendable. Keep it up. Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde Except giving them a ôspankingö consisted of invading Providence. I donÆt remember anywhere in the NIP or any meeting where it was agreed that an invading enemy had to let everyone know before they got started that they were going to kick people out of every single system before the rest of us paid attention. Nowhere was it said that DK, or you guys for that matter, were fair game for getting evicted because they were talking ****. It's common sense. The spirit of the NIP is to promote a relative peace in the area so that we can all have some fun pew-pewing each other. If an entity, either internal or external, is a threat to that relative peace then that entity needs to be dealt with. I'm not one to subscribe to the rights of the individual being placed over the rights of the group and that's exactly the agenda D'K was pushing. They made decisions without consulting the rest of the Providence leadership and those decisions are what landed PL on their doorstep and also resulted in a significant portion of the Providence residents unwilling to dig them out of their own hole.
Sonreir Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.18 21:58:00 - [99] Edited by: Sonreir on 18/10/2010 22:02:04 I do apologize if we were unable to get forces to you in time. Chalk it up to poor communication or poor timing, but I can assure you it was not malice. From our point of view we already working on removing the last of the D'K forces from the pocket and yet another opportunistic attack from CVA. A third attack, coming from Kadeshi, was starting to spread us thin and so our response times were not as good as they could have been. It's funny though... We were all geared up to start fighting on three fronts and then you guys go and turn your space over to CVA. So now instead of helping you guys fight off Kadeshi we're now helping Kadeshi fight off CVA. Self-fulfilling prophecy... Anyway... sorry for the tone of my earlier posts. I can see by the thought and effort put into yours that you are probably a reasonable person (most of the time, at least). I can understand that you were doing what you thought was best at the time, I'm just sorry that more communication didn't take place. As it turns out, there is (and never was) any conspiracy against you. I guess for all the *****ing and moaning this actually works out quite well though. Kadeshi are stronger allies then you guys were and we can set MC back to blue now that they're not on contract against a Provi alliance. You guys get to go back to doing what you do best and you made a fist full of cash in the processes. Seems like a win-win situation and here we all are complaining like tea partier at a gay pride rally. See you guys in space, Sonny
Galthirion Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.10.18 23:50:00 - [100] Originally by: Sonreir Wow, Alek... All in one post you manage to: a.) Completely ignore all the facts and history of the situation b.) Be a massive hypocrite c.) Refuse to accept responsibility for any of the actions you or your alliance has taken I like doing the TL;DR version first, so now let me expand... a.) D'K is in the trouble they're in because they ran their mouths off and intentionally drug the rest of Provi into a war where there was little chance of success. Now if PL had come in looking to take all of Provi, the situation would have played out differently. We all would have fought shoulder-to-shoulder and died together, but they weren't here to invade Providence. They were only here to give a misbehaving child a well-needed spanking. D'K provoked that one and expected the other alliances to pay the butcher's bill. No thank you. Unfortunately, one ass-whopping wasn't enough to get through to them that they need to tone it down and a decision was made to remove them from Providence. That decision was made not, as many would have you believe, for purposes of conquest, but because it was best for the long-term stability and security of the region. If someone is rocking the boat, you sit them back down (with force, if necessary). We can't be in a NIP with another alliance who insists on poking hornet's nests and then expects their friends to pick up the tab. Now as to the facts of your situation: Not even one week ago there was a Provi TS meeting where we were all present to discuss the situation. I'm pretty sure you were there (someone from NOIR was), although you arrived 30 minutes late. And based upon your actions after that meeting you were probably AFK for most of it; smoking a joint. If you think back over your THC-clouded memories you may recall us bringing Derwent into the meeting to discuss The Kadeshi coming into Provi. We offered them ZQ2-CF constellation and told them if they continue going after your space then all of Provi would be there to fight them. But I'm sure that we got two dozen of all the alliance's leaders into the same TS channel just to convince you were WEREN'T plotting against you. That makes much more sense, right? b.) So now you call us back-stabbers for failing to honor the NIP. I admit, there is room to discuss the way things were handled with D'K and I'm sure there could have been improvement on both sides of the fence. But in your mind two wrongs make a right? You really think calling us out for not sticking to the letter of the NIP and then flipping your space to CVA makes you the good guys? It makes you vindictive and childish. Multiple opportunities have existed to salvage this situation and you've repeatedly ignored them. And the icing on the cake? You guys didn't help D'K against PL, either. c.) And now you attempt to lay all this trouble at other people's doorsteps. The fact of the matter is that real leaders take responsibility for the situations in which they find themselves. You can't join into a NIP and then not uphold your side of the bargain. You guys rarely participated in any of the Provi-wide meetings, and rarely joined up in any fleets against CVA or other intruders. Absentee landlords would be the polite way of saying you were never here and never active in the region. So now after our pilots have fought and died to help hold your space while you messed about in Jita you have the nerve to come in here and tell us you've been mistreated? Good riddance. I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure... Origin.

Sonreir Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.19 00:00:00 - [101] Originally by: Galthirion I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure... And I love everyone here on CAOD. You guys are the best. :D
Linoth Caldari Southern Cross Incorporated Flying Dangerous	Posted - 2010.10.19 00:21:00 - [102] As an alliance exec from Provi I was just curious... does all this emo text mean that we will be getting PVP served to us at home this weekend or will we need to roam...? Or then again maybe this is just a wall of emotard dribble and has no relevance.... Life is like a micro brewery
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.19 00:54:00 - [103] Originally by: Linoth As an alliance exec from Provi I was just curious... does all this emo text mean that we will be getting PVP served to us at home this weekend or will we need to roam...? Or then again maybe this is just a wall of emotard dribble and has no relevance.... Ah come on man, this has been one of the few COAD posts worth reading in the last couple of months.
Derwent Caldari Free Lapland The Kadeshi	Posted - 2010.10.19 01:16:00 - [104] All i can gather from this is a bunch of TL;DR posting and jabbering back and forth. What leaves me clueless tho is these fights ur talking about. We barly saw any of u out there nore did we have any fights other than u shooting things that didnt shoot back during our TZ gap and maybe taking potshots on a few scrubs. The poses that was shot was one newly anchored and not stronted propertly :embarassed: and the second one was a pos w/o a forcefield that was redeployed after stealing it from ur "pets/renters" in LSS. Also, BAT PHONE was with us from day one its not that we called them in cus we cant handle the all mighty NMG. I cant speak on behalf of MC, but i can for Kadeshi and we havent hired them with the phat moon mining wallet money we have. It was simply one friend helping out another.
Kimsemus Amarr Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.19 01:23:00 - [105] Edited by: Kimsemus on 19/10/2010 01:24:57 Alek, If you spent as much time in provi shooting as you did making long winded and inaccurate forum posts, you'd be the number 1 PVPer in the region.
Pistrik Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.19 01:36:00 - [106] Edited by: Pistrik on 19/10/2010 01:43:57 ITT: Provi drama, best drama.
Alekseyev Karrde Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.19 02:02:00 - [107] Originally by: Derwent All i can gather from this is a bunch of TL;DR posting and jabbering back and forth. What leaves me clueless tho is these fights ur talking about. We barly saw any of u out there nore did we have any fights other than u shooting things that didnt shoot back during our TZ gap and maybe taking potshots on a few scrubs. The poses that was shot was one newly anchored and not stronted propertly :embarassed: and the second one was a pos w/o a forcefield that was redeployed after stealing it from ur "pets/renters" in LSS. Also, BAT PHONE was with us from day one its not that we called them in cus we cant handle the all mighty NMG. I cant speak on behalf of MC, but i can for Kadeshi and we havent hired them with the phat moon mining wallet money we have. It was simply one friend helping out another. These kills right here Apologies if Bat Phone was with you from the start. ---
Metal Michelle Minmatar Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.10.19 03:06:00 - [108] Edited by: Metal Michelle on 19/10/2010 03:13:21 Originally by: Kimsemus Edited by: Kimsemus on 19/10/2010 01:24:57 Alek, If you spent as much time in provi shooting as you did making long winded and inaccurate forum posts, you'd be the number 1 PVPer in the region. As far as the #1 PvPer in Providence award goes - I'm assuming you mean the brass-plated statue of Mel Gibson driving a Yugo - well, it's an honor just to be nominated. Edit: The only decent 1v1 and 2v2 fights I've ever had in Provi were versus CVA. For me, that was all I was looking for.
Galthirion Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.10.19 04:15:00 - [109] Originally by: Sonreir Originally by: Galthirion I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure... And I love everyone here on CAOD. You guys are the best. :D You mad? Origin.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.19 04:39:00 - [110] Originally by: Galthirion Originally by: Sonreir Originally by: Galthirion I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure... And I love everyone here on CAOD. You guys are the best. :D You mad? Just checking, but are you qualified to use that cliche?

Galthirion Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.10.19 07:03:00 - [111] Originally by: Avernus Originally by: Galthirion Originally by: Sonreir Originally by: Galthirion I love when people cry and try to make just of there actions...you will lose your space little 0.0 monkey all in due time im sure... And I love everyone here on CAOD. You guys are the best. :D You mad? Just checking, but are you qualified to use that cliche? just checking but shouldn't you be packing up your ships and gear? Origin.
Psilocin Amarr GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2010.10.19 10:19:00 - [112] Every time I see the word NIP I think of boobies. Mmmmmm.......boobies
Sonreir Gallente Band of Builders Inc. Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.19 15:46:00 - [113] Edited by: Sonreir on 19/10/2010 15:47:58 Originally by: Galthirion You mad? Nah, but I am going to have to stop reading this thread or I'm gonna get fired for laughing too loud and disturbing my co-workers. The fact that some guy from a 100-man empire alliance can come on CAOD and predict the downfall of our 900-man 0.0 alliance because we're winning the war is epic on so many levels.
Manfred Sideous Amarr H A V O C Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2010.10.19 16:25:00 - [114] Wow this is a terrible thread. Provi 2.0 was a fun expirement for me. It has been a fun ride watching things play out. Creating a little garden community and giving them all little patches to grow and then backing away and watching how things all play out. Pretty neat stuff.
Faekurias Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.10.19 16:42:00 - [115] This thread is the best thread TBH Also: Galt's posting is speshul <3
Sick Boy Minmatar Unknown-Entity	Posted - 2010.10.19 17:02:00 - [116] When alek said "his internet tough guy image" it required another post from me. This guy has to be the most long winded, delusional leader in eve with the least amount of firepower to bring to the table. But he is good at one thing, tricking renters from empire to pay him for space, when he can't come close to defending them from any corp over 30 members large. Unfortunately his band of 5 merry pvpers with stealth bombers probably are good friends and we will have to listen to noir posts for a long time to come as they strive someday to be relevant. To even come close to comparing noir to an MC or PL is completely ridiculous. they average 5 man bomber gangs, are you kidding me???
Kimsemus Amarr Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.10.19 17:06:00 - [117] Originally by: Metal Michelle Edited by: Metal Michelle on 19/10/2010 03:13:21 Originally by: Kimsemus Edited by: Kimsemus on 19/10/2010 01:24:57 Alek, If you spent as much time in provi shooting as you did making long winded and inaccurate forum posts, you'd be the number 1 PVPer in the region. As far as the #1 PvPer in Providence award goes - I'm assuming you mean the brass-plated statue of Mel Gibson driving a Yugo - well, it's an honor just to be nominated. Edit: The only decent 1v1 and 2v2 fights I've ever had in Provi were versus CVA. For me, that was all I was looking for. That's a bummer, i enjoy the occasional 1v1, before you leave Provi, swing by and we can have a duel. ^o^
DeadDuck Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2010.10.19 17:10:00 - [118] Originally by: Manfred Sideous Wow this is a terrible thread. Provi 2.0 was a fun expirement for me. It has been a fun ride watching things play out. Creating a little garden community and giving them all little patches to grow and then backing away and watching how things all play out. Pretty neat stuff. Well I can believe you acted with the highest of intentions: to create a new thing that would be better then the old one. Hell is full of good intentions. Where there was order there is chaos. Were there were people there is a desert. Yep you created an abomination. You may as well be known as Dr. Provenstein. God is my Wingman
Galthirion Caldari Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2010.10.19 18:02:00 - [119] Originally by: Sonreir Edited by: Sonreir on 19/10/2010 15:47:58 Originally by: Galthirion You mad? Nah, but I am going to have to stop reading this thread or I'm gonna get fired for laughing too loud and disturbing my co-workers. The fact that some guy from a 100-man empire alliance can come on CAOD and predict the downfall of our 900-man 0.0 alliance because we're winning the war is epic on so many levels. 1 I have probably been playing this game longer then 75% of your alliance. 2 check our KB were far from an empire alliance. 3 dont lie about you working, you more then likely live in your moms basement. and eat cheetos and and twinkies all day long. 4 you still mad bro? Origin.
RedSplat Caldari 54th Massachusetts Volunteer Infantry	Posted - 2010.10.19 18:25:00 - [120] Edited by: RedSplat on 19/10/2010 18:29:30 Whats ridiculous is that you can say Quote: This guy has to be the most long winded, delusional leader in eve with the least amount of firepower to bring to the table. and mean it. Under your stewardship your alliance was so dysfunctional, ineffectual and lacking direction you had to hire mercs to get the job done. Any competent alliance and indeed its presumably competent leadership, that was of Maru Kage's size at that time, would not have had to do this. The cherry on the top was you as a leader had so chronically mismanaged your alliance that you could not afford to pay the mercs you hired. The only thing you seemed to excel at in your time as part of Maru Kage was running your mouth without regard for consequence or whether what you say has any grounds in reality. Anyway, take care and enjoy Unkown-Entity. and your home after that, the one after that, then the next...I'm sure you will figure it out before the rest of your corp does someday. Hugs and kisses from the 54th http://www.heropilotsofthe54th.com/ Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.



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